I grew up with the Katchen performances and seem to judge others by the standards set; whilst he might falter to the technique wizardy of the youth today he more than makes up with his intuitive performances, and the youth of today might listen and learn...Katchen had a fabulous technique and was always at great pains to demonstrate. His Beethoven Concertos and Choral Fantasy are impassable.
Le cancer le fauchait un peu plus tard,mais pour les gens de ma génération,Katchen fut celui qui nous faisait découvrir la totalité de Brahms...aujourd'hui encore ma gratitude envers ce pianiste est intacte.
L'émotion est grande aussi de voir celui qu'on a écouté durant des journées entières en fermant les yeux de bonheur.
this is amazing,although i am not a great fan of julius katchen.he is similar to emanuel ax in a way,but he was of course the better pianist.i heard him live in concert only once with brahms paganini variations,that was really magnificent,he was nonetheless great i guess!
This is still a classic performance of one of the most beautiful and most difficult pieces to play. I've just started working on it and all I can say it is more difficullt than a Chopin etude! The second part brings tears to my eyes with its tenderness and reall sadness.
I sort of hate to call you out on this but most of the hungarian rhapsodies are harder than this, and the trascendental etudes harder then those... and alkan's etudes harder still by a margin.
The piece maybe easy technically, but mastering the musical aspects are a different story. Anyone can play notes, getting the music to come across is a different story.
I see this sentiment slung around alot in youtube comments and in real life by pianists I know, but you could claim that, say, chopin's first nocturne is an extremely difficult piece because of the amount of work it takes to make it expressive. But in truth nearly every piece has a great capacity for expression. Liszt's transcendental etudes being no exception.
it's ok...there is also islamey by balakirev, the sonatas by chopin and more.... but this is one of the hardest pieces of every times!it's not based on trascendental techinique, but on a sort of classic one lead to extreme levels!i can't speak english very well...i'm sorry
I think I see what you mean. There are alot of scales in the passages of this piece played at a great velocity. I friend of mine is tackling this piece and he has been slaving away at it for months and I know he can play a hungarian rhapsody fairly well. And to be fair, I'd probably find this schubert piece more difficult than a hungarian rhapsody because I'm so used to liszt's octave passages :)
@gabpant Well, people who describe themselves as classical musicians tend not to have as great a technique as one might expect. True classical musicianship, virtuosity like Godowsky, Liszt, Chopin, Rachmaninoff, Cziffra, or Richter, is all-encompassing.
Mr. Katchen plays Mozart on the Rolling Stones Rock'n'Roll Circus (out take) 1968. He was having fun it seemed. Can anyone post that clip? poor Brian was so near his end when he made the introduction.......93 ya'll
Oh, t'is a sad day when two classical music fans argue over you tube.. I thought i could at least find a malenky bit of a maturity on a Schubert video. Alas, i was mistaken. *smech* :P
does perfect interpretation means- it has to be without mistakes? i mean its live and this passage is realy tricky! i can't understand people searching for mistakes- you never get a message from Katchen or Schubert- because you're waiting for the wrong thing!
I realy like his playing!- i wished i could do so!
i hope i maked myself clear- because (maybe you recognized my ortografical desaster) english is not so easy
the people that are bashing Katchen's playing, or any other established pianist, are truly pretentious assholes. Sloppy playing? Try playing that famous octave passage yourself, at Katchen's tempo! idiots
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You're all mad. This performance is unhearable. Just look at the octaves at 04.35,please don't write idiot things. This was very, incredibly bad played.
I agree. Comparable to Richter? Ha! The notes sound like a jumble of notes, not balanced at all, completely decimating the melodic tune. And what is up with all those odd notes on the octaves there? I simply have to say that this is not one of the best Wanderer I heard, in my opinion.
I like this very much. Tempo might be a bit fast for some passages in this piece but at least the music moves on and it doesn't sound boring. Although sometimes he could make "invisible pauses" (my taste...). Dynamics are also too.
London Recordings has issued a Complete Boxset of all the Brahms Music for solo piano with Julius as the Pianist. Great box set. His technique on some of the lessor known pieces is very interesting.
so much nicer than Lang Langs version indeed. No disturbing rubatos (doing so much harm to Schubert in general - all the more in this piece). although... there do exist some more transparent interpretations, eg Richter.
This fellow had one of the most complete all round techniques I know of, so glad more people now have the oppertunity to hear and observe his performances.
Katchen had an extraordinary technique. That of a musician with it's own sound. You can recognise Katchen with your eyes closed. Technique and mechanic are two different things. The young generation has great mechanic but no technique at all. Listen to Lang Lang and you will understand. Personally, I would change every hour of Lang Lang playing against seconds of Katchen's interpretation
Shut up and listen!
jairevesousleau 1 week ago
I grew up with the Katchen performances and seem to judge others by the standards set; whilst he might falter to the technique wizardy of the youth today he more than makes up with his intuitive performances, and the youth of today might listen and learn...Katchen had a fabulous technique and was always at great pains to demonstrate. His Beethoven Concertos and Choral Fantasy are impassable.
s1earle 4 months ago
04.43 - 04.52: Ouch! >.<
harrykinomoto 8 months ago
Great pianist !!!
josegiraldi 1 year ago
Anyone criticising Katchen's technique needs to buy his Brahms set.
Haeronthegreat 1 year ago
@Haeronthegreat Exactly-this Brahms set is a reference to this day.
As for Katchen's technique I dare say that it equals Richter's-
superbemaison 9 months ago 2
There are 11 ways not to play C.
navenny 1 year ago 2
amazing
unalegeli 1 year ago
Le cancer le fauchait un peu plus tard,mais pour les gens de ma génération,Katchen fut celui qui nous faisait découvrir la totalité de Brahms...aujourd'hui encore ma gratitude envers ce pianiste est intacte.
L'émotion est grande aussi de voir celui qu'on a écouté durant des journées entières en fermant les yeux de bonheur.
antoinezygfryd 2 years ago
This is amazing stuff--
the berlinz guy's comment doesn't make any sense or is it just me?
ericclark2 2 years ago
this is amazing,although i am not a great fan of julius katchen.he is similar to emanuel ax in a way,but he was of course the better pianist.i heard him live in concert only once with brahms paganini variations,that was really magnificent,he was nonetheless great i guess!
berlinzerberus 2 years ago
This is still a classic performance of one of the most beautiful and most difficult pieces to play. I've just started working on it and all I can say it is more difficullt than a Chopin etude! The second part brings tears to my eyes with its tenderness and reall sadness.
Clavichordist 2 years ago
I sort of hate to call you out on this but most of the hungarian rhapsodies are harder than this, and the trascendental etudes harder then those... and alkan's etudes harder still by a margin.
dasklavierleben 1 year ago
@dasklavierleben
The piece maybe easy technically, but mastering the musical aspects are a different story. Anyone can play notes, getting the music to come across is a different story.
Clavichordist 1 year ago
@Clavichordist
I see this sentiment slung around alot in youtube comments and in real life by pianists I know, but you could claim that, say, chopin's first nocturne is an extremely difficult piece because of the amount of work it takes to make it expressive. But in truth nearly every piece has a great capacity for expression. Liszt's transcendental etudes being no exception.
dasklavierleben 1 year ago
@dasklavierleben
it's ok...there is also islamey by balakirev, the sonatas by chopin and more.... but this is one of the hardest pieces of every times!it's not based on trascendental techinique, but on a sort of classic one lead to extreme levels!i can't speak english very well...i'm sorry
gabpant 1 year ago
@gabpant
I think I see what you mean. There are alot of scales in the passages of this piece played at a great velocity. I friend of mine is tackling this piece and he has been slaving away at it for months and I know he can play a hungarian rhapsody fairly well. And to be fair, I'd probably find this schubert piece more difficult than a hungarian rhapsody because I'm so used to liszt's octave passages :)
dasklavierleben 1 year ago
@gabpant Well, people who describe themselves as classical musicians tend not to have as great a technique as one might expect. True classical musicianship, virtuosity like Godowsky, Liszt, Chopin, Rachmaninoff, Cziffra, or Richter, is all-encompassing.
Reaper978 1 year ago
@Reaper978 i don't describe me as a classical musican!what the hell are you speakin'about ?
gabpant 1 year ago
@gabpant I didn't mean that you are describing yourself as a classical musician. I meant others who do.
Reaper978 1 year ago
0:03, haha
skryabyn 2 years ago
Mr. Katchen plays Mozart on the Rolling Stones Rock'n'Roll Circus (out take) 1968. He was having fun it seemed. Can anyone post that clip? poor Brian was so near his end when he made the introduction.......93 ya'll
12347771 2 years ago
take your stupidity somewhere else.
DonGiovanni91 2 years ago 5
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Somebody buy this guy a metronome. His changes in tempo go well beyond the realm of good taste.
gozhn 2 years ago
Hahaa, this can be agreed upon ;)
SealedSage 2 years ago
This is magic
michieldpiano 2 years ago 5
Oh, t'is a sad day when two classical music fans argue over you tube.. I thought i could at least find a malenky bit of a maturity on a Schubert video. Alas, i was mistaken. *smech* :P
emergenyexit23 2 years ago 5
magnifike !
greenrock483 2 years ago
Oh, How Magnificent !!! Please tell me there is a recording of this performance.
alex7700585 2 years ago 3
rests are WAY too long....
dontdisslanglang 3 years ago
Katchen's technic is to be compared to Richter's!!
I allways liked Katchen .
Fresh and immediate!
superbemaison 3 years ago 4
does perfect interpretation means- it has to be without mistakes? i mean its live and this passage is realy tricky! i can't understand people searching for mistakes- you never get a message from Katchen or Schubert- because you're waiting for the wrong thing!
I realy like his playing!- i wished i could do so!
i hope i maked myself clear- because (maybe you recognized my ortografical desaster) english is not so easy
kicherkolben 3 years ago 3
the people that are bashing Katchen's playing, or any other established pianist, are truly pretentious assholes. Sloppy playing? Try playing that famous octave passage yourself, at Katchen's tempo! idiots
Lisztman1 3 years ago 8
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Sloppy all around
pianotheandrewman 3 years ago
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You're all mad. This performance is unhearable. Just look at the octaves at 04.35,please don't write idiot things. This was very, incredibly bad played.
ricercarehor 3 years ago
I agree. Comparable to Richter? Ha! The notes sound like a jumble of notes, not balanced at all, completely decimating the melodic tune. And what is up with all those odd notes on the octaves there? I simply have to say that this is not one of the best Wanderer I heard, in my opinion.
Sinfoniette 3 years ago
I like this very much. Tempo might be a bit fast for some passages in this piece but at least the music moves on and it doesn't sound boring. Although sometimes he could make "invisible pauses" (my taste...). Dynamics are also too.
mursum151 3 years ago
London Recordings has issued a Complete Boxset of all the Brahms Music for solo piano with Julius as the Pianist. Great box set. His technique on some of the lessor known pieces is very interesting.
Creibold 3 years ago 2
Yes and this complete set is a reference but hardly heard..I wonder why?
superbemaison 2 years ago
so much nicer than Lang Langs version indeed. No disturbing rubatos (doing so much harm to Schubert in general - all the more in this piece). although... there do exist some more transparent interpretations, eg Richter.
sabadabaduz 3 years ago 9
he really messed up at 4:50 :D, but great playing anyways, most decent performance i found here
dannicron 3 years ago
Absolutely fantastic playing
KlassikFan2007 4 years ago 6
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Can't really hear the technique you're bragging about, I'm afraid.
The recording is certainly interesting and the pianist is obviously a classic but there are some better and newer executions of the piece.
anonimowysherlock 4 years ago
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Thats holy shit* The sound is cutted off, and there are to many changes in tempo
meydav86 4 years ago
For such idiots as you only changes of tempo and other empty words that they learned to use matter.
op83bdur 4 years ago 5
This fellow had one of the most complete all round techniques I know of, so glad more people now have the oppertunity to hear and observe his performances.
Razaak 4 years ago 10
Who cares about his technique? He makes music!
ejasiewicz 3 years ago 7
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The most ridiculous comment I've ever read.
67hob 3 years ago
I presume you never heard Schnabel's wise comment, "Music knows no fingers," dear.
ejasiewicz 3 years ago 3
and what relevance did that quote have exactly, 'dear'
67hob 3 years ago
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ejasiewicz 3 years ago
Since when has 'ass' been a swear-word, you tw*t?
67hob 3 years ago
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ejasiewicz 3 years ago
same to you too, treacle
67hob 3 years ago
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ejasiewicz 3 years ago
Sure thing, sugar.
67hob 3 years ago
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that is a flippin ridicuous comment! outright dumbass.
wagneristhebest 2 years ago
Sorry you disagree, but I believe acusing Katchen of having an insufficient technique is the ridiculous part. Deal with it...
EdwardJasiewicz 2 years ago 15
@EdwardJasiewicz + 1, you're absolutely right
Katchen had an extraordinary technique. That of a musician with it's own sound. You can recognise Katchen with your eyes closed. Technique and mechanic are two different things. The young generation has great mechanic but no technique at all. Listen to Lang Lang and you will understand. Personally, I would change every hour of Lang Lang playing against seconds of Katchen's interpretation
PhedraBcn 9 months ago
This piece is awsome. And so is the pianist.
AznLanceLord 4 years ago 8
Sad and too early a loss indeed... The more I hear from his performances the more I get to love them! Thank you for sharing!!!
Erinnyae 4 years ago 16
Superb Playing....No one could ever do this better...sad loss.
shela2 4 years ago 8
amazing! what a demanding and passionate performance! i love this piece =]
verapianist71491 4 years ago 10
i play this too:) this is great
coserua 4 years ago 2
solid wanderer
noscrusir 4 years ago 2
Love it!!!
thechopinfan 4 years ago 2
wonderful
spiderml 4 years ago 2
Thank you,I´ve always wanted to see him play,he´s wonderful!He died quite young,didn´t he?What a loss!
vova47 4 years ago
Yes, he died of cancer when he about 42.
ulyssesjj 4 years ago 3