Tommy - Good Luck

[gordonissocoollike]

it the same time the system had two trails the first jury said not guilty and the perjury trial brought forward parcel of rogues whose stories were different even the dates were variable , they were well rehersed political assassins and murdoch collabirators, who should be ashamed they accepted money wrote columns and generally enriched themseves to over £250.000

[buckstoneboy]

@gordonissocoollike WAKEY WAKEY

[MikaShelley99]

At least he'll get what he always wanted: sex with lots of random strangers, in total privacy. Whether he likes it or not.

[gordonissocoollike]

Tommy is a fighter for a good cause and a good man his sex life and the dirt produced by the murdoch press was a campaign against all the left , only the silly egos of the witches can think they won anything! everbody knows politicians lie, have affairs and shag about theyve all done it. ! Its pretty sick to relish it and post this propaganda only murdoch is a winner here

[olrepas]

@gordonissocoollike You are so gullible. Remember what this guy has done - he LIED. Big time. And then dragged his poor wife through all sorts of hell to cover it up. Don't be such a sheep...

[robg71]

Tommy sheridan was 1 of the first guys at the doors of many people in Glasgow when the Bailifs were comming to take their goods for the Poll tax, he stood there and fought them all the way, he was arrested many times for this. He took on the Murdoch 'newspaper' empire the same orginisation who told lies about the Miners who told Lies about Hillsborough etc etc.

[wasabimanic]

Sheridan "I'm a socialist, I'm a trade unionist" now he can say "I'm a proven liar guilty of perjury, who fucked around

LMHO fucking made my Xmas! Left wing cunt PAY UP and SLOP OUT!

[buckstoneboy]

He goin to jail..and taken his poor wife with him

[jambun1]

Sheridan is human waste.

Pure unadulterated scum.

[carrso12]

Viva Tommy a man who stands up for the real people.

[richardsim555]

Legend

[jambun1]

Now the creep is in BigBrother

[jambun1]

sheridan is a fanny

[willa1971]

tommy sheridan is a treacherous leech who's lived off the blood of Scotland's dispossed but the host has got rid of this poisonous parasite

[freddy77777]

tommy sheridan is a fanny

[DropZoneRecords]

Why is it the SSP concentrate all their works on slating Tommy? Why dont they just get on with their own party and let Solidarity do their bit... in the end its only going to be socialists that benefit, the more the SSP slag him off the more voters they lose.

[TamHickey67]

you got rid of the most popular and praiseworthy guy you ever had in the party. Alan McCombes? geezabreK!

[MilitantTendency]

Yeah, just a shame he expected people to lie in court so he could make £200 grand for himself. 'Praiseworthy' indeed...

[mongobobo]

Yes, humans are equally capable of deceit as they are honesty. Equally capable of compassion as they are cruelty. Therefore, Socialism is a utopian ideal that can never exist in reality. The most fair system is one of regulated competition where those legitimatley strive for success have better chances than the lazy or corrupt.

[MilitantTendency]

"Capitalism is the absurd belief that the worst of men, for the worst of reasons, will somehow work for the benefit of us all."

John Maynard Keynes

I'd also say that those who seek to make more money by forcing down the pay and conditions of there employees whilst forcing them to work harder (i.e. capitalist bosses) are pretty 'lazy and corrupt'.

[mongobobo]

I don't necessarily disagree with your comment. However, I'd rather take my chances on a system where most of the money I earn stays with me, rather than being funnelled into a massive bureaucracy that is controlled by humans who most likely will be lazy and corrupt.

[MilitantTendency]

So you'd agree with me that we should seek to find the best route to abolishing the state (and said bureaucracy) in order to create a society based on the principle 'from each according to ability to each according to need'. Best of both worlds surely?

[mongobobo]

I'd agree with you. However, our societies are focused on materialism and greed. The kind of society you describe exists only in small nomadic tribes where possessions aren't as deified are they are for us. And with greed and materialism you will always have corruption. I wish it weren't so, but that is the way it is, my friend.

[MilitantTendency]

In some societies slavery was accepted as necessary, as was the divine right of kings. Just because at present people are socialised to think a certain way doesn't mean we can never change from that mindset, otherwise we'd have made very little progress over the course of history.

[mongobobo]

Slavery wasn't an innate part of Man's character. Slavery was a result of Man's propensity for greed and cruelty. My position is that we as humans can and should do good, but it is not necessarily the purview of any government. Doing good on behalf of your fellow Man should be done within smaller orgainizations with a specific goal.

[mongobobo]

A big problem with the Left is it's inability to focus. I've gone to some anti-war demos here and I am always frustrated by all of the fractured voices. There are pro-gay factions, anarchists, animal-rights, etc. etc., instead of it being a concise movement to prevent (I attended protests prior to the Iraq invasion) a war.

[MilitantTendency]

Various organisations use movements like the anti-war movement as a way of finding people who are disenfranchised with the status quo to recruit for their causes. It doesn't mean these groups weren't dedicated to the anti-war movement. You may think the left is unable to focus; I'd argue that we merely encourage people to focus on the larger problem of global capitalism that caused the Iraq war.

[mongobobo]

Yes and the unfortunate result is the corporate news media airs footage of people in purple wigs and painted faces or ski-masks and moltovs, which result in turning off many reasonable people who may be closer to the concept of stopping an unneccessary war, if only they saw it as a serious effort. I'm not saying gays and others shouldn't be there to help stop war, but let's not turn a serious subject as a reason to celebrate a circus.

[mongobobo]

contin. For example, I participate with kiva(dot)org. I've helped poor people in the 3rd world grow their small buisnesses so that they can benefit themselves and their communities.

[MilitantTendency]

The problem is that the general trend it towards such businesses being squeezed out by ever larger multinationals.

If you're going to make a 'human nature' argument you'd best define exactly what 'human nature' is and how it is independent from the society we live in. Could it not be that if a society was built based on cooperation and the principle 'from each according to ability to each according to need' individuals would think in terms of cooperation rather than greed?

[mongobobo]

Yes, in theory, we are in agreement. However, it is almost impossible to put the toothpaste back in the tube. We are where we are, my friend. I would submit to that all purely socialist states in the world have failed.

[MilitantTendency]

How we should react to what happened in states such as the Soviet Union is a complex debate, and one that cannot simply be dismissed as 'socialist states failing'. Is it not fair to say that the lack of internal democracy means that, certainly after 1924 the Soviet Union became a deformed workers state? Did the determination of Western countries to see Russia fail not undermine any hopes of helping to break down the state apparatus?

[mongobobo]

I have to agree with you somewhat on this point. However, again, such a system where all profit is equally distributed can never sustain itself for long. The exception would be Kibutzim, which have survived quite well. They however are small communities, not nations.

[MilitantTendency]

And yes, it may be hard to put toothpaste back in the tube, however given what we're talking about are new socialising influences rather than old ones if anything that goes against your argument.

[mongobobo]

In fact, there aren't any left with the exception of Cuba whose people live under a cruel dictatorship. My feeling is that orgainizations of humans need to be realitively small and have specific goals. Government should only focus on maintaining infrustructure and defense. That is it! With all the money we are able to keep instead of throwing down the collective drain of government 'nanny state' programs, we can orgainize together for individual goals.

[MilitantTendency]

But if your view of humans as self-interested is true then this would be a recipe for disaster! There would be nothing humans would refuse to do in order to get ahead, and those unable to keep up would be doomed to wretched poverty! Think of the atrocious conditions that were common in British industrial cities prior to the Second World War. Think of the poverty many (for example in Glasgow) still live in. Is this acceptable merely in order to fulfil some 'laissez faire' strategy?

[mongobobo]

contin. I am guessing I am not the only one. Great many others would too if they could keep more of their money or if they didn't assume that their tax dollars already do the work.

[mongobobo]

I challenge you to find someone who has never done a charatible act or donation. Again, I submit to you that we are all capable of great compassion while at the same time great indifference. As I mentioned before, I give to causes kiva(dot)org (check it out please), the ASPCA and others. Of course I earn a good income and can afford to do this.

[mongobobo]

Bottom line, my Libertarain utopia and your Socialist utopia, while being diameterically opposed have equally difficult chances of being successful. However, whereas Socialism has been tried by many nations, Libertarianism has not.

[gortch2007]

You can't even spell properly; it's "you're deluded" not "your deluded" as you put it.. You're probably one of the embittered SSP brigade and if you aren't should consider joining... without Tommy they have about as much credibility as you, you'd fit right in.

[MilitantTendency]

Which, ironically, is still more credibility than Tommy Sheridan.

[bigwullie]

Tommy is a pure waste of space

[nobodyjones1]

This is exactly the sort of vacuous filth the enemies of socialism spend their time and energy manufacturing, in the belief it is time well spent.

[zombierat86]

So expressing your feelings about the former convener of your party who lied and betrayed you and many others isn't a good use of your time? Who the hell are you? Your account is clearly just registered to troll Tommy videos and post lies.

[nobodyjones2]

People are quite bored of your 'feelings' judging by the under whelming response to this post. What they would appreciate is evidence. If your idea of socialism amounts to more unsubstantiated and false claims like the one you have just made about me then you prove that change is long overdue - tosser.

[zombierat86]

1)It's not my vid.

2) Tommy is the liar and you are supporting a sinking ship.

3) I have never once lied about TS. I stuck with the SSP because we told the truth. Got any evidence to prove otherwise?

[nobodyjones2]

*yawn*

[davycarton]

Good singer. Was this a burd from the SSP? I feel myself at night sometimes, does this mean I can't be a socialist?

[nobodyjones1]

What it means is, you can't get a girlfriend.

[nwsocialist]

I just pity the women around this deluded man.