Okay guys, this is pretty simple to me. From time to time I like to conduct a little social experiment in rooms of mixed gender. I open the door for my fellow man and say "After you, mate". And then when the women come along in the line, I smile and say "Here you go", and gently release the door so that they have to hold it open for themselves. They don't like it. Personally I feel neutral other than my interest in observing their reaction. BTW The guys appreciate the extra manners towards them.
Chivarly towards women is best understood as a sub-topic of behaving like a gentleman. It is an outward display of basic manners and good character. It is not done to impress anyone; it is just a natural manifestation of your inward character. A gentleman doesn't show basic manners only towards women, but towards men as well. This is because "preferential treatment" and showing deference to others are two completely different things.
I am living proof chivalry is dead . I am 18 . I spent my child days thinking I will treat women with such respect I will never hurt them and always protect them . I reached adulthood and saw how spiteful , sexist and deluded western women are and now i commit to never allowing a bitch in because they will just fuck me over then leave with all my money . I also learned that even though my morals were exactly what they want , if I didn't make the first move I would never show them .sluts
Some (i.e. not all) women use chivalry to manipulate men. One one hand, they want to be treated like princesses/goddesses and get pampered by guys. On the other hand, they want to be treated as equals like other men until the going gets rough. Once a man calls her out on something, he's being an insensitive jerk.
I respect everyone (men/women), but refuse to put someone on a pedestal because they have breasts and a vagina.
I have a strange problem when I'm chivalrous. I don't know why, but everytime I open doors for women in my mind I think "wow this women probably thinks I'm doing this just so I can talk to her or start some sort of relationship". Who knows what's going through her mind. It's just that I always think something negative. Hopefully I'm wrong.
Chivalry to one because of gender... not really in my book. I hold the door open for anyone/everyone. I even let others eat first at home, regardless of their gender. Chivalry in the middle ages was due to prevailing beliefs that we should've outgrown by now. That said, the way things are now, few on either side are actually treating the opposing side with respect. A gender-neutral chivalry needs to be started... showing it in the media would probably be a good way to start.
look at these guys. they are ugly doormats with no game. these are the type of guys that women marry after they've fucked the hot bad boys when they were hot, and when the women are old, sexually used up, broke, single mothers.
Chivalry is dead because women took it for granted!
The generosity of men is completely unappreciated by women and men KNOW IT! We all know guys who are over the top in the way they give to some selfish, manipulative, controlling woman who uses and takes everything she can get from him until she send him to an early grave! A woman is not entitled to a man's generosity just by her very right of birth alone! Make her earn it or walk away.
I'm a girl and I agree with you. Women have killed it, I like men who are chivalrous and I appreciate it but I don't bother to complain like most women who are because I know that women are the one's who killed it in the first place not the men.
In the old days a true gentleman was expected to hold open doors and even die to protect a ladies virtue or even a slight against her reputation..BUT in return, a lady was expected to not cut her hair, drink, smoke or have sex before marriage. So while there may not be many gentlemen, there are even fewer real ladies in the world.
Chivalry died because many men choose to quit doing nice things for women, because many of those women stopped showing appreciation for it. It stopped generations ago so you can't really blame people now a days. If it's not taught it cannot be learned. People in general are rude. How often do you even hear "please, thank you, and excuse me" anymore?
posession? a girl is her father's RESPONSIBILITY, not posession. Untill the lady is married, her father is her protecter and provider. he's not gonna be there for her forever so the responsibility needs to be passed on. When the man asks the father for her hand, he's pretty much asking 'will you trust this responsibility to me?'. when the father gives her daughter at the alter he's saying 'I trust you, and I think you'll take good care of my little girl'.
In the words of Luda, I think a woman should be a lady in the street but a freak in the bed. Its irrelevant to me anyway, because i like thick, ugly women
Chivalry is endangered, and in some circles it is actively hunted. Somewhere along the way, women got the idea that flirting is bad and being chivalrous was flirtatious. It is, but since when was flirting such a horrible offense?
@trueswordsexpert0909 There is no such thing as "Equality" nor "Fair-ness" in this world. We can however try & protect everyone under same clause & rules. In reality things do affect it. -i.e. business will remain as it, people will try not to allow personal matters affect "Equality".
However, personal things come into affect at a personal level, (Not applied to all, and not excluding other features/characteristics)... i.e. Height, Sex, Race, Knowledge, Personality, Actions, etc.
@trueswordsexpert0909 There is no such thing as "Equality" nor "Fair-ness" in this world. We can however try & protect everyone under same clause & rules. In reality things do affect it. -i.e. business will remain as it, people will try not to allow personal matters affect "Equality".
However, personal things come into affect at a personal level, (Not applied to all, and not excluding other features/characteristics)... i.e. Height, Sex, Race, Knowledge, Personality, Actions, etc.
That's reality, not affecting general "Equality" in some. What I'm saying is, chivalry should be allowed, it is an opinion & a choice. Not yours for the matter & neither does it harm you, in my opinion.
And if this is true, I suppose your allowed to have your own opinion as well, shucks I forgot.
To women, you do kill chivalry sometimes and I don't have enough characters to explain. Don't assume the worst of actions of the good heart of men(males).
@davlor86 Well they can satanize us all they want not going to change my opinion of "chivalry", its nothing but an extremely sexist notion that favors women and leads to unfair treatment for the rest of us poor saps.
Look up VAWA, Title IX, or the upcoming SaVE law for what I mean of that.
being polite is good. Being polite to women for some reason gives you strange looks. Personally I love chivalry but when people make you feel awkward you just not gonna do it. Right?
I was raised to open doors, escort them in, pull out their seat, and many more things that deal with respect. Chivalry is not dead it is just a sort of lost art. The reason for that is most of the father figures today have either got complacent or have just forgot what their father and grandfathers have taught them about it. Being a member of the SCA. I am seeing a lot more of it coming back because of the way we have structured the guidelines and regulations.
@Knightsquire74 if it's respect by the very definition it's disrespectful if women don't do it. My husband didn't do any of that. He tried but once when he opend the door I walked directly to the next one and opened it. It's sexist. IF you love that so much how about when you get divorced your checks are garnished because hey. The man should pay for the women
Chivalry isn't dead. It was never born. Anyone who think that knights in the Middle Ages rescued damsels in distress left and right is very, very ignorant of history. Men are no different today that they ever were.
I don't understand why some women get angry when men hold open the door for them. It is not a discreet way of saying that men are physically stronger than women (Which is true, but besides the point), it's courtesy! Do you want it slamed in your face?
Luckily, this is strictly a US problem. There are countries where chivalry is welcome with open arms, where ladies want to be treated like ladies and gentlemen treat them as such.
The fact that men have to treat women better than they treat other men should make it obvious to women its just about sex and if they have a problem with that why wudnt a guy just be after sex if your required to be a slave to your partner. I think its nice to be nice to everyone, being nice to a girl and then not recieving the same treatment seems fucking stupid. just me perhaps.
Chivalry should be dead, it makes men treat women as their superiors with special treatment and rights, which could be one of the reasosn why men are facing as much misandry as they are right now.
A woman who expects men to be chivalrous to them, in reality do not support equality and rights for all.
wow, you're an idiot. do women race against men in the same heats? do they lift weights against them in the same heats? are there ANY unisex sports in the olympics beside equestrian? NO! why? because women are not at the same physical level as men! it's fucking science! testosterone>estrogen. gender roles? you're fucking stupid to even think that was a good argument
I was asked if I consider feminists stupid. In making the comment, this video was about chivalry. Personally, I'm not totally in touch with their needs nor am I anti-feminist. I did say that women appreciate being treated graciously. As a man, if a "feminist" wanted to hold open the door for me, I'd appreciate it!
Chivalry needs to die, men and women should be the same, Chivalry should never exsits, chivarly making women like weakling and not letting them do stuff that men can do, the world needs equality, not chivarly
@Assault912 R u a man? I'm guessing you're were born with a few people that gave you such examples as adults that u came to believe what you just said. I bet you get the cheapest sloppiest one night stands or the worst spouses in relationships that what you think leads to what happens in your life. What goes around comes around. If u act cheap, that's what you'll get back. Cheap treatment.
@Filipina84 I respect ladies way more than men. It's one reason and one reason only, men cause serious problems and keep pick on weak one (especially guys) in society while respecting ladies.
Most ladies respect the weak ones and understand them, every single goddamn time I got pick on by guys I always got protected by girls, so yeah, you have it. I won't give any respect to majority of the male community especially those one who like to show off and pick on weak ones.
@Assault912 : Women ARE physically weaker than men. Its evident from all the sports. Remember the time when the Williams sisters (who were the top female tennis players) lost to Karsten Braasch who ranked 203rd amongst men (6-2, 6-1).
@owenallan1 It's 21st century, you still think women should go back to the kitchen and make sandwich for you? Even Olympic games allow women to join, women ain't weak as you think. Women are not physically weaker than men, the one who are physically weaker than men are the men who choose to follow the gender role and don't practice sports or do heavy works, that's what cause most of the female society weaker than male society.
I can understand people being polite to other people as a sign of respect and personal maturity, but I don't agree with doing anything for women just because they are women. That draws a line of sexual segregation that dictates 1.) women don't have the ability to accomplish tasks like opening doors and pulling chairs out at a dinner table, and are therefore the weaker, more dependent sex, and 2.) men are strong enough to be completely independent without aid from others. Do it for men and women.
To me chivalry died when women stop responding to it in the dating feild. I don't consider common curtousy, opening doors to strangers when your in public and stuff like that the same as chivalry. When the gentlemen thing wasn't attracting women it died. Now chivalry is a good trait to have as a boyfriend but it's not the only thing women look for. From an early age guys are taught to respect women, open doors etc but when trying to court a women if doesn't work in modern times.
Some of these guys never get any sex. Let me break it down: Open the door if she is hott or and old lady( like you would for your grandmother). If shes ugly dont bother she will think shes better looking that she is. Why give her false hope.
Feminism is defined as a man or woman who believes in equal rights for women (voting, payment, etc.) The ungreatful women described here are simply sexist. I hold the door for everyone. It's a little thing called common decency. I also love it when my boyfriend walks me to my car, opens my door, and pulls put my chair. It isn't that he thinks I'm incapable or weak! He's trying to do something nice for me! And everyone should have an appriciation for kind acts of any measure.
I like when a guy hold a door for me, what I don't like is the 3d scan as I am walking by.. So if you want to be a gentlemen, Great, but please be one all the way..
@RCTPatriot75 I went to a church where they did chivalry (opening doors for me, etc) and I developed a crush nearly instantly with a couple guys!
But I mean even douche bags use chivalry if they're smart. It's always an assumption that only "good" guys use chivalry but that's not true. I've dated guys who use chivalry to get girls and use them. Everyone is on their best behavior when you're first dating.
lol I hold the door open for both men and women. And I love it when someone holds it open for me, if its a guy then I give them a big smile like: 'Thats good, keep being that nice :)'
@shoopt3hwoop That really stinks, I can't believe some girls would prefer a guy who's a total douchebag over someone who opens doors, buys them flowers and protects them
@sadlobster1 But the smart douchebags use chivalry to get girls and use them. It's not just "nice" guys who do chivalry.
Trust me, I've dated quite a few jerks who were nice in the beginning. And then they turn around in a couple of months once you've already started crushing on them pretty badly.
@sadlobster1@sadlobster1 But the smart douchebags use chivalry to get girls and use them. It's not just "nice" guys who do chivalry.
Trust me, I've dated quite a few jerks who were nice in the beginning. they opened doors, bought flowers, etc. And then they turn around in a couple of months once you've already started crushing on them pretty badly.
Once, this cowboy type man helped me pick up my pen, and I think my eyes literally sparkled as I said, "Thank youuu !! <3" He was just a regular looking dude, but that gesture just killed me, in a good way.
i'm a woman and i hold the door open for everyone, male or female. because it is polite not because it's chivalrous. it is a gesture that does not have to be done only for the opposite sex.
It can be chivalrous for men because they tend to get the rap for being drunken slobs that women don;t want. The decent ones can have the chivalry to show maybe they can be different from those other types of men. It is polite but I still think it can show something of a man sometimes.
Chivalry may be dead in the U.S. but in Italy it thrives and that's why Italian men rock! America has changed in the last 40 years and feminism has taken over. Many strides for women, yes, but it's ruined relationships between men and women
It's true, we dont expect chivalry. A man offered me his seat on the bus the other day and all i could think was 'do i look pregnant or something today?' shame.
It's just me, but chivalry just seems kinda sexist. After all, Victorian era men treated their women as trophies, not as actual women. They believed in chivalry, or at least did many chivalrous actions.
You make way too many assumptions there, not All men treated their women like trophies. If that were true it would still be happening today and a decent guy who actually loves his woman would never exist today.
I feel bad for guys cause they never really know what they're gonna get..some women want to be equal/better in EVERY aspect and don't want a man's help for ANYTHING, including something as simple as opening a door. Some ladies think it's a "control issue" or something with a deeper meaning, and honestly, men don't think that hard...a door needs opening. Period. On the other hand, some women think that if a guy doesn't open the door he's the biggest jerk ever. We call them "princesses". Poor guys
I am a strong, independent hard working woman, but I think every woman wants to be cherished and respected- 2 things which modern women are denyed very frequently. Either they are objectified as a sex object by the media or disrespected by men who view them as a threat, or the lazy modern male.
Men don't think about how masculine they need to feel, but they NEED it... women need to feel feminine sometimes too.
Holding a door open for people walking behind you is commonly accepted modern etiquette. When I was a kid (a *long* time ago), my parents taught me to always let a woman go through a doorway first, and to open the door for her while standing off to the side and out of her way. Many women today consider that to be sexist, and I agree.
@logik316 yeah, probably, if its just for women only and you make a big deal out of it. but its definitely okay to just hold the door open if somebody is close behind you. :D
@csrocks3 yeah, actually everytime i go with friends to a restaurant or something and i'm first. i do open the door for EVERYONE, not just for women, that's called courtesy. What i don't do, it's for example, giving up the seat to a healthy young female just for being a female, unless she looks tired or something, or also if she is my friend, actually when i'm with a male friend i do the same thing (let him to take the sit first). The only thing i don't support is the "Ladies first" thing.
@vue21849 Yet when the relationship ends early who's out more? hmm say I pay 25 dollars for a meal and say we go out 3 dates typically guy pays first 3. I'm out a 100+ what is she out? Nothing but time. Ohhhhh fuck chivalry
I don't think chivalry is dead, but that in 'modern society' it has gone culturally undefined. Like they said, boys want to be men, but with the interjection of feminism, it has gone without being taught, and they grasp at straws. Personally I believe there is the spark of chivalry in every man and the hope of it in every woman. Hollywood makes a killing off of it every year and in almost every movie. Why would it be so popular if its supposedly so "taboo" in this age of equality?
I think feminism had great beginnings [ie, fighting for women's rights to vote, have maternity leave, have legal rights, etc.] but then it just went too far.
I LOVE it when a guy will let me go first, hold a door for me, etc. For some reason some women see that as men taking away their independence. But that isn't true. I hold open the door for anyone behind me, and I'm not taking away their independence. Its a nice gesture, and I like to feel valued even if its just a stranger opening a door
Dave Chapelle already answered that question. Women killed them. Chivalry was more like an old knights code. You know killing countless men in wars and coming back to the kingdom to treat women as women. Nowadays we don't have that and the media helps ward them off (Feminists!). I think the Japanese call it Bushido.
I never said there was anything wrong...you are just assuming it.
what I said is that another dude apparently thought that was the correct goal in women's lives, when our real goal is to do whatever makes us happy... good for you if you like being someone's wife. Do not wish that upon other people, though, you don't know what makes them happy. I am not wishing you anything you don't want for yourself, or am I?
"our real goal is to do whatever makes us happy" - and what if things you do to make yourself happy make other people unhappy at the same time? This is so selfish, now I do understand why more and more american men try to find wifes abroad...
And the only thing I wished you in my previous post - to be happy. I think eveyone wish that. But unfortunately you were too agressive to understand what I meant...
I personally love the idea of chivalry, and hate the girls who get pissed off when a guy does something like open a door for them, I mean honestly they're trying to be nice.
Chivalry died at Crecy hundreds of years ago. and feminism also killed chivalry, you can't expect equality and chivalry. They are at the opposing end of spectrum, you can't have one and also expect the other
Chivalry is totally sexy! I love for a man to hold the door open for me, help me across the street esp. when it's icy out, or anything that shows a mans strength:) I wouldn't like it if a man asked my father 1st to marry me; although my 2nd husband asked my daughter 1st and it earned him big points with both of us!!
women don't want guys to be like this anymore. feminism has tought them that equality means guys should do whatever they want and females have to act like whores. that's equality.
Chivalry is good but it shouldn't be rules or something you have to do. If you feel like it - do it. I like to hold the door open. But getting up from the table when they leave the table or pushing in the chair while the girl sits down is a bit ridiculous and too much. But if you feel like doing it - do it.
I completely agree with the guy who says that most 20 something women don´t expect chivalry because they've never been exposed to it, i'm 25 and i've seen several women of my age most often than not getting angry at men for opening the door for them, or things like that claiming that they can very well open the door themselves, i don't mind chivalry, i've always been around it, i guess most women nowadays just don't have manners at all, if a men open the door for you, just thank them!
I've learned that I become disappointed if I expect chivalry [I'm 18], HOWEVER, when someone does go out of their way to open a door for me, let me go through a walkway first, etc, then I make sure to go out of my way to smile and say, 'thank you.'
I mean... I hold doors for other people. I agree with you. Its just good manners all around. Manners that, sadly, don't seem to mean much to a lot of people now.
I hate it when guys open the door for me...and then there is no nice way to tell them not to do that. I can open the door myself, really.
And asking my father for my hand would be a deal breaker for me. I would refuse to marry someone who did that. I realize that's just my opinion, but I'm just putting it out there that some girls really don't like it. Really.
I once felt bad coz I was brought up to be "chivalrous"; give my seat to the women/elderly, open and hold doors for them, the works (singing ballads don't count right? good...coz I can't sing hehehe)
What has that got me recently? Odd stares and I once got a nasty comment from a lady that "I'm not getting laid that way!".
It hurts to be chivalrous today...we get odd (AND sometimes hurtful) stares and labels that way...but I guess that's why my girlfriend loves me to bits :)
so based on most of these 5 guys, chivalry is dead, and replaced by douchebaggery. these examples of chivalry are less "chivalrous" as they are just proper formal etiquette.
i love it when guys do little things like get the door for you. the thing with me is i like "bad boys" so when they show off their softer/nicer side my heart melts
see, i don't think holding the door open is a chivalrous thing to do...as a woman, i do that for the people behind me, because it's a nice thing to do. i would want guys to do that for me, when the situation presents itself, because he's a nice guy and i'm a human being, not because he's a man and i'm a woman. people should be respectful and nice to EACH OTHER (male OR female), without sex entering into the equation (a woman on a pedestal is bad bc she's an idealization, not a real person).
Chivalry is in hybernation because many girls get pisssed if you treat them to nicely because they think u are demoralizing them.... i hate that tho im only 17 and i belive in chivalry
Chilvarly is an excuse to give women "attitude and, respect" that no one really deserves, you're a female, you're a human just like me, you don't deserve anything better than me.
I will open the door out of kindness, and self will, not because you're a woman
chivalry is biased in that sense, and frankly, i'm not going to be an ignorant moron.
They wanted feminism, they can attend to the responsibilities now.
If you hold a door open for every person who's behind you simply because you are a nice guy, I will most likely be even more attracted to you. However, not all women believe in feminism and expect a different kind of respect simply because we have the babies.
What the hell do you mean by "realistic?" You're telling me that someone who accepts chivalry politely isn't realistic? That's the most idiotic thing I've ever read. How do you even put those things together. You obviously don't know what chivalry is, my friend. How about you grow up.
Okay guys, this is pretty simple to me. From time to time I like to conduct a little social experiment in rooms of mixed gender. I open the door for my fellow man and say "After you, mate". And then when the women come along in the line, I smile and say "Here you go", and gently release the door so that they have to hold it open for themselves. They don't like it. Personally I feel neutral other than my interest in observing their reaction. BTW The guys appreciate the extra manners towards them.
TableWolfMusic 2 weeks ago
These dudes are Lame, go listen to Tom Leykis, he is 1 man and he can provide Much better insight on this Chivalry crap!
deeppurple28 2 weeks ago
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Chivarly towards women is best understood as a sub-topic of behaving like a gentleman. It is an outward display of basic manners and good character. It is not done to impress anyone; it is just a natural manifestation of your inward character. A gentleman doesn't show basic manners only towards women, but towards men as well. This is because "preferential treatment" and showing deference to others are two completely different things.
nemoliberestquicorpo 3 weeks ago 8
I am living proof chivalry is dead . I am 18 . I spent my child days thinking I will treat women with such respect I will never hurt them and always protect them . I reached adulthood and saw how spiteful , sexist and deluded western women are and now i commit to never allowing a bitch in because they will just fuck me over then leave with all my money . I also learned that even though my morals were exactly what they want , if I didn't make the first move I would never show them .sluts
jamietherooster 1 month ago
Some (i.e. not all) women use chivalry to manipulate men. One one hand, they want to be treated like princesses/goddesses and get pampered by guys. On the other hand, they want to be treated as equals like other men until the going gets rough. Once a man calls her out on something, he's being an insensitive jerk.
I respect everyone (men/women), but refuse to put someone on a pedestal because they have breasts and a vagina.
nightfrog65 1 month ago
I have a strange problem when I'm chivalrous. I don't know why, but everytime I open doors for women in my mind I think "wow this women probably thinks I'm doing this just so I can talk to her or start some sort of relationship". Who knows what's going through her mind. It's just that I always think something negative. Hopefully I'm wrong.
gpavlovic25 1 month ago
I've never expect all that
ItsMoriashkiBitches 1 month ago
Chivalry to one because of gender... not really in my book. I hold the door open for anyone/everyone. I even let others eat first at home, regardless of their gender. Chivalry in the middle ages was due to prevailing beliefs that we should've outgrown by now. That said, the way things are now, few on either side are actually treating the opposing side with respect. A gender-neutral chivalry needs to be started... showing it in the media would probably be a good way to start.
kirby28645 2 months ago
at least one knew what chivalry was and could say it should not be!
artisticdrama92 3 months ago
look at these guys. they are ugly doormats with no game. these are the type of guys that women marry after they've fucked the hot bad boys when they were hot, and when the women are old, sexually used up, broke, single mothers.
UltraProle21 3 months ago
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Yeah chivalry is dead if women think that a man like Edward Cullen watching them sleep through their bedroom window is romantic.
FreeLunchShow 4 months ago
pussies
2Banarne2 5 months ago
In the words of Dave Chappelle: "Chivalry is dead; and women killed it."
LadyRuin2012 6 months ago
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LadyRuin2012 6 months ago
women are equal and deserve respect...jk they should suck my dick
elasticrubberband123 6 months ago
Men and Women shoud be teated equal and men and women should treat each other with respect bottom line
thickjai18 7 months ago
Chivalry is dead because women took it for granted!
The generosity of men is completely unappreciated by women and men KNOW IT! We all know guys who are over the top in the way they give to some selfish, manipulative, controlling woman who uses and takes everything she can get from him until she send him to an early grave! A woman is not entitled to a man's generosity just by her very right of birth alone! Make her earn it or walk away.
DON'T BE A CHUMP!
embracingreality 7 months ago 2
@embracingreality The thing is men will only be generous to get sex in return lol
thickjai18 7 months ago
@embracingreality
I'm a girl and I agree with you. Women have killed it, I like men who are chivalrous and I appreciate it but I don't bother to complain like most women who are because I know that women are the one's who killed it in the first place not the men.
HarvestStation 4 months ago
chivalry is stupid
papertreegun 8 months ago
In the old days a true gentleman was expected to hold open doors and even die to protect a ladies virtue or even a slight against her reputation..BUT in return, a lady was expected to not cut her hair, drink, smoke or have sex before marriage. So while there may not be many gentlemen, there are even fewer real ladies in the world.
loetzfan 8 months ago 2
Chivalry died because many men choose to quit doing nice things for women, because many of those women stopped showing appreciation for it. It stopped generations ago so you can't really blame people now a days. If it's not taught it cannot be learned. People in general are rude. How often do you even hear "please, thank you, and excuse me" anymore?
eyerawkutube 8 months ago
posession? a girl is her father's RESPONSIBILITY, not posession. Untill the lady is married, her father is her protecter and provider. he's not gonna be there for her forever so the responsibility needs to be passed on. When the man asks the father for her hand, he's pretty much asking 'will you trust this responsibility to me?'. when the father gives her daughter at the alter he's saying 'I trust you, and I think you'll take good care of my little girl'.
Lulmaarraak1 8 months ago
In the words of Luda, I think a woman should be a lady in the street but a freak in the bed. Its irrelevant to me anyway, because i like thick, ugly women
Critchy39 9 months ago
I don't really see how using manners around a woman is sexist.
Gasketfuse 9 months ago
If it is dead, feminism killed it.
THEATRYCAL 10 months ago 2
Chivalry is endangered, and in some circles it is actively hunted. Somewhere along the way, women got the idea that flirting is bad and being chivalrous was flirtatious. It is, but since when was flirting such a horrible offense?
VandalHeartPrime 1 year ago
chivalry (favor the female nomatter what) needs to die it has no place in a society that claims to be for "equality"
trueswordsexpert0909 1 year ago 3
@trueswordsexpert0909 There is no such thing as "Equality" nor "Fair-ness" in this world. We can however try & protect everyone under same clause & rules. In reality things do affect it. -i.e. business will remain as it, people will try not to allow personal matters affect "Equality".
However, personal things come into affect at a personal level, (Not applied to all, and not excluding other features/characteristics)... i.e. Height, Sex, Race, Knowledge, Personality, Actions, etc.
ShinSephy 10 months ago
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@trueswordsexpert0909 There is no such thing as "Equality" nor "Fair-ness" in this world. We can however try & protect everyone under same clause & rules. In reality things do affect it. -i.e. business will remain as it, people will try not to allow personal matters affect "Equality".
However, personal things come into affect at a personal level, (Not applied to all, and not excluding other features/characteristics)... i.e. Height, Sex, Race, Knowledge, Personality, Actions, etc.
ShinSephy 10 months ago
@trueswordsexpert0909 This is part 2:
That's reality, not affecting general "Equality" in some. What I'm saying is, chivalry should be allowed, it is an opinion & a choice. Not yours for the matter & neither does it harm you, in my opinion.
And if this is true, I suppose your allowed to have your own opinion as well, shucks I forgot.
To women, you do kill chivalry sometimes and I don't have enough characters to explain. Don't assume the worst of actions of the good heart of men(males).
ShinSephy 10 months ago
@trueswordsexpert0909 yeah, but unfortunately still nowdays people (including women) satanize any man who is not a "gentleman".
davlor86 9 months ago
@davlor86 Well they can satanize us all they want not going to change my opinion of "chivalry", its nothing but an extremely sexist notion that favors women and leads to unfair treatment for the rest of us poor saps.
Look up VAWA, Title IX, or the upcoming SaVE law for what I mean of that.
trueswordsexpert0909 9 months ago
Chivalry/privilege for women should be dead.
No one should be treated better then others.
A woman who expects chivalry does not expect equality, plain and simple, chivalry should die and remain dead.
I can never look at a woman as my equal if she expects chivalry from me.
ManSpeakOut 1 year ago 4
being polite is good. Being polite to women for some reason gives you strange looks. Personally I love chivalry but when people make you feel awkward you just not gonna do it. Right?
fallen40000 1 year ago
I was raised to open doors, escort them in, pull out their seat, and many more things that deal with respect. Chivalry is not dead it is just a sort of lost art. The reason for that is most of the father figures today have either got complacent or have just forgot what their father and grandfathers have taught them about it. Being a member of the SCA. I am seeing a lot more of it coming back because of the way we have structured the guidelines and regulations.
Knightsquire74 1 year ago
@Knightsquire74 if it's respect by the very definition it's disrespectful if women don't do it. My husband didn't do any of that. He tried but once when he opend the door I walked directly to the next one and opened it. It's sexist. IF you love that so much how about when you get divorced your checks are garnished because hey. The man should pay for the women
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Knightsquire74 10 months ago
Very poor superficial debate.
edlpirateradio 1 year ago
Chivalry isn't dead. It was never born. Anyone who think that knights in the Middle Ages rescued damsels in distress left and right is very, very ignorant of history. Men are no different today that they ever were.
ryanmshepard92 1 year ago
I don't understand why some women get angry when men hold open the door for them. It is not a discreet way of saying that men are physically stronger than women (Which is true, but besides the point), it's courtesy! Do you want it slamed in your face?
Luckily, this is strictly a US problem. There are countries where chivalry is welcome with open arms, where ladies want to be treated like ladies and gentlemen treat them as such.
brownieblush 1 year ago
my boyfriend always makes me walk up the stairs at his house first so he can look at my ass, hahahaha
Andrea9514 1 year ago
The fact that men have to treat women better than they treat other men should make it obvious to women its just about sex and if they have a problem with that why wudnt a guy just be after sex if your required to be a slave to your partner. I think its nice to be nice to everyone, being nice to a girl and then not recieving the same treatment seems fucking stupid. just me perhaps.
orbisnonsufficit0805 1 year ago
Being chivalrous is not done very much anymore(see the comments), so if you still do that, then it's kind of special isn't it?
And women usually fall in love with a 'special guy' isn't it? =)
I noticed that trying(not just try for once, but really want to live up to it) to be chivalrous gets you the nicest girls ^_^
Depends on your taste I guess?
Xjylix 1 year ago
Chivalry is dead and women killed it a long time ago.
sameer137 1 year ago
Chivalry is bs it be the reason there are so many antimale laws in this country.
Fuk chivalry it deserves to die
bilosuks0909 1 year ago
Chivalry should be dead, it makes men treat women as their superiors with special treatment and rights, which could be one of the reasosn why men are facing as much misandry as they are right now.
A woman who expects men to be chivalrous to them, in reality do not support equality and rights for all.
ManSpeakOut 1 year ago
wow, you're an idiot. do women race against men in the same heats? do they lift weights against them in the same heats? are there ANY unisex sports in the olympics beside equestrian? NO! why? because women are not at the same physical level as men! it's fucking science! testosterone>estrogen. gender roles? you're fucking stupid to even think that was a good argument
owenallan1 1 year ago
I was asked if I consider feminists stupid. In making the comment, this video was about chivalry. Personally, I'm not totally in touch with their needs nor am I anti-feminist. I did say that women appreciate being treated graciously. As a man, if a "feminist" wanted to hold open the door for me, I'd appreciate it!
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WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1 1 year ago
You should a woman first if she wants to marry you and then ask her parents for their blessings.
Because is the woman marrying you not her parents
maryuriwood07 1 year ago
What a bunch of fucking pussies!!!!!!
jasonbear72 1 year ago
Chivalry needs to die, men and women should be the same, Chivalry should never exsits, chivarly making women like weakling and not letting them do stuff that men can do, the world needs equality, not chivarly
Assault912 1 year ago
@Assault912 R u a man? I'm guessing you're were born with a few people that gave you such examples as adults that u came to believe what you just said. I bet you get the cheapest sloppiest one night stands or the worst spouses in relationships that what you think leads to what happens in your life. What goes around comes around. If u act cheap, that's what you'll get back. Cheap treatment.
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Assault912 1 year ago
@Filipina84 I respect ladies way more than men. It's one reason and one reason only, men cause serious problems and keep pick on weak one (especially guys) in society while respecting ladies.
Most ladies respect the weak ones and understand them, every single goddamn time I got pick on by guys I always got protected by girls, so yeah, you have it. I won't give any respect to majority of the male community especially those one who like to show off and pick on weak ones.
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spliffster123 1 year ago
@Assault912
So you're admitting you side with women because you're a bitch and need their protection? rotfl
Come on now, at least PRETEND to be a man.
One thing I suggest you consider - these women might protect you, but they'll never have sex with you. Think on that and ask yourself why ;)"
spliffster123 1 year ago
@spliffster123 Dumbass I am a woman myself, stop the assumption before you don't know anything about me.
Assault912 1 year ago
@Assault912 : Women ARE physically weaker than men. Its evident from all the sports. Remember the time when the Williams sisters (who were the top female tennis players) lost to Karsten Braasch who ranked 203rd amongst men (6-2, 6-1).
sameer137 1 year ago 2
@Assault912 woman want to be treated like a man until they get hit like a man,
owenallan1 1 year ago 9
@owenallan1 It's 21st century, you still think women should go back to the kitchen and make sandwich for you? Even Olympic games allow women to join, women ain't weak as you think. Women are not physically weaker than men, the one who are physically weaker than men are the men who choose to follow the gender role and don't practice sports or do heavy works, that's what cause most of the female society weaker than male society.
Assault912 1 year ago
I can understand people being polite to other people as a sign of respect and personal maturity, but I don't agree with doing anything for women just because they are women. That draws a line of sexual segregation that dictates 1.) women don't have the ability to accomplish tasks like opening doors and pulling chairs out at a dinner table, and are therefore the weaker, more dependent sex, and 2.) men are strong enough to be completely independent without aid from others. Do it for men and women.
TheOmegaParadigm 1 year ago 5
@TheOmegaParadigm agreed. For me, I agree whole heartedly with csrocks3 and you. Just be polite all around, Be chivolrous for everyone.
LiveLaughLove8489 1 year ago
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its not all like that dude perhaps some people miss understood or dont know there are actually 2 ways of chivalry.
King Arthur chivalry(the code i follow)-Honour, Honesty, Valour and Loyalty.
chivalry described by the Duke of Burgandy(in the 14th century/its a list)-Faith,Charity,Justice,Truth,Diligence
morrowoblivion13 2 months ago
To me chivalry died when women stop responding to it in the dating feild. I don't consider common curtousy, opening doors to strangers when your in public and stuff like that the same as chivalry. When the gentlemen thing wasn't attracting women it died. Now chivalry is a good trait to have as a boyfriend but it's not the only thing women look for. From an early age guys are taught to respect women, open doors etc but when trying to court a women if doesn't work in modern times.
UnlimitedProdiction1 1 year ago
5 fags discuss...
S0undBite 1 year ago
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Some of these guys never get any sex. Let me break it down: Open the door if she is hott or and old lady( like you would for your grandmother). If shes ugly dont bother she will think shes better looking that she is. Why give her false hope.
omfggoogle 1 year ago
notice how none of these guys could ever get pussy without paying for it. fat balding losers.
thabooger 1 year ago 2
Yeah right, chivalry is dead. "Progressive" guys are just "Dogs" who haven't been completely screwed over by a woman yet.
Leykis 101!!
cv9113366 1 year ago
1:33 lol
Konformation07 1 year ago
i feel happy whenever a guy opens a door or keeps it open for me, i especially love it when they keep an elevator door open for me
ForTheLifeOfKinzi 1 year ago
@ForTheLifeOfKinzi that's awesome cuz i feel the same way when a women has the house cleaned up and dinner ready by the time i get home from work.
thabooger 1 year ago
@thabooger Isn't that what a woman is supposed to do? ;-)
ForTheLifeOfKinzi 1 year ago
@ForTheLifeOfKinzi no. not at all.
thabooger 1 year ago
@thabooger lol yeah, but I now what you mean.
ForTheLifeOfKinzi 1 year ago
Feminism is defined as a man or woman who believes in equal rights for women (voting, payment, etc.) The ungreatful women described here are simply sexist. I hold the door for everyone. It's a little thing called common decency. I also love it when my boyfriend walks me to my car, opens my door, and pulls put my chair. It isn't that he thinks I'm incapable or weak! He's trying to do something nice for me! And everyone should have an appriciation for kind acts of any measure.
rose2540 1 year ago 11
I like when a guy hold a door for me, what I don't like is the 3d scan as I am walking by.. So if you want to be a gentlemen, Great, but please be one all the way..
beygirl1 1 year ago
I don't believe chivalry is dead but it's dying out very fast.
HarvestStation 1 year ago
"5 Men Discuss" Which one of them is the woman?
ThePOPOVICI 1 year ago
I'm biased, but as a kind, decent, respectful man, I've found that it hasn't served me very well.
RCTPatriot75 1 year ago
@RCTPatriot75 I went to a church where they did chivalry (opening doors for me, etc) and I developed a crush nearly instantly with a couple guys!
But I mean even douche bags use chivalry if they're smart. It's always an assumption that only "good" guys use chivalry but that's not true. I've dated guys who use chivalry to get girls and use them. Everyone is on their best behavior when you're first dating.
flo001 1 year ago
lol I hold the door open for both men and women. And I love it when someone holds it open for me, if its a guy then I give them a big smile like: 'Thats good, keep being that nice :)'
WallflowerChild 1 year ago
Chivalry's dead??! Aw crap. I'm the last of my kind. Well....this sucks.
Dusk557 1 year ago
Chivalry still exists, but it's hard to keep it up when girls either look past you or dump you for losers who treat them like trash.
shoopt3hwoop 2 years ago
@shoopt3hwoop That really stinks, I can't believe some girls would prefer a guy who's a total douchebag over someone who opens doors, buys them flowers and protects them
sadlobster1 1 year ago
@sadlobster1 Tell me about it haha
shoopt3hwoop 1 year ago
@sadlobster1 But the smart douchebags use chivalry to get girls and use them. It's not just "nice" guys who do chivalry.
Trust me, I've dated quite a few jerks who were nice in the beginning. And then they turn around in a couple of months once you've already started crushing on them pretty badly.
flo001 1 year ago
@sadlobster1 @sadlobster1 But the smart douchebags use chivalry to get girls and use them. It's not just "nice" guys who do chivalry.
Trust me, I've dated quite a few jerks who were nice in the beginning. they opened doors, bought flowers, etc. And then they turn around in a couple of months once you've already started crushing on them pretty badly.
flo001 1 year ago
Once, this cowboy type man helped me pick up my pen, and I think my eyes literally sparkled as I said, "Thank youuu !! <3" He was just a regular looking dude, but that gesture just killed me, in a good way.
DaniBongar 2 years ago
Feminists are partly to blame for the death of chivalry.
DaniBongar 2 years ago 16
i'm a woman and i hold the door open for everyone, male or female. because it is polite not because it's chivalrous. it is a gesture that does not have to be done only for the opposite sex.
lek900 2 years ago 3
It can be chivalrous for men because they tend to get the rap for being drunken slobs that women don;t want. The decent ones can have the chivalry to show maybe they can be different from those other types of men. It is polite but I still think it can show something of a man sometimes.
Strymn 2 years ago
Chivalry may be dead in the U.S. but in Italy it thrives and that's why Italian men rock! America has changed in the last 40 years and feminism has taken over. Many strides for women, yes, but it's ruined relationships between men and women
meg3325 2 years ago 6
Agreed, especially with the latter part of your comment.
DaniBongar 2 years ago
It's true, we dont expect chivalry. A man offered me his seat on the bus the other day and all i could think was 'do i look pregnant or something today?' shame.
mybelovedlittle 2 years ago
And now you know why the "good ones" are either all married or non existent.
Strymn 2 years ago
Women killed chivalry. Any guy who is nice, clean and handsome, he is gay. I wish I was in the 50's again.
N3B0R3D 2 years ago 5
It's just me, but chivalry just seems kinda sexist. After all, Victorian era men treated their women as trophies, not as actual women. They believed in chivalry, or at least did many chivalrous actions.
Thothsglyphs 2 years ago
You make way too many assumptions there, not All men treated their women like trophies. If that were true it would still be happening today and a decent guy who actually loves his woman would never exist today.
Strymn 2 years ago
Many of them did.
Thothsglyphs 2 years ago
Perhaps, but again, there are always exceptions, even if you never hear of them.
Strymn 2 years ago
As a man, I hold the door open for everyone. But on dates I always split the check.
Jugglingbuffoon 2 years ago
I feel bad for guys cause they never really know what they're gonna get..some women want to be equal/better in EVERY aspect and don't want a man's help for ANYTHING, including something as simple as opening a door. Some ladies think it's a "control issue" or something with a deeper meaning, and honestly, men don't think that hard...a door needs opening. Period. On the other hand, some women think that if a guy doesn't open the door he's the biggest jerk ever. We call them "princesses". Poor guys
Riven8805 2 years ago 3
It is for that reason that decent guys that woman want are becoming more extinct than most other species.
Strymn 2 years ago
chilvary seems to die wen guys get together and make fun of women. when it comes to peer pressure guys are assholes
dreamzcatchers 2 years ago
We women must learn to show appreciation for gentlemanly behaviour.
God help us if all men stop this...
mysticpamela 2 years ago 4
Sadly, chivalry is dead because women killed it. :\
brownieblush 2 years ago 3
I disagree. Women who fail to appreciate it don't deserve it. Keep looking.
I love it.
Totally.
Try it!!
mysticpamela 2 years ago 2
I am a strong, independent hard working woman, but I think every woman wants to be cherished and respected- 2 things which modern women are denyed very frequently. Either they are objectified as a sex object by the media or disrespected by men who view them as a threat, or the lazy modern male.
Men don't think about how masculine they need to feel, but they NEED it... women need to feel feminine sometimes too.
gryphonkeen 2 years ago 4
Having a cunt doesn't make you special!!!!
12lbq 2 years ago
i think you should hold the door open for anyone, man or woman, its the polite thing to do
csrocks3 2 years ago 33
@csrocks3
Holding a door open for people walking behind you is commonly accepted modern etiquette. When I was a kid (a *long* time ago), my parents taught me to always let a woman go through a doorway first, and to open the door for her while standing off to the side and out of her way. Many women today consider that to be sexist, and I agree.
logik316 9 months ago
@logik316 yeah, probably, if its just for women only and you make a big deal out of it. but its definitely okay to just hold the door open if somebody is close behind you. :D
csrocks3 9 months ago
@csrocks3 really? cause i've never seen a woman holding or open the door for a man
davlor86 9 months ago
@davlor86 I've seen it multiple times... and even if it never happened, i said you SHOULD hold the door.
csrocks3 9 months ago
@csrocks3 yeah, actually everytime i go with friends to a restaurant or something and i'm first. i do open the door for EVERYONE, not just for women, that's called courtesy. What i don't do, it's for example, giving up the seat to a healthy young female just for being a female, unless she looks tired or something, or also if she is my friend, actually when i'm with a male friend i do the same thing (let him to take the sit first). The only thing i don't support is the "Ladies first" thing.
davlor86 9 months ago
Men Should Always Hold The Door For Women...ALWAYS
gerryevil 2 years ago 3
no..
DONTCLICKMYPROFILE 2 years ago
It really depends: location, age, upbringing...
Zeaky0arteest 2 years ago
Im 15 and i open up doors for women, but i dont do anything else really.
Anamedashammie 2 years ago 4
A smart lady enjoys being treated like one! Chivalry is always in style. In fact most women consider it very chic!
vue21849 2 years ago 25
Chivalry is for stupid manginas and parasitic women.
Bachelo2 1 year ago
@vue21849 So according to your comment, you are saying feminists are stupid?
Assault912 1 year ago
@vue21849 Yet when the relationship ends early who's out more? hmm say I pay 25 dollars for a meal and say we go out 3 dates typically guy pays first 3. I'm out a 100+ what is she out? Nothing but time. Ohhhhh fuck chivalry
flame0731 10 months ago
I don't think chivalry is dead, but that in 'modern society' it has gone culturally undefined. Like they said, boys want to be men, but with the interjection of feminism, it has gone without being taught, and they grasp at straws. Personally I believe there is the spark of chivalry in every man and the hope of it in every woman. Hollywood makes a killing off of it every year and in almost every movie. Why would it be so popular if its supposedly so "taboo" in this age of equality?
dontfencemein1979 2 years ago 7
I think feminism had great beginnings [ie, fighting for women's rights to vote, have maternity leave, have legal rights, etc.] but then it just went too far.
I LOVE it when a guy will let me go first, hold a door for me, etc. For some reason some women see that as men taking away their independence. But that isn't true. I hold open the door for anyone behind me, and I'm not taking away their independence. Its a nice gesture, and I like to feel valued even if its just a stranger opening a door
dappleddakota 2 years ago 8
very well said!
Shekinaah 2 years ago
Dave Chapelle already answered that question. Women killed them. Chivalry was more like an old knights code. You know killing countless men in wars and coming back to the kingdom to treat women as women. Nowadays we don't have that and the media helps ward them off (Feminists!). I think the Japanese call it Bushido.
NeverAloneForever 2 years ago 3
well, you are assuming too many things my friend. I never said I was a woman, nor a feminist.
you are also assuming that the correct goal in women's lives is to become a wife... think outside the box for once.
I hope you have a happy marriage and your wife's dreams haven't vanished after having marry. peace.
ImaSumac4ever 2 years ago
And what's wrong about being a good wife for your husband?
To give him a lot of love and care and get the same back?
And you know - yes, that is the most desired and pleasant goal of my life - to be a good wife for my one and only man.
I'm absolutely happy and wish you the same ;-)
Ahila82 2 years ago 2
I never said there was anything wrong...you are just assuming it.
what I said is that another dude apparently thought that was the correct goal in women's lives, when our real goal is to do whatever makes us happy... good for you if you like being someone's wife. Do not wish that upon other people, though, you don't know what makes them happy. I am not wishing you anything you don't want for yourself, or am I?
ImaSumac4ever 2 years ago
"our real goal is to do whatever makes us happy" - and what if things you do to make yourself happy make other people unhappy at the same time? This is so selfish, now I do understand why more and more american men try to find wifes abroad...
And the only thing I wished you in my previous post - to be happy. I think eveyone wish that. But unfortunately you were too agressive to understand what I meant...
Ahila82 2 years ago
zzz...WOMAN HATER!
ImaSumac4ever 2 years ago
WIFE BEATER!
ImaSumac4ever 2 years ago
zzzz... WOMAN HATER!
ImaSumac4ever 2 years ago
just don't beat her up...
ImaSumac4ever 2 years ago
ARE U A WOMAN HATER?
ImaSumac4ever 2 years ago
I personally love the idea of chivalry, and hate the girls who get pissed off when a guy does something like open a door for them, I mean honestly they're trying to be nice.
loyalashley12191967 2 years ago
Chivalry died at Crecy hundreds of years ago. and feminism also killed chivalry, you can't expect equality and chivalry. They are at the opposing end of spectrum, you can't have one and also expect the other
m72ar 2 years ago 2
Chivalry is totally sexy! I love for a man to hold the door open for me, help me across the street esp. when it's icy out, or anything that shows a mans strength:) I wouldn't like it if a man asked my father 1st to marry me; although my 2nd husband asked my daughter 1st and it earned him big points with both of us!!
rockstar2707 2 years ago
I love it when a guy is like this. I expect it. and if my boyfriend isn't like this i give hints.
microwavejunkie 2 years ago
women don't want guys to be like this anymore. feminism has tought them that equality means guys should do whatever they want and females have to act like whores. that's equality.
mattrmc19 2 years ago 7
Chivalry is good but it shouldn't be rules or something you have to do. If you feel like it - do it. I like to hold the door open. But getting up from the table when they leave the table or pushing in the chair while the girl sits down is a bit ridiculous and too much. But if you feel like doing it - do it.
velocity246 2 years ago
I completely agree with the guy who says that most 20 something women don´t expect chivalry because they've never been exposed to it, i'm 25 and i've seen several women of my age most often than not getting angry at men for opening the door for them, or things like that claiming that they can very well open the door themselves, i don't mind chivalry, i've always been around it, i guess most women nowadays just don't have manners at all, if a men open the door for you, just thank them!
Shekinaah 2 years ago
im 20 and would love chivalry and would love to find a romantic guy, all the guys I see are selfish and other bad things.
savedogz 2 years ago
I've learned that I become disappointed if I expect chivalry [I'm 18], HOWEVER, when someone does go out of their way to open a door for me, let me go through a walkway first, etc, then I make sure to go out of my way to smile and say, 'thank you.'
I mean... I hold doors for other people. I agree with you. Its just good manners all around. Manners that, sadly, don't seem to mean much to a lot of people now.
dappleddakota 2 years ago 6
I hate it when guys open the door for me...and then there is no nice way to tell them not to do that. I can open the door myself, really.
And asking my father for my hand would be a deal breaker for me. I would refuse to marry someone who did that. I realize that's just my opinion, but I'm just putting it out there that some girls really don't like it. Really.
a13thadaption 2 years ago
I once felt bad coz I was brought up to be "chivalrous"; give my seat to the women/elderly, open and hold doors for them, the works (singing ballads don't count right? good...coz I can't sing hehehe)
What has that got me recently? Odd stares and I once got a nasty comment from a lady that "I'm not getting laid that way!".
It hurts to be chivalrous today...we get odd (AND sometimes hurtful) stares and labels that way...but I guess that's why my girlfriend loves me to bits :)
nagah720 2 years ago
so based on most of these 5 guys, chivalry is dead, and replaced by douchebaggery. these examples of chivalry are less "chivalrous" as they are just proper formal etiquette.
ultravioletcarson 2 years ago
haha...i love this show !!!
bluetifullavenue 2 years ago
Chivalry is not a form of regarding someone as lesser or anything like that. It is simply respect or politeness towards someone of the opposite sex.
PetiteMouse 2 years ago 3
i love it when guys do little things like get the door for you. the thing with me is i like "bad boys" so when they show off their softer/nicer side my heart melts
StunningSophia7 2 years ago
see, i don't think holding the door open is a chivalrous thing to do...as a woman, i do that for the people behind me, because it's a nice thing to do. i would want guys to do that for me, when the situation presents itself, because he's a nice guy and i'm a human being, not because he's a man and i'm a woman. people should be respectful and nice to EACH OTHER (male OR female), without sex entering into the equation (a woman on a pedestal is bad bc she's an idealization, not a real person).
amnesiacsmuzak 2 years ago
I like the original people from this segment better!
gfhursi 2 years ago
Me too
luvbughug 2 years ago
Chivalry is in hybernation because many girls get pisssed if you treat them to nicely because they think u are demoralizing them.... i hate that tho im only 17 and i belive in chivalry
fireworks1party 2 years ago 3
Chivalry is to show women men's muscular power and women's delicacy/tenderness are both needed for a family to be blessed!
meka4996 2 years ago
it's funny how realism tends to dismantle,
Chilvarly is an excuse to give women "attitude and, respect" that no one really deserves, you're a female, you're a human just like me, you don't deserve anything better than me.
I will open the door out of kindness, and self will, not because you're a woman
chivalry is biased in that sense, and frankly, i'm not going to be an ignorant moron.
They wanted feminism, they can attend to the responsibilities now.
kyeruu2 2 years ago
If you hold a door open for every person who's behind you simply because you are a nice guy, I will most likely be even more attracted to you. However, not all women believe in feminism and expect a different kind of respect simply because we have the babies.
Domatophobic 2 years ago 2
too bad that's not really my problem, i want a realistic girl in my life : )
kyeruu2 2 years ago
What the hell do you mean by "realistic?" You're telling me that someone who accepts chivalry politely isn't realistic? That's the most idiotic thing I've ever read. How do you even put those things together. You obviously don't know what chivalry is, my friend. How about you grow up.
Domatophobic 2 years ago 2
a realistic girl wont' expect me to open the door for her every fucking time cause she's a girl.
she'll expect it cause she's my friend/lover.
a realistic girl would notice that being "polite" is nothing more than an instinctive form of peace.
a realist person would be open minded, whereas you insult me and tell me to grow up.
Hmmmm. Way to stereotype hunny.
kyeruu2 2 years ago
(clapping) Bravo very well put.
portugal82 2 years ago
The only thing Chivalry will get you to a girl is "I only see you as a Friend." .....Yea....
frostythesn0wman 2 years ago