@yankseatiraquibabies What does it matter for crying out loud? You don't know anything about this guy. I could never understand why people feel a need to act like jerks on the Internet. I've had a few people call me a liar except I called them out on it. I offered a wager of $1,000.00 that I could prove what I said. They shut up real quick. There's no reason to be nasty here. This video has a remarkably nice model ship and I love building model ships. So hush up.
@HelmutVillam Trying to supplement their carriers I guess. All I ever saw of this ship was one picture of it being bombed at my local library with a short description. It was mid-nineties though hadn't really got internet yet, thank god for some dude named Helmut. lol
@HelmutVillam The point she became a BBCV she did have planes, but this was at the time Japan lost all of their great aces and Ise ended up with under qualified pilots. If she ever did luanch any they were probably shot down, and if they were then she wasn;t going to get any more bc after they lost their aces they lost all of their CV aircraft.
By WW2 Fuso and Yamashiro were rarely used anyway, but maybe if they had been alongside Ise and Hyuga at Surigao Strait, they may have given the old American Battleships a tougher time.
@HelmutVillam Highly unlikely! Japanese Battleships at the Battle of Surigao Strait was massacred without doing ANY DAMAGE to US Battleships and Cruisers. Not only couldn't acquire a firing solutions, but couldn't even see the enemy in a darkness. Never even fired back
@HelmutVillam "Ise and Hyuga at Surigao Strait, they may have given the old American Battleships a tougher time" if you mean from just "target practice" to "extended target practice" all they would have done there is let the Pennsylvania get a chance to fire her guns
Result would have been the same with more targets for the old USN BBs to shoot at
@DaDeathProject - No question about it. Surigao Straight was an ambush that with radar-assisted US guns, REAL torpedoes and (i.e. ones that worked) and support ships swarming the area, 2 more Japanese BB's (sort of) would have just been 2 more wrecks on the bottom before dawn.
Another video about great IJN BB's, nice. If I was Japanese, I wouldn't refit the ship to a carrier-battleship. I would rather stay on a powerful salvo of 12 380mm guns...
Great videos... and surprising many of you have right knowledge about IJN. FYI, later in the war names of a river were often referred for ships name as well.
@chrysanthos66 but i gues they had to scrap em due to the war debt, but atl east find all the japanese wrecks from world war 2, sure we found the yamato, the biggest battleship, and some of the other bb's, fusos, kongos, nagatos, but how about the ise or the carriers? we found part of kaga near midway, but we need to find ALL 4 japanese carriers sunk at midway, they all are part of history and we need to find them and the other japanese wrecks from world war 2!!!!!
Neither Ise nor Hyuga escorted the Pearl Harbor Strike Force, as they did not have the speed to keep up with the carriers. Battleships Hiei and Kirishima were the escorting battleships.
thank you for the correction. looking back through the books I referenced, none of them mention either ship escorting the force, so I have no idea where I got that idea from.
@BMWM3GTRLOVER Only the four Kongo-class BBs were capable of speeds that allowed them to keep pace with the carriers. Not even Yamato and Musashi could do this, as their maximum speed was 27.5 knots. The four Kongos could do around 30 knots. Doesn't seem like a big difference, I know, but it is when the ship is part of a carrier screen.
@ijnfleetadmiral Kongo class proved to be the most useful of all the IJN capitals... I should imagine Amagi class would've been very good investments. 30 knots and 10x16 inch guns. Only Iowas and Renown could deal with them. Dangerous with suitably equipped early fleet carriers.
Awesome video, thanks for posting. My wife's uncle was on the Ise and I got to hear about the ship a lot. Sadly he is in the hospital dying now so I can't show him this :(
thank you for commenting, my respects to your wife's uncle. serving aboard a battleship always required a strong will and he must have been quite brave.
we should rebuild some of the old battleships that were scrapped. why didn't they save them to be mesuem ships? oh well, at least we got some of the later battleships like the iowa.
there were a number of reasons. Britain was bankrupted after the war and selling its battleships to the scrappers helped reduce debt, also the general public outlook was to forget the war and that included the tools it was waged with, like the battleships. as for Japan, its military was sanctioned and only Mikasa was allowed to be kept as a musuem ship. it is a tragedy how so few battleships survived, with all but of the remnants one in the United States.
My grandfather was a crew of this battleship when she fought the battle of Leyte Gulf as the flagship of Ozawa diversionary fleet. Ise was a quite beautiful battleship. Both sides fought bravely. I feel very sad many people died in the battle.
@Save8OurHomeland1993 Ise was a proud Battleship,in desperation the conversion to a carrier probly didn't do her any good.Did she ever carry a full compliment of aircraft?Interesting to ponder the results if Ise would of met up with Nevada or New Mexico.Such different ships for the same purpose
I think it was Japan's coveted 8-8 plan of constructing 8 Battlecruisers and 8 Battleships in the post-WW1 period which marked the doom of the IJN. For such a small country with limited resources, it could never hope to keep up with the Royal and US navies on a capital ship basis, but if it had put money and steel into developing purpose built fleet CVs rather than converting Kagas & Amagis or hastily building Hybrids like Ise, maybe the early war would have turned out differently.
@HelmutVillam Japan, turning away from it's relationship with Britian to allie with Germany,and then to antagonize the USA over Chinese intervention.Japan sufferd from very poor leaders[still does]The attack on P.Hbr,tacticly brilliant,strategicly a disaster,any knowledge of American history would of seen the outcome of uniting the yankees in a spirit of revenge dooming Japan
@yankseatiraquibabies What does it matter for crying out loud? You don't know anything about this guy. I could never understand why people feel a need to act like jerks on the Internet. I've had a few people call me a liar except I called them out on it. I offered a wager of $1,000.00 that I could prove what I said. They shut up real quick. There's no reason to be nasty here. This video has a remarkably nice model ship and I love building model ships. So hush up.
Thomas
tdfisk 2 months ago
should have been fighters on the deck instead of dive bombers
LYinKansas 2 months ago
@LYinKansas
there was never actually evidence that she ever carried any planes, let alone trained pilots, at that stage in the war.
HelmutVillam 2 months ago
@HelmutVillam Trying to supplement their carriers I guess. All I ever saw of this ship was one picture of it being bombed at my local library with a short description. It was mid-nineties though hadn't really got internet yet, thank god for some dude named Helmut. lol
LYinKansas 2 months ago
@HelmutVillam The point she became a BBCV she did have planes, but this was at the time Japan lost all of their great aces and Ise ended up with under qualified pilots. If she ever did luanch any they were probably shot down, and if they were then she wasn;t going to get any more bc after they lost their aces they lost all of their CV aircraft.
DaDeathProject 2 months ago
@yankseatiraquibabies
bullshit closer to my block button, imbecile.
HelmutVillam 3 months ago
She survived for so long, beating back superior American forces but at sea and aircraft. Not bad for a warship built at the end of WWI, indeed.
Wolfen443 3 months ago
@Wolfen443: And the USS Nevada was actually there at Iwo Jima, Okinawa and would've been there for bombardment of the home islands if needed
Oh yes, all after the Nevada was at D-Day and of course "sunk" at Pearl Harbor.
Not bad for an even older warship
sol3a1 2 months ago
i think when it comes ship there is no new or old its just plane and simple power...... yet you can simple say the power of tactics is a must..
12ock 4 months ago
No idea why they converted them into useless hybrids. Their place should have been alongside Fuso and Yamashiro.
MrCanopius 4 months ago
@MrCanopius
By WW2 Fuso and Yamashiro were rarely used anyway, but maybe if they had been alongside Ise and Hyuga at Surigao Strait, they may have given the old American Battleships a tougher time.
HelmutVillam 4 months ago
@HelmutVillam Highly unlikely! Japanese Battleships at the Battle of Surigao Strait was massacred without doing ANY DAMAGE to US Battleships and Cruisers. Not only couldn't acquire a firing solutions, but couldn't even see the enemy in a darkness. Never even fired back
ssmusic214 3 months ago
@HelmutVillam "Ise and Hyuga at Surigao Strait, they may have given the old American Battleships a tougher time" if you mean from just "target practice" to "extended target practice" all they would have done there is let the Pennsylvania get a chance to fire her guns
Result would have been the same with more targets for the old USN BBs to shoot at
sol3a1 2 months ago
@HelmutVillam ol' Jessie would have still won at Surigao though. Don't you think?
DaDeathProject 2 months ago
@DaDeathProject - No question about it. Surigao Straight was an ambush that with radar-assisted US guns, REAL torpedoes and (i.e. ones that worked) and support ships swarming the area, 2 more Japanese BB's (sort of) would have just been 2 more wrecks on the bottom before dawn.
vv55sst 2 months ago
@MrCanopius ;)
TheBByamashiro 3 months ago
＞この綺麗なCGカラー写真も自分で着色修正されたのですか？
newnanbu589 4 months ago
Another video about great IJN BB's, nice. If I was Japanese, I wouldn't refit the ship to a carrier-battleship. I would rather stay on a powerful salvo of 12 380mm guns...
m2mihulja 6 months ago
ANYONE KNOWS IF THERE IS A NO DEBRIS IN PLACE OF SHE SUNK ?
FOCKEWULFD9 7 months ago
Great videos... and surprising many of you have right knowledge about IJN. FYI, later in the war names of a river were often referred for ships name as well.
Thanks for posting.
diceaz2007 7 months ago
@chrysanthos66
Yamato and Musashi are names of ancient Japanese provinces, so no.
Exilninja 8 months ago
@chrysanthos66
The name of the BB was taken from the old states name or mountain.
Yamato, Musashi, Ise.....old state name. Kongo, Haruna,Hiei .....mountain name.
STATIONO 10 months ago
@chrysanthos66 but i gues they had to scrap em due to the war debt, but atl east find all the japanese wrecks from world war 2, sure we found the yamato, the biggest battleship, and some of the other bb's, fusos, kongos, nagatos, but how about the ise or the carriers? we found part of kaga near midway, but we need to find ALL 4 japanese carriers sunk at midway, they all are part of history and we need to find them and the other japanese wrecks from world war 2!!!!!
csgptg 10 months ago
my favorite Japanese BB ever... along with Hyuga
Thnks for posting
KotobKotob 10 months ago
Good Vìdeo!... Most interesting...
Typhoon945 11 months ago
The capability was 8 E16A Paul and 14 D4Y Judy, not 8 D4Y Judy and 14 E16A Paul
Citi2001 1 year ago
@Citi2001
seems wikipedia states the opposite but we all know how unreliable it is, I'll have to check some of my books.
HelmutVillam 1 year ago
Neither Ise nor Hyuga escorted the Pearl Harbor Strike Force, as they did not have the speed to keep up with the carriers. Battleships Hiei and Kirishima were the escorting battleships.
ijnfleetadmiral 1 year ago
@ijnfleetadmiral
thank you for the correction. looking back through the books I referenced, none of them mention either ship escorting the force, so I have no idea where I got that idea from.
HelmutVillam 1 year ago
@ijnfleetadmiral i heard Yamashiro did
BMWM3GTRLOVER 11 months ago
@BMWM3GTRLOVER Only the four Kongo-class BBs were capable of speeds that allowed them to keep pace with the carriers. Not even Yamato and Musashi could do this, as their maximum speed was 27.5 knots. The four Kongos could do around 30 knots. Doesn't seem like a big difference, I know, but it is when the ship is part of a carrier screen.
ijnfleetadmiral 11 months ago
@ijnfleetadmiral Kongo class proved to be the most useful of all the IJN capitals... I should imagine Amagi class would've been very good investments. 30 knots and 10x16 inch guns. Only Iowas and Renown could deal with them. Dangerous with suitably equipped early fleet carriers.
HelmutVillam 11 months ago
what does hijms stand for? btw does anyone know why the japanese marked their submarines with an i? i-1, to i-400 etc?
and dont say "bc the germans did it with a U" bc that U has a meaning? does the i?
SatoTM3 1 year ago
The Ise-class battlewagons were so much better-looking pre-conversion.
MacRaeWarrior 1 year ago 2
First class video! Great balance of photos and music to match. Are you planning on making any more on I.J.N. vessels? Keep up the outstanding work!
ManilaJohn01 1 year ago
@ManilaJohn01
thank you! I've also made a video of Fuso and am currently making one on Nagato.
HelmutVillam 1 year ago
Awesome video, thanks for posting. My wife's uncle was on the Ise and I got to hear about the ship a lot. Sadly he is in the hospital dying now so I can't show him this :(
jlistcom 1 year ago 5
@jlistcom
thank you for commenting, my respects to your wife's uncle. serving aboard a battleship always required a strong will and he must have been quite brave.
HelmutVillam 1 year ago
we should rebuild some of the old battleships that were scrapped. why didn't they save them to be mesuem ships? oh well, at least we got some of the later battleships like the iowa.
csgptg 1 year ago 3
@csgptg
there were a number of reasons. Britain was bankrupted after the war and selling its battleships to the scrappers helped reduce debt, also the general public outlook was to forget the war and that included the tools it was waged with, like the battleships. as for Japan, its military was sanctioned and only Mikasa was allowed to be kept as a musuem ship. it is a tragedy how so few battleships survived, with all but of the remnants one in the United States.
thanks for commenting
HelmutVillam 1 year ago 2
@HelmutVillam Thanks for posting.Good looking BB turned into a freak
bv141a 1 year ago
@HelmutVillam come on Texas,the last of so many
bv141a 1 year ago
My grandfather was a crew of this battleship when she fought the battle of Leyte Gulf as the flagship of Ozawa diversionary fleet. Ise was a quite beautiful battleship. Both sides fought bravely. I feel very sad many people died in the battle.
Save8OurHomeland1993 1 year ago 9
@Save8OurHomeland1993 Ise was a proud Battleship,in desperation the conversion to a carrier probly didn't do her any good.Did she ever carry a full compliment of aircraft?Interesting to ponder the results if Ise would of met up with Nevada or New Mexico.Such different ships for the same purpose
bv141a 1 year ago
@bv141a
I think it was Japan's coveted 8-8 plan of constructing 8 Battlecruisers and 8 Battleships in the post-WW1 period which marked the doom of the IJN. For such a small country with limited resources, it could never hope to keep up with the Royal and US navies on a capital ship basis, but if it had put money and steel into developing purpose built fleet CVs rather than converting Kagas & Amagis or hastily building Hybrids like Ise, maybe the early war would have turned out differently.
HelmutVillam 1 year ago
@HelmutVillam Japan, turning away from it's relationship with Britian to allie with Germany,and then to antagonize the USA over Chinese intervention.Japan sufferd from very poor leaders[still does]The attack on P.Hbr,tacticly brilliant,strategicly a disaster,any knowledge of American history would of seen the outcome of uniting the yankees in a spirit of revenge dooming Japan
bv141a 1 year ago
Fantastic photographs 5 stars
elswick1542 1 year ago 2