P4P Boxing, Pound 4 Pound Boxing News & Mailbag 11-17-11

[SAINTLOKE]

lol pacquaio did not beat marquez clearly in the second fight were marquez was the champ this guy sucks with glasses get guru in their anthony this foo is clearly a pacquao fan and not a boxing fan...u cant be fukin up decisions all because his the champ thats stupid marquez wins a round and because pacquaio is the champ he takes it??????

[DeadliestArt]

The majority of those punches that "landed" weren't even flush. They missed completely, glancing shots or landed on the glove. Compubox made Pacquiao look more impressive than he was. I scored the fight 116-111 or 115-112 at the very least for Marquez.

[serpakovski]

Pacquiao clearly beat Marquez,he landed 145 punches to the head and Marquez only 90!

[fredizzle23]

Pacquiao 33 Mayweather 34 i dont want to see this fight they will be 33 and 35 next year why would you want to waste your money if they arent in thier primes anymore

[TheJrak47]

the guru(your daddy) was wrong! chavez jr kicked manfredo jr ass!

[babyfaceassassin21]

you should have listen to your own opinion and your own decision.. during your round 4 round video that you posted as well you are said you think the fight was a draw and now you think marquez won?? LOL.. why not just stick on your scoring? because you heard ondelahoya,lewis and tyson that marquez got robbed???? LOL.... you posted that video and it proves that you're a liar.... or you can't decide for you ownself...... people can easily change your mind... atleast the other guy is consistent

[kiaba360]

This dude said that Marquez has to "come a little more prepared to beat him.... they're not gonna give you the win if you make it close"

You've GOT to be kidding me. Isn't Boxing a combat sport with 2, TWO men in the ring? You act like Marquez is fighting with an inanimate object lol. Pacquiao isn't a bum, he doesn't get KO'ed in every fight, he has good stamina and a solid chin. Marquez shouldn't have to stop him to get the victory, he did worst, he EMBARRASSED him,

[kiaba360]

@kiaba360, and exposed Top Rank's questionable match-making. They were trying to get Marquez on the decline, and they STILL couldn't get the job done. Pac went in the ring as a loser, and he left the fight a loser.

[snakei01]

It was a close fight but if you r coming to beat the best u gotta get a knock out n when pacquiao fights mayweather he will get destroy plain n simple

[quentinball23]

@p4pboxing You lack the knowledge to even give your opinion about the sweet science of boxing. You dont have to knockout someone to actually win a match. And thats what you were claiming Marquez had to do. Marquez deserve to win all three fights because he won more rounds, he made Manny fight his fight, and landed the cleaner shots. Thats how you determine a winner of a fight. I guess your a Manny fan.

[p4pDonP]

@quentinball23 - Look man, reality is I have ALWAYS said that Marquez beat Pacquiao look at the videos we made back in 07 or 08. ANd anyone that has seen our videos knows I HATE MANNY.  NEVER been a fan. Even in this fight we stated that we thought Marquez won. But the record books clearly state otherwise and thus the question we asked what can be done to change the way scoring is done.

[25Blaq]

Wats good guy I want to know y didn't talk about the big story wit mayweather vs manny and y manny didn't take the fight hidding beyond bob and roach we need real videos talkin the truth not talkin around khan call mayweather out because manny camp needed him to get the heat off them fuckin cowords

[p4pDonP]

@25Blaq - Don't worry if the fight for a 4th jmm vs mp fight comes through we will bash. PBF has the location, and date all MP has to do is bring it. If not I will go in on him.

[mirellale]

The problem with boxing is ppl that don't know a shit about boxing jumps on the bandwagon, making websites and videos. If u never been in the ring u don't know shit about the sport!

[p4pDonP]

@mirellale - What do you know of me not being in a ring? actually had you been a follower from the begining you would know, that we have trained, just I was not a fan of getting hit. I know my limitations. lol But I think its funny though, that a guy that favorites half the videos of MP on youtube goes to a boxing channels and trys to bash the people critiquing his idol. If u don't like what we have to say go back to watching MP vids with your bottle of vaseline and release your fustrations

[mirellale]

@p4pDonP U not knowing shit about boxing sort of makes it easy to se ur at ur peak of ur boxing career done some fitnes boxing tops. Ur the root of the problem boxing has. Ppl who don't know shit about the sport who all of a sudden switches to boxing and start trolling. In ur retarded fan world everyone's got an idol. U think boxing is like collecting pokemons where everyone has a idol u wank of to. Do boxing a favour and switch back to whatever u did before boxing!

[p4pDonP]

@mirellale - The fact that you even referenced pokemon lets me know that your about 15 yrs old, and lets me know I have been watching boxing longer than you have been alive. And again I urge you if you don't like our show, we have fathered over 10 shows take your pick and watch we don't need you to watch here. But the reality is we are the most entertaining and you are hooked and will keep coming for that crack! lol

[mirellale]

@p4pDonP Now why the hell would a boxer listen to ppl who don't know shit about boxing is talking about boxing. Hey Neil Armstrong! Judging by ur comments I'm like older than u and let's me know I''ve been watching the sky a bit longer than u. Sort of make's me the expert astronaut huh... Good one dumbfuck!

[p4pDonP]

@mirellale Well the only other thing I Know well other than boxing is your Mother, but I doubt you want me to talk about that on here, so fall back, watch the show and learn a thing or two while in the process!

[quentinball23]

The guy with glasses dont kno shit about boxing

[p4pDonP]

@quentinball23 - and your knowledge of boxing makes you the bible of boxing? c'mon son...

[luqchina]

THE GREATEST ROBBERY OF ALL TIME...NOW THEY ARE DUCKING MAYWEATHER!!!

[p4pDonP]

@luqchina -of course bobby boy dont want to cash in on his money cow just yet.

[Tunichi16]

"MARQUEZ THE MAN WHO THINK HE BEAT PACQUIAO 3X" WAHAHAHA....

[p4pDonP]

@Tunichi16 - Marquez the man that was mugged of a win 3 times.

[p4pDonP]

@Tunichi16 - Even Roach, Ariza and Khan thought Marquez won.  That is why they are pushing for a 4th.

[floopehobaloobie]

Great Post! That was a good fight! Marquez won on ferocity and heart! Top Stank want's to make another bout with Pac vs JMM instead of Floyd! and Floyd's ducking?! I am riding with Cotto I hope he whips "Hands of Plaster" ass! Jr. Has to step it up if he want's to be taken seriously, his father was a real champion by 25! I can't wait until Moreno vs Darchinian and Mares vs ambeko 2! One!

[p4pDonP]

@floopehobaloobie - Agree with everything you said and I can't wait for Moreno vs Darchinian and Mares vs ambeko 2

[lilman10009]

I will be there.. Carloscruz10009@yahoo.com

[p4pDonP]

@lilman10009 - Damn Carlos did you read the news. They said this fight is like 99.99% canceled and moving to new location because Margarito couldn't get licensed. I have a day of trying to get my money back for things I paid for 2 months ago.

[bakikok]

welcome back doug hehehe!well said:)Even amir khan thinks marquez won but after he watched the fight again he said manny won the fight....

[p4pDonP]

@bakikok - lol CON is CONfused! lol

[MrFNWO1]

GOD Dam I had 8 rounds to 4, for JMM, I still think JMM should off put it on a lot more in the last 2 rounds, he is right but Bob is clever there is going to be a JMM vs Mannywackeyo again in 2012 then a Floyd fight, I'd rather see Floyd fight Sergio then put a beat down on Manny and the world can move on. I'm going to go with Peter just because I like the guy more than Julio.

[p4pDonP]

@MrFNWO1 - PBF beats down MP all day not close, and I agree the world can move and see something better. ANd I hope Manfredo pulls off the upset.

[LukePettit]

10 judges. 5 ringside, 5 with monitors no commentary. Bigger sample size therefore more of a fair test.

[p4pDonP]

@LukePettit - YES YES YES!!! This is how it should be scored! Alli in favor say I. IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII!!!!!!!­!!!!!!!!!!!

[PhilliesFn4Life]

U guys r right chavez jr is the biggest hype job, but close 2nd is c alvarez..the guy doesnt block for shit once he faces a big puncher with skill its lights out

[averyctlimo]

@PhilliesFn4Life our a counter puncher like mayweather ;) ohhh my i can only imagine lol

[p4pDonP]

@averyctlimo - LOL

[p4pDonP]

@PhilliesFn4Life - yeah jccjr is a Hype job, but i believe c alvarez is more skilled than him. Maybe not by more only time will tell but at least alvarez is willing to take a step up in opposition while jccjr has stayed is the same platform. Cintron former champ. Manfredo former realtiy star.....

[PhilliesFn4Life]

@p4pDonP sry bout the thumbs down i meant to put thumbs up...but ur right bro he is more skilled then jcc...i wish he would of fought cotto i would of loved to see cotto detroy jcc...but keep up the good work anyways...glad u guys r back!

[p4pDonP]

@PhilliesFn4Life - thank glad to be back. Yeah man I thought cotto deserved a gimme fight after Margartio and Pacman and thought it would have been sweet to see jccjr get bullied but the boxing gods had other plans. lol

[PhilliesFn4Life]

@p4pDonP lol yea i agree...hopefully Martinez takes the trash out by destroying jccjr

[KASHLAMDA]

how dumb was prescott ...had the fight...and gave it away...welldone alvarado...marquez fought great and much better than everybody thought and has mannys number but still didn't push himself to win...after the first 2 fights i thought he wud lay everything on the line but he didn't...this was a good experience for pacquiao and a wake up call....before taking on mayweather...he needs to accept that he is fighting a different style and needs to start using his head alot more...

[p4pDonP]

@KASHLAMDA -LOL, I am with you i don't understand! Prescott had him and could have forced a rematch with Khan, but kuddos to Alvarado that showed a heart of a champ and came back. ANd I think with Manny its not so much he wasn't using the head movement. It was he was so frustrated he couldn't do anything that he stopped using it.

[taposa2000]

I don't think Marquez did enough to win. However, whatever Marquez does to Pacman is crazy. This guy has been destroying everything put in front of him for the past few years and Marquez changes him. I don't think the fight told us anything we didn't know. Pacman can be beat, we knew that. The question is can Floyd be beat? Actually, can Floyd be beat by Manny.

[p4pDonP]

@taposa2000 - I agree, I don't understand how pac dulldozed all these guys (Cotto, CLottey, Mosley, Margarito) and Marquez comes along and its like the brakes got pumped. That is crazy. I doubt Manny can handle pac, PBF is a bigger, faster, more accurate version of JMM.

[taposa2000]

@p4pDonP If I was a betting man, and I am, I would bet on Floyd. But if the Manny who was so aggressive against Margarito or Cotto comes to fight, it could be a shocker. Think about what Judah did to Floyd through the first half of that fight. Or Mosley through 2 rounds. Or Castillo. Floyd can be pushed and Manny can punch. I'd be shocked if Floyd walked through Manny. At this point I'm just sick of talking about it. They both need to shit or get off the pot.

[p4pDonP]

@taposa2000 - you took the words out of my mouth the both need to shit or get off the pot! Its coming to a point where people are gonna stop talking about that fight. like Roy Jones JR. & Dariuz Michallweski (probably butchered his name)

[KidGloves2112]

They should add a 9.5 to the 10 point must scoring system. If a round is razor close, but not enough to give a 10-10, then why not 10-9.5. If a fighter wins a round and its clear, then 10-9. If he scores a knockdown then 10-8 etc. In last weeks fight, Marquez won his rounds clearly, and the rounds Pac won could have gone either way. That's why there was so much dispute over the scoring. With a new scoring system, the razor close rounds for Pac would be 10-9.5.

[p4pDonP]

@KidGloves2112 - That is a good idea.

[666ThaScarecro666]

im not really that excited for Pacman vs floyd anymore. If its close the judges are gonna call a draw. I wish pac/floyd was a trilogy by now to be honest. If they wouldve first fought 3 years ago, and a rematch last year. Then one later if the series is tied or draw. But instead we get it dragged out till these guys have lost a step and see them in their mid 30s.

[p4pboxing]

@666ThaScarecro666 - The fight should have happened but politics prevented it from.  I doubt Manny wants anything to do with PBF and I know PBF is dying to get Manny in the ring.

[kayode29]

clear robbery! jmm won easily!

[p4pboxing]

@kayode29 - We felt JMM won as well, but unfortunately the record books won't reflect that.

[babyfaceassassin21]

@p4pboxing you also believe marquez won? pls removed your video titled "p4p boxing manny pacquiao vs juan manuel marquez 3 round by round" because the guy on the left scored the fight for pacquiao while the fat boy on the right scored it a draw...... and now you heard people saying marquez should won the fight you join them .... thats funny....im really sorry for you...... you're always rooting against pacquiao...... from diaz,hatton and delahoya and so on..... sorry bro pacquiao will always win