@BassDudeBear The prize of a wheellock was high, so the additional costs for rifling a gun were just peenuts. The noble huntsman of the 16th century and the gamekeeper or forester of the 17th century would surely have a rifle. If he prefered a smoothbore gun, it was because of its shorter reloading time.
Watch out for the bone or staghorn inlaid sliding patchbox covers of the guns of that period.
@BassDudeBear And the joys of being in a powerful position. Many princes did what seems to be rather modern: They took up credits and ruined their countreis. Many riflemakers and other artisans never saw real money but received titles such as: Royal Gunsmith or Deliverer to the Court. That of course raised their reputation and brought in more wealthy customers.Try finding pictures of wheellocks of the collections of the Tower, Metropolitan Museum or the collection of the Zwinger in Dresden .
I 've shot flinters for many years I love em too. Wheelock's are faster and more sure fire. True they're more complicated and harder to work on . Fintlocks were a compromise trading speed of lock time and some miss fires for simplicity. Wheelocks lasted in some places until the precussion era which just wiped them out.
@TheTouchhole Right you are. My 1600 wheellock makes "shhh- click" and not "click-shh" when you fire it. The priming powder is on fire well before the mainspring hits the bridle at its "resting position". I shall soon have a fine barrel proof-marked and a new stock shaped. The lock probably came from a 30-Years-War arquebus or carbine and shall be one again.
@bassmanboe The Rifle Shope in OK. has wheellock kits it may take a year to get it I made one from their kit but ended up useing it as a tinplate all the parts are cast . I've made two wheellocks
@TheTouchhole I'm about finished with the second wheellock I'm hardening the wheel today. and hopeing the timeing is right .The pan has to open in time to ignite the priming before the wheel quits spinning. That means the chain has to be exactly the right length and the wheel has to be spanned 3/4 of a turn no less I wish I'd have taken up brain surgery
@bassmanboe hi, ask "Bolek1964'" the polish riflemaker, you find some of his videos here. He will soon get the order for two wheellocks from me. I have two period barrels and I can make the stocks and inlays myself, but the lock is too much for me.
thats awesome do you hunt with it? i like the matchlock, wheelock, and the flint lock not these new in line ignition, breechloading, scoped hunks of crap good for you for goin primitive.:)
I've made a wheelock rifle and am about 3/4 finished on the second one. They have a fast, sure fire ignition with no hammer inertia. It took a while to get used to shooting it only resting on my cheek.
The sliding patchbox cover is clearly visible, indicating a RIFLE. When hunting meant climbing rocks and mountains, making your way through dense forests and undergrowth where a wild boar knew how to fight for its life, a shorter barrel was common. Many good wheellock rifles were restocked with French shoulderstocks in the 18th century.
@tristan2345 so do I. I am building a caliver ( lightweight musket) at the moment from an 18th century smoothbore barrel and 1600s wheellock that might have been used in the 30 years war.
The pan and pancover where down and had to be replaced, but the spring and the wheel are in perfect order.
In my collection I have several guns with straight rifling, that does not give the ball a spinning motion, but which have no patchbox in the butt, and I have smoothbore guns which have a patchbox, nevertheless the role is that a gun with a patchbox was made for an accurate shot with a ball which was wrapped in greasy felt, lealther or cloth when loaded. The vast majority of those guns were rifled.
Matchlock rifles often had a patchboxcover made from horn or bone or were lined with it.
Rifled barrels were in use in Germany (including today's Austria, Northern Italy, Czech Republic) as early as the first half of the 16th century.
The origins are unknown, so is the inventor.
As arrows and crossbow bolts had been made with their feathers giving them a twist in the air for hundreds of years, the idea of making a ball spin around its axis as well was more or less on hand.
@udienow146 Someone has repeatedly tried selling a 17th century rifle- restocked in the 18th century- similar to the one in the video. on "egun.de" for 5000 Euros plus. There were no bidders.
I would say ; if you are lucky you can get one for about 10000$ at a good auctioning house.
@Jeansschwimmer Haha, i doubt anyone gives a shit about period rifles, repros are much more worth it, though of course not in europe, cant import here in the UK as far as i know
@Pawnbroker00 What do you mean? By the way, the gun seems to be put up for auction again. Go to 3 x w.egun.de and look under "Radschloss".
There are only two makers of stylistically perfect repros: One lives in Poland, you find him here on Youtube, th eother one is called König and lives in Germany. He works a lot for people who do 30 Years War re-enactments.
@udienow146 The weapon is a typical "Müllerbüchse", nobody can say where this term comes from, but museums and antique dealers use it for Germanic wheellock RIFLES!!!! that have a shoulder stock and not the common cheekstock.
@udienow146 Dear friend. I shoot two 18th century rifles from my collection ( with a new proof mark- compulsory over here for the use on shooting ranges for assurance and general safety reasons).
Both are around 0.60 '' calibre. The barrels have some pitches from corrossion and I have to push the brush or some rag through them after some five shots. If I don't I will need a mallet to hammer the ball down with no reasonable results besides "holes in the air" or splintered frames of the targets.
REDNECKS!!!!!!
legokid5872 1 month ago
First came matchlock then this then flintlock the percussion cap
alekey15 2 months ago
beautiful around what time did this weapon come out
TheSpaniard1521 4 months ago
Didn't know they made wheel lock rifles..surely it would have been far too expensive?
BassDudeBear 7 months ago
@BassDudeBear The prize of a wheellock was high, so the additional costs for rifling a gun were just peenuts. The noble huntsman of the 16th century and the gamekeeper or forester of the 17th century would surely have a rifle. If he prefered a smoothbore gun, it was because of its shorter reloading time.
Watch out for the bone or staghorn inlaid sliding patchbox covers of the guns of that period.
Jeansschwimmer 2 months ago
@Jeansschwimmer ah, cheers man. The joys of being rich eh?
BassDudeBear 2 months ago
@BassDudeBear And the joys of being in a powerful position. Many princes did what seems to be rather modern: They took up credits and ruined their countreis. Many riflemakers and other artisans never saw real money but received titles such as: Royal Gunsmith or Deliverer to the Court. That of course raised their reputation and brought in more wealthy customers.Try finding pictures of wheellocks of the collections of the Tower, Metropolitan Museum or the collection of the Zwinger in Dresden .
Jeansschwimmer 1 month ago
I'm a flintlock fan
runescape44411 1 year ago
@runescape44411
I 've shot flinters for many years I love em too. Wheelock's are faster and more sure fire. True they're more complicated and harder to work on . Fintlocks were a compromise trading speed of lock time and some miss fires for simplicity. Wheelocks lasted in some places until the precussion era which just wiped them out.
TheTouchhole 1 year ago
@TheTouchhole Right you are. My 1600 wheellock makes "shhh- click" and not "click-shh" when you fire it. The priming powder is on fire well before the mainspring hits the bridle at its "resting position". I shall soon have a fine barrel proof-marked and a new stock shaped. The lock probably came from a 30-Years-War arquebus or carbine and shall be one again.
Jeansschwimmer 1 year ago
Beautiful Weapon! Where did you find such a piece?
murpheysmuskets 1 year ago
i have been looking for a wheel lock kit but i haven't had any luck. do you know anyone who makes one?
bassmanboe 1 year ago
@bassmanboe The Rifle Shope in OK. has wheellock kits it may take a year to get it I made one from their kit but ended up useing it as a tinplate all the parts are cast . I've made two wheellocks
TheTouchhole 1 year ago
@TheTouchhole I'm about finished with the second wheellock I'm hardening the wheel today. and hopeing the timeing is right .The pan has to open in time to ignite the priming before the wheel quits spinning. That means the chain has to be exactly the right length and the wheel has to be spanned 3/4 of a turn no less I wish I'd have taken up brain surgery
TheTouchhole 1 year ago
@bassmanboe hi, ask "Bolek1964'" the polish riflemaker, you find some of his videos here. He will soon get the order for two wheellocks from me. I have two period barrels and I can make the stocks and inlays myself, but the lock is too much for me.
Jeansschwimmer 8 months ago
this pants are used for turks look in age of empires 2
Snapx4000 1 year ago
thats awesome do you hunt with it? i like the matchlock, wheelock, and the flint lock not these new in line ignition, breechloading, scoped hunks of crap good for you for goin primitive.:)
naicam1 1 year ago
German? Of course its rifled.
tenchimuyo69 1 year ago
nice pants :D
MapleSephiroth 1 year ago 4
@MapleSephiroth thanks :)
blacksmithju 1 year ago
I've made a wheelock rifle and am about 3/4 finished on the second one. They have a fast, sure fire ignition with no hammer inertia. It took a while to get used to shooting it only resting on my cheek.
TheTouchhole 1 year ago
What makes me love this kind of gun is not of it's killing power; the wheel mechanism just astonishes me.
sandpenguinEX 1 year ago
Is it an actual rifle or is it a smooth barrel
joshuago8 1 year ago
The sliding patchbox cover is clearly visible, indicating a RIFLE. When hunting meant climbing rocks and mountains, making your way through dense forests and undergrowth where a wild boar knew how to fight for its life, a shorter barrel was common. Many good wheellock rifles were restocked with French shoulderstocks in the 18th century.
Jeansschwimmer 1 year ago
i love wheellocks
tristan2345 1 year ago
@tristan2345 so do I. I am building a caliver ( lightweight musket) at the moment from an 18th century smoothbore barrel and 1600s wheellock that might have been used in the 30 years war.
The pan and pancover where down and had to be replaced, but the spring and the wheel are in perfect order.
Jeansschwimmer 1 year ago
@Jeansschwimmer as it so happen i happen to be a caliver in the SK lol wow how long will that take cos there a work of art
tristan2345 1 year ago
In my collection I have several guns with straight rifling, that does not give the ball a spinning motion, but which have no patchbox in the butt, and I have smoothbore guns which have a patchbox, nevertheless the role is that a gun with a patchbox was made for an accurate shot with a ball which was wrapped in greasy felt, lealther or cloth when loaded. The vast majority of those guns were rifled.
Matchlock rifles often had a patchboxcover made from horn or bone or were lined with it.
Jeansschwimmer 2 years ago
the rule is, not the role..
sorry for my poor spelling
Jeansschwimmer 2 years ago
does it have rifling?
cause i know u can buy a replacement barrel with rifling
udienow146 2 years ago
it is rifled.
blacksmithju 2 years ago
it isn't historically actuate then, they didn't have rifling until after the flint-lock
naused321 2 years ago
need to correct you there, rifling was not common until the apperance of the flint lock. But it was known in the 1490s
EGCblackknight 2 years ago
Sorry, my friend.
Rifled barrels were in use in Germany (including today's Austria, Northern Italy, Czech Republic) as early as the first half of the 16th century.
The origins are unknown, so is the inventor.
As arrows and crossbow bolts had been made with their feathers giving them a twist in the air for hundreds of years, the idea of making a ball spin around its axis as well was more or less on hand.
Jeansschwimmer 2 years ago
@Jeansschwimmer
rifling as we know it was propabely invented by the Chinese or Japanese but a rifling upon a tank was invited by eh British with a paintent on it lol
tristan2345 1 year ago
@naused321 There are sure alot of flintlock Kentucky -Pennsylvania RIFLES floating around I've seen alot of rifled wheelocks too.
TheTouchhole 1 year ago
@blacksmithju That isn't very historical.
Jerkwilkesbooth 7 months ago
@udienow146 Ok, so since it has rifling, i guess it could be a wheelock rifle, how much is it worth?
udienow146 1 year ago
@udienow146 Someone has repeatedly tried selling a 17th century rifle- restocked in the 18th century- similar to the one in the video. on "egun.de" for 5000 Euros plus. There were no bidders.
I would say ; if you are lucky you can get one for about 10000$ at a good auctioning house.
Jeansschwimmer 1 year ago
@Jeansschwimmer Haha, i doubt anyone gives a shit about period rifles, repros are much more worth it, though of course not in europe, cant import here in the UK as far as i know
Pawnbroker00 10 months ago
@Pawnbroker00 What do you mean? By the way, the gun seems to be put up for auction again. Go to 3 x w.egun.de and look under "Radschloss".
There are only two makers of stylistically perfect repros: One lives in Poland, you find him here on Youtube, th eother one is called König and lives in Germany. He works a lot for people who do 30 Years War re-enactments.
Jeansschwimmer 10 months ago
its not a rifle its a MUSKET!!!!!!!!!
naused321 2 years ago
more like a smoothbore musket.but ur right unless it has rifling,which i highly doubt
udienow146 2 years ago
rifling is a very old technique.
LutzDerLurch 2 years ago
@udienow146 The weapon is a typical "Müllerbüchse", nobody can say where this term comes from, but museums and antique dealers use it for Germanic wheellock RIFLES!!!! that have a shoulder stock and not the common cheekstock.
Jeansschwimmer 1 year ago
it is a Rifle
LutzDerLurch 2 years ago
The person in the vidoe left a comment that the gun was rifled, so it is a rifle. Muskets are military smooth bores,
EGCblackknight 2 years ago
actualy its a RIFLE!!!! the weapon has rifling
pwnmaster77 1 year ago
@naused321 If it has a rifled barrel it could be a rifle. Although highly rare, firearms did have rifling in that era. Although it would jam alot
udienow146 1 year ago
@udienow146 Dear friend. I shoot two 18th century rifles from my collection ( with a new proof mark- compulsory over here for the use on shooting ranges for assurance and general safety reasons).
Both are around 0.60 '' calibre. The barrels have some pitches from corrossion and I have to push the brush or some rag through them after some five shots. If I don't I will need a mallet to hammer the ball down with no reasonable results besides "holes in the air" or splintered frames of the targets.
Jeansschwimmer 1 year ago
Man that is just teriffic...
Zeanu 2 years ago
ah amazing weapon! how did you find it?
FerrilEwok 2 years ago 5
I would love to have one especially a jaeger
NAVC130VET 3 years ago 6
sweet,is it good to hunt with?
ChromeGhost0219 3 years ago