The Legend of Sleepy Hollow (Part 9 of 10)

[cadechang]

Ummm..........................­........

[seanalexanderdurand]

does anyone else find that gag at :42 extremely hard not to laugh at?? the squeaky sound is a perfect touch too hahahah

[xSeiGx]

9:30

"JENNKEYYS!! its brom!"

"and i would have gotten away with it too if it weren't for u meddling kids!!"

[GTVAlfaMan]

Why would they film this in the mountains of Utah instead of a New England setting?

[TheBookWorm1718]

Man, if I ever meet Jeff Goldblum I am going to ask him if he remembers doing this movie. This was the first thing I ever saw him in and still every time I hear his name my first thought is Ichabod Crane, so I wonder if he has any memory of it or if it's too far back from all the other stuff he's done.

[Attila709]

@TheBookWorm1718 I feel very much the same way. If a biography on his life ever comes out I would buy it just to read what it says when he made this film.

[honeybee908]

After watching Sleepy Hollow with Johnny Depp, this seems boring to me...

[Artisan1979]

7:07 The appearance of the REAL Headless Horseman totally saves this movie. The music that occurs after Ichabod turns his head back forward really makes this scene work. It leaves open the possbility that Ichabod really WILL die this night. Before it was just for laughs, but now... I'm just glad the ghost went after Brom.

[burtonrules123]

@Artisan1979 the music in this movie is actually very well done. but i gotta admit i always get goosebumps when the real horseman appears. its so cool!

[Sisyphus27]

What does Winthrop Palmer have against the Headless Horseman?

[steveclips]

@Sisyphus27 He chased him into river that's what. And he didn't know it was Brom then.

[Avankiri]

I feel sorry for Dick Butkus. His parents must have been real bastards to name him Richard...Or is Butkus actually pronounced "Butt-kiss"?

[Wh3nYour3Strang3]

3:48- 4:29 "Must go faster."

[1942PANTHERV]

this was a nice take of the tale..when i first read the story...i had the feeling bram bones had something to do with ichabods disappearance.....in this the real headless horseman was tired of the fake using his name...and decided to teach him a lesson..and even felt sorry for ichabod..and helped him get together with katrina....

[steveclips]

Fritz said never to laugh at the headless horseman, so it is a bad idea to dress up like him in his woods.

[Attila709]

thank god this was made during a time when even B actors still had to act good

[sweetpea1577]

Well none of these versions end like the book.

[TherealRNO]

sweetpea: Certainly not. But it depends on which version you stand to believe...one where the headless Hessian really does exist or one where Brom is dressed as a faux Headless Horseman.

[steveclips]

Don't you think that Brom Bones deserves to be hit with a pumpkin other than Ichabod?

[TherealRNO]

@sweetpea1577: Well, the book has an open-ended ending so that people who believe in the legend--for example, decendants of the old Dutch settlers who inspired Irving's tale--could continue relaying it.

[steveclips]

Who would have guessed that the real headless horseman would appear and chase Brom through the woods? I wish that happened in the Disney version. Wouldn't that be funnier?

[TheJediCharles]

I prefer Disney's version that we're left to wonder if it isn't Brom in disguise. The ambiguous nature of the ending is better than it "clearly" being a haunt.

Granted, in the Disney version, there are parts (staring down the ghost's neck) that makes it appear stronger that it's not Brom, artistic license could be allowing us to see through Ichabod's distorted sense of reality through fear.

IMO.

Anyway, I prefer stories being less direct and leaving more to the viewer to interpret.

[raerae1281]

My favorite is still, hands down, the 1999 version with Johnny Depp. It's just a perfect movie, from the atmosphere of the town to the characters to the way the plot runs to the imagery. It's still a mystery as to who is controling the horseman, if anyone, and the ending is really cool. JD plays Ichabod so perfectly and it has that tongue-in-cheek humor thrown in. There's a bit where they're being chased by the Horseman on a coach and JD tries to strangle the hroseman, lol.

[TheJediCharles]

Well, I enjoyed the Depp version, particularly in regards to the production values and darkness.

However, I didn't at all like how the evil spirits were vanquished by mortals. That's the way with Hollywood these days, that the urge to give things a tidy, conclusive ending is over-represented. I prefer supernatural horror that the best one can expect is escaping with your life, not destroying it.

While there are expections, if a mortal can destroy it, it wasn't supernatural to begin with

[TherealRNO]

@TheJediCharles: Agreed. The Horseman is not meant to be destroyed. The legend lives on, because he does. In the original and in most variants of the tale, the Hessian is supposed to win, because humans are not supposed to control the supernatural, being that the supernatural belongs to an intangible world beyond our mortal realm.

[TheJediCharles]

A good example of the difference I'm trying to explain is the difference between Poltergiest and Amityville Horror. Both are good films, I liked both, both are haunted houses and similar generally. However, one of them "was conquered" the other "barely escaped from." In Amityville, frankly the house won.

I prefer those, personally.

[TheJediCharles]

BTW, what I mean by "conquered" I mean that Caroline was rescued from hell on a rope in defiance of an obviously powerful evil spirit, and the entire source of the haunting was revealed and "resolved".

Amityville in comparison was left far more unresolved, far more mysterious, and no of the mortals attempts to "push back" had any effect on the spirits at ALL.

Far spookier to me.

[SharkKid42]

i like that one to it was good

[burtonrules123]

@raerae1281 i do love the 1999 version, but this is like the cute funny TV movie version with jeff goldblum. i like this one slightly more because i had been watching it long before i saw the tim burton version. this shows you dont nmeed all that blood and violence to be a good fun enjoyable movie. i dosagree though about jphnny depp, he was nothing likie the ichabod from the book whereas goldblum was. he wasnt even a schoolteacher, completely different character. but it worked for the film.

[raerae1281]

@burtonrules123 Well, see, I never read the book, I just enjoy the 1999 version for what it is (see my comment from before). I think there's just enough blood and gore without going overboard. I'm a big Tim Burton fan anyway so the look of his movies is awesome and he brought that perfectly to making Sleepy Hollow creepy even when the horseman wasn't around (which actually wasn't that much except near the end). To me, this version just... drags....

[burtonrules123]

@raerae1281 i know what you mean but there are so many movies today where the visuals are just madness and this is just a cute funny talewith some scareiness and i love watching jeff goldblum cuz he is funny and great in almost everything he does. the depp version does indeed have wonderful atmosphere and is obviously much scarier but this version had its moments where it was creepy as well. i just love both versions but this one i have more of a sentimental feeling.

[raerae1281]

@burtonrules123 *shrugs* Then that works for you. I'd never seen this before, so the 1999 version to me is like the staple, just as this one is to you.

[steveclips]

Don't you think that Brom Bones deserves to be hit with a pumpkin other than Ichabod?

[TheJediCharles]

Well, I suppose. But I'm not talking about "deserve". I'm addressing what makes a more compelling drama, a more riveting thriller, and true to the original.

There isn't supposed to be justice in Ichabod's life. He draws on our sympathies, but that's exactly what makes the Legend of Sleepy Hallow what it is.

Basically, an American "Greek Tragedy" in horror form.

[cbolanz]

possibly yes

[steveclips]

It could be why he chased Brom insread of Ichabod.  Most villains go after the ones who make fun of them.

[Artisan1979]

@steveclips I totally agree. See how fast he took off? Today someone in Ichabod's place would be like "HEY DON'T YOU LEAVE ME HERE WITH THIS SHIT!!"

[amycallie123]

@steveclips Yes, I do. How he was treating Ichabod in front of Kritina all the time.

[TherealRNO]

@TheJediCharles: I'd rather it BE a haunt, because some still actually stand to believe in the legend in order to retell it. If it was just Brom in disguise, then the story just seems flat, whereas it being a real undead ghost from the depths of Hell makes it scarier and far more compelling, since the supernatural is not meant to be explained.

[steveclips]

Why dosen't Brom fall off his horse when the pumpkin hits him.

[steveclips]

I'm glad the horseman only hit Brom instead of Ichabod with his jack-o-lantern.