@RossCaleb sorry someone flagged you as spam - it wasn't me. Try my new video's. I was cramming too much into one space - first attempts. DATA is the records of the relationship between the Level Above HUman (kingdom of God) and humans most of which is in the bible but includes records not permitted by council of niche through the catholics.
I agree there are many illusions in ALL the religoins and all thespirituality and all the science and all humaness BUT that doesn't mean this planet was not designed/developed by intelligent beings who are evolutionarily above human in the same way humans are above animals and animals above plants.The evidence is all around us. Nothing comes from nothing, even stephen hawkins and einstein agreed that the more they look at all there is, the more we see and prove ourselves lacking.
there tens of thousands of variables why this planet was made. Intelligent beings is probably one of the most unlikley- collisions of rocks and the billiions of years (probability comes into play here) is the most likely the reason.
10,000 variables to WHY, then name 1. Intelligent beings is "what" made the planets. I think having hundreds and thousands of eye witnesses to many many events that make our current scientific acheivments look puny, given human acheivements did require "intelligence", did it not, IS huge "proof" that it equally took amazing intelligence to accomplish elemental compositions that grow to have a choice in what they think they are. That's amazing proof. There is so much proof it's unbearable.
It's of no concern to me who is willing to look at the entire picture. It's easy to shoot things down we are afraid to consider as we dont' want to be labeled cooky. That goes for science of mind and body and environment. I could write and give literally thousands of pieces of certain evidences to you and unless you want to press past ALL old notions,you will never count them even possible let alone "believe" what they may in fact point to. Adaptation exists to. It ALL holds reality/truthes.
humans as a race use christianity as the follow in groups- like the snowball theory. Also, just because science has not yet fully explianed why everything started it does not mean we must put something like god in its place. We must strive to discover rather than place something that has very little proof.
christianity isn't from the Gods and what you are calling a snowball theory is the same path ALL humans take - follow the leader. The ONLY exceptions are those ALL generally hate, because only those given God seed can SEE their parents. The rest simply debate it or create clubs to act like they know something they don't.
Planet Earth is being recycled and there is only one way out. Drink poisoned Kool Aid...this magic Kool Aid will beam you up in to a great space coaster and you can fly around with Jesus and all of the other good aliens.
For the record they didn't use kool aid and nobody was beamed anywhere. They went into the spirit world. They came to me many times in my dream time, not all of them and Do maybe four times until the last time when jwnody came to me and told me that they were leaving. That was October 2006 and I haven't heard from them since, though I suspect a few stayed back to help with the follow up. These are not aliens. Aliens are human equivilents. These are ABOVE HUMAN like human is above animal.
you just go on and on and on with lies and shit and its all your smug little ego ... Theres what you imagine to be US . we ,us and anyone who isnt LIKE YOU you pathetic blithering fool is THEM. There is no US behind your words.Just a pile of shit
once your dead your dead you rot and become recycled within the earth. You cannot become a spirit and still be able to fuction. You require a chemical make up for anything to function...
I know that you can't know that. I can pick up a cell phone and dial you and talk without any wires, just device to device. How great is the human device? Where do "thoughts" come from? What creates that "sound" in our heads? Sorry, but I've seen many things with my eyes that one is not supposed to see, that is not supposed to exist except in sci-fi movies. The facts are you, nor I know what we don't know but if we are honest with ourselves we will admit that there is a great deal we don't know.
Also there is no magic potion or magic method to entering their kingdom. No one does anything for you, except to show you how, which does take a mighty effort and we could not do it without their physical hands on help. The reason I didn't go with them was because they knew I was not ready though I thought I was. There are some space aliens who the Next Level may employ to help with certain tasks of watchers or messengers. These will not show themselves to humans. There are signs happening now.
using the theory with intelligent life there are around 24 intelligent species within our galaxy- each one seperated by millions of light years. You cannot in any ways break the speed of lights. Wormoles? These too are seperated ironically by millions of light years. Furthermore, were is your evidence for all these (in my opinion) completley false claims
who do you trust with "24 intelligent species" to say it as fact and how do you know there aren't ways to travel that are not related to the speed of light. What if a worm hole is a super highway - a vacuum suspended within two huge sections of dark energy, thus a doorway. Look into bob lazar's story on this if you like.
what can not be a "fact"? Is dark energy a "fact"? Is bob lazar's scientific descriptoin of how it's possible to "bend time and space" as it's a fabric, a fact or fiction? Is it possible a worm hole is a superhighway?
How important is it to you to either disprove things I say or to be certain about things you say?
Of course we all at best are floundering around in descripbing all this. How much hard "fact" is there for the tiny fish in the huge fishbowl?
a tiny fish to a huge fish bowl? 3% of space is matter- stars galexies planets asteriods not alien higways or spaceships. just face it most likely in the universe we are all ALONE
what's not matter or matter enabled? Are not particles matter? Are frequencies absent of matter? When one makes a sound they are vibrating matter with the force from their vocalchords.That works that way because each particle is embedded and enabled by frequency - electro magnetic radition, a mini univerise with. The less the frequency the more dense the matter and the less animated it can be and the less animated the more limitations.
@3spm A wormhole is a bit more complicated than that, but it is also just a mathematical concept. If wormholes did exist in nature we couldn't take advantage of them because they only stay open for an instant.
Basically I think you're trying to leap before you can walk. Science will advance, but cherry-picking unrelated ideas, putting them together, misinterpreting what they mean, and then adding a layer of mysticism is not going to help. In fact it has always hindered things.
@icemachine79 Fine - they are more complicated...so is everything really as we see by each and every scientific advance that often speaks little to the steps that need to be taken backward in the overall process of progression. Everything can be boiled down to "just a mathematical concept" if someone tries to so that's a no brainer as well. Two obvious problems with your stated assumption on wormhold existence and their duration.
@icemachine79 First off I know that you don't know how long they could exist and by whose time frame to you issue the measure of an "instant". Is an instant on mars the same as an instant on the sun or earth? It's stupid talk isn't it and your trying to impress me by stating that you think I am leaping before I can walk. I never claimed to leap at all. What unrelated ideas did I purport? What did I misinterpret and whose data was it?
@3spm An instant as in a Plank epoch - the smallest subdivision of time that is possible. No information - including matter - could be sent through them. The only way to stabilize such a structure would be with material that would violate several basic laws of physics. Its basically the same thing that prevents us from traveling faster than light in normal space. I'm not saying that other methods couldn't be found, but wormholes are a dead end (no pun intended).
@icemachine79 several weeks ago scientists gathered in DC to conference about their seeing through the hubble two objects in space in orbit around one, while the two objects were hotter than the one they orbitted. Explain that! Now I know someone will BUT so could a 10 yr old come up with something.
@icemachine79 Since you state that wormholes are dead, explain why or show me the research and I'll show you someone who is stating a theory. Do you think it's possible that someone not educated in the sciences per say can know things a scientiist doesn't yet know? Even if you are right, I'm talking about freeways in space.
@icemachine79 What is mysticism but what we lack plausible explaination of OR a misinformation campaign to shroud aspects of reality we have yet to nail down to postulates and theorms and hypthosis and how does this mysticism as you see it hinder anything that is not already being hindered? Is it possible it also potentially advances our perception of reality and it's science?
@3spm Mysticism is trying to fill in the blanks before you have all the information. That's why I made the "leaping before you walk" comment. Quantum physics has opened up a whole new world of understanding, but it doesn't alter reality. We just have a deeper understanding of why things work the way they do, and perhaps it will allow us to do some things we think are impossible now, but it will be well into the future before that happens.
@icemachine79 We NEVER have ALL the information. Mysticism is to date a catch all tag that gives some licence to dramatize and elevate themselves, though at it's roots was simply attempts to explain what we otherwise don't have a normal material comprehension of. Just because you don't want to consider that what I am sharing could have some basis in fact, doesn't mean it's mysticism, except to you. Quantum physics is also very simple when you scrape away all the cult terminology.
@3spm cont. In the meantime we need patience, and we also need to not jump to conclusions based on spotty evidence. Misunderstanding of things like the observer effect have caused people to think they can alter reality with their minds, which is ridiculous. Focusing on things that merely have anecdotal evidence or no evidence at all is a waste of time and resources. I'm just tired of science being misunderstood as a concept; I didn't mean it to come out as a personal attack and I'm sorry.
@icemachine79 Humans can only alter reality in their own and other's heads, though they can muck up environments and lives galore in the process. Reading & taking courses on physics doesn't enable someone to have any common sense about our reality. Anyone who says something can't happen or determines when it might exists in an illusion about themselves and who they listen to.
@icemachine79 Who is leaping here before they even know that they are at best crawling. At least I know I'm crawling though it may be like speeding to other crawlers.
For instance I suspect the signs from the Next Level appear natural. You won't see a spacecraft or little greys or hear voices or be spoken to through channels or psychics or the religious or spiritual. These mentioned can do tricks often using the spirit world or alien spacecrafts to try to fool you. When the Next Level finally comes again I suspect our electrical devices will cease to work so there will be no more debate any longer. A few souls will be taken at that time.
Anyone who has heard this information is being forced to be who they are. All will get exactly what they desire most. For many it will be nothingness as they expect. For others it will be a future opportunity to live, even after they physially die. Some may remain in spirit form for a while, but once in spirit no one can change what they have become. But until then, however long it is, the chance remains to change and that could include asking in your silence for connection to Ti and Do. Choose!
once again, who determines what is and isn't an "informal and formal logical fallacy"? you? Euclid?
But the real question is: why are you spending energy telling us that Ti, Do and the Class (HG) are so "illogical"? If Ti, Do and the Class are so illogical to you then why would you even bother telling SWY and I that? After all, we're not rational and "illogical" so your self-professed logical thoughts are going to fall on our fallacious ears. Simply put: HOW DOES THIS AFFECT YOU?
Granted everyone, you all have been baraged with claims, lies, deceit, supposition, distortions, misrepresentations, calculated mis/dis information, even blatent manipulations by those in Religions, Politics and Business so why wouldn't someone want proof that there may in fact have been a few exceptions on this planet. No one should accept anything blindly BUT if that means that we decide to BE blind, then we will see to it. I need to do a better job with this video as I have lots more "proof".
what exactly am I being hypocritical about? What lies am I telling. Your responses are unsubstantiated by the anything concrete, usually the sign of someone who just doesn't know but wishes to try to save face thus throughs out generalities. This isn't a contest to me to see who can outdo the other. So fine, I can admit being hypocritical in a sense but yet I dont' know if you know me well enough to suggest in ways that may be. If you have something concrete to address please do, otherwise rest.
Some people hate whatever it is that doesn't make them look good or great. That's the real crying shame - how primitive beings that are little more than animals that even many animals seem more civilized than, can think so much of themselves that they think they are alone in the universe or on the top of any heap on a planet they had nothign at all to do with the creation of and that everything they touch turns to destruction and then think they are superior because of. Wow, that's a twist!
It's a crying shame Heaven's Gate didn't die. I guess some things must be killed more than once to make sure. Round 2 will have the media spotlight for a bit, then all will be forgotten, as people of reason and rational thought will press on. I'm actually not sure which is sicker, Christianity itself, or Heaven's Gate's derivation of it.
Why is this such a concern to you? Do you think it's "dangerous" as I've heard say, for people to believe that there is more to life than meets the eye, your eye, my eye, ALL of OUR EYEs and in fact many, many times more. Sure Christianity is sick as you say as are all the religions of which atheism is yet another. ALL of them are human and all thrive on other's sufferring. Of course not all people - just those in bed with the leaderships. Do you see "reason" in the world. Yes reason for greed.
Atheism isn't a religion, it's a belief system in which evidence is required for belief to occur. We have no problem believing things, but we want to believe in as many truths and as few falsehoods as possible, and suffice it to say, the claims made here are about as verifiable as the claims made by Scientology/Peoples Temple/Christianity/Islam/Judaism/etc. Bring some evidence to the table & discard logical fallacies, and people will have no problem believing claims made in these videos.
A religion is "an organized system of beliefs". I know atheists that believe in nothing they can't touch or doesn't come through academic channels. What would constitute evidence to you. I somehow "believed" in spirits when I was young, perhaps because of experiences others may not have BUT then on two distinct occasions I saw beings in a near or partly invisible context while awake, but I 99% guarantee you won't count my experience as proof, nor should you, but being open to it is a first step.
Jesus was asked for proof and he said none would be given except the sign of jonah, having to do with the resurrection from death to life that he demonstrated on the physical level but is also related to the spirit birth once a student has sufficiently ovecome their desire to be human. So jesus did not count so called "miricles" - healing's, etc as proof and if you were wowed into belief you'd be no better than a pawn which the next level don't want so they require you to thirst for your proof.
I'm still pondering your expression here as I don't deny your questions and the sense that you are a discerning seeker in these days of easy entrenchment in illusions, but you will not find proof until you have allowed yourself to let go of some of your barriers, not to trust me or any person, but whatever you want to conceive brought this all to be as for sure it wasn't human or space alien generated, except in how they manipulate it. Don't you think it takes intelligence to create intelligence
Don't you think that we have many examples of how it takes intelligence to create intelligence like computers, automobiles & even though we don't actually create children (we facilitate the existing genetic systems) we raise them to often be closer to angels or demons in their behavior (how they treat others). That all takes lots of work, so how could it not be possible for at least that much work required to set up these systems we all take moreorless for granted? And function is a key word.
Isn't it interesting that all things natural demonstrate function in relationship to the support of the whole, even to the recycling of one form of matter to another. This is also evidence of what it took to bring this about - lots and lots of trial and a type of error, in that all things can always be improved upon in one way or another mentally(behaviorally) and physically. All things on Earth can be servicable to humans & moreorless against their will give their life so we can live as we want
Animals serve the life of humans as do plants and minerals in their degree of life and in their death, yet it's not exactly voluntary, though once an animal is domesticated and even trained they will do what is otherwise very fearful to their survival instincts in service to that human trainer whom they developed belief/trust, even seemingly blind faith towards. But is it blind faith or faith from experience & the mutual love/attention/giving of one to another. And humans do this for others too.
But would any animal do for another lifeform something that wouldn't instinctually benefit themselves in some way? One example is parents for their young, but only extends til their offspring is a viable adult. Humans however because of their reasoning ability can choose to give even their life for the well being of other life forms that they are even superior to because it's their choice to do so, not an obvious survivalism. This is evidence of evolving mind/behavior because how it can serve.
However, could a seeing eye dog train itself to provide that function to a human or a sheep dog or a circus animal or to do a domestic chore, etc without a being it sees as superior to show it, teach/train it? Logic Does provide evidence, though we can't pin point what, except when we see examples of how we humans have also become trained, reluctantly at first but by repetition & great teachers willing to sacrifice for us to where it's common sense that we can all work together while others hate
because not all are touched in the same way or time & chose to open up to that which show the most evidence of being our ultimate teachers, that by seeking to grow from gain experience that in turn builds trust/faith/belief in and genuine desire and sense of honor to serve. But how do we tell who these teachers are as so many use all these lofty words but then we learn were disingenuine or fradulent or just want our money & support of themselves? Well actually when we really want to see we will.
But the historic clues are well in place in my opinion. Surely beings that could orchestrate our reality don't NEED us for anything so They will not make it easy to see them and they won't seem to have any human (animal self centered) motivation for us to believe in what they say and what they say will appeal to a certain type of common sense, practicality & not contain airs or pretences of self importance. But most of all they will bring us challenging ideas to our accumulated status quo.
This will cause most everybody to hate them because as they gain a few followers those entrenched will feel threatened and/or that their loved ones are being threatened so will mount a campaign against their continuence to the point that they will be killed, yet for no apparant logical societal reason except fear of how others may be brainwashed, which is in itself a brainwashed perspective that discounts further functional evolution of any kind, which they never understand so make theorectical.
Who determines what "must be killed more than once to make sure"? Only those that you deem to be using "reason and rational thought". Are you really so blinded by your hubris that you think that you have the right to decide what individuals can and cannot discuss and put their energy into? Why do you even care that this video is on here? People who thought they were using reason and rational developed the atomic bomb. Don't judge things you have chosen to not understand.
I don't have the right to decide what can be discussed, but I do have the right to criticize and evaluate the claims made within any discussion. This stuff is full of formal & informal logical fallacies. I can only hope that the rest of you won't commit suicide and share the fate of those followers before you. Money, nuclear technology, power, are all amoral. Responsibility & accountability rests with those individuals who happen upon them.
Agreed though we can be aware of signs as the weather but we don't know how many signs there have been or will occur and what will be their scope, application and duration as each will see what they are programmed or seek to see. This is where I agree that Questions are great because they are "seeking" to know more but become a trap if we also don't watch, observe and listen which means taking it all in as much as possible while reserving opinion, that is until it generates into some "knowing".
I agree when that occurs, which I believe is well underway, called a time of increased "trouble" as we can't deny is escalating all around us but to a peak, all peoples will have sowed their seeds, thus decided or remained undecided as to what they believe in so that whatever the final event seen as a calamity to some and to others a reward, I believe then will begin the spoken of 1000 yrs of peace - the meek shall inherit the Earth - the lowerforce spirts and aliens will be shut up or absent.
Of course it is beyond us but that's the point to those working the development project to periodically inject into our environment more info about the overall reality. Without their instigation we would know next to nothing and I actually believe we would never know much more. But to assume we can never "begin" to comprehend it is to deny a grand plan with higher beings doing the creating who at any moment CAN decide to give us another taste as I feel was done through a tiny few in our history.
I don't understand why the Lost who need leaders will be followed? Everyone needs a leader to help them past their limitations. Some humans don't think they do instead relying on history or science, which does provide some leadership but not the ultimate kind that can only come from those who put this entire ball of wax together. In that way, most are lost, though don't think so thus what they think they are finding is a dead end thus of no importance. Is that what you meant?
Okay, I like that and I agree that we can never fully live up to the total truth/reality of that dance and if the designers didn't offer us bits of the dance in stages we would never come upon it on our own, but to assume nobody can get the steps right or right enough is like saying the designers created/developed a flawed model of teaching those steps. They have done this many, many times before so they know when and where they will have some yeild to the dance they teach.
The universe is too massive for us to even begin to comprehend it at this point, we like to think that at any one time in our history, that we have the awnser, but we don't, we never had. And it will long, long time before we find any truth. We can only do what creation has thus far allowed us to do, question, that's as evolved as we've been allowed to become. And that alone is more important than most can realize. Question..
I hate to say it because I am guilty of finding excuses for not opening my eyes further but this argument that it's too big so why bother with it, is fatalistic and self fulfilling serving only to create a type of ignoring of what may very well challenge us to consider. Another excuse I see is that nothing exists to begin with, which has a tiny piece of truth in it as well but is like a blocade against changing ourselves, our mind - a fear response. Another is, fear of anything new.
I'm not saying why bother. I'm just saying that anyone who claims to know the truth is mistaken. We are not able to know the truth yet. We can question the truth, we can wonder, but we don't know it, not yet. Everything in due time though. We will be told the truth, when creation allows us too. Sometimes it's entertaining, and comferting to suppose we know something, but most of the time we miss the obvious miracels chasing fantasys.
I'm sorry but you CAN'T KNOW that; "that anyone claiming to know the truth is mistaken" and I KNOW that because I know we (humans, space aliens or discarnate (dead humans)) ALL know they DID NOT "create" this physical globe and it's life energy at all. However, sure we will only have pieces and the semantical "know" is illusive to begin with and certainly I agree that for many it's comforting to feel in that "know" and miss the obvious miricles chasing fantasies - that's what religion really is.
Now on the chance that what you're referring to "not knowing until creation allows us to" is the undeniable proof of what is most real/true/eternal, etc. from our tiny life span perspective, then I agree that that "knowing" that "no one could deny as not been presented yet, but it's a two edged sword as no matter how that is revealed some will still not interpret it correctly. That's just the human animal , mental composite nature. However, I believe that event is still upcoming anyway.
The illusions are many & are all spurred from what is real thus each facet of the overall illusion provides an easy appeal to those who go with the flow that suits them for their sense of psychic security (that really doesn't exist, exept to secure it for stagnation & even decay). This is why religions are still so popular (in some forms) because they are easy to attach to & each restricts their membership from looking or seeing anything outside their own doctrine including science as religion.
This talk is great and I certainly respect your perspective on this but I think it largly has developed from a combonation of all the history of mankind in these paradyms - being the fish in the fish bowl but then some, even many claiming the answers. We see that now and RUN like hell no longer from fear as much from it's obvious insanity that same use to justify horrendous controls over others and disregard for the biggest issues, politisizing it all like a "theatre".
good to hear what specifically you found beneficial so I can continue on that vein for upcoming video/writings. I am also open to what was not clear or needs to be filled out better as I tend to try to squeeze a lot into the 10 minutes I have to play with for each video. If you find it useful it might be helpful to spread any of these video's to others possibly by posting video responses to others video's where appropriate which would bring greater exposure to the whole subject.
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This video was not produced by me. I simply facilitated it's coming to you. This marks yet another true resurrection, a return, a raising up of all we are and have been. There is no religous institution or evengelical movement anywhere on Earth past and present nor future that you will find to dispute the evidence here...but this is an example of the kingdom of God...They still leave you with the choice as each member of the Heaven's gate crew always had that I am witness to! Thanks Ti and Do!
glad it hit the mark for you. I hope it can go far and wide. anything you care to do to expedite that is welcomed or any of their DATA for that matter. There is so much to do and so little time. I'm also open to what to focus on more or less in future video's as there is so much to cover in all this.
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I'm open, but this wasn't very clear to me. What is "DATA"?
RossCaleb 1 year ago
@RossCaleb sorry someone flagged you as spam - it wasn't me. Try my new video's. I was cramming too much into one space - first attempts. DATA is the records of the relationship between the Level Above HUman (kingdom of God) and humans most of which is in the bible but includes records not permitted by council of niche through the catholics.
3spm 1 year ago
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RossCaleb 1 year ago
this is all fiction to me however i respect your veiws.
cha00halo 2 years ago
that's cool - enjoy your journey.
3spm 2 years ago
christianity has been proved untrue- evelotion, big bang- everytime you discover something that contradicts the bible you adapt
cha00halo 2 years ago
I agree there are many illusions in ALL the religoins and all thespirituality and all the science and all humaness BUT that doesn't mean this planet was not designed/developed by intelligent beings who are evolutionarily above human in the same way humans are above animals and animals above plants.The evidence is all around us. Nothing comes from nothing, even stephen hawkins and einstein agreed that the more they look at all there is, the more we see and prove ourselves lacking.
3spm 2 years ago
there tens of thousands of variables why this planet was made. Intelligent beings is probably one of the most unlikley- collisions of rocks and the billiions of years (probability comes into play here) is the most likely the reason.
cha00halo 2 years ago
10,000 variables to WHY, then name 1. Intelligent beings is "what" made the planets. I think having hundreds and thousands of eye witnesses to many many events that make our current scientific acheivments look puny, given human acheivements did require "intelligence", did it not, IS huge "proof" that it equally took amazing intelligence to accomplish elemental compositions that grow to have a choice in what they think they are. That's amazing proof. There is so much proof it's unbearable.
3spm 2 years ago
It's of no concern to me who is willing to look at the entire picture. It's easy to shoot things down we are afraid to consider as we dont' want to be labeled cooky. That goes for science of mind and body and environment. I could write and give literally thousands of pieces of certain evidences to you and unless you want to press past ALL old notions,you will never count them even possible let alone "believe" what they may in fact point to. Adaptation exists to. It ALL holds reality/truthes.
3spm 2 years ago
humans as a race use christianity as the follow in groups- like the snowball theory. Also, just because science has not yet fully explianed why everything started it does not mean we must put something like god in its place. We must strive to discover rather than place something that has very little proof.
cha00halo 2 years ago
christianity isn't from the Gods and what you are calling a snowball theory is the same path ALL humans take - follow the leader. The ONLY exceptions are those ALL generally hate, because only those given God seed can SEE their parents. The rest simply debate it or create clubs to act like they know something they don't.
3spm 2 years ago
Planet Earth is being recycled and there is only one way out. Drink poisoned Kool Aid...this magic Kool Aid will beam you up in to a great space coaster and you can fly around with Jesus and all of the other good aliens.
stinkyjunk 2 years ago
For the record they didn't use kool aid and nobody was beamed anywhere. They went into the spirit world. They came to me many times in my dream time, not all of them and Do maybe four times until the last time when jwnody came to me and told me that they were leaving. That was October 2006 and I haven't heard from them since, though I suspect a few stayed back to help with the follow up. These are not aliens. Aliens are human equivilents. These are ABOVE HUMAN like human is above animal.
3spm 2 years ago
you just go on and on and on with lies and shit and its all your smug little ego ... Theres what you imagine to be US . we ,us and anyone who isnt LIKE YOU you pathetic blithering fool is THEM. There is no US behind your words.Just a pile of shit
luckylangerie 2 years ago
once your dead your dead you rot and become recycled within the earth. You cannot become a spirit and still be able to fuction. You require a chemical make up for anything to function...
cha00halo 2 years ago
I know that you can't know that. I can pick up a cell phone and dial you and talk without any wires, just device to device. How great is the human device? Where do "thoughts" come from? What creates that "sound" in our heads? Sorry, but I've seen many things with my eyes that one is not supposed to see, that is not supposed to exist except in sci-fi movies. The facts are you, nor I know what we don't know but if we are honest with ourselves we will admit that there is a great deal we don't know.
3spm 2 years ago
Also there is no magic potion or magic method to entering their kingdom. No one does anything for you, except to show you how, which does take a mighty effort and we could not do it without their physical hands on help. The reason I didn't go with them was because they knew I was not ready though I thought I was. There are some space aliens who the Next Level may employ to help with certain tasks of watchers or messengers. These will not show themselves to humans. There are signs happening now.
3spm 2 years ago
using the theory with intelligent life there are around 24 intelligent species within our galaxy- each one seperated by millions of light years. You cannot in any ways break the speed of lights. Wormoles? These too are seperated ironically by millions of light years. Furthermore, were is your evidence for all these (in my opinion) completley false claims
cha00halo 2 years ago
who do you trust with "24 intelligent species" to say it as fact and how do you know there aren't ways to travel that are not related to the speed of light. What if a worm hole is a super highway - a vacuum suspended within two huge sections of dark energy, thus a doorway. Look into bob lazar's story on this if you like.
3spm 2 years ago
You base all your comments on things that could be not fact
cha00halo 2 years ago
what can not be a "fact"? Is dark energy a "fact"? Is bob lazar's scientific descriptoin of how it's possible to "bend time and space" as it's a fabric, a fact or fiction? Is it possible a worm hole is a superhighway?
How important is it to you to either disprove things I say or to be certain about things you say?
Of course we all at best are floundering around in descripbing all this. How much hard "fact" is there for the tiny fish in the huge fishbowl?
3spm 2 years ago
a tiny fish to a huge fish bowl? 3% of space is matter- stars galexies planets asteriods not alien higways or spaceships. just face it most likely in the universe we are all ALONE
cha00halo 2 years ago
what's not matter or matter enabled? Are not particles matter? Are frequencies absent of matter? When one makes a sound they are vibrating matter with the force from their vocalchords.That works that way because each particle is embedded and enabled by frequency - electro magnetic radition, a mini univerise with. The less the frequency the more dense the matter and the less animated it can be and the less animated the more limitations.
3spm 2 years ago
@3spm A wormhole is a bit more complicated than that, but it is also just a mathematical concept. If wormholes did exist in nature we couldn't take advantage of them because they only stay open for an instant.
Basically I think you're trying to leap before you can walk. Science will advance, but cherry-picking unrelated ideas, putting them together, misinterpreting what they mean, and then adding a layer of mysticism is not going to help. In fact it has always hindered things.
icemachine79 1 year ago
@icemachine79 Fine - they are more complicated...so is everything really as we see by each and every scientific advance that often speaks little to the steps that need to be taken backward in the overall process of progression. Everything can be boiled down to "just a mathematical concept" if someone tries to so that's a no brainer as well. Two obvious problems with your stated assumption on wormhold existence and their duration.
3spm 1 year ago
@icemachine79 First off I know that you don't know how long they could exist and by whose time frame to you issue the measure of an "instant". Is an instant on mars the same as an instant on the sun or earth? It's stupid talk isn't it and your trying to impress me by stating that you think I am leaping before I can walk. I never claimed to leap at all. What unrelated ideas did I purport? What did I misinterpret and whose data was it?
3spm 1 year ago
@3spm An instant as in a Plank epoch - the smallest subdivision of time that is possible. No information - including matter - could be sent through them. The only way to stabilize such a structure would be with material that would violate several basic laws of physics. Its basically the same thing that prevents us from traveling faster than light in normal space. I'm not saying that other methods couldn't be found, but wormholes are a dead end (no pun intended).
icemachine79 1 year ago
@icemachine79 several weeks ago scientists gathered in DC to conference about their seeing through the hubble two objects in space in orbit around one, while the two objects were hotter than the one they orbitted. Explain that! Now I know someone will BUT so could a 10 yr old come up with something.
3spm 1 year ago
@icemachine79 Since you state that wormholes are dead, explain why or show me the research and I'll show you someone who is stating a theory. Do you think it's possible that someone not educated in the sciences per say can know things a scientiist doesn't yet know? Even if you are right, I'm talking about freeways in space.
3spm 1 year ago
@icemachine79 What is mysticism but what we lack plausible explaination of OR a misinformation campaign to shroud aspects of reality we have yet to nail down to postulates and theorms and hypthosis and how does this mysticism as you see it hinder anything that is not already being hindered? Is it possible it also potentially advances our perception of reality and it's science?
3spm 1 year ago
@3spm Mysticism is trying to fill in the blanks before you have all the information. That's why I made the "leaping before you walk" comment. Quantum physics has opened up a whole new world of understanding, but it doesn't alter reality. We just have a deeper understanding of why things work the way they do, and perhaps it will allow us to do some things we think are impossible now, but it will be well into the future before that happens.
icemachine79 1 year ago
@icemachine79 We NEVER have ALL the information. Mysticism is to date a catch all tag that gives some licence to dramatize and elevate themselves, though at it's roots was simply attempts to explain what we otherwise don't have a normal material comprehension of. Just because you don't want to consider that what I am sharing could have some basis in fact, doesn't mean it's mysticism, except to you. Quantum physics is also very simple when you scrape away all the cult terminology.
3spm 1 year ago
@3spm cont. In the meantime we need patience, and we also need to not jump to conclusions based on spotty evidence. Misunderstanding of things like the observer effect have caused people to think they can alter reality with their minds, which is ridiculous. Focusing on things that merely have anecdotal evidence or no evidence at all is a waste of time and resources. I'm just tired of science being misunderstood as a concept; I didn't mean it to come out as a personal attack and I'm sorry.
icemachine79 1 year ago
@icemachine79 Humans can only alter reality in their own and other's heads, though they can muck up environments and lives galore in the process. Reading & taking courses on physics doesn't enable someone to have any common sense about our reality. Anyone who says something can't happen or determines when it might exists in an illusion about themselves and who they listen to.
3spm 1 year ago
@icemachine79 Who is leaping here before they even know that they are at best crawling. At least I know I'm crawling though it may be like speeding to other crawlers.
3spm 1 year ago
For instance I suspect the signs from the Next Level appear natural. You won't see a spacecraft or little greys or hear voices or be spoken to through channels or psychics or the religious or spiritual. These mentioned can do tricks often using the spirit world or alien spacecrafts to try to fool you. When the Next Level finally comes again I suspect our electrical devices will cease to work so there will be no more debate any longer. A few souls will be taken at that time.
3spm 2 years ago
Anyone who has heard this information is being forced to be who they are. All will get exactly what they desire most. For many it will be nothingness as they expect. For others it will be a future opportunity to live, even after they physially die. Some may remain in spirit form for a while, but once in spirit no one can change what they have become. But until then, however long it is, the chance remains to change and that could include asking in your silence for connection to Ti and Do. Choose!
3spm 2 years ago
for wholga
once again, who determines what is and isn't an "informal and formal logical fallacy"? you? Euclid?
But the real question is: why are you spending energy telling us that Ti, Do and the Class (HG) are so "illogical"? If Ti, Do and the Class are so illogical to you then why would you even bother telling SWY and I that? After all, we're not rational and "illogical" so your self-professed logical thoughts are going to fall on our fallacious ears. Simply put: HOW DOES THIS AFFECT YOU?
carlanDoTi 2 years ago 2
typo: "illogical" was meant to be "logical"-all very funny...yes, very funny
carlanDoTi 2 years ago
Granted everyone, you all have been baraged with claims, lies, deceit, supposition, distortions, misrepresentations, calculated mis/dis information, even blatent manipulations by those in Religions, Politics and Business so why wouldn't someone want proof that there may in fact have been a few exceptions on this planet. No one should accept anything blindly BUT if that means that we decide to BE blind, then we will see to it. I need to do a better job with this video as I have lots more "proof".
3spm 2 years ago
you are extremely hypocritical talking about lies
cha00halo 2 years ago
what exactly am I being hypocritical about? What lies am I telling. Your responses are unsubstantiated by the anything concrete, usually the sign of someone who just doesn't know but wishes to try to save face thus throughs out generalities. This isn't a contest to me to see who can outdo the other. So fine, I can admit being hypocritical in a sense but yet I dont' know if you know me well enough to suggest in ways that may be. If you have something concrete to address please do, otherwise rest.
3spm 2 years ago
Some people hate whatever it is that doesn't make them look good or great. That's the real crying shame - how primitive beings that are little more than animals that even many animals seem more civilized than, can think so much of themselves that they think they are alone in the universe or on the top of any heap on a planet they had nothign at all to do with the creation of and that everything they touch turns to destruction and then think they are superior because of. Wow, that's a twist!
3spm 2 years ago
It's a crying shame Heaven's Gate didn't die. I guess some things must be killed more than once to make sure. Round 2 will have the media spotlight for a bit, then all will be forgotten, as people of reason and rational thought will press on. I'm actually not sure which is sicker, Christianity itself, or Heaven's Gate's derivation of it.
whoiga 2 years ago
Why is this such a concern to you? Do you think it's "dangerous" as I've heard say, for people to believe that there is more to life than meets the eye, your eye, my eye, ALL of OUR EYEs and in fact many, many times more. Sure Christianity is sick as you say as are all the religions of which atheism is yet another. ALL of them are human and all thrive on other's sufferring. Of course not all people - just those in bed with the leaderships. Do you see "reason" in the world. Yes reason for greed.
3spm 2 years ago
Atheism isn't a religion, it's a belief system in which evidence is required for belief to occur. We have no problem believing things, but we want to believe in as many truths and as few falsehoods as possible, and suffice it to say, the claims made here are about as verifiable as the claims made by Scientology/Peoples Temple/Christianity/Islam/Judaism/etc. Bring some evidence to the table & discard logical fallacies, and people will have no problem believing claims made in these videos.
whoiga 2 years ago
A religion is "an organized system of beliefs". I know atheists that believe in nothing they can't touch or doesn't come through academic channels. What would constitute evidence to you. I somehow "believed" in spirits when I was young, perhaps because of experiences others may not have BUT then on two distinct occasions I saw beings in a near or partly invisible context while awake, but I 99% guarantee you won't count my experience as proof, nor should you, but being open to it is a first step.
3spm 2 years ago
Jesus was asked for proof and he said none would be given except the sign of jonah, having to do with the resurrection from death to life that he demonstrated on the physical level but is also related to the spirit birth once a student has sufficiently ovecome their desire to be human. So jesus did not count so called "miricles" - healing's, etc as proof and if you were wowed into belief you'd be no better than a pawn which the next level don't want so they require you to thirst for your proof.
3spm 2 years ago
I'm still pondering your expression here as I don't deny your questions and the sense that you are a discerning seeker in these days of easy entrenchment in illusions, but you will not find proof until you have allowed yourself to let go of some of your barriers, not to trust me or any person, but whatever you want to conceive brought this all to be as for sure it wasn't human or space alien generated, except in how they manipulate it. Don't you think it takes intelligence to create intelligence
3spm 2 years ago
Don't you think that we have many examples of how it takes intelligence to create intelligence like computers, automobiles & even though we don't actually create children (we facilitate the existing genetic systems) we raise them to often be closer to angels or demons in their behavior (how they treat others). That all takes lots of work, so how could it not be possible for at least that much work required to set up these systems we all take moreorless for granted? And function is a key word.
3spm 2 years ago
Isn't it interesting that all things natural demonstrate function in relationship to the support of the whole, even to the recycling of one form of matter to another. This is also evidence of what it took to bring this about - lots and lots of trial and a type of error, in that all things can always be improved upon in one way or another mentally(behaviorally) and physically. All things on Earth can be servicable to humans & moreorless against their will give their life so we can live as we want
3spm 2 years ago
Animals serve the life of humans as do plants and minerals in their degree of life and in their death, yet it's not exactly voluntary, though once an animal is domesticated and even trained they will do what is otherwise very fearful to their survival instincts in service to that human trainer whom they developed belief/trust, even seemingly blind faith towards. But is it blind faith or faith from experience & the mutual love/attention/giving of one to another. And humans do this for others too.
3spm 2 years ago
But would any animal do for another lifeform something that wouldn't instinctually benefit themselves in some way? One example is parents for their young, but only extends til their offspring is a viable adult. Humans however because of their reasoning ability can choose to give even their life for the well being of other life forms that they are even superior to because it's their choice to do so, not an obvious survivalism. This is evidence of evolving mind/behavior because how it can serve.
3spm 2 years ago
However, could a seeing eye dog train itself to provide that function to a human or a sheep dog or a circus animal or to do a domestic chore, etc without a being it sees as superior to show it, teach/train it? Logic Does provide evidence, though we can't pin point what, except when we see examples of how we humans have also become trained, reluctantly at first but by repetition & great teachers willing to sacrifice for us to where it's common sense that we can all work together while others hate
3spm 2 years ago
because not all are touched in the same way or time & chose to open up to that which show the most evidence of being our ultimate teachers, that by seeking to grow from gain experience that in turn builds trust/faith/belief in and genuine desire and sense of honor to serve. But how do we tell who these teachers are as so many use all these lofty words but then we learn were disingenuine or fradulent or just want our money & support of themselves? Well actually when we really want to see we will.
3spm 2 years ago
But the historic clues are well in place in my opinion. Surely beings that could orchestrate our reality don't NEED us for anything so They will not make it easy to see them and they won't seem to have any human (animal self centered) motivation for us to believe in what they say and what they say will appeal to a certain type of common sense, practicality & not contain airs or pretences of self importance. But most of all they will bring us challenging ideas to our accumulated status quo.
3spm 2 years ago
This will cause most everybody to hate them because as they gain a few followers those entrenched will feel threatened and/or that their loved ones are being threatened so will mount a campaign against their continuence to the point that they will be killed, yet for no apparant logical societal reason except fear of how others may be brainwashed, which is in itself a brainwashed perspective that discounts further functional evolution of any kind, which they never understand so make theorectical.
3spm 2 years ago
Who determines what "must be killed more than once to make sure"? Only those that you deem to be using "reason and rational thought". Are you really so blinded by your hubris that you think that you have the right to decide what individuals can and cannot discuss and put their energy into? Why do you even care that this video is on here? People who thought they were using reason and rational developed the atomic bomb. Don't judge things you have chosen to not understand.
carlanDoTi 2 years ago
I don't have the right to decide what can be discussed, but I do have the right to criticize and evaluate the claims made within any discussion. This stuff is full of formal & informal logical fallacies. I can only hope that the rest of you won't commit suicide and share the fate of those followers before you. Money, nuclear technology, power, are all amoral. Responsibility & accountability rests with those individuals who happen upon them.
whoiga 2 years ago
Yes that event is most definately upcoming, though trying to pinpoint when is impossible. We will evolve only when the great calamity befalls us.
chriscancer13 2 years ago
Agreed though we can be aware of signs as the weather but we don't know how many signs there have been or will occur and what will be their scope, application and duration as each will see what they are programmed or seek to see. This is where I agree that Questions are great because they are "seeking" to know more but become a trap if we also don't watch, observe and listen which means taking it all in as much as possible while reserving opinion, that is until it generates into some "knowing".
3spm 2 years ago
I agree when that occurs, which I believe is well underway, called a time of increased "trouble" as we can't deny is escalating all around us but to a peak, all peoples will have sowed their seeds, thus decided or remained undecided as to what they believe in so that whatever the final event seen as a calamity to some and to others a reward, I believe then will begin the spoken of 1000 yrs of peace - the meek shall inherit the Earth - the lowerforce spirts and aliens will be shut up or absent.
3spm 2 years ago
Of course it is beyond us but that's the point to those working the development project to periodically inject into our environment more info about the overall reality. Without their instigation we would know next to nothing and I actually believe we would never know much more. But to assume we can never "begin" to comprehend it is to deny a grand plan with higher beings doing the creating who at any moment CAN decide to give us another taste as I feel was done through a tiny few in our history.
3spm 2 years ago
The lost need leaders, so therefore the lost will be followed. In the end, nobody will find anything of importance.
chriscancer13 2 years ago
I don't understand why the Lost who need leaders will be followed? Everyone needs a leader to help them past their limitations. Some humans don't think they do instead relying on history or science, which does provide some leadership but not the ultimate kind that can only come from those who put this entire ball of wax together. In that way, most are lost, though don't think so thus what they think they are finding is a dead end thus of no importance. Is that what you meant?
3spm 2 years ago
I mean it's all a great dance, and when the truth is told, nobody will have gotten the steps right.
chriscancer13 2 years ago
Okay, I like that and I agree that we can never fully live up to the total truth/reality of that dance and if the designers didn't offer us bits of the dance in stages we would never come upon it on our own, but to assume nobody can get the steps right or right enough is like saying the designers created/developed a flawed model of teaching those steps. They have done this many, many times before so they know when and where they will have some yeild to the dance they teach.
3spm 2 years ago
The universe is too massive for us to even begin to comprehend it at this point, we like to think that at any one time in our history, that we have the awnser, but we don't, we never had. And it will long, long time before we find any truth. We can only do what creation has thus far allowed us to do, question, that's as evolved as we've been allowed to become. And that alone is more important than most can realize. Question..
chriscancer13 2 years ago
I hate to say it because I am guilty of finding excuses for not opening my eyes further but this argument that it's too big so why bother with it, is fatalistic and self fulfilling serving only to create a type of ignoring of what may very well challenge us to consider. Another excuse I see is that nothing exists to begin with, which has a tiny piece of truth in it as well but is like a blocade against changing ourselves, our mind - a fear response. Another is, fear of anything new.
3spm 2 years ago
I'm not saying why bother. I'm just saying that anyone who claims to know the truth is mistaken. We are not able to know the truth yet. We can question the truth, we can wonder, but we don't know it, not yet. Everything in due time though. We will be told the truth, when creation allows us too. Sometimes it's entertaining, and comferting to suppose we know something, but most of the time we miss the obvious miracels chasing fantasys.
chriscancer13 2 years ago
I'm sorry but you CAN'T KNOW that; "that anyone claiming to know the truth is mistaken" and I KNOW that because I know we (humans, space aliens or discarnate (dead humans)) ALL know they DID NOT "create" this physical globe and it's life energy at all. However, sure we will only have pieces and the semantical "know" is illusive to begin with and certainly I agree that for many it's comforting to feel in that "know" and miss the obvious miricles chasing fantasies - that's what religion really is.
3spm 2 years ago
Now on the chance that what you're referring to "not knowing until creation allows us to" is the undeniable proof of what is most real/true/eternal, etc. from our tiny life span perspective, then I agree that that "knowing" that "no one could deny as not been presented yet, but it's a two edged sword as no matter how that is revealed some will still not interpret it correctly. That's just the human animal , mental composite nature. However, I believe that event is still upcoming anyway.
3spm 2 years ago
The illusions are many & are all spurred from what is real thus each facet of the overall illusion provides an easy appeal to those who go with the flow that suits them for their sense of psychic security (that really doesn't exist, exept to secure it for stagnation & even decay). This is why religions are still so popular (in some forms) because they are easy to attach to & each restricts their membership from looking or seeing anything outside their own doctrine including science as religion.
3spm 2 years ago
This talk is great and I certainly respect your perspective on this but I think it largly has developed from a combonation of all the history of mankind in these paradyms - being the fish in the fish bowl but then some, even many claiming the answers. We see that now and RUN like hell no longer from fear as much from it's obvious insanity that same use to justify horrendous controls over others and disregard for the biggest issues, politisizing it all like a "theatre".
3spm 2 years ago
I like this video because it shows how next level beings are and therefore it offers a guideline how to change self to become like that.
Thank you for posting this video.
TDYT240 2 years ago
good to hear what specifically you found beneficial so I can continue on that vein for upcoming video/writings. I am also open to what was not clear or needs to be filled out better as I tend to try to squeeze a lot into the 10 minutes I have to play with for each video. If you find it useful it might be helpful to spread any of these video's to others possibly by posting video responses to others video's where appropriate which would bring greater exposure to the whole subject.
3spm 2 years ago
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Jaydenqza 2 years ago
This video was not produced by me. I simply facilitated it's coming to you. This marks yet another true resurrection, a return, a raising up of all we are and have been. There is no religous institution or evengelical movement anywhere on Earth past and present nor future that you will find to dispute the evidence here...but this is an example of the kingdom of God...They still leave you with the choice as each member of the Heaven's gate crew always had that I am witness to! Thanks Ti and Do!
3spm 2 years ago
thats the best one yet. superb!
mopme2008 2 years ago
glad it hit the mark for you. I hope it can go far and wide. anything you care to do to expedite that is welcomed or any of their DATA for that matter. There is so much to do and so little time. I'm also open to what to focus on more or less in future video's as there is so much to cover in all this.
3spm 2 years ago