This guy plays sloppy. Hitting too many off keys by accident. sounds like my 6yr old banging away at the ivory. I like it clean like Beethovan's style. But hey music tastes are subjective no?
@komjong If you want it clean like Beethoven you should listen to Beethoven... No offense, but trust me, every composition of master like Stravinsky has his historical, social background... This piece by its STYLE of playing is neoclassical and actually very sarcastic in its music language, and that is exactly what he wanted to achieve... :) ... Before listening to any piece, it is very good to read something from compositors life and style of that period... Than it is understandable ;)
I think that comercial music is not art, its just for money, and thats not the propuse of music or any art.
Im 15 years old and i can asure you that i know more about music than justin bibier, i mean, i easly could write one song like the ones he write (i dont know if he writes them couse a lot of comercial singers pay to other guys to write their songs) and if a professional musician look into one of justin´s songs he could give you thousands of reasons why is that crap music.
@aortz Even if justin bieber writes crap music, they don't have to bash him. He's not like claiming himself to be the best and degrading musicians better than himself, but just writing his own music. If you're unsatisfied with lots of fanatic bieber fans, just get over it cuz they won't stop you from your own favor of music and nobody forces you to think he's good, otherwise bashing him does nothing but serves to make yourself feel better as RedforKing said. I'm saying to all pointless haters.
The story goes that once Gershwin went to Stravinsky and asked him for composition lessons. Stravinsky asked him how much money he had made the last year. When Gershwin told him, he replied "It is I who should take lessons from you!"
"WHENEVER George Gershwin met a famous composer, so the stories go, he would ask for lessons. He is said to have requested them from Varèse, Schoenberg, Bloch, and Toch, among others, but the two legendary responses are attributed to Ravel and Stravinsky."
@robtrodes It was in fact Stravinsky that Gershwin was supposed to have approached and received that response although Gerswhin was not adverse to good anecdotal material being circulated about himself. Like most artists of his calibre he had a huge ego. Gershwin is on record denying the story. He did however meet Ravel on another occasion and was turned down on the grounds that he was "batter off a first class Gershwin than a second class Ravel". That again was Gershwin's version.
im in 6th grade and I listen to this. I can't stand all the crap on the radio Justin Beiber sucks so does all that rap its just about sex, money, and drugs. this is real music i wish kids my age would stop listen to all the crap on the radio
@GrandWizad There is music beyond what you hear on the radio: Jimi Hendrix, Bessie Smith, Charles Mingus, Led Zepplin, The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, The Smiths, Joy Division.....it goes on (and not all rap is about sex), you just need to search harder for good music.
Sounds good - I think Bach and Stravinsky are the only composers whose music is admirably suited for the reproducing piano roll. Oh, and Nancarrow - but that's another matter.
@TheInboil Actually not Nancarrow - his compositions just thrive on the worst aspects of the player piano, but there we are, music is in the ear of the beholder.
It must do the same to many other people, seeing how angry/upset/jerkish so many people are in the comments. This is why I like Beethoven.. Stravinsky is like this totally calm guy who says things that drive you insane... whereas Beethoven goes on this emotional roller coaster for you, and takes you with him. xD
People who try to bring down other people's music must have really low self esteem. Seriously what do you guys who post comments like " 13 Bieber fans" try to achieve with it? To make yourself feel better because you believe your better than someone else because of the music you listen to?
@superkulmedkniv25 Stupid anti-Bieber shit is for immature 16 year olds who are jealous. I expect listeners of Stravinsky to be more cultivated than that. Why not discuss, for example, Stravinsky?
@superkulmedkniv25 Thanks a lot mate! Yes, I didn't quite get your sarcasm, because I have read through too many non-comments of this kind that definitely weren't sarcastic. And yes, it occurs with classical music videos too. Sadly.
@RediForKing it could also be that they simply dont like the music and criticize at any chance out of disrespect and hate, to rid the burden of hate that that music brought to their ears. though im sure some people do do it out of low self esteem.
the steady staccatos and the dynamic rhythm that come with it makes it almost sound like jazz; and at the same time some people may think of JS Bach, due to the opposite movement of an ongoing melody line and the base line.
surely then it's not a matter of dexterity but of interpretation...i admit, i cannot judge, but i assume the situation is similar to my response when i heard T.s.Eliot reading his Four Quartets.. it sounded to monotone, so leveled. and yet, that was the author himself and that was his rendition of his work. there must have been a reason for that style of delivery.
( if you care to listen it's posted here on youtube.)
@ellipsis000 ? Dude, you can't tell there is something wrong with the tempo of some notes? & the several offkey notes that are made like 10-15 times in the piece? o_O Umm, well this is awkward.
@ellipsis000 don't get me wrong the piece is for the most part played correctly. however, the speed of the notes, as well as the timings they should fit into, are definite. & it is definite that notes are misplaced or off. The reality is that a piece may become too complicated and fast for a human hand to play, and I believe this piece is a beginning example of this.
The music of today is alright and a full orchestra is wonderful to hear, but there is just something about a single piano that just makes one feel wonderful even if there is no reason to feel happy at all. The power of music in my opinion is best shown in the passion of a solo piece.
20th Century Classical is my favorite music, but I've never liked Stravinsky (Straweenie) He was obviously brilliant, but I've always found his music annoying-it strikes me as shallow and devoid of any real sentiment. He was a salesman-selling a quirky modernist aesthetic that people who digged cubism would like. His neo-classical approach was feigned-He really was just a Dadaist. It says a lot about him that he adopted the dodecaphonic system after Schoenberg's death.
@Neongrapes Interesting view, but I always found sentiment in Stravinsky, indeed more hidden like in every modern form. Even Debussy can feel like shallow and empty, referring to the less 'minuetic' works. I believe that moderns aesthetic only requires a different extrapolation of sentiment...
@TheRiteOfWinter Well I've always been an "hysteric" -For Russians, my favorites are Scriabin and Shostakovich-music of nerves, neuroticism, melodrama-Stravinsky was well aware of Scriabin's music, and his neo-classicism is in part a reaction to the hyper-romantic mysticism of Scriabin. This notion seems strange to people today, but in the teens Scriabin was very much in the air and considered the leader of the Russian avant-garde before his untimely death.
@TheRiteOfWinter Oddly enough I like Stravinsky's neo-classical works for some of the same reasons I enjoy Brahms. Despite the obvious stylistic differences, both have a detached quality, a preoccupation with form and process, but there is a very real undercurrent of emotion that exists. This, in my ears at least, creates an impression of earnest, self-aware emotion, in contrast to the histrionics of many of the romantics, or for that matter, many of the moderns.
@Neongrapes He adopted Webern's dodecaphonic system after Webern's death. Stylistically and systematically, the two had a very different idea of what dodecaphony was. Schoenberg used open or traditional forms for the bulk of his works, but Webern's system was all encompassing, and the bulk of his works were determined by his row charts before the pen ever touched the score paper. STravinsky began to study it in the late 40s, but since, since texts at the time were often wrong, it took awhile.
@cnmaster01 And who's system did Webern adopt? hmmmm. Schoenberg was the catalyst. I like Webern, I like his pointillism. Straweenie just always made fun of Schoonyburger....and then to do serialism, regardless of the minute differences, after criticizing it for so many years???? Igor was brilliant, i just don't care for it in general. I like Symphony in 3 mvts, and the piano concerto, other than that....the Symphony of Psalms i just think is awkward orchestration and Sacre....blahh zahh
@Neongrapes I wouldn't call the differences minute, but that's a different debate. I'll concede that the Psalms are grossly overated, and Sacre has been done beyond death. but stravinsky never came across to me as an opponent of Schoenberg. He was in love with Periot Lunaire, and if I recall, his Japanese lyrics were if not dedicated to, a tribute to him. he referred to dodecaphony as "an alien language" which coming from a man whose language scholars have yet to decode sounds like a compliment
@cnmaster01 he was urged to do so by Robert Craft. I don't know the specific's but I imagine that Craft appealed to Stravinsky's contrarian nature with some sort of 'why not'... I think it's naive to assume that the differences between Stravinsky and Webern's serial output can be chalked up to Stravinsky's not having the correct instructions.
@caseyandtim Certainly. I think that, had he studied with Webern personally, there would still be just as many differences, Stravinsky is still Stravinsky after all, but I doubt his serial output would've been what it was. This is of course pointless speculation, but it sure is fun.
Stravinsky, in my humble opinion, shows much more musical originality and stylistic diversity than anyone on that top list. I'd much rather pay to see his Symphony of Psalms than Beethoven's Ninth. Stravinsky takes a bit of adjusting, but once accustomed, his music is addicting. However, you cant compare zebras to cows to kangaroos. Ranking great musicians is futile.
After listening to some modern recordings (including his son Soulima), this recording sounds so fresh and vibrant. How is it possible that this was recorded in 1924? It almost sounds like it could have been done yesterday. And there is no better performer of his music - so many colors and details that aren't on the printed page.
@sonarrat I think the deal is that Stravinsky cut a piano roll, and then the player piano was recorded much more recently, hence the modern recording sound.
He lacks the geometry Chopin Beethoven Liszt and Mozart had. This sounds like improv music, I can do that easily...building patterns that sound good is way harder.
@PrincessDesert - I personally like the more randomness. I can hear it over and over and still hear new things, doesnt get old. the randomness isnt random at all, it fits very well and brings great mood, lots of artists truly are random though. The greats bring images/moods/textures. but only if you can relate, Musicians/technical people probably are bigger fans. Its much harder to memorize and play the random technical stuff that doesn't repeat as often, its a challenge, and a risk musically
@PrincessDesert chopin and liszt both designed their music ENTIRELY to sound improvised, and to a far lesser extent so did Beethoven, meanwhile Mozart becomes dull after a few minutes. as for the geometry goes, those guys were still running on Euclid. now what doesn't sound good about this?
@cnmaster01 according to Anthony Tommasini (some professional wrote for the New York times) the greatest classical composers of all time are, from best to 10th best 1-Bach 2-Beethoven 3-Mozart 4-Schubert 5-Debussy 6-STRAVINSKY 7-Brahms 8-Verdi 9-Wagner 10-Bartok so that's why I came to check Stravinsky out, cuz I don't know anything about him, however, I don't enjoy him that much, especially compared to Chopin&Liszt Can anyone point me in the right direction, what are Stravinsky's best pieces?
@PrincessDesert Stravinsky's music, here in particular in general is in a completely different language than those two. I couldn't give you his best pieces, but i'll give you some works you might appreciate: The Italian Cello suite, les cinq doits, the easy pieces for piano, and the finale from the firebird are a great place to start then Petrushka and the full firebird suite maybe even Oedipus Rex. then the Woodwind octet and finally the rites of spring make it down the list then come back =)
@PrincessDesert Well that's just stupid why would anyone do that...... Bach is baroque, Mozart And Beethoven are classical Beethoven is a bit romantic as well he is very different from most actually, and Debussy Stravinsky Wagner and Bartok are 20th century music wtf? top classical composers bull shit they are all so different and all are so amazing and astounding in their own way and that is the same for everyone, every person has something to bring to the table.
@PrincessDesert what you dont hear in this piece so much is his use of ostinati, patterning, and asymmetric rhythmical accentuation. Listen to Symphony of Psalms, and notice the tempo and performance length of each movement. First movement notice the intro how it moves further and further into Eflat and the minor second mvt in the chorus. Also notice the ostinato w/ the voices as a minor 3rd two semitones apart. This becomes the fugue subject in the 2nd mvt. The third mvt is beautiful.
i don't really like music from the Classical period (although some Mozart and Haydn and others are cool) but Stravinsky's Neo-Classicism becomes really memorable to me...why??? Rhetorical question.
Ardie83, dissonance, polyrythm, and 12 tonality technique are causing the weird feelings that you experience, I am currently writing a piece involving all these effects, and it is giving me those mixed feelings.
this is so economic and austere; at the same time it's so passionate and flat out beautiful.....civilized and inspirational, wild and free, angular yet unrestricted, thoughtful, subtle and haunting...and fun.
@predoje Agree! Before reading your comment I was gonna write that there seems to be a Bach melody suddenly underneath, suddenly over 'the other sounds'.
@gonrolgonrol maybe hes using baroque to inject some old good times in music that is under influence of wars and human madnes of modern age...I meen its obvious that that generations of composers were under big inluence of globalisation but come on, that i think is not so bad...
@predoje That is an understatement! It is as obviously Stravinsky´s modern interpretation of Bach, as was Tippett's of Corelli (Fantasia Concertante). The dotted rythms of the opening theme of Apollon Musagete are also clearly based on Baroque dynamics. The 20s were an age of the rediscovery and reinvention of classicism (for art, cf Leger and purism) (perhaps in reaction to the nightmare of the 1st World War? Order after chaos),..again in the 50s (French Theatre, eg Cocteau; Stravinsky again)
@marcusleprince oh..and I forgot, Picasso of course, thoroughly obsessed with (neo-) classicism...over the same period, after that initial purely intellectual exercise that was Cubism.
@marcusleprince its interesting to compare old time where life was worst then now (in evry aspects) even so there was no wars suck world war... And compositions was and are from that time (17,18,19 century) most beutifull... It has clear melody and are more closer to us than music from 20. century... This is strange if we connect music with wars...and cataclism ..
@predoje However I really think that war prior to the mid/late 19th century did not have the psychological effect it had on those who suffered in the American Civil War and the WW 1-2. In fact composers regularly lauded war and sovereigns involved. War was a 'gentlemanly' affair..of course they did not experience the horrors of being on ship during Trafalgar! But reality, through the camera, did hit everyone first with the Crimean War and of course the American Civil War.
@predoje ....The scale and overall effects on volunteers and then conscripts of WW 1-2, many of whom included artists, some even initially excited, then horrified at the reality. We do not hear of creative 'intellectuals' taking part and witnessing warfare directly until the 20thC, surely. Nor were artists actively 'political' until the mid 19thC (with some exceptions, eg Goya). Not to confuse that with 'nationalism' of which there were too many refs in music and art in the 19thC.
aaa what a stress reliever....here at work...had a tough long day...came upon stravinsky's name by accident today and am glad i decided to search for him. this is great & hit the spot for me. thx for sharing
Considering music that had been composed during/before Stravinsky's time, I think I would have felt a natural incline to explore how to bring different perspectives of what defined a musical form into a composition, compelled to have a glimpse of how big this universe is, and to see if a mind can recognize this in the whole picture, with al the assumptions that one has taken before with tone, tempo, phrasing and harmony. The same compulsion that proved the earth's round when it was thought flat
Stravinsky like Picasso changes every time of language, here a "Neo barroque" style, wow. Genius, genius, russian, french, american, citizen of modern world..
@Lukrith Analyzing is a perfectly valid way to gain enjoyment from music. Much of the greatest enjoyment comes from understanding; this is the joy of scholarship. Part of what music can "do to you" is teach and enlighten. To say that music must be approached only "intuitively", i.e. without the application of thought, is the truly sad prospect.
Though I strongly agree with your opinion on music I m not able yet to analyze this insane work,or any other composition of this great mastermind..Does that mean that i can not understand what I like about this piece?My opinion is that since you re hearing this you ve come to the conclusion that there is truly hope for the future..Cheers from Greece..
I agree with you, however you phrased it so pretentiously that I do hope we never meet in the physical world or I should have to tear your fingers off, pull out your tongue, lame your knees and subject you to Burzum's "Feeble Screams From Forests Unknown" for long hours henceforth.
@oystermind Its annoying, but there are so so many people in youtube that swear that music has everything to do EXCEPT with understanding, study, and analysis.
@oystermind beauty is out of understanding but it's true, analysing can give you good kinds of perceptions, but I think something extremply complex and interesting can be extremly boring at the same time like a some pieces of bach, it doesn't mean it's not good but there is a part of magic in music, a simple thing that gives you chill at the first listening, simple but truely true :)
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He was not the most educated musician of his time. He didn't even have that much formal music training. Mozart and Beethoven were better trained and both of their respective musical accomplishments were far greater than Stravinksy's.
Depends on your perspective. If you believe Debussy ushered in the Modern era (a camp I fall into), then he wouldn't be on their level probably. However, if you think Stravinsky pulled the Romantics kicking and screaming into the 20th century, he's easily on their level.
He did have a significant amount of training in counterpoint and orchestration as well. He said he found harmony boring, but the study of harmony in it's modern form wasn't practiced by Mozart or Beethoven either.
@santom21 he was not inspired by jazz because jazz in 1924 didn't sound like it sounded 50 years ago (bebop era etc...) or 25 years ago (freejazz era), wich periods i think you had in mind when writing your comment. its more likely he inspired some jazz musicians. btw, if this is Stravinsky playing the piano back in 1924 i'm the Pope :))))
@minasgekos you can't conclude that stravinsky was not inspired by jazz simply because jazz sounded different in 1920s!! in fact he was provided with some early jazz music by Ernest Ansermet which he interpreted from completely different angle though. but in 1919 he did compose piano rag which i think you know a predecessor of early jazz. so a piano piece composed in 1924 may be inflienced by early jazz idiom.the lefthand part in this piece sounds like typical rag time accompaniment
@minasgekos He actually inspired MANY jazz musicians. Charlie Parker would often jam to a Stravinsky record. Monk had Stravinsky in his record collection. Cecil Taylor, Mingus, Gillespie, all cited Stravinsky as an influence, and he arguably had more influence on jazz than any other classical composer.
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there is no one out here who says he loves this music.... I personally think its very annoying. I studied composition and piano , so its not a critic from someone who doesn t know what he is speaking about. Its just the question does this music will have succes longterm at the audience ? I don t think so. Even Beethoven or Chopin composed some works which did not survive in the concert activites....
@cavemanfarts no I didn t say that, but I just want to put one argument forward/ neither Horowitz nor Rubinstein as far as I know did record this piece . and this although it was dedicated to Rubinstein as I can read here.... There is some good music of Strawinsky of course, he was a good composer I just said everything wasn t that good. As Beethoven also did write some minor works
@cavemanfarts I already took off my comment who wasn t reflecting the reality on strawinsky who was a very interesting composer. I definitely would not take this work here in my repertory, but thats a personal approach to music.
I just read that Stravinsky wrote this piece for Artur Rubenstien after he won an argument over wheather or not the Piano was a percussion instrument.
This guy plays sloppy. Hitting too many off keys by accident. sounds like my 6yr old banging away at the ivory. I like it clean like Beethovan's style. But hey music tastes are subjective no?
komjong 1 week ago
@komjong If you want it clean like Beethoven you should listen to Beethoven... No offense, but trust me, every composition of master like Stravinsky has his historical, social background... This piece by its STYLE of playing is neoclassical and actually very sarcastic in its music language, and that is exactly what he wanted to achieve... :) ... Before listening to any piece, it is very good to read something from compositors life and style of that period... Than it is understandable ;)
BoyanRnR 9 hours ago
@RediForKing
I think that comercial music is not art, its just for money, and thats not the propuse of music or any art.
Im 15 years old and i can asure you that i know more about music than justin bibier, i mean, i easly could write one song like the ones he write (i dont know if he writes them couse a lot of comercial singers pay to other guys to write their songs) and if a professional musician look into one of justin´s songs he could give you thousands of reasons why is that crap music.
aortz 2 weeks ago
@aortz Even if justin bieber writes crap music, they don't have to bash him. He's not like claiming himself to be the best and degrading musicians better than himself, but just writing his own music. If you're unsatisfied with lots of fanatic bieber fans, just get over it cuz they won't stop you from your own favor of music and nobody forces you to think he's good, otherwise bashing him does nothing but serves to make yourself feel better as RedforKing said. I'm saying to all pointless haters.
vkvkvk1219 2 weeks ago
Beautiful, one of his greatest.
Mlini95 1 month ago
It sounds like a xmas song to me!!! Go figure!
lghalihaf 1 month ago
So why does this video open with the second movement, followed by the first and then the third?
roundtheblock1 1 month ago
Thanks for uploading!
gerardbedecarter 1 month ago
The story goes that once Gershwin went to Stravinsky and asked him for composition lessons. Stravinsky asked him how much money he had made the last year. When Gershwin told him, he replied "It is I who should take lessons from you!"
robtrodes 1 month ago
@robtrodes
True story, but has nothing to do with Stravinsky. (Gershwin - Ravel)
truecrypt 1 month ago 6
@truecrypt
Actually you were correct!
"WHENEVER George Gershwin met a famous composer, so the stories go, he would ask for lessons. He is said to have requested them from Varèse, Schoenberg, Bloch, and Toch, among others, but the two legendary responses are attributed to Ravel and Stravinsky."
truecrypt 1 month ago 5
@robtrodes It was in fact Stravinsky that Gershwin was supposed to have approached and received that response although Gerswhin was not adverse to good anecdotal material being circulated about himself. Like most artists of his calibre he had a huge ego. Gershwin is on record denying the story. He did however meet Ravel on another occasion and was turned down on the grounds that he was "batter off a first class Gershwin than a second class Ravel". That again was Gershwin's version.
kingsfort1 1 month ago
hermoso
hermanoiraki 2 months ago
*gives a mean look to the 240p button*
Nymfipapukaija 2 months ago
love this.
hiltonius 3 months ago
im in 6th grade and I listen to this. I can't stand all the crap on the radio Justin Beiber sucks so does all that rap its just about sex, money, and drugs. this is real music i wish kids my age would stop listen to all the crap on the radio
GrandWizad 3 months ago
@GrandWizad Good for you I appreciate u so much. I do listen to this music since I was born , I always loved classical. Blessings.
Erzsebettttt 3 months ago
@GrandWizad There is music beyond what you hear on the radio: Jimi Hendrix, Bessie Smith, Charles Mingus, Led Zepplin, The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, The Smiths, Joy Division.....it goes on (and not all rap is about sex), you just need to search harder for good music.
JohnAnneDoe 3 months ago
@JohnAnneDoe You sound like a Chili Pepper/John Frusciante fan. Is it true?
PrestonDowMusic 2 months ago
@PrestonDowMusic No not really, I just really like Blues and bands like Led Zepplin that take influence from blues artists.
JohnAnneDoe 2 months ago
@JohnAnneDoe oh cool, and if you're wondering why I asked, it's because those artists are almost exactly those guys' biggest influences haha
PrestonDowMusic 2 months ago
Domenigor Skarlatsky
brilliantcorners 4 months ago
Sounds good - I think Bach and Stravinsky are the only composers whose music is admirably suited for the reproducing piano roll. Oh, and Nancarrow - but that's another matter.
RollaArtis 5 months ago
@RollaArtis Nancarrow?? do tell....
TheInboil 4 months ago
@TheInboil Actually not Nancarrow - his compositions just thrive on the worst aspects of the player piano, but there we are, music is in the ear of the beholder.
RollaArtis 4 months ago
i really admire people like Stravinsky.
LivinWithNineRegrets 5 months ago
Stravinsky makes my blood boil...
It must do the same to many other people, seeing how angry/upset/jerkish so many people are in the comments. This is why I like Beethoven.. Stravinsky is like this totally calm guy who says things that drive you insane... whereas Beethoven goes on this emotional roller coaster for you, and takes you with him. xD
tallielouise 5 months ago
People who try to bring down other people's music must have really low self esteem. Seriously what do you guys who post comments like " 13 Bieber fans" try to achieve with it? To make yourself feel better because you believe your better than someone else because of the music you listen to?
RediForKing 6 months ago 13
@RediForKing Yes. All Bieber fans should be eliminated. They don't deserve to live.
superkulmedkniv25 3 months ago
@superkulmedkniv25 Stupid anti-Bieber shit is for immature 16 year olds who are jealous. I expect listeners of Stravinsky to be more cultivated than that. Why not discuss, for example, Stravinsky?
Steinbach1984 3 months ago 2
@Steinbach1984 I was being sarcastic. I guess i will stop trying to be sarcastic on Youtube.
superkulmedkniv25 3 months ago
@superkulmedkniv25 Thanks a lot mate! Yes, I didn't quite get your sarcasm, because I have read through too many non-comments of this kind that definitely weren't sarcastic. And yes, it occurs with classical music videos too. Sadly.
Steinbach1984 3 months ago
@RediForKing it could also be that they simply dont like the music and criticize at any chance out of disrespect and hate, to rid the burden of hate that that music brought to their ears. though im sure some people do do it out of low self esteem.
FingerMyFinger 1 month ago
@RediForKing oh and im not trying to support these people, they're persistent disrespect towards other's is very annoying and senseless.
FingerMyFinger 1 month ago
@RediForKing, i do actually think that the music you listen to is an indicator on how smart you are, or at least on how unsmart you are not.
Ghruul 1 month ago
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@RediForKing The answer is YES. Musical taste elitism rules. Try it, you'll like it. ;)
Resisturgetocomment 2 weeks ago
I drink a glass of iced stravinsky while listening to this
ShaolinDeadlyGamers 6 months ago
the steady staccatos and the dynamic rhythm that come with it makes it almost sound like jazz; and at the same time some people may think of JS Bach, due to the opposite movement of an ongoing melody line and the base line.
7ot7eN 6 months ago
@7ot7eN
You almost sounded like you knew what you were talking about. Then you said "base line". That gave it away. *Phony*
YoukaiGoku 6 months ago 4
@YoukaiGoku hahah at least he's trying.
vcelt 6 months ago
@YoukaiGoku Maybe it was a typo.
robtrodes 1 month ago
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hasucker 7 months ago
(17 de junio 1882-1971) :)
2005andromeda 7 months ago
Happy birthday Stravinsky! Today's my birthday too! <3 ^_^
chopzart 7 months ago
@TheDavid2222 this didnn`t sound like a modern bach jajaja, its more la a Bach in the romantcism, its too soft
toshiro2313 8 months ago
wow. This sounds like modern Bach! I love it!
TheDavid2222 9 months ago
@TheDavid2222
HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!
guitarspectre 6 months ago
13 idiots...
Britpop94 9 months ago 45
@Britpop94 15, now.
cjob94 4 months ago
@cjob94 u right ;)
Britpop94 4 months ago
this is amazing
if you like this you might like
gabriel williams - dancing with the schizophrenic
chiledofthekorn 9 months ago
Who's the pianist? (Thanks)
theblueknight99 9 months ago
This is that tune from Tom and Jerry, isn't it?
5147848amp 10 months ago
@5147848amp
It's Bach's Air on a G string
Ben1Bertels 9 months ago
I think the problem with this song, is that it is extremely hard to play, and the person playing it, isnt doing it justice.
SOSTacoJohnson 10 months ago
@SOSTacoJohnson
but is it not Stravinsky himself that plays it?
surely then it's not a matter of dexterity but of interpretation...i admit, i cannot judge, but i assume the situation is similar to my response when i heard T.s.Eliot reading his Four Quartets.. it sounded to monotone, so leveled. and yet, that was the author himself and that was his rendition of his work. there must have been a reason for that style of delivery.
( if you care to listen it's posted here on youtube.)
ellipsis000 9 months ago
@ellipsis000 ? Dude, you can't tell there is something wrong with the tempo of some notes? & the several offkey notes that are made like 10-15 times in the piece? o_O Umm, well this is awkward.
SOSTacoJohnson 9 months ago
@SOSTacoJohnson
i listen to it and: the operational word is'' idiosyncrasy''...
i don't go further than that -i said i can't judge.
ellipsis000 9 months ago
@ellipsis000 don't get me wrong the piece is for the most part played correctly. however, the speed of the notes, as well as the timings they should fit into, are definite. & it is definite that notes are misplaced or off. The reality is that a piece may become too complicated and fast for a human hand to play, and I believe this piece is a beginning example of this.
SOSTacoJohnson 9 months ago
@SOSTacoJohnson dude thats his style thats what makes it beautiful...it twists your mind with off notes.
silverswan38 9 months ago
@silverswan38 this isnt Schoenberg.
SOSTacoJohnson 9 months ago
The music of today is alright and a full orchestra is wonderful to hear, but there is just something about a single piano that just makes one feel wonderful even if there is no reason to feel happy at all. The power of music in my opinion is best shown in the passion of a solo piece.
Jamez773 10 months ago
20th Century Classical is my favorite music, but I've never liked Stravinsky (Straweenie) He was obviously brilliant, but I've always found his music annoying-it strikes me as shallow and devoid of any real sentiment. He was a salesman-selling a quirky modernist aesthetic that people who digged cubism would like. His neo-classical approach was feigned-He really was just a Dadaist. It says a lot about him that he adopted the dodecaphonic system after Schoenberg's death.
Neongrapes 10 months ago
@Neongrapes Interesting view, but I always found sentiment in Stravinsky, indeed more hidden like in every modern form. Even Debussy can feel like shallow and empty, referring to the less 'minuetic' works. I believe that moderns aesthetic only requires a different extrapolation of sentiment...
TheRiteOfWinter 10 months ago
@TheRiteOfWinter Well I've always been an "hysteric" -For Russians, my favorites are Scriabin and Shostakovich-music of nerves, neuroticism, melodrama-Stravinsky was well aware of Scriabin's music, and his neo-classicism is in part a reaction to the hyper-romantic mysticism of Scriabin. This notion seems strange to people today, but in the teens Scriabin was very much in the air and considered the leader of the Russian avant-garde before his untimely death.
Neongrapes 10 months ago
@TheRiteOfWinter Oddly enough I like Stravinsky's neo-classical works for some of the same reasons I enjoy Brahms. Despite the obvious stylistic differences, both have a detached quality, a preoccupation with form and process, but there is a very real undercurrent of emotion that exists. This, in my ears at least, creates an impression of earnest, self-aware emotion, in contrast to the histrionics of many of the romantics, or for that matter, many of the moderns.
Disestabulistic 7 months ago
@Neongrapes He adopted Webern's dodecaphonic system after Webern's death. Stylistically and systematically, the two had a very different idea of what dodecaphony was. Schoenberg used open or traditional forms for the bulk of his works, but Webern's system was all encompassing, and the bulk of his works were determined by his row charts before the pen ever touched the score paper. STravinsky began to study it in the late 40s, but since, since texts at the time were often wrong, it took awhile.
cnmaster01 9 months ago
@cnmaster01 And who's system did Webern adopt? hmmmm. Schoenberg was the catalyst. I like Webern, I like his pointillism. Straweenie just always made fun of Schoonyburger....and then to do serialism, regardless of the minute differences, after criticizing it for so many years???? Igor was brilliant, i just don't care for it in general. I like Symphony in 3 mvts, and the piano concerto, other than that....the Symphony of Psalms i just think is awkward orchestration and Sacre....blahh zahh
Neongrapes 9 months ago
@Neongrapes I wouldn't call the differences minute, but that's a different debate. I'll concede that the Psalms are grossly overated, and Sacre has been done beyond death. but stravinsky never came across to me as an opponent of Schoenberg. He was in love with Periot Lunaire, and if I recall, his Japanese lyrics were if not dedicated to, a tribute to him. he referred to dodecaphony as "an alien language" which coming from a man whose language scholars have yet to decode sounds like a compliment
cnmaster01 9 months ago
@cnmaster01 "Psalms are grossly overrated, and Sacre has been done beyond death" ha ha. I'll drink to that!
Neongrapes 9 months ago
@cnmaster01 he was urged to do so by Robert Craft. I don't know the specific's but I imagine that Craft appealed to Stravinsky's contrarian nature with some sort of 'why not'... I think it's naive to assume that the differences between Stravinsky and Webern's serial output can be chalked up to Stravinsky's not having the correct instructions.
caseyandtim 3 months ago
@caseyandtim Certainly. I think that, had he studied with Webern personally, there would still be just as many differences, Stravinsky is still Stravinsky after all, but I doubt his serial output would've been what it was. This is of course pointless speculation, but it sure is fun.
cnmaster01 3 months ago
Perfect listening on a rainy day.
MichaelBakrnchev1989 11 months ago
Stravinsky, in my humble opinion, shows much more musical originality and stylistic diversity than anyone on that top list. I'd much rather pay to see his Symphony of Psalms than Beethoven's Ninth. Stravinsky takes a bit of adjusting, but once accustomed, his music is addicting. However, you cant compare zebras to cows to kangaroos. Ranking great musicians is futile.
deaconbomb303 11 months ago
After listening to some modern recordings (including his son Soulima), this recording sounds so fresh and vibrant. How is it possible that this was recorded in 1924? It almost sounds like it could have been done yesterday. And there is no better performer of his music - so many colors and details that aren't on the printed page.
sonarrat 1 year ago
@sonarrat I think the deal is that Stravinsky cut a piano roll, and then the player piano was recorded much more recently, hence the modern recording sound.
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ducklordgabe 1 year ago
He lacks the geometry Chopin Beethoven Liszt and Mozart had. This sounds like improv music, I can do that easily...building patterns that sound good is way harder.
PrincessDesert 1 year ago
@PrincessDesert - I personally like the more randomness. I can hear it over and over and still hear new things, doesnt get old. the randomness isnt random at all, it fits very well and brings great mood, lots of artists truly are random though. The greats bring images/moods/textures. but only if you can relate, Musicians/technical people probably are bigger fans. Its much harder to memorize and play the random technical stuff that doesn't repeat as often, its a challenge, and a risk musically
brainphreak 1 year ago
@PrincessDesert chopin and liszt both designed their music ENTIRELY to sound improvised, and to a far lesser extent so did Beethoven, meanwhile Mozart becomes dull after a few minutes. as for the geometry goes, those guys were still running on Euclid. now what doesn't sound good about this?
cnmaster01 1 year ago
PrincessDesert 1 year ago
@PrincessDesert Stravinsky's music, here in particular in general is in a completely different language than those two. I couldn't give you his best pieces, but i'll give you some works you might appreciate: The Italian Cello suite, les cinq doits, the easy pieces for piano, and the finale from the firebird are a great place to start then Petrushka and the full firebird suite maybe even Oedipus Rex. then the Woodwind octet and finally the rites of spring make it down the list then come back =)
cnmaster01 1 year ago
@PrincessDesert Well that's just stupid why would anyone do that...... Bach is baroque, Mozart And Beethoven are classical Beethoven is a bit romantic as well he is very different from most actually, and Debussy Stravinsky Wagner and Bartok are 20th century music wtf? top classical composers bull shit they are all so different and all are so amazing and astounding in their own way and that is the same for everyone, every person has something to bring to the table.
catnip4life55 1 year ago
@PrincessDesert Yeah, I happened to see that list. That's total bullshit, an objective classification of composers is impossible.
TheSwordsweeper 1 year ago
@PrincessDesert anthony tommasini was probably (hopefully) fired from the times after composing that ridiculous list
Gargantupimp 11 months ago
@PrincessDesert what you dont hear in this piece so much is his use of ostinati, patterning, and asymmetric rhythmical accentuation. Listen to Symphony of Psalms, and notice the tempo and performance length of each movement. First movement notice the intro how it moves further and further into Eflat and the minor second mvt in the chorus. Also notice the ostinato w/ the voices as a minor 3rd two semitones apart. This becomes the fugue subject in the 2nd mvt. The third mvt is beautiful.
deaconbomb303 11 months ago
i don't really like music from the Classical period (although some Mozart and Haydn and others are cool) but Stravinsky's Neo-Classicism becomes really memorable to me...why??? Rhetorical question.
dalecampbl9 1 year ago
Fucking incredible! I love you, Stravinsky!!! Wish you were alive!!!!
LordN3mrod 1 year ago
Ardie83, dissonance, polyrythm, and 12 tonality technique are causing the weird feelings that you experience, I am currently writing a piece involving all these effects, and it is giving me those mixed feelings.
BeowulfVids 1 year ago
how is it possible for music to be happy, scary and dramatic at the same time!
Ardie83 1 year ago
Stravinsky happens to be a relative of mine and I just happen to be a musician myself as were my grandfather
utopianvirtuoso 1 year ago
This is not an age competition folks, this is Stravinsky, so shut the fuck up.
cavemanfarts 1 year ago 31
this is so economic and austere; at the same time it's so passionate and flat out beautiful.....civilized and inspirational, wild and free, angular yet unrestricted, thoughtful, subtle and haunting...and fun.
thezestofyore 1 year ago
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nostradamusguy 1 year ago 2
I'm 17 , and I DO like this . I'm proud of myself .
bootX3 1 year ago
@bootX3 xD
juanpablo255 1 year ago
@bootX3 I am younger mwahaha
LordMgls 1 year ago
It has some baroque elements...
predoje 1 year ago
@predoje Agree! Before reading your comment I was gonna write that there seems to be a Bach melody suddenly underneath, suddenly over 'the other sounds'.
gonrolgonrol 1 year ago
@gonrolgonrol maybe hes using baroque to inject some old good times in music that is under influence of wars and human madnes of modern age...I meen its obvious that that generations of composers were under big inluence of globalisation but come on, that i think is not so bad...
predoje 1 year ago
@predoje Yes it may be. I think the idea of mixing 'beatiful' with 'ugly/horrible' is used by many artists.
gonrolgonrol 1 year ago
@predoje That is an understatement! It is as obviously Stravinsky´s modern interpretation of Bach, as was Tippett's of Corelli (Fantasia Concertante). The dotted rythms of the opening theme of Apollon Musagete are also clearly based on Baroque dynamics. The 20s were an age of the rediscovery and reinvention of classicism (for art, cf Leger and purism) (perhaps in reaction to the nightmare of the 1st World War? Order after chaos),..again in the 50s (French Theatre, eg Cocteau; Stravinsky again)
marcusleprince 1 year ago
@marcusleprince oh..and I forgot, Picasso of course, thoroughly obsessed with (neo-) classicism...over the same period, after that initial purely intellectual exercise that was Cubism.
marcusleprince 1 year ago
@marcusleprince its interesting to compare old time where life was worst then now (in evry aspects) even so there was no wars suck world war... And compositions was and are from that time (17,18,19 century) most beutifull... It has clear melody and are more closer to us than music from 20. century... This is strange if we connect music with wars...and cataclism ..
predoje 1 year ago
@predoje However I really think that war prior to the mid/late 19th century did not have the psychological effect it had on those who suffered in the American Civil War and the WW 1-2. In fact composers regularly lauded war and sovereigns involved. War was a 'gentlemanly' affair..of course they did not experience the horrors of being on ship during Trafalgar! But reality, through the camera, did hit everyone first with the Crimean War and of course the American Civil War.
marcusleprince 1 year ago
@predoje ....The scale and overall effects on volunteers and then conscripts of WW 1-2, many of whom included artists, some even initially excited, then horrified at the reality. We do not hear of creative 'intellectuals' taking part and witnessing warfare directly until the 20thC, surely. Nor were artists actively 'political' until the mid 19thC (with some exceptions, eg Goya). Not to confuse that with 'nationalism' of which there were too many refs in music and art in the 19thC.
marcusleprince 1 year ago
can some body tell me why is tthat Russian are the best !!!! talking about Piano and orchesta
NOPALCOSMICOVIDEOS 1 year ago
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@NOPALCOSMICOVIDEOS because that is your own opinion
b0ttomzone 1 year ago
I really like this. I thought I didn't like modern music, but it seems that's not altogether true.
beatlesmack9 1 year ago
amazing!
parella 1 year ago
Awesome piece of music, jazz or no jazz.
petezilla 1 year ago
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petezilla 1 year ago
@petezilla Nitpicker, nobody likes them.
mellowcowism 1 year ago
to myself: it's Stravinsky playing a piece he wrote in 1924 - not playing it in 1924.
minasgekos 1 year ago
aaa what a stress reliever....here at work...had a tough long day...came upon stravinsky's name by accident today and am glad i decided to search for him. this is great & hit the spot for me. thx for sharing
guitar16 1 year ago
@guitar16 me too someone mentioned it on an allan holdsworth vid, but this is actually pretty damn good ...
bluebunny61 1 year ago
Considering music that had been composed during/before Stravinsky's time, I think I would have felt a natural incline to explore how to bring different perspectives of what defined a musical form into a composition, compelled to have a glimpse of how big this universe is, and to see if a mind can recognize this in the whole picture, with al the assumptions that one has taken before with tone, tempo, phrasing and harmony. The same compulsion that proved the earth's round when it was thought flat
anitaBellows 1 year ago
I read somewhere that Stravinsky said his music was only understood by chidren and animals.
fremsley001 1 year ago
Stravinsky like Picasso changes every time of language, here a "Neo barroque" style, wow. Genius, genius, russian, french, american, citizen of modern world..
pablovasconezm 1 year ago
This is the way to compose with the brain instead of "stomach", like many others.
moriorlith 1 year ago
amen, Lukrith.
atrueelsewhere 1 year ago
what's weird is I actually kind of like this piece, reminds me of Bach for some reason
dalecampbl6 1 year ago
hermosa cancion...
DarkofBlackNight 1 year ago
Interesting
newFranzFerencLiszt 1 year ago
Nice! Another great piece I didn't know about, thx for posting
MothmanCometh 1 year ago
@Lukrith Analyzing is a perfectly valid way to gain enjoyment from music. Much of the greatest enjoyment comes from understanding; this is the joy of scholarship. Part of what music can "do to you" is teach and enlighten. To say that music must be approached only "intuitively", i.e. without the application of thought, is the truly sad prospect.
oystermind 1 year ago 36
Though I strongly agree with your opinion on music I m not able yet to analyze this insane work,or any other composition of this great mastermind..Does that mean that i can not understand what I like about this piece?My opinion is that since you re hearing this you ve come to the conclusion that there is truly hope for the future..Cheers from Greece..
carlomagnis 1 year ago
@oystermind Not too sure about that
rrlloo1 1 year ago
@oystermind I totally agree with you!!
unicosmo 1 year ago
@oystermind
I agree with you, however you phrased it so pretentiously that I do hope we never meet in the physical world or I should have to tear your fingers off, pull out your tongue, lame your knees and subject you to Burzum's "Feeble Screams From Forests Unknown" for long hours henceforth.
safemypikey 1 year ago
@safemypikey hahahhah this is funny!
nita1253 11 months ago
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@safemypikey hahahhah this is funny!
nita1253 11 months ago
@oystermind The same can be said, in the opposite sense.
honron21 1 year ago
@oystermind Its annoying, but there are so so many people in youtube that swear that music has everything to do EXCEPT with understanding, study, and analysis.
NevinJarek 11 months ago
@oystermind There is a difference between enjoying music and beautiful music.
Arfat 11 months ago
@oystermind beauty is out of understanding but it's true, analysing can give you good kinds of perceptions, but I think something extremply complex and interesting can be extremly boring at the same time like a some pieces of bach, it doesn't mean it's not good but there is a part of magic in music, a simple thing that gives you chill at the first listening, simple but truely true :)
not easy in english for me hope you understand
hirgons 10 months ago
@oystermind intuition comes after trascending the technique. Pure technique is like a square of dead
raowls 10 months ago
@raowls 'xactly. Emphasis on "after", though, because pure intuition without technique results only in very sloppy might-have-beens.
Sylverling 9 months ago
strasvinky and dracula are the same guys
utarefsonmetushelac 1 year ago 12
strabinsky was a badass
NocturneCanada 1 year ago 2
Yes! Very beautifull. Thanks for posting.
mKL01Q0O 1 year ago
i have to do a paper on this guy!!!!! :/
robertoi945 1 year ago
This is an underplayed piece. It's awesome.
lambicframbroise 1 year ago
Wow this is just fucking insane. Why would anybody say this sounds horrible?
cavemanfarts 1 year ago 10
the most educated musician of our or their time.
Imagine what Mozart or Beethoven would have done with his knowledge. Academic turds - way above your pea brains.
yaksime 1 year ago
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He was not the most educated musician of his time. He didn't even have that much formal music training. Mozart and Beethoven were better trained and both of their respective musical accomplishments were far greater than Stravinksy's.
benw2771 1 year ago
Depends on your perspective. If you believe Debussy ushered in the Modern era (a camp I fall into), then he wouldn't be on their level probably. However, if you think Stravinsky pulled the Romantics kicking and screaming into the 20th century, he's easily on their level.
He did have a significant amount of training in counterpoint and orchestration as well. He said he found harmony boring, but the study of harmony in it's modern form wasn't practiced by Mozart or Beethoven either.
ryanke07 1 year ago
@benw2771 you don't have to be educated to preform works of art
halojr1803369 1 year ago
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Sorry, I got that the wrong way round: good playing, bad music.
roethkeroethke 1 year ago
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Okay, it's simple. Good music, bad playing.
roethkeroethke 1 year ago
so true. it rly needs some distorted guitar or something, or maybe a xylophone and some bird calls.
awesomewelles90 1 year ago
@awesomewelles90 This isn't Zappa.
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mjpilkomeo 1 year ago
C'est trop beau.
:-)
AnnaPirate 2 years ago
I think this is the first time of my hearing this. It is definitely different anyway. It may grow on me. Gritty. Rhythmic. Direct. Free. Original.
Fantastic playing! So fresh.
the major chord at the end made me laugh; a very dry humour.
cynic150 2 years ago
@cynic150 somebody here understands Stravinsky!
cnmaster01 1 year ago
This is excellent.
spiralmetal 2 years ago
great music!
(Early jazz + modern classical) ??
I don't know, though, how much was he influenced by jazz.
santom21 2 years ago
@santom21 he was not inspired by jazz because jazz in 1924 didn't sound like it sounded 50 years ago (bebop era etc...) or 25 years ago (freejazz era), wich periods i think you had in mind when writing your comment. its more likely he inspired some jazz musicians. btw, if this is Stravinsky playing the piano back in 1924 i'm the Pope :))))
minasgekos 1 year ago
@minasgekos you can't conclude that stravinsky was not inspired by jazz simply because jazz sounded different in 1920s!! in fact he was provided with some early jazz music by Ernest Ansermet which he interpreted from completely different angle though. but in 1919 he did compose piano rag which i think you know a predecessor of early jazz. so a piano piece composed in 1924 may be inflienced by early jazz idiom.the lefthand part in this piece sounds like typical rag time accompaniment
santom21 1 year ago
@santom21 you might be right after all
minasgekos 1 year ago
@minasgekos He actually inspired MANY jazz musicians. Charlie Parker would often jam to a Stravinsky record. Monk had Stravinsky in his record collection. Cecil Taylor, Mingus, Gillespie, all cited Stravinsky as an influence, and he arguably had more influence on jazz than any other classical composer.
ArtD42 1 year ago
stravinsky-ravel-debussy the greatest!!!!
StaloNeGR 2 years ago
i know!...what would music be without them???
johnnynoirman 1 year ago
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there is no one out here who says he loves this music.... I personally think its very annoying. I studied composition and piano , so its not a critic from someone who doesn t know what he is speaking about. Its just the question does this music will have succes longterm at the audience ? I don t think so. Even Beethoven or Chopin composed some works which did not survive in the concert activites....
uhartchristian 2 years ago
I'm sure you wrote less annoying music in your own piano sonata.
popol321 2 years ago 2
@uhartchristian So you base music on whether people will like it or not?
cavemanfarts 1 year ago
@cavemanfarts no I didn t say that, but I just want to put one argument forward/ neither Horowitz nor Rubinstein as far as I know did record this piece . and this although it was dedicated to Rubinstein as I can read here.... There is some good music of Strawinsky of course, he was a good composer I just said everything wasn t that good. As Beethoven also did write some minor works
uhartchristian 1 year ago
@cavemanfarts I already took off my comment who wasn t reflecting the reality on strawinsky who was a very interesting composer. I definitely would not take this work here in my repertory, but thats a personal approach to music.
uhartchristian 1 year ago
@uhartchristian my first hearing 87 years after the composition and i am in love with it
cnmaster01 1 year ago
I just read that Stravinsky wrote this piece for Artur Rubenstien after he won an argument over wheather or not the Piano was a percussion instrument.
mahler151 2 years ago 24
@mahler151
Did he say it was or it was not?
Heavymetalgamer28 1 year ago