Bill Johnson - Convergence School of Supernatural Ministry

[goldmakers]

The worship of men! Interesting how they grab a name "sozo". It has no relevence to the ministry of the Holy Spirit in the New Testament. But like all heavly advertised hype, it has has to have a root in the Bible. To bad they didn't listen to the prophets today who are speaking of the return of the Lord and the need to repent.

[deathcabfan87]

Love good old Bill Johnson. I thank God for this man who was willing to suffer through the ridicule to stand up for the truth of the gospels.



[denoinwa]

Praise you God for Bill Johnson!!! God you did an incredible thing by creating, nurturing, and teaching your servant so that he in turn could pour your revelation into the church. Thank you for your faith through him that extends beyond the cultural, religious boundaries of our present Christian culture with regard to the miraculous and the supernatural. Thank you for the haters and the ignorant as they continue to affirm his ministry.

[bvandebunte]

the last comments are ridiculous. bill johnson teaches the gospel of Jesus Christ in saving lost souls. he teaches humility, repentance, coming to the cross, and dying to ourselves. never does he teach we are "gods"...where do you come up with such lies? He is a man living for and dying for just one thing, Jesus Christ, and Him crucified, that through Him all men might be brought to Himself.

[alzy77]

im not sure how you can get that Bill is taking pleasure in "unrighteousness"

why not just pray for God to sort out false teachers rather than bickering back and forth over the matter? the fact that you would cast shame on someone shows you not to have received the love of Christ.. He came to take away shame not cast it on others.

[MyGodIsEternal]

This man does not teach the gospel of Christ saving the lost souls. Nowhere in his teaching does it talk about humility, repentance of sin or coming to the cross and dying to ourselves. He teaches the opposite of what Scripture says---that we can be 'gods' and do our will and falsely claim it is God's. I believe and have received true healing. But this Word-Faith/Prosperity gospel is a money-making scam. Steer clear of Bill's heretical teaching---he does not teach from Christ.

[tjmcbryan]

wow you guys are intense, and both so quick in your foolishness, one says the other has lost his salvation and the other says that the one is of the anti-christ/satan.

Sounds like a win win situation if you ask me. I wish all my discusions and debates were like these. so productive edifying equiping and Christ honouring.....

Lord have mercy on us, please!!

[lastoldlady]

And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand. 8 Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give. I't s time to get busy!

[RLF777]

Shame on you Bill Johnson~

"The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness."

[MrPastorc]

John 14:12 "In solemn truth I tell you, anyone believing in Me shall do the same miracles I have done, and even greater ones, because I am going to be with the Father. You can ask him for anything, using my name, and I will do it,TLB

Obviously Jesus believes and insists that we must perform the same miracles He did! Not all signs are lying signs only the ones not performed in His NAme. We should do greater miracles than He did! Bill simply agrees with Jesus unlike most people. Blessing!

[livenfree]

Oh yes the evil one will do signs and wonders to deceive even the elect if it were possible. But do you think he will do them in the name of Jesus? And will he direct people to put their trust in Christ's righteousness? No I think he will direct them to worship him! He will deny Christ "The anointed one". That is why he is called the Antichrist. God has done signs and wonders since the beginning. He is supernatural. He is Spirit.He is God. Nothing is impossible for Him.

[livenfree]

So is it not dangerous to say anyone doing anything supernatural is of the evil one? I fear we become like the religious leaders who accused Jesus of casting out demons by the prince of demons.

[jestanixon]

@RLF777 you got things right have you secondly that scripture refers to false people doing signs not christians

[MrPastorc]

I am in His Image and Likeness. So I am like my Daddy and in His Image. Here is the Hebrew meanings;

Likeness= OT:1819 damah (daw-maw'); a primitive root meaning; a comparative figure ; by implication, to exactly resemble,

Image= OT:6754 tselem (tseh'-lem); meaning to shade; a phantom, i.e. (figuratively) illusion, resemblance; hence, a representative figure or replica Does that sound like He was serious about us closely resembling Himself? I am far from being Him but I am a close replica!

[MrPastorc]

Do you see the fruits of the Spirit in Bill? I do. I see in that man more love, joy, peace, patience, kindness. gentleness, self control. and longsuffering than in anyone else I have ever met. I know he would not be on here blasphe,ing you even though you shoot at him he would bless you and love you. That says to me a little bit about the depth of character and maturity in different believers. I want to be more like Christ and Bill because he carries the heart and attitude of Jesus!

[MrPastorc]

So you are saying that all who are his sheep are not Christians? If not then why do they raise their hands in worship to Jesus Christ? I have never heard Bill mention any other God than Jesus Christ or Jehovah have you? I am wondering because I know how much you say he is worshiping a false god so I need to know if you have ever heard him say that there is another god than Jesus. If not then i advise you to stop saying that Christ is a false God because Jesus is the only One True God.

[Godrulezsatandrools]

@MrPastorc I wanna be more like Christ

[MrPastorc]

I agree bro I do as well! Bill is one that not only believes in being like Christ but tries his best to be as much like Jesus as possible. If we are to be like Jesus then we need to do the things He did. As a matter of fact look at what John 14:12 says, "In solemn truth I tell you, anyone believing in me shall do the same miracles I have done, and even greater ones, because I am going to be with the Father. You can ask him for anything, using my name, and I will do it,TLB

This is our standard!

[MrPastorc]

It is a sad thing to see people that call themselves by His Bane shooting at brothers with such sarcasm. Do you honestly believe that Christ would speak of anyone with the manner of speach you use? I am convinced when I hear people trying so hard to discredit someone that they are convinced the person is legitimate. Would you argue that tye sky is not blue? Why? Because it is a ridiculous argument. Obviously you believe that Bill is more of a man of God than you care to admit.

[mysticfishers]

I sure do pray God forgives you. If you haven't blasphemed the Holy Spirit yet, you're sure on your way.

Repent, for the Kingdom of God is at hand.

[tjmcbryan]

blaspheming the holy spirit is denying the ministry of the holy spirit which is to glory Christ Jesus as God, not to slander the real or even so called gifts of the spirit.

Whilst I think the above poster (tspenley3) needs to grow up and learn how to earnestly contend for the faith by combining the truth in Love, you tell him he is losing his salvation by cause of some imature criticism is just as bad if not worse.

You guys need to fix up and stop being so proud, this is crucial!!! Pax

[2tires]

Tspencley, Paul went to the where "freely they received and freely gave" and the leaders were not getting rich by minstring a twisted message.

[2tires]

Also Mysticfishers don't you realize that cults like Jehovah Witnessees and even "new agers" focus on a part of the scripture and make a declaration about what it means but it is OUT OF CONTEXT and therefore not what the true message of the text is conveying. READ PAGE 134 IN "WHEN HEAVEN...He that gathers not with me scatterth. Scroll down on the comments to 2 months ago and look for my comment that starts with - Man I am tired of seeing scripture twisted .... I explain this in that comment.

[mysticfishers]

2tires, you sure do seem heated. too bad you're coming against someone who's a man of God that has good fruit in his life.

the only fruit i've seen from you is strife and contention and slandering someone you don't know. I know him personally, and you're wrong.

[ryanvicars]

the one jesus opened..... for like 3years....

[dustinmbox]

Errrr, Paul wasn't one of Jesus' disciples.

[tjmcbryan]

how is this the proof of being saved by God? Please explain. I'm not against tongues but don't see how you must speak in them to evidence the indwelling of the holy spirit, this is false.

[mysticfishers]

:)

Going to a John Scotland meeting. It's going to be sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet.

I'll have a tasty impartation for you when I get back.

-The Kid

[mysticfishers]

God's love isn't experiental.

ROFL!!!!

That's why He bids us to taste and see that the Lord is good.

Ummmm..... read the Song of Solomon, and then get back with me.

Not until then, young pup.

[mysticfishers]

God would never call him a false teacher. Why? Because God is Bill's friend.

Look at the fruit of Bill's life. It's good fruit. I went to his school and was changed forever... I was led closer to Christ.

If someone wants to toke the Ghost, praise God. If that act of faith draws them to a closer relationship with Holy Spirit, than who are you to try to stop it? People want to love their Creator in a tangible and experiental way?

GOD IS EXPERIENTAL. HELLO??

sorry, your theology bites.

[mysticfishers]

no.... tommy is just a womanizer, adulterer.... nice fun stuff like that. and, he's full of depression and anger.

yes, he's gifted, but he's not lifting up the name of Jesus Christ. Look at Angus Young, he's super talented as well. But, he said himself that when he gets onstage, another spirit takes over.

Here's a clue: it's not the Holy Spirit.

Soak in the presence of God. Receive His love. Quit bashing His kids. He hates it, and you don't know what you're talking about.

[mysticfishers]

how do you know my foundation isn't in the Word?

I've given you plenty of scripture, and if you go to my page, there's nothing but word edifying God on it.

[mysticfishers]

no, I'm saying the preachers who you listen to that are backed up with a guitar and double bass. bands preach a message, whether it's for Jesus or against Him.

Jesus said:

Luke 11:23

He that is not with me is against me: and he that gathereth not with me scattereth.

[2tires]

Man I am tired of seeing scripture twisted. Luke 11:13-26 has to do with demon posession, so the verse you quoted has to do with someone who was posessed. So as logic has it, Jesus was talking of a satan posessed Judas & the disciples prophetically.

He that is not with me, betrayl. So Judas commited suiside, he stopped gathering converts with Jesus. The disciples took off out of fear, scattereth.

I bet Bill taught you how to use this verse this way. Just like he does in his crummy book.

[mysticfishers]

you've a problem, and it's not with Bill.

to anyone who wants to be superblessed, read "when heaven invades earth".

or, you can harden your heart like 2tires and become a hater of God.

[2tires]

If you wanna get into it I can site you place after place in Bill's book, "WHEN HEAVEN INVADES EARTH" where the bible messege is rejected by Bill and twisted to mean something entirely different..

How dare you accuse me of hating God. I oppose Bill's message because I beleive the scriptures to be sacred. By extracting meaning from verses that are out of context you are in effect adding to the scriptures. There is a warning in Rev. 22:18 about "adding". Rightlhy divide the word. 2Tim 2:15

[mysticfishers]

Jesus said that if you hate us, you're hating Him.

[mysticfishers]

you know, Bill is one of the most well respected leaders alive today.

and for you guys just to hop on a bandwagon and blast him.... I feel like weeping. I wonder what this is doing to God's heart?

Lord, have mercy on these people acting like blind guides.... like the scribes and pharisees of old who killed You.

[mysticfishers]

you don't know me.

I used to listen to the same depressive music you do. I've been to hundreds of concerts. And, you know, I thought they were posing when they talked about the devil or about how depressed they were.... I thought they were just branding themselves to markert to a certain genre.

Blind Melon.... all of that.... their words, I just excused them and said they weren't important.

You don't like my preacher, Bill Johnson? Well, your preachers preach what hell preaches. death.

[mysticfishers]

so, in essence, you've no clue and you're just popping off demonic insults because you've nothing better to do with your time.

when, in all actuallity, bill's teaching of the scriptures would revolutionize your life.

still waiting to here specific heretical teaching examples from you that bill has supposedly taught.

[mysticfishers]

ok..... so, let's listen to some tommy lee and smashing pumpkins.... let's get drugged out and depressed and just soak in satan's kingdom.

or, maybe some nirvana.... yeah!!!!

don't you know there is a spirit that led kirk cobain to commit suicide, and that it wasn't the Holy Spirit that Crowder tokes?

Just because you don't understand his relationship for God, don't discount it and get all religious. Especially if your groundwork needs a little tweeking, eh young one?

[mysticfishers]

also, I see by your music faves that you know a great deal about the anointing.

[mysticfishers]

what heretical teaching does Bill have?

[2tires]

Have you read Billy's "When Heaven invades Earth" Book? It is full of out of context bible verses or he just reads into scripture what ever he wants it to say to prove his point. It is scary, I hope and pray he discovers his error and repents.

Page 29-He says Jesus performed miracles not as God. Because if He did them as God they would not be unattainable for us. Page 66-Jesus expected the disciples to calm the seas themselves. In stead he had to do it.

OH PLEASE! READING INTO THE TEXT

[mysticfishers]

Jesus came to earth as a man. He needed the Holy Spirit just like we did.

Also, the disciples had been with Jesus long enough to know they weren't going to perish. He told them He'd see them at the other side. So, if anything or anyone else tried to tell them otherwise, they should have activated their faith.

Whatever is not faith is sin. Were they in faith? If so, their actions would have been different.

Thankfully, even if only momentarily, Peter activated his faith.

[mysticfishers]

you don't know Bill Johnson. If you did, you'd repent.

Don't you think you should know someone before you call them new age or a heretic false teacher?

You should fear God, and touch not God's anointed, and do His prophets no harm.

[RLF777]

"But Peter said to him, "Your money perish with you, because you thought that the gift of God could be purchased with money!" (Acts 8 v20)

[RLF777]

Do not be deceived, can one purchase the spiritual gift of prophecy ? Can we pay a T.V. pastor, or pay to go to a seminar, or supernatural ministry school to become one ? I wonder how , when it is God who decides who gets what gift "But one and the same Spirit works all these things, distributing to each one individually as He wills." (1 Corinthians 12, v 11)

[hitthejesusbong]

Agreed. You can never purchase a gift of the Spirit. Schools like this are meant to activate you in your spiritual gifts, which God has given to each person. Impartation through teaching and preaching, as well as laying on of hands is a helpful Biblical practice

[RLF777]

At what price my Brother ?

[mysticfishers]

I went to Bethel's School of Supernatural Ministry last year, and God did more in me in one year than I could have ever expected.

RLF, aren't you weary of not really knowing the power and love God has for you?

[bethyprincess]

Yay! I love you Bill!

[Sarah221]

woohoo pappa bill