Religion: belief or worship of a god. or, a particular system of faith or worship. See dictionary. Only Christians go to hell.. They invented it. Just like sinning. I never hear atheists talk about sinning. They have no god to disappoint. Sad aren't they.
@wondergundy I'm referring to the eternal uncreated laws of morality that God also is obligated to follow otherwise He will go to hell. They are the laws that everyone is able to know by perfectly utilizing logic, philosophy, honesty, confidence/acceptance/faith, and opendmindedness.
oh... by the way... i what i read is called TaNaKh :) you might try it sometime. it's quite a bit better than an english bible translated to hebrew, lol
so busy pointing at everyone saying 'you're not what i think you should be, you're lost!' that you forget it's your own eye you gotta get the beam out of before worrying about someone's splinter, lol, and the nt was not written in hebrew. all you can get for a hebrew nt is a translation from english translated from greek. only nt hebrew text was matt which is STILL being worked on to translate back. and don't forget who jesus hung out with :) it's the 'sinner' who enters heaven b4 the hypocrite
there's no such thing as non hypocritical judging from a hypocrite :) and the first commandment is to HAVE no other gods before him, lol so who's misquoting there. nowhere in the law jesus supposedly followed does it say atheism is a sin. in case you missed it, jesus changed the law making him anti-torah and eligible for death. by the way, the comment to any hypocrite he makes is as a warning to people who act like hypocrites :) judge not, lest ye be judged, lol
@GodsArePeopleToo The passage is referring specifically to hypocrites: ie, those that have planks in their own eye, worrying about others specks. read the passage, you'll see i'm right.
I'm not misquoting. Its calling textual criticism. You are reading an english Bible when what was commanded was written in Hebrew, NOT english. Your conclusions are not linguistically justified.
The Messiah did NOT change any part of the Law. We are to keep EVERYTHING in the Law.
oh, and one more thing :) you say atheists sin for not believing while you worship a god other than the one who gave the command about worshiping OTHER gods lmao and not knowing what kind of lifestyle any one atheist has, you're judging? um... what did jesus (the one you claim to follow) say about judging? do you know?
@GodsArePeopleToo We are all "gods", & we are told to not worship gods [as 1 would worship Yahuwah], not that we r 2 not worship gods. Even if an atheist was perfect in all other areas of life, if he's an atheist, he's a sinner, for any1 is a sinner if they sin, even the smallest sin,& atheism is a sin.u also misquote the Messiah.The context is referring 2 hypocritical judging,not nonhypocritical judging. If it were referring 2 nonhypocritical judging, We'd have 2 reject that book as Scripture.
atheism is a single position on a singular issue. there are no doctrines, no tenets, no rituals, no gods, no superstitions, no commandments, no imaginary friend in the volcano, no blood sacrifice, no chosen people, no holy texts, none of the bullshit you have in theism. atheism is nothing more than a response to theism 'i believe in god'... 'really? i don't'. if atheism is a religion, christians have millions of religions for all the gods they don't believe in
why do u believe the bible offers a correct description?
When and how...at what point did you decide the bible was accurate? was it the timothy passage that said all scripture is inspired? If so, up until you read that, did you not think it was from god?
did you decide that it was from god before you read anything in it because someone else told you it is (or they believed it is)? did u go in agreeing with it all along...or was there a point?
@MyNonBelief I believe in hell because I believe in a just God, someone who punishes the wicked for their sins. I believe it is wrong to let unrepentant sinners off the hook. It makes a mockery of true righteousness. It is a great sin. I believe it is wrong to not punish unrepentant sinners. I believe it is wrong to give unfair punishments to sinners. That is why I believe in hell, because every sinner gets what they justly deserve in hell.
@carlsonap16 I believe in God, because it is philosophically absurd to suggest God does not exist. I also believe the evidence for God in addition to the philosophical proof is greatly abundant. I believe the Bible offers a correct view of God because of the evidence that the Bible has in favor of its authenticity.
@carlsonap16 I decide to myself through logical analysis and reasoning what is and is not Scripture. I consider about 200 books to be Scripture, much more than the people who blindly accept the Bible in its current corrupted form.
@carlsonap16 again...at least you are honest...YOU decide yourself what is and is not scripture (if scripture is meant to be "from" god).
And u see once YOU decide, then that is a subjective opinion...not objective fact. And the deal is...u have hit on the head the whole ISSUE that arises w/ religion...1st, the jews knew what was and wasnt scripture...THEN the jews for jesus knew what was scripture (or more accurately, the 1st council of nicea), then muslims, then martin luther,then joe smith
@carlsonap16 philosophically absurd to suggest god does not exist??? Please explain how non belief is philosophically absurd...or point me to a video or blog where you have already suggested this.
The evidence for god? Which god?
The evidence the bible has in favor of its authenticity????? Wait...eye witness accounts TODAY are not reliable...much less 2nd, 3rd, etc hand accounts....Not to mention the mixture of "divine inspiration" and things impossible to have been known.
@humanistheart provide a philosophical argument that proves otherwise. My videos in my channel that is about philosophy. the ones that are about absolute truth and the mind. those prove that a god must exist.
I decide what is Scripture based on the objective evidence, and not based on subjectivity.
@humanistheart once again, what is this the 4th time? watch the videos and you'll see. if you have already watched the videos, you obviously failed in your understanding of simple logic. I prove through absolute truth, mind, and holism that a necessary mind must exist, and a mind is the same thing as a god in my definition, so since a necessary mind must exist, therefore, at least one god has always existed.
@carlsonap16 You do no such thing, and you're inability to provide any reasoning here only supports that. But I'm sure you'll just claim it for a 5th time while still refusing to list any evidence or logic.
@humanistheart did you watch the videos? you never said you did, so i've simply assumed you didn't watch the videos. If you watched the videos, why don't you clarify this so that I can understand what you are saying. You can't just discredit me without even listening to my arguments. If you have listened to the arguments and still hold your position, that is another issue entirely.
@carlsonap16 but why...why do u believe in a just god...bc u want there to b one? bc u believe the bible? what is the basis for yr belief? do u think that society shouldnt have prisons bc god will take care of them LATER? u are not born with that belief...that idea has to be presented to you, then u have to decide whether to say yay or ney...why do u say yay? thank you...thank you for using i believe throughout...at least u r intellectually honest. u didnt say there is a hell...u said u believe
@MyNonBelief Indeed, one has to wonder what kind of 'justice' allows for women to be raped, for children to be abused, for people to be enslaved, or for mass genocides and infanticides to occur. Calling the christian god good is a perversion of the word.
@humanistheart thanks for agreeing.... i have found that religion SEEMS to, on the surface, have the or at least an answer for almost everything.
But if u just ask questions, or look at it from a different perspective,drop certain assumptions, the answers religion tends to give just dont hold up.
I still to this day do not understand pple who dismiss the notion of adam/eve being real people, but dont follow the logic...no adam eve, (all stories COULD be BS), then no sin, then no need for JC
@MyNonBelief And they tend to think 'sin' is 'wrong' but it has no moral connotation what so ever. Sin's just whatever their god doesn't care for at the momment, so why should someone need to 'atone' for it? Imagine if humans acted like that. "What, you like the GIANTS?!? No, I'm a Dodger fan, you must atone for your transaction against me!" No, it's insane.
@humanistheart agreed...and i do not understand why theists have such difficulty in realizing that we dont need a set of 10 cmmndmnts or god to know that people dont like other people stealing their shit.Non religious,atheists,babies, hindus, buddhists, etc all share a very territorial animalisitc trait...if it aint yours, leave it the fuck alone or there will be consequences here and now. one of many things theism tries to take credit for in their god's name.I wont let theists get away with it
@MyNonBelief It's funny, christians love to talk about the 10 commandments, but they ignore most of the hebrew bible's laws, so why would those be any exception? Plus they ignore the fact their god doesn't follow his own commandments. That's what's called a hypocrite.
@humanistheart im not a christian, in that i follow all the bibles laws, and do ignore them. i dont eat unclean food, and i do everything the bible commands me to do in its proper context. i keep all the feasts. i believe the Law of Moses is to be followed by all people. I am what you call not a hypocrite. you might think me crazy, but at least i'm consistent in my religion.
think about any of the moral implications i do as an active atheist.
and i find most peoples actions are based off of no being hassled. not wanting to fuck up their life. in fact, i would say that materialism is a major reason for morality.
what happens if you do something illegal (which usually or sometimes coincide with morality (though thats subjective not objective))...you get your shit taken away.l your freedom...your tv, your home...your friends, family...your privleges, food all your stuf
i am just starting to listen to your post...so u may go into more detail...if u want to call it religion,fine. i take religions as having some deity involved...& i would call things belief systems instead of religion,if u want to go there.but vegans is a belief system...they act based on that thinking.atheletes live their life based on athletics...that coudl b their rel...fine.
but do not confuse an active atheist & a passive atheist. most people i talk to dont care. they go to church but dont
@MementoMori88 please note that when I said there was scientific proof, I was not referring to this website i shared with you, but something I remember reading a long time ago, but can't find, and is possible i misremember.
this website provided to you as you said offers explanations for how it could be feasible to exist. and yes, i don't believe in macro-evolutionism, so i see no problem with that =). I appreciate this dialogue you have been doing with me. shalom.
@MementoMori88 i must admit i can't find the reference again. however, i did find a website that offers scientific explanations as to how it could work. i was pretty sure i remember reading about a komodo dragon being able to breathe fire, but I could very like be wrong about this. my mistake. the website i would link you too, but youtube doesn't let me post links in comments. try searching "advanced dragon description" and click the website that says dragnix
@MementoMori88 i must admit i can't find the reference again. however, i did find a website that offers scientific explanations: The breath weapon of a dragon is not a magical thing that spread out of no-where but had a more scientific explanation. When we eat our body by digesting created a gas know as Methane (CH4), dragon unlike human and other animal store this gas into another kind of "lung" that will serve as a bag/canister to held the gas that will be later mixed with
@MementoMori88 i must admit i can't find the reference again. however, i did find a website that offers scientific explanations: "The breath weapon of a dragon is not a magical thing that spread out of no-where but had a more scientific explanation. When we eat our body by digesting created a gas know as Methane (CH4), dragon unlike human and other animal store this gas into another kind of "lung" that will serve as a bag/canister to held the gas that will be later mixed with
@MementoMori88 I believe that animals used to talk before the fall of man. they no longer do talk. however, I do believe that animals can and do sin, as I am a biblical animist. I believe animals have souls and spirits, and also Mother Earth is alive and has a soul and spirit, and the sun and moon also have spirits. I can't really prove the sun and moon have spirits and souls outside of scripture, but this belief about the sun and moon isn't that important anyways.
@MementoMori88 also, mermaids are also not unfounded. the reason? have you ever heard of genetic hybridization? i do not believe mermaids are natural animals, but offspring of artificial processes, of genetic hybridization (angels coming down, having sex with humans and those hybrid humans having sex with animals).
@MementoMori88 there is a good reason suffering exists. there is a good reason to allow evil. animals did not arise out of macroevolution or any other of the higher evolutionary processes. now, as of this point, it is only me saying to you that these things are simply not true about real life and thus the abrahamic god offers no logical contradiction, only to the ones that impose contradictory things onto the being that were never intended to be imposed.
@MementoMori88 dragons are not unfounded. why do you think dragons are represented in fast amount of cultures that were from far distances from each other? the reason is that there was an actual creature very similar to a dragon that existed. is a dragon any more absurd than a dinosaur? a dragon is a very dinosaur like creature. further more scientifically it is proven that there are animals capable of breathing fire from their mouths. & finally, bible teaches dragons are real, so i believe it.
@MementoMori88 it is more absurd to believe that someone created the idea of a unicorn. it is also possible that dinosaur fossils were planted to trick us into thinking dinosaurs actually existed when they didn't, but I do not believe in something that is clearly absurd. It can only logically be that either it was another animal mistaken for a horse that had a horn or that it was an actually horse that had a horn. However, I am convinced unicorns existed, because the Bible says unicorns existed.
@MementoMori88 i don't see a problem that most atheists are agnostics.
i do not see any logical contradiction in the abrahamic god, though, this is often the main motivation for people to become atheists/agnostics for those that believe the abrahamic god is not logical. I am a rationalist. If i thought the abrahamic god was illogical, I can assure you I would not worship the abrahamic god. however, I would not become an agnostic. i am convinced in the existence of the eternal mind.
@MementoMori88 agnosticism is not necessarily atheistic, and so it would be part of that person's worldview different than the atheistic worldview, though not necessarily all that different in the grand scheme of thing. perhaps i am confounding the terms, but at least you know I"m not saying that atheism/agnosticism is anything close to what most people think of when they use the term religion. is it really that absurd to believe there probably was a horse with a mere horn on its head?
@carlsonap16 the evidence is there that unicorns at least existed. what is the evidence? the wide number of tales discussing the existence of unicorns would indicate that there was some basis for the unicorns being real. why would someone make up a story about a unicorn having one horn? it isn't even a significant. it is very likely to have been true. the most likely explanation for a non-mystical unicorn would be that there probably was a unicorn.
@MementoMori88 I did say in the video that atheism is not necessarily a religion, but is always part of a greater religion (the totality of that person's philosophical views). and about the buddhist being an atheist, I agree, the buddhist atheist is often much different in their philosophy than other atheists. there is a wide range of just what exactly atheists are, because as you said, atheism isn't only what they are about.
@carlsonap16 The Revelation of Peter, I consider Scripture, teaches different punishments of sinners. So, an atheist who was a murderer would receive greater punishment than an atheist who was a thief. Likewise, an atheist who otherwise lived a morally perfect life would receive lesser punishment than the antinomian religious person who grossly sins. I do not Scripture to tell me this, it is obvious purely by logic and reason.
@carlsonap16 Also, Scriptures do say that the greater knowledge about Elohim, the greater ur punishment 2 Peter 2:20-21 "If they have escaped the corruption of the world by knowing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and are again entangled in it and overcome, they are worse off at the end than they were at the beginning. It would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than to have known it and then to turn their backs on the sacred command that was passed on to them"
@MementoMori88 Religion: "A religion is a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, especially when considered as the creation of a supernatural agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs." note that it says that religion is a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe (do not atheists have beliefs about these things?)
@carlsonap16 and note it says "especially when considered as the creation of a supernatural agency or agencies". it uses the word especially to indicate it general is the case that it is referring to creation by supernatural agency, but the word especially also indicates that it does not always refer to supernatural beings creating of even existing. also, as I said in the video, atheism has a wide variety of meanings because it is a wide philosophical category. I believe in the existence of
@carlsonap16 unicorns, though not magical unicorns, just horses with horns on their heads, as this is not absurd or ridiculous at all. also, I believe that Zeus was not simply made up, and that he was a real being, but not someone who should be worshipped. thus, i do believe in the existence of Zeus. And I do not believe in the existence of the sphagetthi monster because it is a parody never intended to take seriously and an ultimate being in my view could not possibly have a body.
@carlsonap16 all these beliefs certainly influence my perspective and philosophy on life. your denial of unicorns, zeus and the sphagetthi monster demonstrate your perspective on life, though it does not mean your perspective is necessarily any more meaningful than someone who believes in unicorns, zeus, or the sphagetthi monster. all i am saying is that every belief contributes to your philosophy or worldview of life. in scripture, it says that there will be a lot of atheists in the last days.
@carlsonap16 scripture does NOT say that some atheists will receive lesser punishment. sorry if i made you think this. Scripture does teach that the more wicked a person is, the more that person will be punished. Scripture also teaches that the more knowledge a person has about Elohim, the more accountable that person is to Elohim. However, nowhere in Scripture does it say that atheists will receive lesser punishment. I reached this conclusion by using logic and reasoning. i am a rationalist.
Religion: belief or worship of a god. or, a particular system of faith or worship. See dictionary. Only Christians go to hell.. They invented it. Just like sinning. I never hear atheists talk about sinning. They have no god to disappoint. Sad aren't they.
wondergundy 11 months ago
@wondergundy Those that deny the laws of morality are worse (thus more evil) than those that deny God.
carlsonap16 9 months ago
@carlsonap16 To what laws of morality are you refering? By what standard are you preaching? Are you some kind of evil expert?
wondergundy 9 months ago
@wondergundy I'm referring to the eternal uncreated laws of morality that God also is obligated to follow otherwise He will go to hell. They are the laws that everyone is able to know by perfectly utilizing logic, philosophy, honesty, confidence/acceptance/faith, and opendmindedness.
carlsonap16 9 months ago
oh... by the way... i what i read is called TaNaKh :) you might try it sometime. it's quite a bit better than an english bible translated to hebrew, lol
GodsArePeopleToo 1 year ago
so busy pointing at everyone saying 'you're not what i think you should be, you're lost!' that you forget it's your own eye you gotta get the beam out of before worrying about someone's splinter, lol, and the nt was not written in hebrew. all you can get for a hebrew nt is a translation from english translated from greek. only nt hebrew text was matt which is STILL being worked on to translate back. and don't forget who jesus hung out with :) it's the 'sinner' who enters heaven b4 the hypocrite
GodsArePeopleToo 1 year ago
there's no such thing as non hypocritical judging from a hypocrite :) and the first commandment is to HAVE no other gods before him, lol so who's misquoting there. nowhere in the law jesus supposedly followed does it say atheism is a sin. in case you missed it, jesus changed the law making him anti-torah and eligible for death. by the way, the comment to any hypocrite he makes is as a warning to people who act like hypocrites :) judge not, lest ye be judged, lol
GodsArePeopleToo 1 year ago
@GodsArePeopleToo The passage is referring specifically to hypocrites: ie, those that have planks in their own eye, worrying about others specks. read the passage, you'll see i'm right.
I'm not misquoting. Its calling textual criticism. You are reading an english Bible when what was commanded was written in Hebrew, NOT english. Your conclusions are not linguistically justified.
The Messiah did NOT change any part of the Law. We are to keep EVERYTHING in the Law.
carlsonap16 1 year ago
oh, and one more thing :) you say atheists sin for not believing while you worship a god other than the one who gave the command about worshiping OTHER gods lmao and not knowing what kind of lifestyle any one atheist has, you're judging? um... what did jesus (the one you claim to follow) say about judging? do you know?
GodsArePeopleToo 1 year ago
@GodsArePeopleToo We are all "gods", & we are told to not worship gods [as 1 would worship Yahuwah], not that we r 2 not worship gods. Even if an atheist was perfect in all other areas of life, if he's an atheist, he's a sinner, for any1 is a sinner if they sin, even the smallest sin,& atheism is a sin.u also misquote the Messiah.The context is referring 2 hypocritical judging,not nonhypocritical judging. If it were referring 2 nonhypocritical judging, We'd have 2 reject that book as Scripture.
carlsonap16 1 year ago
atheism is a single position on a singular issue. there are no doctrines, no tenets, no rituals, no gods, no superstitions, no commandments, no imaginary friend in the volcano, no blood sacrifice, no chosen people, no holy texts, none of the bullshit you have in theism. atheism is nothing more than a response to theism 'i believe in god'... 'really? i don't'. if atheism is a religion, christians have millions of religions for all the gods they don't believe in
GodsArePeopleToo 1 year ago
why do u believe in hell?
why do you believe in god?
why do u believe the bible offers a correct description?
When and how...at what point did you decide the bible was accurate? was it the timothy passage that said all scripture is inspired? If so, up until you read that, did you not think it was from god?
did you decide that it was from god before you read anything in it because someone else told you it is (or they believed it is)? did u go in agreeing with it all along...or was there a point?
MyNonBelief 1 year ago
@MyNonBelief I believe in hell because I believe in a just God, someone who punishes the wicked for their sins. I believe it is wrong to let unrepentant sinners off the hook. It makes a mockery of true righteousness. It is a great sin. I believe it is wrong to not punish unrepentant sinners. I believe it is wrong to give unfair punishments to sinners. That is why I believe in hell, because every sinner gets what they justly deserve in hell.
carlsonap16 1 year ago
@carlsonap16 I believe in God, because it is philosophically absurd to suggest God does not exist. I also believe the evidence for God in addition to the philosophical proof is greatly abundant. I believe the Bible offers a correct view of God because of the evidence that the Bible has in favor of its authenticity.
carlsonap16 1 year ago
@carlsonap16 I decide to myself through logical analysis and reasoning what is and is not Scripture. I consider about 200 books to be Scripture, much more than the people who blindly accept the Bible in its current corrupted form.
carlsonap16 1 year ago
@carlsonap16 again...at least you are honest...YOU decide yourself what is and is not scripture (if scripture is meant to be "from" god).
And u see once YOU decide, then that is a subjective opinion...not objective fact. And the deal is...u have hit on the head the whole ISSUE that arises w/ religion...1st, the jews knew what was and wasnt scripture...THEN the jews for jesus knew what was scripture (or more accurately, the 1st council of nicea), then muslims, then martin luther,then joe smith
MyNonBelief 1 year ago
@carlsonap16 philosophically absurd to suggest god does not exist??? Please explain how non belief is philosophically absurd...or point me to a video or blog where you have already suggested this.
The evidence for god? Which god?
The evidence the bible has in favor of its authenticity????? Wait...eye witness accounts TODAY are not reliable...much less 2nd, 3rd, etc hand accounts....Not to mention the mixture of "divine inspiration" and things impossible to have been known.
MyNonBelief 1 year ago
@carlsonap16 "because it is philosophically absurd to suggest God does not exist."
No, it's absurd to suggest one exists.
humanistheart 1 year ago
@humanistheart provide a philosophical argument that proves otherwise. My videos in my channel that is about philosophy. the ones that are about absolute truth and the mind. those prove that a god must exist.
I decide what is Scripture based on the objective evidence, and not based on subjectivity.
carlsonap16 1 year ago
@carlsonap16 All you said was it's absurd to think a god doesn't exist, you provided zero evidence and zero reasoning. Where's your argument?
humanistheart 1 year ago
@humanistheart its in two of my "philosophy" videos, where i demonstrate because absolute truth exists, a god must exist.
carlsonap16 1 year ago
@carlsonap16 Yeah, that's just silly. Get back to me when you have some facts, rather than really bad opinions.
humanistheart 1 year ago
@humanistheart did you even watch the videos? i am sure you didn't.
carlsonap16 1 year ago
@carlsonap16 In other words, no, you have nothing to support you.
humanistheart 1 year ago
@humanistheart watch the videos, and you will see.
carlsonap16 1 year ago
@carlsonap16 ONCE AGAIN, what is this the 4th time? You fail to provide anything to support your claims.
humanistheart 1 year ago
@humanistheart once again, what is this the 4th time? watch the videos and you'll see. if you have already watched the videos, you obviously failed in your understanding of simple logic. I prove through absolute truth, mind, and holism that a necessary mind must exist, and a mind is the same thing as a god in my definition, so since a necessary mind must exist, therefore, at least one god has always existed.
carlsonap16 1 year ago
@carlsonap16 You do no such thing, and you're inability to provide any reasoning here only supports that. But I'm sure you'll just claim it for a 5th time while still refusing to list any evidence or logic.
humanistheart 1 year ago
@humanistheart did you watch the videos? you never said you did, so i've simply assumed you didn't watch the videos. If you watched the videos, why don't you clarify this so that I can understand what you are saying. You can't just discredit me without even listening to my arguments. If you have listened to the arguments and still hold your position, that is another issue entirely.
carlsonap16 1 year ago
@carlsonap16 but why...why do u believe in a just god...bc u want there to b one? bc u believe the bible? what is the basis for yr belief? do u think that society shouldnt have prisons bc god will take care of them LATER? u are not born with that belief...that idea has to be presented to you, then u have to decide whether to say yay or ney...why do u say yay? thank you...thank you for using i believe throughout...at least u r intellectually honest. u didnt say there is a hell...u said u believe
MyNonBelief 1 year ago
@MyNonBelief Indeed, one has to wonder what kind of 'justice' allows for women to be raped, for children to be abused, for people to be enslaved, or for mass genocides and infanticides to occur. Calling the christian god good is a perversion of the word.
humanistheart 1 year ago
@humanistheart thanks for agreeing.... i have found that religion SEEMS to, on the surface, have the or at least an answer for almost everything.
But if u just ask questions, or look at it from a different perspective,drop certain assumptions, the answers religion tends to give just dont hold up.
I still to this day do not understand pple who dismiss the notion of adam/eve being real people, but dont follow the logic...no adam eve, (all stories COULD be BS), then no sin, then no need for JC
MyNonBelief 1 year ago
@MyNonBelief And they tend to think 'sin' is 'wrong' but it has no moral connotation what so ever. Sin's just whatever their god doesn't care for at the momment, so why should someone need to 'atone' for it? Imagine if humans acted like that. "What, you like the GIANTS?!? No, I'm a Dodger fan, you must atone for your transaction against me!" No, it's insane.
humanistheart 1 year ago
@humanistheart agreed...and i do not understand why theists have such difficulty in realizing that we dont need a set of 10 cmmndmnts or god to know that people dont like other people stealing their shit.Non religious,atheists,babies, hindus, buddhists, etc all share a very territorial animalisitc trait...if it aint yours, leave it the fuck alone or there will be consequences here and now. one of many things theism tries to take credit for in their god's name.I wont let theists get away with it
MyNonBelief 1 year ago
@MyNonBelief It's funny, christians love to talk about the 10 commandments, but they ignore most of the hebrew bible's laws, so why would those be any exception? Plus they ignore the fact their god doesn't follow his own commandments. That's what's called a hypocrite.
humanistheart 1 year ago
@humanistheart im not a christian, in that i follow all the bibles laws, and do ignore them. i dont eat unclean food, and i do everything the bible commands me to do in its proper context. i keep all the feasts. i believe the Law of Moses is to be followed by all people. I am what you call not a hypocrite. you might think me crazy, but at least i'm consistent in my religion.
carlsonap16 1 year ago
think about any of the moral implications i do as an active atheist.
and i find most peoples actions are based off of no being hassled. not wanting to fuck up their life. in fact, i would say that materialism is a major reason for morality.
what happens if you do something illegal (which usually or sometimes coincide with morality (though thats subjective not objective))...you get your shit taken away.l your freedom...your tv, your home...your friends, family...your privleges, food all your stuf
MyNonBelief 1 year ago
i am just starting to listen to your post...so u may go into more detail...if u want to call it religion,fine. i take religions as having some deity involved...& i would call things belief systems instead of religion,if u want to go there.but vegans is a belief system...they act based on that thinking.atheletes live their life based on athletics...that coudl b their rel...fine.
but do not confuse an active atheist & a passive atheist. most people i talk to dont care. they go to church but dont
MyNonBelief 1 year ago
@MementoMori88 will do. i also have many other videos, and at some point, perhaps i will respond to some of your videos.
carlsonap16 1 year ago
@MementoMori88 please note that when I said there was scientific proof, I was not referring to this website i shared with you, but something I remember reading a long time ago, but can't find, and is possible i misremember.
this website provided to you as you said offers explanations for how it could be feasible to exist. and yes, i don't believe in macro-evolutionism, so i see no problem with that =). I appreciate this dialogue you have been doing with me. shalom.
carlsonap16 1 year ago
@MementoMori88 i must admit i can't find the reference again. however, i did find a website that offers scientific explanations as to how it could work. i was pretty sure i remember reading about a komodo dragon being able to breathe fire, but I could very like be wrong about this. my mistake. the website i would link you too, but youtube doesn't let me post links in comments. try searching "advanced dragon description" and click the website that says dragnix
carlsonap16 1 year ago
@MementoMori88 i must admit i can't find the reference again. however, i did find a website that offers scientific explanations: The breath weapon of a dragon is not a magical thing that spread out of no-where but had a more scientific explanation. When we eat our body by digesting created a gas know as Methane (CH4), dragon unlike human and other animal store this gas into another kind of "lung" that will serve as a bag/canister to held the gas that will be later mixed with
carlsonap16 1 year ago
@MementoMori88 i must admit i can't find the reference again. however, i did find a website that offers scientific explanations: "The breath weapon of a dragon is not a magical thing that spread out of no-where but had a more scientific explanation. When we eat our body by digesting created a gas know as Methane (CH4), dragon unlike human and other animal store this gas into another kind of "lung" that will serve as a bag/canister to held the gas that will be later mixed with
carlsonap16 1 year ago
@MementoMori88 I believe that animals used to talk before the fall of man. they no longer do talk. however, I do believe that animals can and do sin, as I am a biblical animist. I believe animals have souls and spirits, and also Mother Earth is alive and has a soul and spirit, and the sun and moon also have spirits. I can't really prove the sun and moon have spirits and souls outside of scripture, but this belief about the sun and moon isn't that important anyways.
carlsonap16 1 year ago
@MementoMori88 also, mermaids are also not unfounded. the reason? have you ever heard of genetic hybridization? i do not believe mermaids are natural animals, but offspring of artificial processes, of genetic hybridization (angels coming down, having sex with humans and those hybrid humans having sex with animals).
carlsonap16 1 year ago
@MementoMori88 there is a good reason suffering exists. there is a good reason to allow evil. animals did not arise out of macroevolution or any other of the higher evolutionary processes. now, as of this point, it is only me saying to you that these things are simply not true about real life and thus the abrahamic god offers no logical contradiction, only to the ones that impose contradictory things onto the being that were never intended to be imposed.
carlsonap16 1 year ago
@carlsonap16 i hope to make some videos addressing those things in exhaustive detail.
carlsonap16 1 year ago
@MementoMori88 dragons are not unfounded. why do you think dragons are represented in fast amount of cultures that were from far distances from each other? the reason is that there was an actual creature very similar to a dragon that existed. is a dragon any more absurd than a dinosaur? a dragon is a very dinosaur like creature. further more scientifically it is proven that there are animals capable of breathing fire from their mouths. & finally, bible teaches dragons are real, so i believe it.
carlsonap16 1 year ago
@MementoMori88 it is more absurd to believe that someone created the idea of a unicorn. it is also possible that dinosaur fossils were planted to trick us into thinking dinosaurs actually existed when they didn't, but I do not believe in something that is clearly absurd. It can only logically be that either it was another animal mistaken for a horse that had a horn or that it was an actually horse that had a horn. However, I am convinced unicorns existed, because the Bible says unicorns existed.
carlsonap16 1 year ago
@MementoMori88 i don't see a problem that most atheists are agnostics.
i do not see any logical contradiction in the abrahamic god, though, this is often the main motivation for people to become atheists/agnostics for those that believe the abrahamic god is not logical. I am a rationalist. If i thought the abrahamic god was illogical, I can assure you I would not worship the abrahamic god. however, I would not become an agnostic. i am convinced in the existence of the eternal mind.
carlsonap16 1 year ago
@MementoMori88 agnosticism is not necessarily atheistic, and so it would be part of that person's worldview different than the atheistic worldview, though not necessarily all that different in the grand scheme of thing. perhaps i am confounding the terms, but at least you know I"m not saying that atheism/agnosticism is anything close to what most people think of when they use the term religion. is it really that absurd to believe there probably was a horse with a mere horn on its head?
carlsonap16 1 year ago
@carlsonap16 the evidence is there that unicorns at least existed. what is the evidence? the wide number of tales discussing the existence of unicorns would indicate that there was some basis for the unicorns being real. why would someone make up a story about a unicorn having one horn? it isn't even a significant. it is very likely to have been true. the most likely explanation for a non-mystical unicorn would be that there probably was a unicorn.
carlsonap16 1 year ago
@MementoMori88 I did say in the video that atheism is not necessarily a religion, but is always part of a greater religion (the totality of that person's philosophical views). and about the buddhist being an atheist, I agree, the buddhist atheist is often much different in their philosophy than other atheists. there is a wide range of just what exactly atheists are, because as you said, atheism isn't only what they are about.
carlsonap16 1 year ago
@carlsonap16 The Revelation of Peter, I consider Scripture, teaches different punishments of sinners. So, an atheist who was a murderer would receive greater punishment than an atheist who was a thief. Likewise, an atheist who otherwise lived a morally perfect life would receive lesser punishment than the antinomian religious person who grossly sins. I do not Scripture to tell me this, it is obvious purely by logic and reason.
carlsonap16 1 year ago
@carlsonap16 Also, Scriptures do say that the greater knowledge about Elohim, the greater ur punishment 2 Peter 2:20-21 "If they have escaped the corruption of the world by knowing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and are again entangled in it and overcome, they are worse off at the end than they were at the beginning. It would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than to have known it and then to turn their backs on the sacred command that was passed on to them"
carlsonap16 1 year ago
@MementoMori88 Religion: "A religion is a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, especially when considered as the creation of a supernatural agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs." note that it says that religion is a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe (do not atheists have beliefs about these things?)
carlsonap16 1 year ago
@carlsonap16 and note it says "especially when considered as the creation of a supernatural agency or agencies". it uses the word especially to indicate it general is the case that it is referring to creation by supernatural agency, but the word especially also indicates that it does not always refer to supernatural beings creating of even existing. also, as I said in the video, atheism has a wide variety of meanings because it is a wide philosophical category. I believe in the existence of
carlsonap16 1 year ago
@carlsonap16 unicorns, though not magical unicorns, just horses with horns on their heads, as this is not absurd or ridiculous at all. also, I believe that Zeus was not simply made up, and that he was a real being, but not someone who should be worshipped. thus, i do believe in the existence of Zeus. And I do not believe in the existence of the sphagetthi monster because it is a parody never intended to take seriously and an ultimate being in my view could not possibly have a body.
carlsonap16 1 year ago
@carlsonap16 all these beliefs certainly influence my perspective and philosophy on life. your denial of unicorns, zeus and the sphagetthi monster demonstrate your perspective on life, though it does not mean your perspective is necessarily any more meaningful than someone who believes in unicorns, zeus, or the sphagetthi monster. all i am saying is that every belief contributes to your philosophy or worldview of life. in scripture, it says that there will be a lot of atheists in the last days.
carlsonap16 1 year ago
@carlsonap16 scripture does NOT say that some atheists will receive lesser punishment. sorry if i made you think this. Scripture does teach that the more wicked a person is, the more that person will be punished. Scripture also teaches that the more knowledge a person has about Elohim, the more accountable that person is to Elohim. However, nowhere in Scripture does it say that atheists will receive lesser punishment. I reached this conclusion by using logic and reasoning. i am a rationalist.
carlsonap16 1 year ago