Stock for stock, a Cobalt SC will take an Ion SC.... So it really doesn't matter that the Ion is only stage 2 while the Cobalt is stage 3. Cobalt still pawns either way. Even with the 'same motor'.
wow!!! no shit ur stage 3 cobalt (2.0 supercharged) beat a stage 2 ion redline(2.0 supercharged. And you can do that all day. hmmm.... interesting. stage 3 is better than stage 2 so no shit. they both have the same motors but ur boosting higher,hmmm. why dont you race one with a stage 3 then compare. other wise you make urself look stupid. (future ion RD owner) If he used a little nitrous he would make ur stage 3 look like a stage 1 lmao Duh ta duh
@dirtyd2005 i really dont think there from different companies...technically yes saturn is saturn, chevy is chevy but they do have 2 letters in common....GM....same engine, different name, different stage performance, same company...and it sounded like you were using a turbo with that high pitch squeeling or does the SC do the same thing
@Whiplash8807 a turbo doesnt do a high pitch scream like that. its called a supercharger whine. turbos should never make that sound... if anything they will make a "surge" sound because of air escaping at full boost. (you hear it more on straight pipes.) and i think he was comparing the stage difference of different brands not the actual cars. because u r correct they are almost the exact same car. same motor trans and frame.. ion has a different body and isnt as stiff as the cobalt due to the
@keatonguitar123 lol r u gonna beat us with ur offroading ion? lol i have a cobalt that ill race u with any day you out in southern cali. lmao go put more rum in ur glass maybe youll believe urself still.
that was my friend being a tard...... dont like that comment either. i like the look of the redlines a little more than the cobalt the front end looks more aggressive but i ended up with a cobalt
I like Ions more for a few reasons..they look like sleepers, the quad doors, and the room in the back seat. Friend of mine owns a cobalt and the back seat is a joke. In my RL I've got the compfiest Recaro seats and a good back seat. Plus it's better on insurance. :)
@igottmituns dude the insurance thing is so good to hear, i'm in college and i'm tryin to get rid of my ss/sc for an ion level 3, love the quad doors thing it seems like it'd be very convenient.
@igottmituns i have a cobalt. and my back seat is actually pretty roomy. im 6'0 200lbs and i fit in my ack seat no problem. so idk who else you want to fit back there? i love the redlines. only reason i didnt get a redline instead of the cobalt is the dumb dash board. i hate that its off to the side. and it didnt come with a boost gauge. besides that i like them better.. but the cobalt has planety of room in the back seat. :)
Wow, your a moron...First of the front end is the Ion Coupe. If it was the sedan version the front end would be that hidious fat bumper with ugly ass grill and lights. Either way coupe or RL they are both decent cars.
of course its a redline, the ion redline and teh sc cobalt are the same car... zzp stage 3 is a more powerful performance package what is there to doubt?
Lol I know I thought this was a different vid where the balt lost. Nice kill in the balt though I hate Ion redlines. WASTE OF SPACE! lol Ok maybe i lied i dont hate it I just think that some people that own 1 NOT NAMING NAMES are loosers. Not all ion owners just 1 cause he thinks his ride can beat anything. But in reality my altima can smoke his stage 3 shit lmao.
the cars are near about identical, yea the cobalt should win its alot more power in almost the identical weighted car. IRL is around 2900 as is the cobalt
ok just to clarify to the illiterate people, or to the people who think that they are right about everything. I have an INTENSE STAGE 3, on an 07 supercharged chevy cobalt. The 07 saturn ion redline is GM STAGE 2.
Riujinzero< u r a dumb ass cobalt with intense stage 3 is totaly different with gm stage 2 go to intense-racing*com and find out lol 260hp wow yes 260 w/gm stage 3 not intense stage 3 u might want to go work in mcdonalds or go back to 1st grade tx everybody
Lets see a ion redline go against a turbo coblat thats where the redline loses, and yeah the balt may be a cavalier but who cars it looks totaly different and is a whole lot faster lol
i like both redlines and the ss... i have an 06 ss/sc. i took one redline out the other day coming home..... it was fairly fast and i took it till we slowed down at 130... mines stock and i dont know what he had on his, the same engine but different bodies...
They have the same car, same engine, same everything.. 190 hp, 2.4L ecotech engine.. why did cobalt win?? saturn didn't shift well, probably over rev... cuz both of them are at 190 hp @5400...
um u got ur carz mixd up redline and ss are 2.0 supercharged 205HP and these ones have the stage kits on but ur thinking of the cobalt ss thats a 2.4L and has 175ish hp not 190
your right, the new turbocharged cobalt SS's have 260 horse..the old supercharged ones had 205, same 205 for the ion and the same chassis as the cobalt ;)
im saying theres no way in hell cobalts can beat a 350z...and if you did, obviously the driver of the car was A. not trying or B. doesnt know how to drive.
They can, really, thats no bs. 350z's are better handling cars, but are way heavier than redlines and make similar power. (RL's make around 220 to the wheels stock, Z's are around 250)
remember its not illegal if the cops dont see you...jk, still just because you out a heavier duty turbo or cam, or piston package in your engine does not make things illegal on the streets. What makes it illegal is if the cops hear your mods, so there.
I don't know were he got his facts on the curb weight... but the saturn is lighter. Just because there's 2 more doors doesn't mean anything.. The car is made of plastic. It's like 40lbs lighter than the cobalt.
u are the stupid hes right the stage 3 for those 2 cars is not sreet legal.. also that doesnt mean he can get it.. its also ilegal street racing and everybody do it! lol!
where the hell are you getting youre information? how is the Intense stage 3 illegal? it doesnt even rate the HP over 300. get youre facts straight before you make yourself look more like an idiot online. D-Bag
This guy couldn't hang with my redline. The ion was made before Saturn sold out. My redline is pushing well over 300 horse power, with the new pullies on. I've smoked every foriegn car I've gone up against. The only one that can hang is my friends 350Z.
A stock 350Z is slower then a stock ION RedLine. I know from first hand experience. Don't call people a fucking fagget when you can't spell worth a shit.
"fagget - A misspelling of faggot, popularized by the lack of spell-checking in chatrooms. "
You dickwads DO know that the Saturn Ion is just a Chevy Cobalt rebadged right? The Ion is just...a plastic car. It's shit. Now the 2008 Chevy Cobalt SS Turbo would destroy both.
Are you stupid XD!!!! They are all GM, they are all the same engine. The Ion came first, who cares, hahaha. The more modded car won or the better driver won, which is what is supposed to happen, that's all the video really proved. Now if you want to argue the better looking of the three, than I'll go with the Saturn.
actually, the cobalt was a death trap, you'd get injured in the most minor front end collisions, the ion is a new chassis what is quite safe, then came the cobalt which is based on the ion (ion came out in 03, cobalt in 05).
sorry, the cavalier was a death trap, looks like the ion driver doesn't know how to drive if they can't keep up with a mechanically identical car.the 2L ecotec is actually a destroked 2.2L ecotec, the 2.4 is a stroked 2.2, the 2.2 debuted in 01 in the opel speedster and they altered that base engine to give us the 2 liter and later the 2.4.
ion redline was a stage 2, the colbalt was a stage 3...no wonder he fucking won..and if u guys didnt notice they have the same fucking engine and parts from Gm...learn soemthing before you talk
ion redline was a stage 2, the colbalt was a stage 3...no wonder he fucking won..and if u guys didnt notice they have the same fucking engine and parts from Gm...learn soemthing before you talk
Cobalt SS is to Ion Redline as Infiniti G35 is to Nissan 350Z... It should be neck and neck. From the factory no two cars are exactly the same. There are alot of different combinations of transmissions! :-) Look into it :-P
Both these cars are made by General Motors. Both cars have a 0-60 run time of 6.3. Both are 2 door superchargers. I think GM made these cars almost identical but with different shells.
The Saturn uses Polymar (plastic) panels and the Cobalt is metal. Saturn is a Quad coupe (2 rear doors open suicide style) and this I took from an article "when zinging the car through a set of S curves. In the slalom, the Red Line ran through the cones at 61.1 mph, certainly respectable, though that performance still trails the Cobalt SS (64.9 mph) which runs 18-inch Pirelli P Zero Rossos and weighs about 100 pounds less."
Cones? Curves? if your gonna race somone its on straight road lol. Ive beaten every colbalt ive raced with my ion. Also you cant really compare to car just by there stats. it also depends on the driver :)
They are rebuilds of the Delta platform... so they are both TECHNICALLY Cavaliers at heart. Think about it before anyone gets mad at me. Cavalier goes bye bye and out came the Cobalt/ION/G5...yeah...
How did he get 7500 anyway? My Stage 1 GM PCM flash went from 6500 stock to 7000.... How you getting over 7000? I did an aftermarket pulleyboys 2.6 pulley with a blower snout shave because the 2.6 made by another company that did not require the shave was sold out and I wanted it NOW! My boost is probably (no guage 2005) about 18 PSI and I really need a CAI and Exhaust to let this thing breath! I blew the baffles out of the stock muffler and they rattled bad. Saturn replaced for free.
aaaah cool i have ran mine up to 7000 several times and i shift right when the limiter cuts it off and grab 3rd. i was worried if i did this too much i might be doing harm, but if stage 3 is adjustable i guess 7000 should be fine. is that a GM kit or aftermarket? is that all stage 3 is?
my stage kit is not a GM stage kit. Intense and GM are completely different companies if you dont know that. I'm hitting 7500 because its tuned for that from Intense. im pushing 15lbs with a CAI and nothing else.
i eat modded SE-R, Spec-V's, Eclipeses, Honda Modded.B16GSR , B18 Type R, B20, H22a.. all with me with only a AEM Intake.. just waiting for my HP Tuner..!
nah wasnt me.. the black one with the scratch vinyl was our site admin.. but today we are having our last meet of the season.. around 40people will be there.. 30 SS SC and the reste are normal SS,LS,LT lol
frost 381... let me guess daddy bought you the bmw, do you drive anything that you bought with your own money. oh thats right. you dont havea job cause daddy pays for everything. loser
Haha only if I was. Cobalts have alot of potential but Chevy fucked them up. I'm not one of these pro-import guys cause I've owned domestics my whole life besides my Spec-V. I'm just waiting for the new Camaro to come out.
HAHAHA thats hilarious. Its funny how I can run with STi's and Daytona Charger R/Ts, but I can get walked by a spec-v with a cai. so that puts you at 180-185 hp? please, next time you open youre mouth make sure you know what youre talking about.
haha run with sti's i saw that video you cant even tell that its a car going by. but if you ever make a real video id like to see that. cause i find it real hard to believe that you can even remotely keep up with an sti. that stage 3 setup with a tune should put up somewhere around 270hp tops.stock sti is 300hp.if you did beat him he prob could drive. why don't you have a real race. my wrx puts well over 300hp and over 400lbs of torque.
duh what the fuck ever! dude you should definatley get a cobalt ss!! i had one of those cobalt ss for a rental and those things really have ssome balls
Whats this stage 2 stage 3 shit? Saturn does trims in levels 2, 3 and rdline. Thats not a red line, or else he must have mods in his cobalt because they have the same engine. It cant be a saturn ion 3 2.4 liter because saturn didnt use that engibe until 2006. 2.4 is 175 horsepower. So obviosly somethings fishy.
One thing. If you learned how to read it said the REDLINE has a GM STAGE 2 and I have INTENSE STAGE 3. Meaning the Superchargers are upgraded. and yes it was a REDLINE. Im not an idiot.
Never seen a RSX-S beat a Cobalt SS/SC unless it had a turbo setup. but mod for mod a SS/SC is gonana kill a RSX-S. Hell my LS will run side by side with a RSX-S.
Yeah make sure you're racing a ss supercharged not a ss 2.4. There is a major difference. And I'm calling bs on beating both. I beat a stock rsx-s and I was stock by 5 cars.
All I have is Exhaust and Intake. It was a Colbalt SS That RSX probably didn't Know how to drive or something was wrong with it if you beat him by 5 Cars, And are you sure it was a Type-S With a K20A2 not a K20A3. I have looked up the specs on both cars also. The only thing you beat me on is Torque. But My rev limit is 8300, Whats Yours around 5600 right, The Ion is the same.
That guy must have not known how to drive. It really matters who gets the better launch because those cars are so closely matched, Hey if you want 5 hp to the ground 15 to crank, buy a grounding kit, there not that much. like 30 or 40 bucks. Some are like 150 but those are like HKS made. Also if you have a system in your car buy a voltage regulator, It improves take off and torque in mid range rpm.
wow. i killed an rsx-s with a intake and full exhaust. i have intake and cat back on my ss/sc. dude you raced couldnt drive. i beat this punk ass v-tak driver by 3 BUS lenths
ION Redline/Cobalt SS: 205hp and a 14.5 second 1/4 mile.
I'd say it's a drivers race, but I've seen as low as a 14.2 from a STOCK ION Redline AT SEA LEVEL. The fastest STOCK RSX Type S I've seen is 14.4. They both clocked about .260 lights +/- a few hundredths each.
how do you like the kits from intense? Did you use hp tuners for tuning or did intense do it for you? I personally went with the stage 2 but might get a smaller pulley in the future.
I like it. Intense did the tune. alot of people don't trust the intense tune but it worked out for me. Not every car reacts the same to the same parts.
1st i point out...yess it is a redline... u get a quick climpe or the body kit.. i have heard the cobalt are 100 pounds lighter.... but after 3rd gear for some reason tho cbalt hav an advantage...dun kno why but most video i see...ion redline and cobalt SS... that is when the ion and cobalt start seperatin...there no such thing as a stage 4.. menber of redlineforums . com and the topic has been dicuss that there is no stage 4
Wow dumb ass if you read it say that the cobalt has stage 3 and the ion has only gm stage 2 and we all know that gm staged tunes are shit. So yes stock they are equal but from what is said is why the redline lost. I have a 06 ss/sc stage 4, with a sick tune so trust me i know what im talkin about kid. :)
They're not talking about the same company. GM Performance Parts makes a Stage I: new pulley hub, with 3" pulley and belt (as I recall); Stage II: 42.5 lp/hr injectors, 3" pulley with hub, smaller belt and 7100 rev limit (I have a GMPP Stage II); Stage III: all of Stage II plus tune that allows for up to a 75 shot of nitrous, a dual pass intercooler end plate and a void of the warranty.
yes i know their is a stage three, and even that isn't street legal. I have not seen one stage 4 though so how bout you paste a link to the type of stage four you have.
You guys are fucking stupid about racing these pussy little cars talk all cool shit about em both are junk get a real car
Mikeyt8869 3 months ago
Wrong many magazines that put the cobalt ss/SC and the ion RL head to head find that the RL is .5 sec faster
weaponzerox2 3 months ago
Stock for stock, a Cobalt SC will take an Ion SC.... So it really doesn't matter that the Ion is only stage 2 while the Cobalt is stage 3. Cobalt still pawns either way. Even with the 'same motor'.
SprSSBalt 9 months ago
come on man that's not even a Redline... lol
kywildcats84 1 year ago
wow!!! no shit ur stage 3 cobalt (2.0 supercharged) beat a stage 2 ion redline(2.0 supercharged. And you can do that all day. hmmm.... interesting. stage 3 is better than stage 2 so no shit. they both have the same motors but ur boosting higher,hmmm. why dont you race one with a stage 3 then compare. other wise you make urself look stupid. (future ion RD owner) If he used a little nitrous he would make ur stage 3 look like a stage 1 lmao Duh ta duh
scoobiewag 1 year ago
@scoobiewag This was to show the difference betwen the two different stage kits from different companies
dirtyd2005 1 year ago
@dirtyd2005 i really dont think there from different companies...technically yes saturn is saturn, chevy is chevy but they do have 2 letters in common....GM....same engine, different name, different stage performance, same company...and it sounded like you were using a turbo with that high pitch squeeling or does the SC do the same thing
Whiplash8807 1 year ago
@Whiplash8807 a turbo doesnt do a high pitch scream like that. its called a supercharger whine. turbos should never make that sound... if anything they will make a "surge" sound because of air escaping at full boost. (you hear it more on straight pipes.) and i think he was comparing the stage difference of different brands not the actual cars. because u r correct they are almost the exact same car. same motor trans and frame.. ion has a different body and isnt as stiff as the cobalt due to the
cblt2007 1 year ago
@Whiplash8807 fact that it has those "4"doors. besides that almost identicle. both fantastic cars :)
cblt2007 1 year ago
@cblt2007 ah i see. i thought the turbo had the scream...my bad..thanx for setting me straight on that
Whiplash8807 1 year ago
@scoobiewag ion is slower than cobalt regardless. everyone knows that.
madeincda 1 year ago
@madeincda i kill any cobalt that trys to race me. everytime
keatonguitar123 1 year ago
@keatonguitar123 lol r u gonna beat us with ur offroading ion? lol i have a cobalt that ill race u with any day you out in southern cali. lmao go put more rum in ur glass maybe youll believe urself still.
cblt2007 1 year ago
@cblt2007 haha yea because i fuck around i have a slow car??..makes total sense. and actully i am drinkin rum
keatonguitar123 1 year ago
@madeincda lol what are you talking about.
igottmituns 1 year ago
stage 3 vs a Stage 2?
BoomJay19 2 years ago
yeah the cobalt is a stage 3 and the ion redline is a stage 2
dirtyd2005 2 years ago
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jmreichert3 2 years ago
All day baby? Yes, you'd be my bitch all day in my Saturn Sky Turbo.. :)
holyfuckjustsignmeup 2 years ago
hey, nice backwards hat...no need for the "All day baby" quote at the end, cobalts lick my butt, I see 4 a day.
oh and igottmituns I agree with everything you wrote, keep it real.
go jays.
bigja27 2 years ago
that was my friend being a tard...... dont like that comment either. i like the look of the redlines a little more than the cobalt the front end looks more aggressive but i ended up with a cobalt
dirtyd2005 2 years ago
I like Ions more for a few reasons..they look like sleepers, the quad doors, and the room in the back seat. Friend of mine owns a cobalt and the back seat is a joke. In my RL I've got the compfiest Recaro seats and a good back seat. Plus it's better on insurance. :)
So as a college student..Ion's awesome.
igottmituns 2 years ago 12
@igottmituns dude the insurance thing is so good to hear, i'm in college and i'm tryin to get rid of my ss/sc for an ion level 3, love the quad doors thing it seems like it'd be very convenient.
bass4matt1 1 year ago
@igottmituns i have a cobalt. and my back seat is actually pretty roomy. im 6'0 200lbs and i fit in my ack seat no problem. so idk who else you want to fit back there? i love the redlines. only reason i didnt get a redline instead of the cobalt is the dumb dash board. i hate that its off to the side. and it didnt come with a boost gauge. besides that i like them better.. but the cobalt has planety of room in the back seat. :)
cblt2007 1 year ago
@cblt2007 idk ive sat in my friends cobalt, coupe, and it was so uncompfy..I had to sit in the middle to feel at rest lol
igottmituns 1 year ago
That ion is not even a redline you can tell that its a full 4door and the rims are factory ion's, dont post fake shit dick fuck
DustinTheWind2121 2 years ago 4
front end is pure quad coupe... its just how the shitty camera quality is bc a quad front end cant fit a 4dr car
DJRandySky 2 years ago
Wow, your a moron...First of the front end is the Ion Coupe. If it was the sedan version the front end would be that hidious fat bumper with ugly ass grill and lights. Either way coupe or RL they are both decent cars.
Boltz87 2 years ago
of course its a redline, the ion redline and teh sc cobalt are the same car... zzp stage 3 is a more powerful performance package what is there to doubt?
aajaro 2 years ago
its an intense stage kit not zzp. and i posted the vid because people that have stage two think that their car is the fastest car in the world
dirtyd2005 2 years ago
Is the red car the Ion, cuz it looks like a sedan and the front bumper is different from a redline? Just asking cuz the vid is kinda pixelated.
f4lsePr0phet 2 years ago 3
yes the red car is the ion and sorry for the shitty quality it was on my p.o.s. phone
dirtyd2005 2 years ago
i took an the engine out of an ion redline and put it in my sc2 lol and the sc2 is alot lighter
stvfan09 2 years ago
Lol I know I thought this was a different vid where the balt lost. Nice kill in the balt though I hate Ion redlines. WASTE OF SPACE! lol Ok maybe i lied i dont hate it I just think that some people that own 1 NOT NAMING NAMES are loosers. Not all ion owners just 1 cause he thinks his ride can beat anything. But in reality my altima can smoke his stage 3 shit lmao.
vinnieg2831 2 years ago
the cars are near about identical, yea the cobalt should win its alot more power in almost the identical weighted car. IRL is around 2900 as is the cobalt
Jyoungstang 2 years ago
they have the same power
dirtyd2005 2 years ago
ok just to clarify to the illiterate people, or to the people who think that they are right about everything. I have an INTENSE STAGE 3, on an 07 supercharged chevy cobalt. The 07 saturn ion redline is GM STAGE 2.
dirtyd2005 3 years ago
I was gonna say!
Stock it would've been dead even
seanofthedead90 2 years ago 2
Riujinzero< u r a dumb ass cobalt with intense stage 3 is totaly different with gm stage 2 go to intense-racing*com and find out lol 260hp wow yes 260 w/gm stage 3 not intense stage 3 u might want to go work in mcdonalds or go back to 1st grade tx everybody
dkendic 3 years ago
Lets see a ion redline go against a turbo coblat thats where the redline loses, and yeah the balt may be a cavalier but who cars it looks totaly different and is a whole lot faster lol
vinnieg2831 3 years ago
the ion still lost buddy.....
dirtyd2005 3 years ago
i like both redlines and the ss... i have an 06 ss/sc. i took one redline out the other day coming home..... it was fairly fast and i took it till we slowed down at 130... mines stock and i dont know what he had on his, the same engine but different bodies...
fre3k01 3 years ago
i test drove both the SS and redline, and bought the redline because:
1. identical under the hood ('05)
2. redlines look sweeter by a longshot (mines black)
3. the SS interior sucked compared to the redlines.
only thing that pisses me off is the sucky stereo system, i added 2-tens in the back but didnt help much.
One system i was VERY impressed with was the scion Tc, i almost bought that but didnt because it wasnt fast enough.
mkdaddy03 3 years ago
They have the same car, same engine, same everything.. 190 hp, 2.4L ecotech engine.. why did cobalt win?? saturn didn't shift well, probably over rev... cuz both of them are at 190 hp @5400...
tinaistina 3 years ago
they both were 2.0l
dirtyd2005 3 years ago
could be.. my bad.. cuz i have a 2006 redline and its a 2.4L
tinaistina 3 years ago
There is absolutely no such thing as a 2.4 Redline. Don't even argue. If you put a Redline badge on your Ion 3 take it off.
redlinedsaturn 3 years ago 4
2.0l s/c are the only supercharged motors gm put into both them cars
boo1086 3 years ago 2
The LSJ is a 2.0L TURBO motor from the Saab 9 3 with a supercharger instead of a turbo.
cobaltssinasuit 3 years ago
well then its not a redline.
brandongbmx1 3 years ago
actually 205hp.
nflstreet2man 3 years ago 3
um u got ur carz mixd up redline and ss are 2.0 supercharged 205HP and these ones have the stage kits on but ur thinking of the cobalt ss thats a 2.4L and has 175ish hp not 190
xindabox360 3 years ago
I work at a chevy dealer...the cobalt SS has 260hp...not 175ish
Riujinzero 3 years ago
your right, the new turbocharged cobalt SS's have 260 horse..the old supercharged ones had 205, same 205 for the ion and the same chassis as the cobalt ;)
yoyoappled 2 years ago 2
im saying theres no way in hell cobalts can beat a 350z...and if you did, obviously the driver of the car was A. not trying or B. doesnt know how to drive.
Snakes709 3 years ago
They can, really, thats no bs. 350z's are better handling cars, but are way heavier than redlines and make similar power. (RL's make around 220 to the wheels stock, Z's are around 250)
disbsam333 3 years ago
remember its not illegal if the cops dont see you...jk, still just because you out a heavier duty turbo or cam, or piston package in your engine does not make things illegal on the streets. What makes it illegal is if the cops hear your mods, so there.
plzplz12232 3 years ago
I don't know were he got his facts on the curb weight... but the saturn is lighter. Just because there's 2 more doors doesn't mean anything.. The car is made of plastic. It's like 40lbs lighter than the cobalt.
puffy514 3 years ago
stage 3 is not even street legal so i highly doubt you were able to get it lol
Emacoman 3 years ago
how stupid are you?
dirtyd2005 3 years ago
what do you mean
Emacoman 3 years ago
u are the stupid hes right the stage 3 for those 2 cars is not sreet legal.. also that doesnt mean he can get it.. its also ilegal street racing and everybody do it! lol!
Cveega 3 years ago
where the hell are you getting youre information? how is the Intense stage 3 illegal? it doesnt even rate the HP over 300. get youre facts straight before you make yourself look more like an idiot online. D-Bag
dirtyd2005 3 years ago
the saturn wasnt racing.
wwwCapnMagiccom 3 years ago
This guy couldn't hang with my redline. The ion was made before Saturn sold out. My redline is pushing well over 300 horse power, with the new pullies on. I've smoked every foriegn car I've gone up against. The only one that can hang is my friends 350Z.
Sredline04 3 years ago
man you got to be joking my cobalt will kill a 350Z
cijqwe2 3 years ago
i have a cobalt ss/sc...love cobats. But i call bs on that one
Snakes709 3 years ago
hey what the hell are you calling bs on this guys ride or my ride cuz your comment came to my page
cijqwe2 3 years ago
theres no way in fuckin hell a redline could beat a 350z.your a fucking fagget with an american piece of shit.that beast will eat you.
nflstreet2man 3 years ago
A stock 350Z is slower then a stock ION RedLine. I know from first hand experience. Don't call people a fucking fagget when you can't spell worth a shit.
"fagget - A misspelling of faggot, popularized by the lack of spell-checking in chatrooms. "
joshg678 3 years ago
300 hp with a pully? Yeah right. 2.8 pully, 60lb injectors, full exhaust, meth, and a good tune will barely get you that.
synmox 3 years ago
where did you hear 300 hp anwhere?
dirtyd2005 3 years ago
Another member said he got 300 with a pully, it wasn't you though.
synmox 3 years ago
oh ok!
dirtyd2005 3 years ago
from the factory with all the gm upgrades it can produce near 280.....
centennialco01 3 years ago
All GM upgrades or the stage kits? Because with Stage 2 you're more around 270 bhp.
synmox 3 years ago
actully the ion came before the cobalt
actionblackson66 3 years ago
Actually the GM stage 2 increases the rev limiter to 7200rpm
johnsrallyyellowss 3 years ago
How did he get 7500 anyway? << maybe tuned with hp tunners. it will let u change the rev limiter to what you want
ssmrico 3 years ago
You dickwads DO know that the Saturn Ion is just a Chevy Cobalt rebadged right? The Ion is just...a plastic car. It's shit. Now the 2008 Chevy Cobalt SS Turbo would destroy both.
hotmail808 3 years ago
u suck! the COBALT its a rebadged Saturn ion.. the ion came first.. the cobalt and the g5 came from the ion u retard!
Cveega 3 years ago
Are you stupid XD!!!! They are all GM, they are all the same engine. The Ion came first, who cares, hahaha. The more modded car won or the better driver won, which is what is supposed to happen, that's all the video really proved. Now if you want to argue the better looking of the three, than I'll go with the Saturn.
silfocus84 3 years ago
BUT THEY ALL CAME FROM THE CAVALIER...
cobaltssinasuit 3 years ago
actually, the cobalt was a death trap, you'd get injured in the most minor front end collisions, the ion is a new chassis what is quite safe, then came the cobalt which is based on the ion (ion came out in 03, cobalt in 05).
adamjlesandrini 3 years ago
sorry, the cavalier was a death trap, looks like the ion driver doesn't know how to drive if they can't keep up with a mechanically identical car.the 2L ecotec is actually a destroked 2.2L ecotec, the 2.4 is a stroked 2.2, the 2.2 debuted in 01 in the opel speedster and they altered that base engine to give us the 2 liter and later the 2.4.
adamjlesandrini 3 years ago
sexyest sounding race ever... except for maybe a supercharged vr6 race.
FDNY101202 4 years ago
ion redline was a stage 2, the colbalt was a stage 3...no wonder he fucking won..and if u guys didnt notice they have the same fucking engine and parts from Gm...learn soemthing before you talk
8Sniper8 4 years ago
ion redline was a stage 2, the colbalt was a stage 3...no wonder he fucking won..and if u guys didnt notice they have the same fucking engine and parts from Gm...learn soemthing before you talk
8Sniper8 4 years ago
I love Cobalts. Own a 2.4L SS myself. But that dumbass comment at the end was just unnecessary. "All day baby!". What a douche.
bigcbizzle 4 years ago
Cobalt SS is to Ion Redline as Infiniti G35 is to Nissan 350Z... It should be neck and neck. From the factory no two cars are exactly the same. There are alot of different combinations of transmissions! :-) Look into it :-P
GI700 4 years ago
Actually the Saturn is lighter so it will win every time if the drivers are the same
ANED4SPD 4 years ago
lol look up the stats the cobalt is .2 seconds faster in 0-60 so to get down to the nitty gritty the cobalt SHOULD be faster
94EglVisionTSI 4 years ago
Cobalt SS
Curb Weight: 2806 lbs.
Saturn Ion Redline
Manufacturer Curb Weight (lb): 2933
Rawtrucker 4 years ago
almost... my 06 cobalt weights 2960 dry weight!
boo1086 3 years ago
They are the same car. That's what makes it a fun race. I wouldn't have gone with the Intense Stage 3 though.
demy1569 4 years ago
Both these cars are made by General Motors. Both cars have a 0-60 run time of 6.3. Both are 2 door superchargers. I think GM made these cars almost identical but with different shells.
iTurboSrt4 4 years ago
they actually are the same car just different bodies. its retarded.
dirtyd2005 4 years ago
The Saturn uses Polymar (plastic) panels and the Cobalt is metal. Saturn is a Quad coupe (2 rear doors open suicide style) and this I took from an article "when zinging the car through a set of S curves. In the slalom, the Red Line ran through the cones at 61.1 mph, certainly respectable, though that performance still trails the Cobalt SS (64.9 mph) which runs 18-inch Pirelli P Zero Rossos and weighs about 100 pounds less."
Rawtrucker 4 years ago
Cones? Curves? if your gonna race somone its on straight road lol. Ive beaten every colbalt ive raced with my ion. Also you cant really compare to car just by there stats. it also depends on the driver :)
irishlover87 4 years ago
im more with the ion but the ion its a "quad coupe" so the 2 suicide doors makes it a little heavier!
Cveega 3 years ago
They are rebuilds of the Delta platform... so they are both TECHNICALLY Cavaliers at heart. Think about it before anyone gets mad at me. Cavalier goes bye bye and out came the Cobalt/ION/G5...yeah...
cobaltssinasuit 3 years ago
dirtyd2005...
about your redlining at 7500.. you should trow it back down to at least 7100Rpm.. since the spring and valve tend to brake over 7300Rpm..
just warning you.. HP Tuner is your friend.. if you have it or know someone..
r0k088 4 years ago
How did he get 7500 anyway? My Stage 1 GM PCM flash went from 6500 stock to 7000.... How you getting over 7000? I did an aftermarket pulleyboys 2.6 pulley with a blower snout shave because the 2.6 made by another company that did not require the shave was sold out and I wanted it NOW! My boost is probably (no guage 2005) about 18 PSI and I really need a CAI and Exhaust to let this thing breath! I blew the baffles out of the stock muffler and they rattled bad. Saturn replaced for free.
Rawtrucker 4 years ago
stage 3 = adjustable rpm limiter
mdaize 4 years ago
aaaah cool i have ran mine up to 7000 several times and i shift right when the limiter cuts it off and grab 3rd. i was worried if i did this too much i might be doing harm, but if stage 3 is adjustable i guess 7000 should be fine. is that a GM kit or aftermarket? is that all stage 3 is?
Rawtrucker 3 years ago
ur right!
Cveega 3 years ago
my stage kit is not a GM stage kit. Intense and GM are completely different companies if you dont know that. I'm hitting 7500 because its tuned for that from Intense. im pushing 15lbs with a CAI and nothing else.
dirtyd2005 3 years ago
i eat modded SE-R, Spec-V's, Eclipeses, Honda Modded.B16GSR , B18 Type R, B20, H22a.. all with me with only a AEM Intake.. just waiting for my HP Tuner..!
r0k088 4 years ago
You talk like you are from france or queeeebec? is that true?
PeriodicSC 4 years ago
if your talking about me yeah i'm from the Quebec Region
r0k088 4 years ago
I could tell by how the words you typed. Were you at Sport Compact Performance in Montreal by anychance, there were two nice cobalts there?
PeriodicSC 4 years ago
nah wasnt me.. the black one with the scratch vinyl was our site admin.. but today we are having our last meet of the season.. around 40people will be there.. 30 SS SC and the reste are normal SS,LS,LT lol
r0k088 4 years ago
frost 381... let me guess daddy bought you the bmw, do you drive anything that you bought with your own money. oh thats right. you dont havea job cause daddy pays for everything. loser
bigorangetrucker 4 years ago
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well ill take my Porsche 911 turbo and ram it up all your asses hahaha... well its my dads but i got a Z3 supercharged
frost381 4 years ago
ZOMG... Shut up kid.
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stevoK20 4 years ago
that was a good race props to ion for keeping up with that cobalt
samx109 4 years ago
i'm pretty sure you have no clue what you are talkin about
apersaud88 4 years ago
Cobalts are cool but slow. My Sentra Spec-V destroys those and all I got done to it right now is cold air.
GnarKills435 4 years ago
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA. great joke post!
chevysalesman614 4 years ago
Haha only if I was. Cobalts have alot of potential but Chevy fucked them up. I'm not one of these pro-import guys cause I've owned domestics my whole life besides my Spec-V. I'm just waiting for the new Camaro to come out.
GnarKills435 4 years ago
thats halarious dude ......... my brother has a spec v and i murder him every time i drive a cobalt s/c
kinetichero 4 years ago 2
HAHAHA thats hilarious. Its funny how I can run with STi's and Daytona Charger R/Ts, but I can get walked by a spec-v with a cai. so that puts you at 180-185 hp? please, next time you open youre mouth make sure you know what youre talking about.
dirtyd2005 4 years ago
haha run with sti's i saw that video you cant even tell that its a car going by. but if you ever make a real video id like to see that. cause i find it real hard to believe that you can even remotely keep up with an sti. that stage 3 setup with a tune should put up somewhere around 270hp tops.stock sti is 300hp.if you did beat him he prob could drive. why don't you have a real race. my wrx puts well over 300hp and over 400lbs of torque.
BFin26 4 years ago
ha your sentra cant touch either of those cars. funny though. Gave me a chuckle.
vtecrider123 4 years ago
duh what the fuck ever! dude you should definatley get a cobalt ss!! i had one of those cobalt ss for a rental and those things really have ssome balls
ztc347 4 years ago
my 2 favorite cars are a 08 turbo cobaltss and a 06 spec v so idk which one to get.
nflstreet2man 3 years ago
Whats this stage 2 stage 3 shit? Saturn does trims in levels 2, 3 and rdline. Thats not a red line, or else he must have mods in his cobalt because they have the same engine. It cant be a saturn ion 3 2.4 liter because saturn didnt use that engibe until 2006. 2.4 is 175 horsepower. So obviosly somethings fishy.
SkaBurst22 4 years ago
obviously, you shouldn't post. gm stage 2 is a power upgrade. (41whp). intense is an aftermarket company making similar kits.
chevysalesman614 4 years ago
One thing. If you learned how to read it said the REDLINE has a GM STAGE 2 and I have INTENSE STAGE 3. Meaning the Superchargers are upgraded. and yes it was a REDLINE. Im not an idiot.
dirtyd2005 4 years ago
wow.... seriously brush up on your aftermarket knowledge a bit
Callmecorduroy 3 years ago
Never seen a RSX-S beat a Cobalt SS/SC unless it had a turbo setup. but mod for mod a SS/SC is gonana kill a RSX-S. Hell my LS will run side by side with a RSX-S.
07BlackCobaltLS 4 years ago
cobalt ss/sc are awsome.. it just sucks that they stoped production on them...luckly i bought one before it was too late...
505zombie 4 years ago
I know now they are limited. Resale on them is going to go up.
dirtyd2005 4 years ago
Both are slow to begin with. My RSX kills both stock. and my Rsx is stock. I met up with a Redline yesterday though that tore me up.
slutslash 4 years ago
Yeah make sure you're racing a ss supercharged not a ss 2.4. There is a major difference. And I'm calling bs on beating both. I beat a stock rsx-s and I was stock by 5 cars.
dirtyd2005 4 years ago
All I have is Exhaust and Intake. It was a Colbalt SS That RSX probably didn't Know how to drive or something was wrong with it if you beat him by 5 Cars, And are you sure it was a Type-S With a K20A2 not a K20A3. I have looked up the specs on both cars also. The only thing you beat me on is Torque. But My rev limit is 8300, Whats Yours around 5600 right, The Ion is the same.
slutslash 4 years ago
no mine is at 7500. yes it was a type-s with a k20a2.
dirtyd2005 4 years ago
That guy must have not known how to drive. It really matters who gets the better launch because those cars are so closely matched, Hey if you want 5 hp to the ground 15 to crank, buy a grounding kit, there not that much. like 30 or 40 bucks. Some are like 150 but those are like HKS made. Also if you have a system in your car buy a voltage regulator, It improves take off and torque in mid range rpm.
slutslash 4 years ago
and it was probably just as slow as that stage 2 redline in the video. (just to put it in perspective how slow you are compared to my cobalt . lol
chevysalesman614 4 years ago
wow. i killed an rsx-s with a intake and full exhaust. i have intake and cat back on my ss/sc. dude you raced couldnt drive. i beat this punk ass v-tak driver by 3 BUS lenths
rickrola 4 years ago
RSX Type S: 200hp and a 14.6 second 1/4 mile.
ION Redline/Cobalt SS: 205hp and a 14.5 second 1/4 mile.
I'd say it's a drivers race, but I've seen as low as a 14.2 from a STOCK ION Redline AT SEA LEVEL. The fastest STOCK RSX Type S I've seen is 14.4. They both clocked about .260 lights +/- a few hundredths each.
cobaltssinasuit 3 years ago
do you think that if i got the stage two but went with the 2.8 pulley plus the 60 lb injectors should run rather well no?
05redline 4 years ago
how do you like the kits from intense? Did you use hp tuners for tuning or did intense do it for you? I personally went with the stage 2 but might get a smaller pulley in the future.
05redline 4 years ago
I like it. Intense did the tune. alot of people don't trust the intense tune but it worked out for me. Not every car reacts the same to the same parts.
dirtyd2005 4 years ago
Hmmm, I remember watching Car and Driver and the Saturn ION Redline beat it in every performance test, albeit not by much.
Tanner874 4 years ago
the redline is a decent "budget" racer, while the SS is a kick ass tuner!
MrSmileyAss 4 years ago
saturns are gay always have been always will. . .
jrjangles16 4 years ago
Youre the one that gay !! saturn and chevy is made from the same compagnie so why dont you can it dumbass
master433 4 years ago
here is a link for stage 1-6 kits. learn your car before you act like you know what your talking about
cobalt-addiction dot
com
bizkitkorn 4 years ago
for all of you who don't know what the hell your talking about...that there isn't a stage 4 and 5 blah blah blah.
Heres the proof
INTENSE LSJ Stage 4 Performance Package
Code:LSJ-Stage4
Price: $659.99
INTENSE LSJ Stage 5 Performance Package
Code:LSJ-Stage5
Price: $999.99
bizkitkorn 4 years ago
saturn redline is way better than a cobalt ss ! in style and performance! go saturn
master433 4 years ago
I have to agree with you, although I wouldn't say its way better.
Tanner874 4 years ago
and if they do make a stage 4 or 5 then it is not from GM
bayareabest05 4 years ago
1st i point out...yess it is a redline... u get a quick climpe or the body kit.. i have heard the cobalt are 100 pounds lighter.... but after 3rd gear for some reason tho cbalt hav an advantage...dun kno why but most video i see...ion redline and cobalt SS... that is when the ion and cobalt start seperatin...there no such thing as a stage 4.. menber of redlineforums . com and the topic has been dicuss that there is no stage 4
bayareabest05 4 years ago
ION Redline: 4.04 Final drive ratio.
Cobalt SS: 4.05 Final drive Ratio.
I've raced my ION(when it was stock) against stock SS's and it's pretty much a driver's race. I'd say the ION missed a gear.
ZZPerformance: Stage kits 1-4
INTENSE-Racing: Stage kits 1-5
GM Performance: Stage kits 1-3
cobaltssinasuit 3 years ago
Yeah I'm not going to know what I race and what it has in it. I know the guy I looked at his engine, and yes they do make stage 4 and 5 on intense.
dirtyd2005 4 years ago
Wow dumb ass if you read it say that the cobalt has stage 3 and the ion has only gm stage 2 and we all know that gm staged tunes are shit. So yes stock they are equal but from what is said is why the redline lost. I have a 06 ss/sc stage 4, with a sick tune so trust me i know what im talkin about kid. :)
gwood82 4 years ago
im pretty sure they dont make a stage four....
vtecrider123 4 years ago
Ya the Stg3 is the highest that you can get.
seth3580 4 years ago
They're not talking about the same company. GM Performance Parts makes a Stage I: new pulley hub, with 3" pulley and belt (as I recall); Stage II: 42.5 lp/hr injectors, 3" pulley with hub, smaller belt and 7100 rev limit (I have a GMPP Stage II); Stage III: all of Stage II plus tune that allows for up to a 75 shot of nitrous, a dual pass intercooler end plate and a void of the warranty.
cmiles1985 4 years ago
Intense Racing makes kits that range from Stage I through Stage V. I'm not familiar with what each kit has, as I'm not a fan of their tunes.
cmiles1985 4 years ago
yes i know their is a stage three, and even that isn't street legal. I have not seen one stage 4 though so how bout you paste a link to the type of stage four you have.
vtecrider123 4 years ago
with shifting that bad, you had to be racing a sport appearence Ion 2.4 l....
stock for stock the IRL is equal, except ion rl's have 17's, (advantange) and are lighter.
silverredline04 4 years ago