The U.S. govt. sacrificed 3,000 soldiers at Pearl Harbor in 1941 to the Empire of Japan; the U.S. govt. poisons and adulterates our water with the waste product sodium fluoride and the blood intoxicant known as lithium (as well as innumerable heavy metals and pesticides). The U.S. govt. clouds the skies with aluminum oxide and barium salt. I am able and willing to turn YOU over to Iraq's citizens for dispensation. Murder is murder. The murdering of children is especially abhorrent.
@TrevBenson lol. 1: Lincoln did not carve his own statue. 2: The fasces in the statue has no axe; which symbolize that the rights of the citizens are superior to the authority of the state. 3: Fasces has been used in numerous non-fascistic themes. 4: The fasces became a fascism symbol (with loads of other symbols) long after Lincoln. 5: Fasces depict strength trough unity. 6..
-I'm not an American and does not know to much about Lincoln, but that was a pore argument :)
Man's inhumanity to Man is a running, seemingly inescapable, theme throughout human history. The titular head of America's great 19th century bloodletting was Abraham Hitler Lincoln. Septicemia ruled the countryside throughout the mid-1860's. Forbearance demands forgiveness. Somehow, some way, righteousness shall triumph. Wide-scale institutionalized murder reduced the population of Cambodia from 7 million to 3 million in the 1970's. History is replete with atrocities.
Consider this then: The origin of 'Fascist' as a perjorative was during the Spanish Civil War, when the Abraham Lincoln Brigade (American Communist volunteers) fought against the Falangists ("fascists"). It has become a word without meaning and it is overused by untrustworthy people everywhere. I'd like to think we are a cut above all of them.
I would argue that Lincoln's Administration fits much of the definition of a fascist state. It was centralised, highly militarised, big industry strongly supported this political movement in general as it enriched the elite t the expense of the lives of the soldiers and the liberties of all.
PS The founder of the Falange argued his movement was something different from fascism and unique. After he was executed by the communists his movement was hijacked by the generals who changed it.
Agree...the Northern Whigs had been for decades trying to promote and push Corporate Welfare into the Federal Government; Lincoln was the President who finally allowed it.
John Tylaer, a Whig himself, knew these measures were unconstitutional avd Veto'd them consistantly...pretty sad when you own Party President shoots you down.
Anyways, Lincoln did one good thing...took a bullet.
The most useful point he makes is that ALL other Presidents are open to criticism but Lincoln is not. Tell only that to your reconstructed colleagues and their reaction should tell them everything about them that you need to know.
Thank God I went to grade school in South Carolina in the 60's. My fourth grade teacher's grandfather fought in the war. She told me the real story. God bless you, Mrs. Corder.
I went to a SC high school in the early 90's with a history teacher from Missouri who was proud of her Union ancestors and missed no opportunity to defame the Confederate Cause. I ended up teaching half of the class in order to point out the errors in our text book and in her version of history.
With men like DiLorenzo, Walter Williams, and things like the internet and YouTube it is becoming increasingly difficult to hide the truth any longer. Our time will come.
I'm glad we still have a few people out there that care about facts rather than the made up 'history' of the Civil War. Lincoln was the biggest terrorist in this countrie's history in my opinion...
The biggest in the world. Who knows what would have happened if he wasn't silenced. He looked at himself as allpowerful. I have no doubt that one of the first things he would have done after the war was officially over and reconstruction was under way was ship off all the slaves. He kept advocating this and he was one of the last of the supporters of this type of emancipation.
The entire educational system not excluding the institutions of higher learning, teach what to think instead of how to think. This is nothing new, if you are not fortunate enough to have informed parents. Then you will not be taught to question the status quo or rather the percieved staus quo.
I had never noticed the fasces at Lincoln's right hand - how appropriate indeed. (The fasces is where the word "fascism" came from for those who didnt know).
Unfortunately it is true, anyone who has an opinion on race and isnt a "minority" is automatically labeled racist just as anyone who criticizes someone who had anything to do with "anti-racism" (which, btw, Lincoln surely didnt) is automatically labeled wrong. The truth, and therefore KNOWLEDGE, will set you free.
I don't think it's entirely fair to bring down the image of the fasces itself. It was a symbol of Law and Government to the Romans. Only in modern times has it taken another meaning, and that has more to do with Spanish Civil War lingo that carried over into WW2. Hence, every time we hear "fascist" we think of Hitler. I think that's a gross oversimplification considering the differences between Italy and their gaolers in Germany. Let's not overuse buzzwords - like our shallow detractors do.
If you reread my previous comment youll notice I said the fasces was neither right nor wrong only that I had never noticed it at Lincolns right hand and that its name was the basis for which the word "fascism" came - both of which are absolutely true. As for my comment about the fasces presence at Lincolns right hand being appropriate I will continue to stand by my statement in its original intent. (Cont.)
(Cont.) I think the word fascism could easily be used to describe many of Lincolns practices before and during the Civil War and therefore I wouldnt really be overusing buzzwords as you were so quick to accused me of earlier sir.
Over nothing? The problem I had with your comment was the part where you called me shallow and compared me to our detractors (i.e. yankees) which, btw, as I thoroughly explained earlier, I was not being. Now, had you simply said "Lets not overuse buzzwords" I would not have even given it a second thought but when you added the comparison to the "enemy", that is where I took offense. Sir, there are no hard feelings but I cannot just let someone compare me to a yankee and not say anything about.
....March 4th, 1861, Abraham Lincolns inaugural day. Not long after 12:00 the clouds part on what was a cold rainy day. Lincoln begins to give his speech. He pledges his personal support for a 13th amendment to the United States Constitution to forever protect slavery and its expansion. An amendment drawn up and passed in Congress by his own Republican party. The 7 seceded States could have come back to help ratify it and slavery may still be here today. They did not come back.
The U.S. govt. sacrificed 3,000 soldiers at Pearl Harbor in 1941 to the Empire of Japan; the U.S. govt. poisons and adulterates our water with the waste product sodium fluoride and the blood intoxicant known as lithium (as well as innumerable heavy metals and pesticides). The U.S. govt. clouds the skies with aluminum oxide and barium salt. I am able and willing to turn YOU over to Iraq's citizens for dispensation. Murder is murder. The murdering of children is especially abhorrent.
procommenter 1 year ago
God bless John Wilkes Booth. Sic Semper Tyrannis.
hungarygator 1 year ago 5
@TrevBenson lol. 1: Lincoln did not carve his own statue. 2: The fasces in the statue has no axe; which symbolize that the rights of the citizens are superior to the authority of the state. 3: Fasces has been used in numerous non-fascistic themes. 4: The fasces became a fascism symbol (with loads of other symbols) long after Lincoln. 5: Fasces depict strength trough unity. 6..
-I'm not an American and does not know to much about Lincoln, but that was a pore argument :)
You made me laugh tho :D
NorthXul 1 year ago
Thank you Thomas DiLorenzo for telling the true story. God bless you sir for the expose'.
FastPonyGT 1 year ago
sic semper tyrranus you lanky bearded motherfucker
ekeyra 1 year ago 2
Man's inhumanity to Man is a running, seemingly inescapable, theme throughout human history. The titular head of America's great 19th century bloodletting was Abraham Hitler Lincoln. Septicemia ruled the countryside throughout the mid-1860's. Forbearance demands forgiveness. Somehow, some way, righteousness shall triumph. Wide-scale institutionalized murder reduced the population of Cambodia from 7 million to 3 million in the 1970's. History is replete with atrocities.
procommenter 2 years ago
Consider this then: The origin of 'Fascist' as a perjorative was during the Spanish Civil War, when the Abraham Lincoln Brigade (American Communist volunteers) fought against the Falangists ("fascists"). It has become a word without meaning and it is overused by untrustworthy people everywhere. I'd like to think we are a cut above all of them.
justwannawatchvids 3 years ago
I would argue that Lincoln's Administration fits much of the definition of a fascist state. It was centralised, highly militarised, big industry strongly supported this political movement in general as it enriched the elite t the expense of the lives of the soldiers and the liberties of all.
PS The founder of the Falange argued his movement was something different from fascism and unique. After he was executed by the communists his movement was hijacked by the generals who changed it.
RedShirtArmy 3 years ago
I think Lincoln would have been our first president for life (instead of FDR) had he lived. The "election" of 1864 was a joke.
Luigi84289 2 years ago 3
@RedShirtArmy
Agree...the Northern Whigs had been for decades trying to promote and push Corporate Welfare into the Federal Government; Lincoln was the President who finally allowed it.
John Tylaer, a Whig himself, knew these measures were unconstitutional avd Veto'd them consistantly...pretty sad when you own Party President shoots you down.
Anyways, Lincoln did one good thing...took a bullet.
helltrackrider 1 year ago
Actually, the Reds called the social democrats "Social Fascists" well before the Sanish Civil War.
RohanRugby 2 years ago
The most useful point he makes is that ALL other Presidents are open to criticism but Lincoln is not. Tell only that to your reconstructed colleagues and their reaction should tell them everything about them that you need to know.
justwannawatchvids 3 years ago 3
Sic Semper Tyrannis!
magictricks3 3 years ago 2
Thank God I went to grade school in South Carolina in the 60's. My fourth grade teacher's grandfather fought in the war. She told me the real story. God bless you, Mrs. Corder.
steve0281 3 years ago 9
I went to a SC high school in the early 90's with a history teacher from Missouri who was proud of her Union ancestors and missed no opportunity to defame the Confederate Cause. I ended up teaching half of the class in order to point out the errors in our text book and in her version of history.
RedShirtArmy 3 years ago 6
With men like DiLorenzo, Walter Williams, and things like the internet and YouTube it is becoming increasingly difficult to hide the truth any longer. Our time will come.
steve0281 3 years ago 4
I'm glad we still have a few people out there that care about facts rather than the made up 'history' of the Civil War. Lincoln was the biggest terrorist in this countrie's history in my opinion...
guitarbandit7498 3 years ago 13
The biggest in the world. Who knows what would have happened if he wasn't silenced. He looked at himself as allpowerful. I have no doubt that one of the first things he would have done after the war was officially over and reconstruction was under way was ship off all the slaves. He kept advocating this and he was one of the last of the supporters of this type of emancipation.
Luigi84289 2 years ago
The entire educational system not excluding the institutions of higher learning, teach what to think instead of how to think. This is nothing new, if you are not fortunate enough to have informed parents. Then you will not be taught to question the status quo or rather the percieved staus quo.
"Is Truth... Truth? or Percieved Truth?"
Victors will always write history to suit them.
It's time to re-write OUR Southern History!
Imaroughboy 3 years ago 5
I had never noticed the fasces at Lincoln's right hand - how appropriate indeed. (The fasces is where the word "fascism" came from for those who didnt know).
Unfortunately it is true, anyone who has an opinion on race and isnt a "minority" is automatically labeled racist just as anyone who criticizes someone who had anything to do with "anti-racism" (which, btw, Lincoln surely didnt) is automatically labeled wrong. The truth, and therefore KNOWLEDGE, will set you free.
sparkywundermutt1 3 years ago 5
I don't think it's entirely fair to bring down the image of the fasces itself. It was a symbol of Law and Government to the Romans. Only in modern times has it taken another meaning, and that has more to do with Spanish Civil War lingo that carried over into WW2. Hence, every time we hear "fascist" we think of Hitler. I think that's a gross oversimplification considering the differences between Italy and their gaolers in Germany. Let's not overuse buzzwords - like our shallow detractors do.
justwannawatchvids 3 years ago
If you reread my previous comment youll notice I said the fasces was neither right nor wrong only that I had never noticed it at Lincolns right hand and that its name was the basis for which the word "fascism" came - both of which are absolutely true. As for my comment about the fasces presence at Lincolns right hand being appropriate I will continue to stand by my statement in its original intent. (Cont.)
sparkywundermutt1 3 years ago 2
(Cont.) I think the word fascism could easily be used to describe many of Lincolns practices before and during the Civil War and therefore I wouldnt really be overusing buzzwords as you were so quick to accused me of earlier sir.
sparkywundermutt1 3 years ago 2
Don't get defensive over nothing. We're on the same side.
justwannawatchvids 3 years ago
Over nothing? The problem I had with your comment was the part where you called me shallow and compared me to our detractors (i.e. yankees) which, btw, as I thoroughly explained earlier, I was not being. Now, had you simply said "Lets not overuse buzzwords" I would not have even given it a second thought but when you added the comparison to the "enemy", that is where I took offense. Sir, there are no hard feelings but I cannot just let someone compare me to a yankee and not say anything about.
sparkywundermutt1 3 years ago
....March 4th, 1861, Abraham Lincolns inaugural day. Not long after 12:00 the clouds part on what was a cold rainy day. Lincoln begins to give his speech. He pledges his personal support for a 13th amendment to the United States Constitution to forever protect slavery and its expansion. An amendment drawn up and passed in Congress by his own Republican party. The 7 seceded States could have come back to help ratify it and slavery may still be here today. They did not come back.
Lincoln=Devil
Joseph565112 3 years ago 3
Here's a short clip about the deification of Lincoln by pro-System historians.
RedShirtArmy 3 years ago