O soul, I long to perish. No more to live in anguish. Think you to comfort me, or give me solace, or from misfortune shield me, or give release from torment? O soul, I long to perish. No more to live in anguish.
No, she's not singing a wrong note. One never knows, it could be written that way. But most likely, Ms. von Otter simply changed that because she like that note better than what was written. Creative license is a wonderful thing.
I too hear these notes as creating an effect the genius Monteverdi would have wanted, even if they were not common in the musical practice (better, two practices) of the time.
The vast majority of us have never, ever seen the original piece of music. Much music is edited to suit the intent and desired purpose of the arranger.
And, in my not so humble opinion, I assert that she is not singing a wrong note. Baroque music is characterized by interpretations, ornamentations, and the like... each determined by the singer (in cases such as apoggiaturas) or by instrumentalists (chiefly basso continuo).
All in all, I think this is an excellent performance.
For all of you talking about Baroque music, think about this- many people sing this song from the 26 Italian Songs book, and that is a very edited and user friendly version. Performing Baroque music takes a ton of research. Also, ornamentation includes looser tempos and dynamic changes as well as note embellishments. As for tuning- it wasn't typically a half step sharp, it was more or less what each group agreed on until someone later came up with the standard 440hz for "A".
I am not ok with the timing...I am all for "artistic flourishes" but to me if it is WRITTEN to a set timing stick TO IT all these skipping beats and adding time where it is not supposed to be destroys the song.
I don't know this score or singer that well, but instrument tuning during the Baroque was generally about a half-step sharp. Maybe she's just trying to give a historical performance?
No, it is not historical to sing a half step sharp on some notes, a singer should be able to match the pitch without it being obvious that anyone is a half step sharp... pitch is relative, she should be matching the orchestra and instruments, but she is changing it dilibritely.
I am singing this piece on my recital as well. She is taking quite a few artistic liberties with this piece. Yes, according to this publisher, she is singing the "wrong" note; however, it happens a few times in other places throughout the piece, with rhythm too. Remember, Baroque is not always sung as written. Handel's "Messiah" is a great example of that. I feel that her artistic choices highlight the nature of the piece. She knows what she's doing. It's no accident.
Yes, iti s def. no accident, but such an interesting choice of liberties. You can argue that all genres you can add liberties, but one thing I have learned is to be careful with certainliberty... it does sound "interesting" the way she does it, yet beautiful.
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WRONG,WRONG, WRONG DAMN IT!!! it´s a c natural in the 4 compass. damn why almost everybody sing this wrong???see Kathleen Ferrier version. the c natural is MANDATORY! DAMN IT
dont you know your baroque music history? back then there wasnt much written down and alot of improvising inbetween depicted notes and adding of appropriate ornamentations.
Correct! It is not an ornamentation, it is a departure from what is written in the score. Out of the introductory pages of my Schirmer's Edition Handel's Messiah: "[Dr. Hugo Goldschmidt] writes, 'The essence of reproduction, to feel and re-create that which was felt and imparted by the creator, does not exclude - within natural limitations - the assertion of creative power." That excerpt comes after "The interpretation of their parts by the soloists is a different affair." Don't worry about it.
There is actually an original Monteverdi manuscript that has the line written as Ms. von Otter is singing it. Whether or not this was a mistake or not is up to interpretation. It does create a III+ with accompaniment though, and that's a bit out of character for the time.
YouTube must not like me speaking Italian when I'm in the States. Sorry, but do the search and you'll see the difference between the aria, the contrafactum, and the madrigal. This IS the complete aria, as you'll see.
For some reason, YouTube doesn't want me posting the whole truth about this aria, even if it's less than 500 characters, so I'll break it down into small pieces so even YouTube's servers can handle the truth.
the full version is about 10 minutes there is also sacred version about the lament of the virgin Marie about Jesus's death(same music,latin text) "Pianto della Madonna sopra il lamento d'Arianna"
you can check the full version here in youtube with the mezzo-soprano Anna Caterina Antonacci or with soprano Agnés Mellon
Almost haunting!
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Lasciatemi morire! Lasciatemi morire! E chi volete voi che mi conforte in così dura sorte, in così gran martire? Lasciatemi morire! Lasciatemi morire!
¡Dejadme morir! ¡Dejadme morir! ¿Y quién queréis que me consuele en tan cruel suerte, en tan duro sufrir? ¡Dejadme morir! ¡Dejadme morir!
Let me die! Let me die! Whom dost thou want to comfort me in such a harsh fate, in such great suffering? Let me die! Let me die!
Polluxgeminae 1 month ago
Sung this in school :)
loverofdarkmusic80s 5 months ago
¡Hermoso!, todo lo que interpreta Anne Sofie es increible
ceci323lia 6 months ago
ahh on my score sheet the translations are:
No longer let me languish!
No longer let me languish!
What dost thou fancy can stay one moment,
So unrelenting anguish?
No longer let me languish!
No longer let me languish!
dangsoo1 7 months ago
lovely
dangsoo1 7 months ago
O soul, I long to perish. No more to live in anguish. Think you to comfort me, or give me solace, or from misfortune shield me, or give release from torment? O soul, I long to perish. No more to live in anguish.
lindsayeichhorn 1 year ago
This seems to cleary be recitiativo, maybe even ealry accomp rect.????, but not a full out aria.
acduckett 1 year ago
La mejor versión, sin duda! Me encanta esta mujer :)
Kyryukun 1 year ago
i'll make sure to do that on my GEORGIA ALL-STATE audition in which first auditions will be held here in CORDELE,GEORGIA
raquelblue67 1 year ago
She is inspiring
230river 1 year ago
what a wonderful voice. thank you for the video.
Nibelungenfrau 1 year ago
hm. neat how there's a major chord on the word 'comforte' at 0:38
b0ttomzone 1 year ago 2
In the text is written "che" both times.
jesarsa 1 year ago
"key"=chi, "who" in italian.
"que"=che, "that" or "what" in italian.
The line makes sense in both cases, I don't know which is the correct one in the original lyrics.
abetone 1 year ago 5
@abetone Its che in the original lyrics.
E che volete che mi conforte
bustamove2222 1 year ago
@abetone
In my book it says this:
Let me die! What would you have comfort me against such a harsh fate, in such great suffering? Let me die.
And an other version where it says:
Leave me to die and what you want that me it should comfort in such hard fate in such great suffering. Leave me to die.
GaaraBabyEater 1 year ago
does anyone know why von Otter says "key" @ :31 then "que" @ :36 instead of two "que"s?
khbsflabhklsrblfauhk 2 years ago
Nice! I wish she'd do the whole piece, though.
BethDiane 2 years ago
No, she's not singing a wrong note. One never knows, it could be written that way. But most likely, Ms. von Otter simply changed that because she like that note better than what was written. Creative license is a wonderful thing.
199022008 2 years ago
I too hear these notes as creating an effect the genius Monteverdi would have wanted, even if they were not common in the musical practice (better, two practices) of the time.
freestylefan1 2 years ago
Whoa... forgive me. I meant to say "figured bass" in the place of "basso continuo".
Sorry. =)
PianoMusic37 2 years ago
The vast majority of us have never, ever seen the original piece of music. Much music is edited to suit the intent and desired purpose of the arranger.
And, in my not so humble opinion, I assert that she is not singing a wrong note. Baroque music is characterized by interpretations, ornamentations, and the like... each determined by the singer (in cases such as apoggiaturas) or by instrumentalists (chiefly basso continuo).
All in all, I think this is an excellent performance.
PianoMusic37 2 years ago 2
For all of you talking about Baroque music, think about this- many people sing this song from the 26 Italian Songs book, and that is a very edited and user friendly version. Performing Baroque music takes a ton of research. Also, ornamentation includes looser tempos and dynamic changes as well as note embellishments. As for tuning- it wasn't typically a half step sharp, it was more or less what each group agreed on until someone later came up with the standard 440hz for "A".
haveacorndog 2 years ago
I am not ok with the timing...I am all for "artistic flourishes" but to me if it is WRITTEN to a set timing stick TO IT all these skipping beats and adding time where it is not supposed to be destroys the song.
cdw0205 2 years ago
It's camerata fiorentina, not Bach it has a continuo bass under the voice, it should be free.
queruz 2 years ago
again Beautiful
lovevic52 2 years ago 4
she sings it sharp everytime
stefne0110 2 years ago
I don't know this score or singer that well, but instrument tuning during the Baroque was generally about a half-step sharp. Maybe she's just trying to give a historical performance?
NadarCosainAmber 2 years ago
No, it is not historical to sing a half step sharp on some notes, a singer should be able to match the pitch without it being obvious that anyone is a half step sharp... pitch is relative, she should be matching the orchestra and instruments, but she is changing it dilibritely.
stefne0110 2 years ago
aumentada--- I agree with you. I am performing this piece on my recital, and it is not ornamentation she is singing, but indeed the wrong note.
stefne0110 2 years ago
I am singing this piece on my recital as well. She is taking quite a few artistic liberties with this piece. Yes, according to this publisher, she is singing the "wrong" note; however, it happens a few times in other places throughout the piece, with rhythm too. Remember, Baroque is not always sung as written. Handel's "Messiah" is a great example of that. I feel that her artistic choices highlight the nature of the piece. She knows what she's doing. It's no accident.
Silasbenjamin 2 years ago
Yes, iti s def. no accident, but such an interesting choice of liberties. You can argue that all genres you can add liberties, but one thing I have learned is to be careful with certainliberty... it does sound "interesting" the way she does it, yet beautiful.
stefne0110 2 years ago
this is probably one of my favorite beautiful songs in the world. I love the beginning.
lovevic52 2 years ago
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WRONG,WRONG, WRONG DAMN IT!!! it´s a c natural in the 4 compass. damn why almost everybody sing this wrong???see Kathleen Ferrier version. the c natural is MANDATORY! DAMN IT
aumentada 2 years ago
What are you talking about?
olialto7 2 years ago
when? (min:sec)
evtanoxx 2 years ago
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aumentada 2 years ago
0:19
aumentada 2 years ago
dont you know your baroque music history? back then there wasnt much written down and alot of improvising inbetween depicted notes and adding of appropriate ornamentations.
manwithemeraldeyes 2 years ago
she is not singing ornamentation there though, I am performing this on my recital, and she is indeed singing the wrong note
stefne0110 2 years ago
Correct! It is not an ornamentation, it is a departure from what is written in the score. Out of the introductory pages of my Schirmer's Edition Handel's Messiah: "[Dr. Hugo Goldschmidt] writes, 'The essence of reproduction, to feel and re-create that which was felt and imparted by the creator, does not exclude - within natural limitations - the assertion of creative power." That excerpt comes after "The interpretation of their parts by the soloists is a different affair." Don't worry about it.
Silasbenjamin 2 years ago
There is actually an original Monteverdi manuscript that has the line written as Ms. von Otter is singing it. Whether or not this was a mistake or not is up to interpretation. It does create a III+ with accompaniment though, and that's a bit out of character for the time.
maddentimothy09 2 years ago
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aumentada 2 years ago
YouTube must not like me speaking Italian when I'm in the States. Sorry, but do the search and you'll see the difference between the aria, the contrafactum, and the madrigal. This IS the complete aria, as you'll see.
stavinchain 2 years ago
For some reason, YouTube doesn't want me posting the whole truth about this aria, even if it's less than 500 characters, so I'll break it down into small pieces so even YouTube's servers can handle the truth.
stavinchain 2 years ago
Forget it. Do a search for arianna lamento and you can find out there that this is the complete aria.
stavinchain 2 years ago
Very beautiful performance and wonderful song. Unfortunately this is only the beginning of the whole aria.
Rumburak81 2 years ago
superbe
anselmej 2 years ago
this is the song i have to sing 4 my chouir compatation!!! im only 13 also!!
theusedrocks13 3 years ago
not kidding!!!!!!
theusedrocks13 2 years ago
Interpretazione perfetta. Bravissima. Grande cantante!
giusalu 3 years ago
The color of the voice is beautiful!
Too bad that there is not the full version
Heartlessiceboy 3 years ago
this is the full version. its a very short song. 1 page of sheet music
Bigwhocares01 3 years ago
No, this is not the full version.
the full version is about 10 minutes there is also sacred version about the lament of the virgin Marie about Jesus's death(same music,latin text) "Pianto della Madonna sopra il lamento d'Arianna"
you can check the full version here in youtube with the mezzo-soprano Anna Caterina Antonacci or with soprano Agnés Mellon
Heartlessiceboy 3 years ago
beautiful!
cantantesmexicanos 3 years ago
Brava!!!Bella voce!!!
bailharico 3 years ago
Preferisco l'Antonacci: sicuramente la linea di canto è meno impeccabile, ma ha tutt'altra altra tempra d'artista!!!
ludwigna78 3 years ago
Brava! Bellissima voce e ottima pronuncia, sembri quasi italiana. ;-)
laurion69 3 years ago
eccelsa
enantiodrom 3 years ago