Adequatio: Adventures in Participatory Epistemology

[patternsinchaos]

Most excellent work Matt and Chris! Thank you.

I'm considering preparing a response with a critique of Steiner's view on "The Fall" as it relates to what I consider a common error in the translation of the concepts of Christ and Lucifer. I believe this is a critical issue in the successful navigation of these dark waters.

If I take the time to do this, will you respond, Matt?

[0ThouArtThat0]

I'm excited by the prospects of your critique! I will try to respond asap. I'll be tied up with paper writing for the next several weeks, though.

[patternsinchaos]

I'll do some research during breaks from my music and give this another listen.

[astrotometry]

I do not believe you will grok my translation of the concepts of Christ and Lucifer until you have a firm grasp on:

1. The relationship between solar active regions, flares and storms.

2. The relationship between holes in the solar corona and earthquakes.

This is an over simplified reduction, but is headed in the right direction:

/watch?v=aJzQrYf_hQo

[patternsinchaos]

RE: Language barrier as form of Autism:

Autism is an innate disorder. The necessity for specialization in the exploration of the real will vicariously disable the specialist in the unattended areas. It's not a disease but a mandate of her work. Culture must adjust.

As conventions in more rigorous schools, the more subtle communiques are not just ignored, but actually discouraged. As above, this indicates neither a lack of ability nor ignorance, but necessity for teleological manifestation.

[patternsinchaos]

44:35 "It's not the desire itself that is evil. It's the teleology pulling the desire that is causing the problem."

It is true that the problems or injuries, with arguably evil sources, may cause the desire, but the desire itself is more often than not, an expression of the collective consciousness as it copes with the (perceived) evil.

More importantly, the expression of desire is generally a mechanism which allows the realization of the telos of the cosmic being.

[plutodrvv]

Matt your videos are awesome. Please don't stop publishing them. Give us some poems, your experiences in SF. Insights.

[patternsinchaos]

At 6:00 Chris says that one of the main aspects motivating PCC is Participatory Epistemology. What does PCC stand for? (google didn't answer)

[0ThouArtThat0]

philosophy, cosmology, and consciousness.

[WarzSchoolchild]

0:22:10 The theory of evolution is refuted by the facts. Watch "Charlton Heston on the Origin of Man Part 1 to 6" here on YouTube, and have your belief in evolution shattered beyond repair. It is a manifestly false pseudo-science.

[plutodrvv]

It is a good point that we have tuned out other languages and voices like nature.

[2bsirius]

This is NOT dark, dreary England...Sorry couldn't close my eyes...I was too busy looking at the sunlight and the beautiful ocean...

"Believe before we will see?" "The other?" I just can't go there, Matt...Thanks for the great views of the water and sunlight though.

[patternsinchaos]

What does PCC stand for?

[5jeanbittersweet]

Fascinating, thought provoking vid, talk..and even the ?'s at the end , language of mathmatics.like in the Kaballah.."he speaks to us through numbers", and language of organisms like plants, just saw Michael Pollan's Botany of Desire.. so much window opens a window opens a window..I can't quite catch up to it all. TY

[almafarag]

"you cannot jump from the ground without using the resistance of the ground, nor put the boat to sea, without shoving from the shore"

well,

perhaps this is a bit more complicated, I guess,

what you say is detri-mental is also fund-a-mental

(for it to be detri- etc.), to use some poor pun,

yet,

richness unfolds

from within,

and that is that IS

but sure, I agree, liquidating the rigid habits of the mind, is a pressing issue.......

[MaBu888]

You explained and laid out quite few points you've made in your videos, in this video. VERY COOL!

[0ThouArtThat0]

glad you enjoyed it.

[alteringenting]

but its just not true that language come as something godgiven or that it is related to divinity or anything like that. It is an evolutionary thing! We are animals! We didn't learn to name things at some point. That is part ow what makes us human.

[Torcika]

every animal has it's own way of communication,but I guess we humans stand up by our power to use this Hi-tech Equipment called language to code and decode the world around us,to know things trough it.

The thing that i believe he is referring to,it's very subtle,and you have to look at Language in all of its form and from variant perspectives to understand its Divine nature

I'm not into philosophy so I could be wrong

[1PostPoMoMaN1]

This is not whether or not language itself is divine. This about the very ability to abide as one consciousness. Evolution indeed (not sarcasm).

[0ThouArtThat0]

I don't think language is God-given. I think the evolution of human language is the self-revelation of God. We are animals, in the original Aristotelian sense: we are breathing beings, or creatures with soul/psyche. We are more than animals, though. I do not think it is accurate to say humanity is just another species of mammal. As Teilhard suggested, the human being marks the emergence of a new kingdom of nature.

[alteringenting]

i kind of agree, but there is something fishy here. Language isn'nt any more self-revelation of God than anything else is. Can you make a video about it and I'll respond? Everything is nature.

[alteringenting]

wow you guys go to a liberal school!!!

[EmergingEmergency]

this was very pleasant to listen to, thanks :)

[ozjthomas]

I was hoping Adequatio was Aquaman's brother =(

[HaleyMary]

awesome vid. I like the idea of having to believe before seeing. thought provoking. it reminds me a bit of something like the brain creating it's own reality.

[theprodigy2186]

Amazing stuff

[Paramystical]

thoroughly enjoyed this

[theosophers]

A very nice theosophical discourse!