here's an awkward question... if jesus were alive today... do you think he'd be happy with us calling him by a greek name and saying we read about him from roman document? do you think he'd be happy to see us celebrating his birthday at the wrong time of year during a week of gentile not jewish celebration? Or how about when he sees us worship on the day of the Sun rather than the 7th day, Sabbath, which is saturday?
@owlravencrow Well Saturday is a Pagan Day for Saturn Day. We worship on Sunday because that is the day Jesus was resurrected. And if Jesus were still on Earth today it wouldn't be good because that means he never acended. Anyway I remember you comment about the Underwater city. It does not prove your side... What makes you think it is 10,000 years old. And its more proof because the flood covered many cities so its more proof that the incidents in the Bible actually happened.
@Royman132 unfortunately, flood myths permeate all cultures and religions so saying that an ancient flood is proof of the bible would also mean it's proof of many other religions including the so-called pagans religions of the ancient native americans, druids, greeks, hindus, and many other cultures. and to use the term pagan to this day is to still show your ineptitude for latin... pagan comes from the word pagani, which means 'country dweller' making it very roman to call them "hicks"
@Royman132 remember that the romans co-opted the christian religion placing their old temple priests in place of the churches clergy, edited the book, and forced people to follow it under punishment of death, excomunication, bansihment, and confiscation of wealth/land. to call a person a country dweller or pagan is to basically say they are an uneducated peasant from outside of civilized society. it is a very elitest and close-minded way of viewing your fellow neighbors.
@Royman132 being an insult to you neighbors is the least of your worries though if you happen to be a patriotic american because of the little philosophy of "all men (people) being equal"
as for your theory of there being no gap... unfortunately you are mistaken... scholars give a date no later than 40 A.D. for the death of the man now called Jesus Christ. they set the writing down of the books beginning in about 70-90 A.D. and if memory serves from paul. do you see a gap now?
@Royman132 again... to continue on with the idea of a gap there is definitely one between the birth of christ and the old testement as it was edited and added to by jewish elders during the formative centuries of their religion... in fact the E book as it is referred to was possibly made before the J book by 100 years and the D book was written maybe 100 or more years after both. The P book was maybe 100 yrs after the D book too! So there are many gaps in the so-called infallible word of god.
@owlravencrow and just so you know... the J, E, D, P, and R books are known to jews as the Pentatuech... maybe you should actually start reading up on your religious history... not to mention cold, hard facts.
@Royman132 apprently you think i haven't studied why the days of the week are named the way they are... but i have... origianlly all having names that refered to the ancient gods and the celestial bodies in the heavens such as friday... the day of love.... whose orignal names related to the planet named after the goddess venus. as for the sunken city... any city that appears just above the waterline of 10,000 BC... which was 90-100 lower today... counts as an ice age city from that time period
Jesus is saying something completely different than what Christians think. Christians who believe a bearded man in a sheet and sandals will greet them when they die are going to be disappointed. That Jesus, the man Jesus, no longer exists, but the truth and the life, the spiritual Jesus, does exist. People are worshiping the dead Jesus, because they do not know the living one. Go to TruthContest(dot)com, open The Present (with religion), and read at least the first 30 pages to learn the truth.
@vividDC Well quite the contrary we serve the living Jesus because he physically came back to life 3 days after his Death. His Physical body is still up there with him. Does he still have a beard and clothing that he wore on Earth I have no Idea, But he is not Dead, which is one of the things that separate him from Muhamed and Budha, those are dead but Jesus is ALIVE! IF you love Jesus than keep his commandments and teach and preach the Gospel.
@justicepartyuk It is impossible to claim wether or not God had prevented a war or saved lives. How do you know if he didn't save lives between the years 1939-1945? You are half true however about he helps people that help themselves. We cannot just sit around and pray hoping God will do something for us, we have to do our part which is how we show faith in him. He is saving lives everyday to those that repent and trust in Jesus from eternal death in in a place called Hell. Isn't that enough?
@erikman5 they sure will have a rude awakening when they die. GOD infinity to Atheists negative infinity. Atheists believe that a rock created life when a modern science lab can only help but copy the complex cell to create life. Life cannot start without already existing life. When you can explain how life came from dead things then we can move on to life afterward... it gets harder for atheists to win after that.
@BaurakAle7 OK, when Jewish activists led the crusade to "critique" WASPs and the WASP power structure, where those Jews guilty of wearing a tinfoil hat? When Jewish intellectuals spent generations slandering White history in America for the last 100 years, were they driven by a pathology? Why is it that when the lens is turned back on Jews, it suddenly becomes forbidden?
The same powerful Jews that more or less run Hollywood and the media, who mock and degrade Whites and Christians, that agitate for Political Correctness and Socialism here at home, that write history books that portray your White ancestors as criminal scum, does it bother you that these same people are playing you for a fool? They are taking your money, your children's lives and spitting on you in return.
@MegaSage007 And what makes you think I am wearing my "tech toys" as balls and chains?..... Wait that doesn't even make sense. Ball and chains are used to restrict, technology isn't restricting me. Besides, you are using it in basically the exact same way as me.
Oh, and your post will be removed from my page. If you don't allow people to post on your's what makes you think you can write on mine. You could have just as easily replied to my original comment.
@MegaSage007 I am not dumb, nor do I discredit something without knowing what it is I am talking about.
I have read the bible, and laugh at the quality. I would much sooner take Harry Potter, or The Lord of the Rings as the word of God, at least they don't have such drastic contradictions. Also I use them as an example because they are both written with your God, and the word of God in mind.
@Royman132 Sorry this is a little late, I wasn't aware that there was a reply. Exodus 32: 26-28 is one example. Now you have to be aware that this follows Exodus 32:15 where Moses brings down the tablets of the Ten Commandments. Oh I guess I should say that I am using the King James Version. I also know that it can be found in the New International Version as well.
@MegaSage007 That is pretty sad. Commenting on my page, not allowing post on your's, nor allowing me to send a message to you. So this is how we are going to do it. This is coming in parts because you won't even accept messages.
The bible saying that some people aren't going to be believers isn't a very good argument. There is nothing to which everyone believes without someone saying they are wrong. I am not dumb nor so I discredit something without knowing what it is I am talking about.
THE EXTRAORDINARILY SUPREMELY INTELLIGENTLY DESIGNED UNIVERSE REQUIRES AN EXTRAORDINARILY SUPREMELY INTELLIGENT OMNIPRESENT ETERNAL DESIGNER WITH OMNIPOTENT POWER TO HAVE MADE THE GLORIOUS UNIVERSE WHAT IT IS FROM A TO Z.
Its not that one is right and the other is wrong as they both have there faults because Its created by man. In this current state of consciousness we are looking for answers. Its silly to think the earth is 6,000 years old. You seem like a smart person, but dinosaur fossils? The same stories in the Bible in other cultures predating Jewish stories..maybe there's more to us then this, but as a personal god watching everything we do and condemning thought..I can't follow that idea. Its opinion
Well now im so glad to you have disproven atheism on YouTube.
Science tries to answer questions its not a religion its not even claiming that everything they say is right. Everything is in theory.
To have a book as the Bible saying it knows, and that these things us came from nothing as well, that it all just popped up from a invisible being. That says he loves the people he made and then goes and kills them. That slavery is fine, that women are 2nd class citizens.
And by the way, The premordial Soup is now an abandoned theory from the atheist scientists because of its sheer impossibility of life forming without already existing life. DNA as well as RNA cannot form without already existing DNA or RNA. Proteins are made up of Amino Acids which need to be made of the correct materials and in the perfect sequence or the life form will just not happen. The protein even if made had no chance of surviving without a cell to live in already. Atheism is disproved
I love how atheists think they know everything when they dont.
Atheist view- 6 billion years ago nothing craeted nothing and that nothing created dirt which created the heavens and the Earth and one day the rocks brought life into the world and our great ancestors were monkeys. and explosion created life.
Christian truth- 6015 years ago God created the Heavens and the Earth and all the life in it. Making sure that everything was perfect to support life.
@Royman132 actually you're wrong atheists assume they know nothing first... then they look for the answers... the beginning of the universe... which was 12+ million years ago. we did not spring out of nothing. energy erupted from the big bang and slowly formed atoms (like helium and hydrogen) and then larger atoms making molecules possible
your Christian truth- equals a gap of 4000 years discrepancy between the start of your timeline and that of the jews.... so you're wrong again.
@Royman132 just to clarify that statement i made at the end of my last comment.
proof of civilizations on earth have been found that predate your idea of the world being only 6015 years old.
in fact, we are now finding sunken cities off the coastlines of the world that prove man was around before the end of the last major ice age which was about 10,000 BC.
haven't you ever heard of a place called Gobeckli Tepe? it's right near mt' ararat... so i'd assume you'd find it interesting.
I personally don't give a shit for religion, I'd much rather live life to the fullest than waste my time caring about going to heaven or hell or my next life or any other out there bull shit when in reality I'm just going to end up decomposing in the ground forgotten for eternity
This is a waste of time. Ask a real Catholic those questions, not some actor who's paid to sound stupid. If Christianity were this absurd, it would not have survived 2,000 years as the largest religion in the world.
Why is it, any youtube video remotely about Religion starts a big fucking boring debate. Anyway, I was crying with laughter at "they would pounce on you. Kill you. You're being so stupid"
@BaurakAle7 O I'll admit I hadn't known what Virulent meant, I know what Atheist means... It didn't make sense to me because I was assuming you where currently an atheist. and the last part makes more sense now that you restated it, thanks.
you are right both sides do it. both either try to convert /persecute or simply don't care about the other side. I was just noticing that Atheists do it a lot more on Youtube... and this BS video just fuels it.
@BaurakAle7 I'm not trying to be insulting but I'm having a little bit of a hard time understanding your post...I'm assuming you meant "Violent*", "when i was an Theist"* and I can't make out this part "do you believe that there might be a slight possibility that someone named Jesus existed, then they go straight to the good-person-test.
but wait! there is more!....to undo the trick i say the other magic word...Oh, jesus, im sorry and i accept you like my lord!...and again, TA TAN...now im going to heaven!!! I can be like homer simpsonss in the bed of the hospital...bed up, bed down, hevens up, hell down! Isnt gods magic amazing?
look, look, a magic trick i just made.....At this moment im not going to hell.....and then i say the magic word....jESUS was gay!....and magically im sent to hell for blasfemy! TA TAN! Thanks for the love god!
@BaurakAle7 sooooooooooo, before jesus nobody was judge but they born whit the original sin too. When they die they went to the limbo or something. God wanted to save them and like he couldent just do it, he sent his son for redemption. From that point people can be saved or send to hell. The amount of suffer they recibe in hell is directly proportional to how much about jesus they knew. So am atheist living next to a church will suffer more than other .....mmmm, sounds like divine plan to me!
God created the ground you walk on & the designer body you live in. You wake up one day and realize you are walking around in a billion dollar body & the bill is not in the mailbox. The Sun lights your day, the rain waters crops & provides you with drinking water & the wind air conditions while the orbital Earth vehicle carries u a million 500,000 miles every 24hrs & still no bill in the box. All God asks of you is to obey ten commandments for the benefit of all & honour Christ your Creator.
THE EXTRAORDINARILY SELF SUSTAINING FINELY TUNED UNIVERSE REQUIRES AN EXTRAORDINARILY SELF SUSTAINING DESIGNER TO ESTABLISH AND FINELY TUNE IT OR THERE WOULD BE NO UNIVERSE.
@owlravencrow Jesus didnt commit suicide. He was a martyr. He died so people like you and me could be with him in heaven for eternity. In the end its not what a man does that defines who he is, its what his intentions were in doing it
@TheBaseballbeast20 ... well i call it suicide if you are going to let other people kill you just to prove your point by saying your willing to die for it. What if you were wrong, eh? like all those people that fought and died for hitler and what he said was the truth.
and while we're on the subject... why does god and omnipotent superbeing need us lowly mortals to be in his army? why does he say he loves us but damns the disobedient ones to eternal torture?
@TheBaseballbeast20 and why does god need to be worshipped forever under no exception?
you all good god sounds like a power hungry demon or a spoiled little brat of a kid.
no instead he gives us pain, suffering, death, created satan and all his minions knowing full well what they would do and what they would become, and he won't just make it abundantly obvious he exists. instead he lets us argue over a badly mistranslated book.
i think god is a scientific catch all for "i don't know"
@TheBaseballbeast20 again i say that if jesus was god... and god sent his only son (which was himself) to earth so that he could be killed for mans sins... and knew full well that it would happen.... then god, as jesus, commited suicide by allowing himself to be killed.
unless you think the romans were playing dr. jack kevorkian a couple thousnd years early... in which case, then the romans are actually guilty of murder... i mean assisted suicide.
@TheBaseballbeast20 so by your logic... "In the end its not what a man does that defines who he is, its what his intentions were in doing it" people that commit mass murder on "sinners" like the son of sam are actually going to heaven? his intention was to kill bad people. what about hitler? killed the jews and others to save his aryan race. guess his intentions must have been good according to your philosophy. after all he did it for the greater good not because he was psychotic jerk?
@TheBaseballbeast20 ... look at it this way... god intended to come to earth as jesus... then he intended to say things knowing they would make the romans and jewish elders mad... these ideas would make them so mad that they would arrest him, torture him, and kill him.... and he knew this.... remember when he told his disciples at passover... and the line "destroy this temple and i will rebuild it in three days." which you assume he meant his own body.
@TheBaseballbeast20 bet you didn't even know that the romans co-opted the bible when emporer constantine took over.... or that he forced the clergy at the time (former roman pantheon temple priests) to edit the book until all people could agree on the stories because they were the most popular? (coucil of nicea) so what you read today is a badly translated, horribly edited, and missing a few chapters type of book.
Get this... tektos (hand laborer) is jesus' occupation not carpenter. Wake UP
@kilrazer1 he doesnt send you to hell, you send yourself. He gives you the free will to make the right choice but you ignore it and pay the price. Its like if your teacher assigns a test and you dont study at all and you fail the test. Its not the teachers fault that you failed. Its your fault because you tried to take the easy way out and it didnt work.
@TheBaseballbeast20 It’s not free will if it’s given. A gun pointed to your head is not freedom of choice. It’s a celestial dictatorship; your teacher doesn’t set fire to you "forever” if you refuse to do the homework given. Any such proposition would have to be refuted by anyone possessing morality. Anyone requiring such a proposition would be primitive and should be negated any credence by definition of their demands by any sane rational being. Thank "god" this is a nasty work of fiction.
@MrTruthAddict believe what you want but the only thing your "perfect" science proves is that there is a creator because the big bang cant happen from nothing and also the intracacies with which things are made cant happen by chance. The flagella of a sperm cell moves at a rate of 10,000 rpm and people like you expect me to believe it happened by chance. You choose to not believe in Christianity or any other religion because your to afraid to have faith.
@MegaSage007 Hey men, maybe the universe is like internet, made by millions of gods desingers, where every web page is a rock, animal, etc...exscuse my english, it wasnt designed
@GaryTheSexOffender Gravity is 'just a theory' too. Try jumping off a building while repeating "Its just a theory, its just a theory" See if that helps you...
But before you do that, look up the scientific definition of the word 'theory' and then realize you just made a fool of yourself in front of millions of people on youtube.
@GaryTheSexOffender You used theory as in estimation which is just a slang term of theory. Theory is nothing to do with estimation, that's a hypothesis.
Those question are easy to answer. Only hard to explain for someone whose values are concentrated on their own ego. God's plan is actually really logical and rational, what's more loving - only for our sake. Being Almighty He loves us so much that He don't think only about Himself.
@MrChristocentric gods plan is really logical? still borns, cancer, famine, holocaust, 9/11, mental disablities, drunk drives walking away from crashed while kids die, malaria killing millions every year, a child in Africa dying every 3 seconds, aids, small pox killing 2 year old babies, whooping cough killing toddlers, child rapists walking on insanity grounds the mass murder of afircan civilians by rebels, justin beiber.oh wait all thats part of a divine plan im to ignorant to understand
@miamorhardstyle All this you've mentioned is called SIN. Sin is a disobedience to God's Law. We disobey, everyone else disobey, so we suffer from our wrong deeds or harms from other people. Full God's divine plan was apparent in the garden of Eden. But again, man wants to be god and the chain reaction starts.
God has no law. God is everything. The god you fancy..just heap of shit concocted from nasty old pornographic and bloody primitive savages minds. Evolve your consciousness. If you believe what Jesus said is the way, then you can tell that "God" is the ultimate sinner, because he punishes instead of forgives (eternally in fire). He lets us taste life, then he sends us to either eternal torment or a gaybar type of Heaven.Really, jesus would hate his father. God is EVIL.
@newmanfrigan I agree, Jesus would hate His father if the Father would be just like You said. I would hate Him too. Who told You that God will punish us in eternal suffering? Some man, yes. And it truly sound like a pornographic tale, but it's completely wrong. There is not even one thought in the Bible that He will do that. There are few times mentioned "eternal fire" which destroys everything. So, everyone who don't want to be with God will be destroyed, that's it.
@MrChristocentric ohhh and yea i forgot the classic comeback, thats mans free will doing that or thats the devils work, which by the way is not a vaild response since if the devil can do as he wants despite gods will then doesnt that make satan more powerful than god? and mans free will is bullshit to when others are hurt as a result
@miamorhardstyle Why Satan has the right to do some things? Because, when Satan attacked God for being a tyrant in front of all the Heavens. Satan asked Him to give the power over the Earth and said that he can do better than God. God could easily zap him, but how this would look in front of all the angels? He gave some ctrl.So, being as just as He is, He gives us the power to choose with whom we want to be. Onfortunately, free will isn't true. Because when we turn away from God, Satan grabs us.
@MrChristocentric lol ok, god lets the universe most evil being temp his children to try and get us to choose him, wow, if you can actually believe this shit i truly admire how blissful you are in your ignorance, fucking wow...
@miamorhardstyle That's because it's actually Satan who Christians worship. Any god like that is really the ultimate evil imaginable...his crimes know no end. I agree wih you 100%. What Zombies christians are. It's so ignorant, the fear tactics they forget were used to instill the Jesus Cult into themselves are the same ones they use on their own kids. Someday...hopefully, there will be an end to this shit. People should see Jesus as a Wise Man, a Buddha, but not part of this evil gods scheme.
@newmanfrigan I am a Christian and I truly believe You are right. I'm not offended at all because I know what it means to be a religious freak. I used to be one. But thanks to Christ, He helped me to find the real way - and it's trough live and true relationship with Him. Religion is a threat for us to thinking that going to church and listening to some man will save us... We have to strive to apply everything that Jesus told in our lives. Did Jesus build churches? No, He loved, cared and helped
@MrChristocentric thanks to your imaginary friend? religion isn't a threat - it's made up, its only a threat to women, gays, slaves, people who work on the sabbath day (sunday). As it clearly states in the bible. READ THE BOOK YOU CUNT.
@MrChristocentric Bwhahahaahah! That's funny! You know if you said that to a person who didn't know the story they'd think you were completely insane. Too bad there's a lot of fucking lunatics in the World, killing and slaying, lying, backstabbing, cheating, whoring, embezzling fraudsters out there peddling this shit...milking it for every last political point and nickle and dime. Christ sanctions the Death of the Planet, Genocide of Indians, Crusades, Worship of suffering death is EVIL.
Those are all really GOOD questions. We normally base our sense of reality on givens; a truly open mind would ask the obvious. We equate 'goodness' with innocence-- at what point does innocence become ignorant?
@GaryTheSexOffender You're using the layman's definition of theory, which is a guess or speculation, which you would know if you passed 10th grade science class. Technically, all science is is theories, but a scientific theory is much different from a religious one. In science, a theory is an explanation or model based on observation, experimentation and reasoning. It must be tested and confirmed by various scientists as a general principle helping to explain and predict natural phenomena.
so god hates suicide but he sent himself to die on the cross... he knew his actions would get him killed... and he did it so that he would get killed... but he didn't send himself to hell. just another example of someone in power playing the, "i'm in charge so i can break the laws," card.
@owlravencrow There is a difference between saying your life is worthless, and forfeiting your life for a greater good... like the salvation of others. This is what soldiers do every day. That is not suicide.
@SacrificeOfLove1 interesting you said soldiers... might i remind you that the government is too cheap to bring back all the weapons they send over so they sell them wholesale to arms merchants. these arms merchants then go on to sell to criminals, dictators, terrorist factions... etc. They my go for the greater good but some of them also commit crimes like in quantanamo bay, vietnam, japan, and every other war a soldier has been in. War is not a path to peace.
@SacrificeOfLove1 and might i add one more note... just because you believe you are right to do what you do does not mean you are right. and being in a situation where you forfeit your life is regretable but pretending that being a soldier does not involve death and destruction is an ignorant mindset. isn't it odd how some people join up because of a bad relationship with a former lover. they just maybe don't care anymore and know they might die. that sounds like suicidal thoughts to me.
@RobK130. That doesn't prove that you're an extremely ignorant asshole or anything. Just because you don't understand something doesn't mean it's not true or doesn't make sense. Do a little research before you open your mouth, then you won't make yourself look like a total idiot.
@MackandAlex what doesn't prove that? :/ i only have said that science is right but i believe there's a God at the centre of it all, not ignorant if you ask me!
Religion: Advocating the shameless indoctrination of children, suspension of the critical intellect, and just a little psychopathic rage since the dawn of man.
Atheism just says that there is no God. Humans have documented science that explains 90% of the rest of it, and we are getting closer to the rest every day.
@Naaaaaaayr Well I will still disagree with your point but since you seem to not read what I write then there're no point in continuing to argue with you.
I don't think you're reading what I'm writing. If a supremely-powerful being can control us, we do not have free will. That is not to say God does or does not exist, just that we do not have free will if he does exist.
We got into this because I am refuting your point about God letting me "choose" to be an atheist, which I feel I have done by now. God made me an atheist, as much as he made the tsunami strike Japan, or Hitler kill millions of innocents.
@Naaaaaaayr You're right about 1 thing, God could control us...but He doesn't. Free will is free and independent choice; voluntary decision. With free will you choose whether or not you want to follow God, and then you live your life accordingly. Simple.
@Naaaaaaayr About your comment to nuggestofchicken...God, unlike human, doesn't break a promise. When he gave us the decision to choose, He's keeping true to His promise. Just because someone knows what your going to do next doesn't mean you still don't have the free will to choose to do it or not.
I frickin' love this. Ben is firing questions at that well-meaning but overmatched vicar, while side-disputes between Ben and his sister keep breaking out as a result of her interjections. Very kid-like -- writers have an excellent "ear" for kidspeak -- but also demonstrating that it doesn't take much to call into question the Jesus myth, even if in a reductio ad absurdum fashion.
Christianity =The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...
Atheism = the belief that there was nothing and nothing happened to nothing and then nothing magically exploded for no reason, creating everything and then a bunch of everything magically rearranged itself for no reason what so ever into self-replicating bits which then turned into dinosaurs.....perfect sense.
lmao@RobK130 I made myself out of nothing and I'm so all powerful, all knowing and benevolent that I couldn't manage a permanent memory that explains everything to everyone at birth. Nah. One day they'll be able to write, I'll use young girls to create avatars to be sacrificed from time to time. The men will write conflicting books with inaccurate details about our universe and do terrible things for glorious me and my promises of paradise and torture chambers. It's all good, I've got a plan.
@RobK130 Um that's actually Christianity except you add an imaginary sky daddy into the mix. You are obviously completely ignorant when it comes to science. The universe doesn't owe you an apology just because it doesnt line up with your petty wish thinking. Study science if you want truth. Truth is not contained in those books concocted by Bronze age illiterate, uneducated goatherders.
@MrTruthAddict hey i didn't say science was wrong, i believe that the science that we have today is completely right, the only thing i dont really believe in is that it happened for no reason =)
i believe God made it all happen and there's no point arguing it out because none of us are gonna change our minds about it, im just saying i really do enjoy science - i study it alot and i think it can be true apart from lots of it are just theories (:
@RobK130 You fail to use the word 'theory' in it's proper scientific context, which you would know if you were a fan of science, or had even passed 10th grade science class. Technically, all science is is theories, but a scientific theory is much different from a religious one. In science, a theory is an explanation or model based on observation, experimentation and reasoning. It must be tested and confirmed as a general principle helping to explain and predict natural phenomena.
"The universe doesn't owe you an apology just because it doesnt line up with your petty wish thinking. "
Yes it does. My mind and thoughts are from the universe. As a conscious being, I represent the universe. So yeah, I make the rules around here, bitch.
@RobK130 That sounds just like Xtianity, except you invent an invisible man in the sky who knows how many hairs you have on your head and who cares about which football team wins the game...
@MrTruthAddict lol your right religion is not truth, i only believe in jesus he is far beyond any religion or truth that you will ever find, also have fun with your ''truth'' you will be searching a life time for it.
@gta44444444 Believing that a man came back from the dead is a religion. Its a fairy tale which has gained some respect somehow. Therefore it is a religion. Try to spin it however you like. Its the same as every other cult.
@gta44444444 im not spinning anything, and i don't believe cause it gives me hope i believe cause i know and seen something you haven't seen, that's why you call it a fairy tale. truly i have nothing to prove to you, you choose to follow truth, and you don't even know what truth is. your the type that believe everything comes with hard work, and not knowing that the work you work for it made by some rich man. if you search for truth in this world you will never find it, and i did change the sub.
@MegaSage007 Incorrect: Atheism=the belief that men of power scared ignorant men thousands of year ago into believing in an invisible sky fairy by telling them if they did not they would be tortured forever, and then using that fear to control them. Sadly those were the dark ages.... Christianity= hanging on to archaic silly dark ages superstitions because you have been brainwashed generation after generation. Wake up and study real science.
@MrTruthAddict You , me & him ? are all bound by a flesh prison ....we are SO much more than we know {how do i know that? } Well lets just say i have experiences beyond "known " understanding ....BUT - you must accept what i just said on faith - so either i am lying or delusional {of which i am sure you will accuse me of } or my WHOLE life is a lie .I doubt ,sincerely , that even jesus himself standing in front of you would convince you -you would be looking around for the smoke and mirrors
@MrTruthAddict Of course a metaphor and an anemone is the same animal to you, right? In the attempt of being different almost everybody look the same.
@MrTruthAddict Atheism = The beliefe that there was nothing and nothing happened to nothing and then nothing magically exploded for no reason, creating everything and then a bunch of everything magically rearranged itself for no reason what so ever into self-replicating bits which then turned into dinosaurs...
here's an awkward question... if jesus were alive today... do you think he'd be happy with us calling him by a greek name and saying we read about him from roman document? do you think he'd be happy to see us celebrating his birthday at the wrong time of year during a week of gentile not jewish celebration? Or how about when he sees us worship on the day of the Sun rather than the 7th day, Sabbath, which is saturday?
owlravencrow 7 months ago
@owlravencrow Well Saturday is a Pagan Day for Saturn Day. We worship on Sunday because that is the day Jesus was resurrected. And if Jesus were still on Earth today it wouldn't be good because that means he never acended. Anyway I remember you comment about the Underwater city. It does not prove your side... What makes you think it is 10,000 years old. And its more proof because the flood covered many cities so its more proof that the incidents in the Bible actually happened.
Royman132 7 months ago
@Royman132 The time that took in Genesis was about 4004 B.C. the New Testament was finished at 95 A.D. there is no Gap.
Royman132 7 months ago
@Royman132 unfortunately, flood myths permeate all cultures and religions so saying that an ancient flood is proof of the bible would also mean it's proof of many other religions including the so-called pagans religions of the ancient native americans, druids, greeks, hindus, and many other cultures. and to use the term pagan to this day is to still show your ineptitude for latin... pagan comes from the word pagani, which means 'country dweller' making it very roman to call them "hicks"
owlravencrow 7 months ago
@Royman132 remember that the romans co-opted the christian religion placing their old temple priests in place of the churches clergy, edited the book, and forced people to follow it under punishment of death, excomunication, bansihment, and confiscation of wealth/land. to call a person a country dweller or pagan is to basically say they are an uneducated peasant from outside of civilized society. it is a very elitest and close-minded way of viewing your fellow neighbors.
owlravencrow 7 months ago
@Royman132 being an insult to you neighbors is the least of your worries though if you happen to be a patriotic american because of the little philosophy of "all men (people) being equal"
as for your theory of there being no gap... unfortunately you are mistaken... scholars give a date no later than 40 A.D. for the death of the man now called Jesus Christ. they set the writing down of the books beginning in about 70-90 A.D. and if memory serves from paul. do you see a gap now?
owlravencrow 7 months ago
@Royman132 again... to continue on with the idea of a gap there is definitely one between the birth of christ and the old testement as it was edited and added to by jewish elders during the formative centuries of their religion... in fact the E book as it is referred to was possibly made before the J book by 100 years and the D book was written maybe 100 or more years after both. The P book was maybe 100 yrs after the D book too! So there are many gaps in the so-called infallible word of god.
owlravencrow 7 months ago
@owlravencrow and just so you know... the J, E, D, P, and R books are known to jews as the Pentatuech... maybe you should actually start reading up on your religious history... not to mention cold, hard facts.
owlravencrow 7 months ago
@Royman132 apprently you think i haven't studied why the days of the week are named the way they are... but i have... origianlly all having names that refered to the ancient gods and the celestial bodies in the heavens such as friday... the day of love.... whose orignal names related to the planet named after the goddess venus. as for the sunken city... any city that appears just above the waterline of 10,000 BC... which was 90-100 lower today... counts as an ice age city from that time period
owlravencrow 7 months ago
aha thats what i used to ask =P the pastor told me i had doubts and it was sin....lol
entree91 7 months ago
What episode's this from?
iPhoneGTI 7 months ago
@iPhoneGTI I think it was season two the first episode of outnumbered.
They don't look too old then. :)
283funnybunny 7 months ago
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have a look here - jesuspall(dot)com
jesuspall13 7 months ago
Young Skeptics FTW. lol
NessVlogMusic 7 months ago 2
These kids are blabering, incoherent! their hysterical!!!
i really need to go now... but i can make a logical argument against this video!
Meansofviewing 7 months ago
This is Mary, my assistant bridesmaid.
jamescfc1 7 months ago
Because it was one of the prophecies, kid. Read the bible.
davitodude 7 months ago
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In Nomine Dei Nostri Satanas, Luciferi Excelsi.
In the Name of Satan, Ruler of the Earth, True God, Almighty and Ineffable!
bhstone1 7 months ago
@bhstone1 Vade retro satanus.
ArsonistInUrFirewall 7 months ago
Sooooooooooooo cute!!!!!!!!
SavyBear 8 months ago
That little girl is so cute!
aunel2 8 months ago
Funny but about a minute too long
finderfinder100 8 months ago
Jesus is saying something completely different than what Christians think. Christians who believe a bearded man in a sheet and sandals will greet them when they die are going to be disappointed. That Jesus, the man Jesus, no longer exists, but the truth and the life, the spiritual Jesus, does exist. People are worshiping the dead Jesus, because they do not know the living one. Go to TruthContest(dot)com, open The Present (with religion), and read at least the first 30 pages to learn the truth.
vividDC 8 months ago
@vividDC Well quite the contrary we serve the living Jesus because he physically came back to life 3 days after his Death. His Physical body is still up there with him. Does he still have a beard and clothing that he wore on Earth I have no Idea, But he is not Dead, which is one of the things that separate him from Muhamed and Budha, those are dead but Jesus is ALIVE! IF you love Jesus than keep his commandments and teach and preach the Gospel.
Royman132 7 months ago
Those kids are so adorable!!!!!
2743bubbles 8 months ago
God never saved a life or prevented a war, God helps those who help themselves.
justicepartyuk 8 months ago
@justicepartyuk People that help themselves don't need god.
WestleyFSM 8 months ago
@justicepartyuk It is impossible to claim wether or not God had prevented a war or saved lives. How do you know if he didn't save lives between the years 1939-1945? You are half true however about he helps people that help themselves. We cannot just sit around and pray hoping God will do something for us, we have to do our part which is how we show faith in him. He is saving lives everyday to those that repent and trust in Jesus from eternal death in in a place called Hell. Isn't that enough?
Royman132 7 months ago
100 - 0 for the atheists
erikman5 8 months ago 2
@erikman5 they sure will have a rude awakening when they die. GOD infinity to Atheists negative infinity. Atheists believe that a rock created life when a modern science lab can only help but copy the complex cell to create life. Life cannot start without already existing life. When you can explain how life came from dead things then we can move on to life afterward... it gets harder for atheists to win after that.
Royman132 7 months ago
What is this show!? hahahahaha
yoingtin 8 months ago
@yoingtin we need kids like these in the US
mattukenobaka 8 months ago
@BaurakAle7 OK, when Jewish activists led the crusade to "critique" WASPs and the WASP power structure, where those Jews guilty of wearing a tinfoil hat? When Jewish intellectuals spent generations slandering White history in America for the last 100 years, were they driven by a pathology? Why is it that when the lens is turned back on Jews, it suddenly becomes forbidden?
Jasonlittlex 8 months ago
The same powerful Jews that more or less run Hollywood and the media, who mock and degrade Whites and Christians, that agitate for Political Correctness and Socialism here at home, that write history books that portray your White ancestors as criminal scum, does it bother you that these same people are playing you for a fool? They are taking your money, your children's lives and spitting on you in return.
Jasonlittlex 8 months ago
@MegaSage007 And what makes you think I am wearing my "tech toys" as balls and chains?..... Wait that doesn't even make sense. Ball and chains are used to restrict, technology isn't restricting me. Besides, you are using it in basically the exact same way as me.
Oh, and your post will be removed from my page. If you don't allow people to post on your's what makes you think you can write on mine. You could have just as easily replied to my original comment.
NinjaNakashima11 8 months ago
@MegaSage007 I am not dumb, nor do I discredit something without knowing what it is I am talking about.
I have read the bible, and laugh at the quality. I would much sooner take Harry Potter, or The Lord of the Rings as the word of God, at least they don't have such drastic contradictions. Also I use them as an example because they are both written with your God, and the word of God in mind.
NinjaNakashima11 8 months ago
@NinjaNakashima11 what contradictions are you talking about? can you name one?
Royman132 7 months ago
@Royman132 Sorry this is a little late, I wasn't aware that there was a reply. Exodus 32: 26-28 is one example. Now you have to be aware that this follows Exodus 32:15 where Moses brings down the tablets of the Ten Commandments. Oh I guess I should say that I am using the King James Version. I also know that it can be found in the New International Version as well.
NinjaNakashima11 7 months ago
@MegaSage007 That is pretty sad. Commenting on my page, not allowing post on your's, nor allowing me to send a message to you. So this is how we are going to do it. This is coming in parts because you won't even accept messages.
The bible saying that some people aren't going to be believers isn't a very good argument. There is nothing to which everyone believes without someone saying they are wrong. I am not dumb nor so I discredit something without knowing what it is I am talking about.
NinjaNakashima11 8 months ago
would jesus forgive someone if they punched him in the face? um yeah. He forgave the people who nailed him to the cross. Boy this is stupid...
danielkrye 8 months ago
Lol. "Lets put a guy is priest costume and have him act like a blubbering idiot." "Yeah, this will make people turn from faith!" "Mwahahahaha"
Bronzebulldozer 8 months ago 2
THE EXTRAORDINARILY SUPREMELY INTELLIGENTLY DESIGNED UNIVERSE REQUIRES AN EXTRAORDINARILY SUPREMELY INTELLIGENT OMNIPRESENT ETERNAL DESIGNER WITH OMNIPOTENT POWER TO HAVE MADE THE GLORIOUS UNIVERSE WHAT IT IS FROM A TO Z.
Read your Bible folks!
MegaSage007 8 months ago
Its not that one is right and the other is wrong as they both have there faults because Its created by man. In this current state of consciousness we are looking for answers. Its silly to think the earth is 6,000 years old. You seem like a smart person, but dinosaur fossils? The same stories in the Bible in other cultures predating Jewish stories..maybe there's more to us then this, but as a personal god watching everything we do and condemning thought..I can't follow that idea. Its opinion
whipnsnap 8 months ago
@royman
Well now im so glad to you have disproven atheism on YouTube.
Science tries to answer questions its not a religion its not even claiming that everything they say is right. Everything is in theory.
To have a book as the Bible saying it knows, and that these things us came from nothing as well, that it all just popped up from a invisible being. That says he loves the people he made and then goes and kills them. That slavery is fine, that women are 2nd class citizens.
whipnsnap 8 months ago
And by the way, The premordial Soup is now an abandoned theory from the atheist scientists because of its sheer impossibility of life forming without already existing life. DNA as well as RNA cannot form without already existing DNA or RNA. Proteins are made up of Amino Acids which need to be made of the correct materials and in the perfect sequence or the life form will just not happen. The protein even if made had no chance of surviving without a cell to live in already. Atheism is disproved
Royman132 8 months ago
I love how atheists think they know everything when they dont.
Atheist view- 6 billion years ago nothing craeted nothing and that nothing created dirt which created the heavens and the Earth and one day the rocks brought life into the world and our great ancestors were monkeys. and explosion created life.
Christian truth- 6015 years ago God created the Heavens and the Earth and all the life in it. Making sure that everything was perfect to support life.
Which one makes more sense?
Royman132 8 months ago
@Royman132 Neither, because you don't account for what created God.
Do a little more research before saying athiests believe 'nothing created nothing', btw
nytheprincess 8 months ago
@Royman132 actually you're wrong atheists assume they know nothing first... then they look for the answers... the beginning of the universe... which was 12+ million years ago. we did not spring out of nothing. energy erupted from the big bang and slowly formed atoms (like helium and hydrogen) and then larger atoms making molecules possible
your Christian truth- equals a gap of 4000 years discrepancy between the start of your timeline and that of the jews.... so you're wrong again.
owlravencrow 7 months ago
@Royman132 just to clarify that statement i made at the end of my last comment.
proof of civilizations on earth have been found that predate your idea of the world being only 6015 years old.
in fact, we are now finding sunken cities off the coastlines of the world that prove man was around before the end of the last major ice age which was about 10,000 BC.
haven't you ever heard of a place called Gobeckli Tepe? it's right near mt' ararat... so i'd assume you'd find it interesting.
owlravencrow 7 months ago
I personally don't give a shit for religion, I'd much rather live life to the fullest than waste my time caring about going to heaven or hell or my next life or any other out there bull shit when in reality I'm just going to end up decomposing in the ground forgotten for eternity
bunnygopoke 8 months ago
This is a waste of time. Ask a real Catholic those questions, not some actor who's paid to sound stupid. If Christianity were this absurd, it would not have survived 2,000 years as the largest religion in the world.
SacrificeOfLove1 8 months ago
@SacrificeOfLove1 It seems like me that christians scramble to come up with whatever they want to make their religion legit.
LarryTheMuffinman 8 months ago
@BaurakAle7 Go jam a bible up your arse
KuzinAvi 8 months ago
Why is it, any youtube video remotely about Religion starts a big fucking boring debate. Anyway, I was crying with laughter at "they would pounce on you. Kill you. You're being so stupid"
ImBoyCryWolf 8 months ago
@BaurakAle7 O I'll admit I hadn't known what Virulent meant, I know what Atheist means... It didn't make sense to me because I was assuming you where currently an atheist. and the last part makes more sense now that you restated it, thanks.
you are right both sides do it. both either try to convert /persecute or simply don't care about the other side. I was just noticing that Atheists do it a lot more on Youtube... and this BS video just fuels it.
babertron 8 months ago
@BaurakAle7 I'm not trying to be insulting but I'm having a little bit of a hard time understanding your post...I'm assuming you meant "Violent*", "when i was an Theist"* and I can't make out this part "do you believe that there might be a slight possibility that someone named Jesus existed, then they go straight to the good-person-test.
It's barking mad."
please clarify I truly do want to understand.
babertron 8 months ago
Wow so many people with angry, tainted feelings towards Christianity on youtube. It's sad.
babertron 8 months ago
This is wildly entertaining.
Oh, I meant the video not the useless YouTube debate.
leavesinthecity 8 months ago
@leavesinthecity This comment made me smile.
redstrabrerreez 8 months ago
Another comedy skit where the comments become a raging debate of science vs religion. How bout you all shut the fuck up and have a laugh?
KuzinAvi 8 months ago
but wait! there is more!....to undo the trick i say the other magic word...Oh, jesus, im sorry and i accept you like my lord!...and again, TA TAN...now im going to heaven!!! I can be like homer simpsonss in the bed of the hospital...bed up, bed down, hevens up, hell down! Isnt gods magic amazing?
estopaplus 8 months ago
look, look, a magic trick i just made.....At this moment im not going to hell.....and then i say the magic word....jESUS was gay!....and magically im sent to hell for blasfemy! TA TAN! Thanks for the love god!
estopaplus 8 months ago
@BaurakAle7 sooooooooooo, before jesus nobody was judge but they born whit the original sin too. When they die they went to the limbo or something. God wanted to save them and like he couldent just do it, he sent his son for redemption. From that point people can be saved or send to hell. The amount of suffer they recibe in hell is directly proportional to how much about jesus they knew. So am atheist living next to a church will suffer more than other .....mmmm, sounds like divine plan to me!
estopaplus 8 months ago
God created the ground you walk on & the designer body you live in. You wake up one day and realize you are walking around in a billion dollar body & the bill is not in the mailbox. The Sun lights your day, the rain waters crops & provides you with drinking water & the wind air conditions while the orbital Earth vehicle carries u a million 500,000 miles every 24hrs & still no bill in the box. All God asks of you is to obey ten commandments for the benefit of all & honour Christ your Creator.
MegaSage007 8 months ago
those r realy smart kids , potential islam converts inshallah
nagamora 8 months ago
I feel sooooo SORRY for that PASTOR!!!!!!!!!
hannahsullivan123 8 months ago
Lololololol
MegaMckinnon 8 months ago
THE EXTRAORDINARILY SELF SUSTAINING FINELY TUNED UNIVERSE REQUIRES AN EXTRAORDINARILY SELF SUSTAINING DESIGNER TO ESTABLISH AND FINELY TUNE IT OR THERE WOULD BE NO UNIVERSE.
MegaSage007 8 months ago
@owlravencrow Jesus didnt commit suicide. He was a martyr. He died so people like you and me could be with him in heaven for eternity. In the end its not what a man does that defines who he is, its what his intentions were in doing it
TheBaseballbeast20 8 months ago
@TheBaseballbeast20 so people before jesus dint go to heaven???? Oh, pour moises!!!!.....He was nice, except for the part where he killeds thousands
estopaplus 8 months ago
@TheBaseballbeast20 ... well i call it suicide if you are going to let other people kill you just to prove your point by saying your willing to die for it. What if you were wrong, eh? like all those people that fought and died for hitler and what he said was the truth.
and while we're on the subject... why does god and omnipotent superbeing need us lowly mortals to be in his army? why does he say he loves us but damns the disobedient ones to eternal torture?
owlravencrow 7 months ago
@TheBaseballbeast20 and why does god need to be worshipped forever under no exception?
you all good god sounds like a power hungry demon or a spoiled little brat of a kid.
no instead he gives us pain, suffering, death, created satan and all his minions knowing full well what they would do and what they would become, and he won't just make it abundantly obvious he exists. instead he lets us argue over a badly mistranslated book.
i think god is a scientific catch all for "i don't know"
owlravencrow 7 months ago
@TheBaseballbeast20 again i say that if jesus was god... and god sent his only son (which was himself) to earth so that he could be killed for mans sins... and knew full well that it would happen.... then god, as jesus, commited suicide by allowing himself to be killed.
unless you think the romans were playing dr. jack kevorkian a couple thousnd years early... in which case, then the romans are actually guilty of murder... i mean assisted suicide.
owlravencrow 7 months ago
@TheBaseballbeast20 so by your logic... "In the end its not what a man does that defines who he is, its what his intentions were in doing it" people that commit mass murder on "sinners" like the son of sam are actually going to heaven? his intention was to kill bad people. what about hitler? killed the jews and others to save his aryan race. guess his intentions must have been good according to your philosophy. after all he did it for the greater good not because he was psychotic jerk?
owlravencrow 7 months ago
@TheBaseballbeast20 ... look at it this way... god intended to come to earth as jesus... then he intended to say things knowing they would make the romans and jewish elders mad... these ideas would make them so mad that they would arrest him, torture him, and kill him.... and he knew this.... remember when he told his disciples at passover... and the line "destroy this temple and i will rebuild it in three days." which you assume he meant his own body.
jesus (god) came here knowingly to die.
owlravencrow 7 months ago
@TheBaseballbeast20 bet you didn't even know that the romans co-opted the bible when emporer constantine took over.... or that he forced the clergy at the time (former roman pantheon temple priests) to edit the book until all people could agree on the stories because they were the most popular? (coucil of nicea) so what you read today is a badly translated, horribly edited, and missing a few chapters type of book.
Get this... tektos (hand laborer) is jesus' occupation not carpenter. Wake UP
owlravencrow 7 months ago
@kilrazer1 he doesnt send you to hell, you send yourself. He gives you the free will to make the right choice but you ignore it and pay the price. Its like if your teacher assigns a test and you dont study at all and you fail the test. Its not the teachers fault that you failed. Its your fault because you tried to take the easy way out and it didnt work.
TheBaseballbeast20 8 months ago
@TheBaseballbeast20 It’s not free will if it’s given. A gun pointed to your head is not freedom of choice. It’s a celestial dictatorship; your teacher doesn’t set fire to you "forever” if you refuse to do the homework given. Any such proposition would have to be refuted by anyone possessing morality. Anyone requiring such a proposition would be primitive and should be negated any credence by definition of their demands by any sane rational being. Thank "god" this is a nasty work of fiction.
arniemazmax 8 months ago
@MrTruthAddict believe what you want but the only thing your "perfect" science proves is that there is a creator because the big bang cant happen from nothing and also the intracacies with which things are made cant happen by chance. The flagella of a sperm cell moves at a rate of 10,000 rpm and people like you expect me to believe it happened by chance. You choose to not believe in Christianity or any other religion because your to afraid to have faith.
TheBaseballbeast20 8 months ago
Very funny, nearly as much as the real thing....
babymicrobe 8 months ago
THE EXTRAORDINARY DESIGN OF THE UNIVERSE REQUIRES AN EXTRAORDINARY DESIGNER.
MegaSage007 8 months ago
@MegaSage007 Using capital letters doesn't make bullshit postings any more true!
atheistfromaustria 8 months ago
@MegaSage007 Hey men, maybe the universe is like internet, made by millions of gods desingers, where every web page is a rock, animal, etc...exscuse my english, it wasnt designed
estopaplus 8 months ago
@GaryTheSexOffender Gravity is 'just a theory' too. Try jumping off a building while repeating "Its just a theory, its just a theory" See if that helps you...
But before you do that, look up the scientific definition of the word 'theory' and then realize you just made a fool of yourself in front of millions of people on youtube.
MrTruthAddict 8 months ago
I laughed so damn hard
Welsby13 8 months ago
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lol funni
glisten789 8 months ago
lol funni
glisten789 8 months ago
Why do we have to fight over YouTube?
iloveyou141496 8 months ago
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InvincibleIrishman 8 months ago
@GaryTheSexOffender You used theory as in estimation which is just a slang term of theory. Theory is nothing to do with estimation, that's a hypothesis.
9hello123 8 months ago
lol jesus wasent a power ranger 1:21
Rise4theWeak 8 months ago
Those question are easy to answer. Only hard to explain for someone whose values are concentrated on their own ego. God's plan is actually really logical and rational, what's more loving - only for our sake. Being Almighty He loves us so much that He don't think only about Himself.
MrChristocentric 8 months ago
@MrChristocentric gods plan is really logical? still borns, cancer, famine, holocaust, 9/11, mental disablities, drunk drives walking away from crashed while kids die, malaria killing millions every year, a child in Africa dying every 3 seconds, aids, small pox killing 2 year old babies, whooping cough killing toddlers, child rapists walking on insanity grounds the mass murder of afircan civilians by rebels, justin beiber.oh wait all thats part of a divine plan im to ignorant to understand
miamorhardstyle 8 months ago
@miamorhardstyle All this you've mentioned is called SIN. Sin is a disobedience to God's Law. We disobey, everyone else disobey, so we suffer from our wrong deeds or harms from other people. Full God's divine plan was apparent in the garden of Eden. But again, man wants to be god and the chain reaction starts.
MrChristocentric 8 months ago
God has no law. God is everything. The god you fancy..just heap of shit concocted from nasty old pornographic and bloody primitive savages minds. Evolve your consciousness. If you believe what Jesus said is the way, then you can tell that "God" is the ultimate sinner, because he punishes instead of forgives (eternally in fire). He lets us taste life, then he sends us to either eternal torment or a gaybar type of Heaven.Really, jesus would hate his father. God is EVIL.
newmanfrigan 8 months ago
@newmanfrigan I agree, Jesus would hate His father if the Father would be just like You said. I would hate Him too. Who told You that God will punish us in eternal suffering? Some man, yes. And it truly sound like a pornographic tale, but it's completely wrong. There is not even one thought in the Bible that He will do that. There are few times mentioned "eternal fire" which destroys everything. So, everyone who don't want to be with God will be destroyed, that's it.
MrChristocentric 8 months ago
@MrChristocentric Tell me why god has to punish people by sending them to eternal fire?? Why did he decide to make the punishment so severe??
killrazer1 8 months ago
@MrChristocentric ohhh and yea i forgot the classic comeback, thats mans free will doing that or thats the devils work, which by the way is not a vaild response since if the devil can do as he wants despite gods will then doesnt that make satan more powerful than god? and mans free will is bullshit to when others are hurt as a result
miamorhardstyle 8 months ago
@miamorhardstyle Why Satan has the right to do some things? Because, when Satan attacked God for being a tyrant in front of all the Heavens. Satan asked Him to give the power over the Earth and said that he can do better than God. God could easily zap him, but how this would look in front of all the angels? He gave some ctrl.So, being as just as He is, He gives us the power to choose with whom we want to be. Onfortunately, free will isn't true. Because when we turn away from God, Satan grabs us.
MrChristocentric 8 months ago
@MrChristocentric lol ok, god lets the universe most evil being temp his children to try and get us to choose him, wow, if you can actually believe this shit i truly admire how blissful you are in your ignorance, fucking wow...
miamorhardstyle 8 months ago
@miamorhardstyle That's because it's actually Satan who Christians worship. Any god like that is really the ultimate evil imaginable...his crimes know no end. I agree wih you 100%. What Zombies christians are. It's so ignorant, the fear tactics they forget were used to instill the Jesus Cult into themselves are the same ones they use on their own kids. Someday...hopefully, there will be an end to this shit. People should see Jesus as a Wise Man, a Buddha, but not part of this evil gods scheme.
newmanfrigan 8 months ago
@newmanfrigan I am a Christian and I truly believe You are right. I'm not offended at all because I know what it means to be a religious freak. I used to be one. But thanks to Christ, He helped me to find the real way - and it's trough live and true relationship with Him. Religion is a threat for us to thinking that going to church and listening to some man will save us... We have to strive to apply everything that Jesus told in our lives. Did Jesus build churches? No, He loved, cared and helped
MrChristocentric 8 months ago
@MrChristocentric thanks to your imaginary friend? religion isn't a threat - it's made up, its only a threat to women, gays, slaves, people who work on the sabbath day (sunday). As it clearly states in the bible. READ THE BOOK YOU CUNT.
PartyByMyself 8 months ago
@MrChristocentric Bwhahahaahah! That's funny! You know if you said that to a person who didn't know the story they'd think you were completely insane. Too bad there's a lot of fucking lunatics in the World, killing and slaying, lying, backstabbing, cheating, whoring, embezzling fraudsters out there peddling this shit...milking it for every last political point and nickle and dime. Christ sanctions the Death of the Planet, Genocide of Indians, Crusades, Worship of suffering death is EVIL.
newmanfrigan 8 months ago
Hardest gig ever for the Vicar - interrogation by the kids from Outnumbered - so why didn't Jesus just Zap em ?
morganduffy154 9 months ago
Those are all really GOOD questions. We normally base our sense of reality on givens; a truly open mind would ask the obvious. We equate 'goodness' with innocence-- at what point does innocence become ignorant?
SpeedBalltheBand 9 months ago
@GaryTheSexOffender If are capable of reading, I suggest you read my last comment for the answer.
JannaBanana552 9 months ago
What a classic conversation !! Lol I love Karen!!
015Twilight 9 months ago
@GaryTheSexOffender You're using the layman's definition of theory, which is a guess or speculation, which you would know if you passed 10th grade science class. Technically, all science is is theories, but a scientific theory is much different from a religious one. In science, a theory is an explanation or model based on observation, experimentation and reasoning. It must be tested and confirmed by various scientists as a general principle helping to explain and predict natural phenomena.
JannaBanana552 9 months ago
Lovely accent :)
TheMasquerade6 9 months ago
so god hates suicide but he sent himself to die on the cross... he knew his actions would get him killed... and he did it so that he would get killed... but he didn't send himself to hell. just another example of someone in power playing the, "i'm in charge so i can break the laws," card.
get zapped believers!
owlravencrow 9 months ago 3
@owlravencrow trololololol win =)
holyswordsmanoffaith 9 months ago
@owlravencrow There is a difference between saying your life is worthless, and forfeiting your life for a greater good... like the salvation of others. This is what soldiers do every day. That is not suicide.
SacrificeOfLove1 8 months ago
@SacrificeOfLove1 interesting you said soldiers... might i remind you that the government is too cheap to bring back all the weapons they send over so they sell them wholesale to arms merchants. these arms merchants then go on to sell to criminals, dictators, terrorist factions... etc. They my go for the greater good but some of them also commit crimes like in quantanamo bay, vietnam, japan, and every other war a soldier has been in. War is not a path to peace.
owlravencrow 7 months ago
@SacrificeOfLove1 and might i add one more note... just because you believe you are right to do what you do does not mean you are right. and being in a situation where you forfeit your life is regretable but pretending that being a soldier does not involve death and destruction is an ignorant mindset. isn't it odd how some people join up because of a bad relationship with a former lover. they just maybe don't care anymore and know they might die. that sounds like suicidal thoughts to me.
owlravencrow 7 months ago
@EzixuRS
Everybody poops! Some people just understand it, while others pretend they don't poop. It's a bit of an analogy to religion, I guess.
Naaaaaaayr 9 months ago
Scientific assholes
EzixuRS 9 months ago
@RobK130. That doesn't prove that you're an extremely ignorant asshole or anything. Just because you don't understand something doesn't mean it's not true or doesn't make sense. Do a little research before you open your mouth, then you won't make yourself look like a total idiot.
MackandAlex 9 months ago
@MackandAlex what doesn't prove that? :/ i only have said that science is right but i believe there's a God at the centre of it all, not ignorant if you ask me!
Evolution --> i know it happened
Big band --> may well have happened
What have i been ignorant about?
RobK130 8 months ago
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RobK130 8 months ago
Religion: Advocating the shameless indoctrination of children, suspension of the critical intellect, and just a little psychopathic rage since the dawn of man.
MrAudiovideodisco 9 months ago 2
"what would Jesus do"
Duplex18xPSN 9 months ago
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aaroncbmx98 9 months ago
@Naaaaaaayr Agreed, peace out brotha man
claytongilbert21 9 months ago
@claytongilbert21
You are serially misunderstanding me. I was responding to the claim that "there was nothing and nothing happened to nothing."
I would like to continue our discussion, but we seem to be missing each other's points.
Naaaaaaayr 9 months ago
@Naaaaaaayr Science does work...doesn't mean there isn't a god
claytongilbert21 9 months ago
@RobK130
No, not really. Actually both of you are wrong.
Atheism just says that there is no God. Humans have documented science that explains 90% of the rest of it, and we are getting closer to the rest every day.
Science: It works, bitches.
Naaaaaaayr 9 months ago 2
@Naaaaaaayr Well I will still disagree with your point but since you seem to not read what I write then there're no point in continuing to argue with you.
claytongilbert21 9 months ago
@claytongilbert21
I don't think you're reading what I'm writing. If a supremely-powerful being can control us, we do not have free will. That is not to say God does or does not exist, just that we do not have free will if he does exist.
We got into this because I am refuting your point about God letting me "choose" to be an atheist, which I feel I have done by now. God made me an atheist, as much as he made the tsunami strike Japan, or Hitler kill millions of innocents.
Naaaaaaayr 9 months ago
@Naaaaaaayr You're right about 1 thing, God could control us...but He doesn't. Free will is free and independent choice; voluntary decision. With free will you choose whether or not you want to follow God, and then you live your life accordingly. Simple.
claytongilbert21 9 months ago
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@claytongilbert21
Free Will: The power of acting without the constraint of necessity or fate; the ability to act at one's own discretion
You said: "just because someone knows what your going to do next doesn't mean you still don't have the free will to choose to do it or not."
Yes, it does. God knows what will happen, and he could control us if he wanted. We don't have free will.
Naaaaaaayr 9 months ago
Religion is bullshit. Yeah that's about it...
DemonicMonkey3 9 months ago
It's pretty obvious that Jesus existed and was the man they say He was, considering even non-Christians acknowledged His greatness.
Jpapi96 9 months ago
@Naaaaaaayr About your comment to nuggestofchicken...God, unlike human, doesn't break a promise. When he gave us the decision to choose, He's keeping true to His promise. Just because someone knows what your going to do next doesn't mean you still don't have the free will to choose to do it or not.
claytongilbert21 9 months ago
HAHAHAHAHAHA... thumbs up if this video was funny. :D
Unicorncorp 9 months ago
Is that a baby Emma Watson?
rocklobster182 9 months ago
@rocklobster182 No.
Metapopolis 9 months ago
Is this the last question ?..... NO ! :)
MsJoshyboi 9 months ago
I frickin' love this. Ben is firing questions at that well-meaning but overmatched vicar, while side-disputes between Ben and his sister keep breaking out as a result of her interjections. Very kid-like -- writers have an excellent "ear" for kidspeak -- but also demonstrating that it doesn't take much to call into question the Jesus myth, even if in a reductio ad absurdum fashion.
50zcarsman 9 months ago
jesus truly was and is not a power ranger. 1 Jeff 1.1
MrJcenter7 9 months ago 3
Christianity =The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...
MrTruthAddict 9 months ago 40
@MrTruthAddict
Atheism = the belief that there was nothing and nothing happened to nothing and then nothing magically exploded for no reason, creating everything and then a bunch of everything magically rearranged itself for no reason what so ever into self-replicating bits which then turned into dinosaurs.....perfect sense.
RobK130 9 months ago
lmao@RobK130 I made myself out of nothing and I'm so all powerful, all knowing and benevolent that I couldn't manage a permanent memory that explains everything to everyone at birth. Nah. One day they'll be able to write, I'll use young girls to create avatars to be sacrificed from time to time. The men will write conflicting books with inaccurate details about our universe and do terrible things for glorious me and my promises of paradise and torture chambers. It's all good, I've got a plan.
LictorCrotch 9 months ago
@RobK130 Um that's actually Christianity except you add an imaginary sky daddy into the mix. You are obviously completely ignorant when it comes to science. The universe doesn't owe you an apology just because it doesnt line up with your petty wish thinking. Study science if you want truth. Truth is not contained in those books concocted by Bronze age illiterate, uneducated goatherders.
MrTruthAddict 9 months ago 18
@MrTruthAddict If you love science so much, why won't you marry it?
gogolplex74 9 months ago
@gogolplex74
Good argument dickhead!
lolololort 9 months ago
@gogolplex74 Well perhaps I will : )
MrTruthAddict 8 months ago
@MrTruthAddict hey i didn't say science was wrong, i believe that the science that we have today is completely right, the only thing i dont really believe in is that it happened for no reason =)
i believe God made it all happen and there's no point arguing it out because none of us are gonna change our minds about it, im just saying i really do enjoy science - i study it alot and i think it can be true apart from lots of it are just theories (:
RobK130 9 months ago
@RobK130 You fail to use the word 'theory' in it's proper scientific context, which you would know if you were a fan of science, or had even passed 10th grade science class. Technically, all science is is theories, but a scientific theory is much different from a religious one. In science, a theory is an explanation or model based on observation, experimentation and reasoning. It must be tested and confirmed as a general principle helping to explain and predict natural phenomena.
JannaBanana552 9 months ago 10
@MrTruthAddict
"The universe doesn't owe you an apology just because it doesnt line up with your petty wish thinking. "
Yes it does. My mind and thoughts are from the universe. As a conscious being, I represent the universe. So yeah, I make the rules around here, bitch.
dancingwithcalvin 8 months ago
@dancingwithcalvin Burn!
GothicPredalienWolf 8 months ago
@RobK130 That sounds just like Xtianity, except you invent an invisible man in the sky who knows how many hairs you have on your head and who cares about which football team wins the game...
MrTruthAddict 8 months ago
@MrTruthAddict pseudo-intelectual idiot
gogolplex74 9 months ago
@gogolplex74 You must be a Christian. I can smell the judgemental spirit a mile away.
MrTruthAddict 9 months ago
@MrTruthAddict and you must be really ignorant atheist
gogolplex74 9 months ago
@MrTruthAddict how so? are you no a christian?
gta44444444 9 months ago
@gta44444444 Of course I'm not a Christian. I'm only interested in truth. Religion has nothing to do with truth...
MrTruthAddict 8 months ago
@MrTruthAddict lol your right religion is not truth, i only believe in jesus he is far beyond any religion or truth that you will ever find, also have fun with your ''truth'' you will be searching a life time for it.
gta44444444 8 months ago
@gta44444444 Believing that a man came back from the dead is a religion. Its a fairy tale which has gained some respect somehow. Therefore it is a religion. Try to spin it however you like. Its the same as every other cult.
MrTruthAddict 8 months ago
@gta44444444 im not spinning anything, and i don't believe cause it gives me hope i believe cause i know and seen something you haven't seen, that's why you call it a fairy tale. truly i have nothing to prove to you, you choose to follow truth, and you don't even know what truth is. your the type that believe everything comes with hard work, and not knowing that the work you work for it made by some rich man. if you search for truth in this world you will never find it, and i did change the sub.
gta44444444 8 months ago
@MrTruthAddict EXACTLY. You're point being??
gcmadeboy2 9 months ago
@MrTruthAddict Atheism = the illogical belief one can war against His Maker and win.
MegaSage007 9 months ago
@MegaSage007 How can someone war against a non-existent entity? You might think you can worship one, but don't put me in your delusional category...
MrTruthAddict 8 months ago
@MegaSage007 Incorrect: Atheism=the belief that men of power scared ignorant men thousands of year ago into believing in an invisible sky fairy by telling them if they did not they would be tortured forever, and then using that fear to control them. Sadly those were the dark ages.... Christianity= hanging on to archaic silly dark ages superstitions because you have been brainwashed generation after generation. Wake up and study real science.
robtay1963 8 months ago
@MrTruthAddict You , me & him ? are all bound by a flesh prison ....we are SO much more than we know {how do i know that? } Well lets just say i have experiences beyond "known " understanding ....BUT - you must accept what i just said on faith - so either i am lying or delusional {of which i am sure you will accuse me of } or my WHOLE life is a lie .I doubt ,sincerely , that even jesus himself standing in front of you would convince you -you would be looking around for the smoke and mirrors
TheMichaelseymour 9 months ago
@MrTruthAddict Of course a metaphor and an anemone is the same animal to you, right? In the attempt of being different almost everybody look the same.
NomenLog 9 months ago
@MrTruthAddict its not like that
UncleKornicob 8 months ago
@MrTruthAddict hahahah i am a christian but u still cracked me up ;P
94Lich 8 months ago
@MrTruthAddict Atheism = The beliefe that there was nothing and nothing happened to nothing and then nothing magically exploded for no reason, creating everything and then a bunch of everything magically rearranged itself for no reason what so ever into self-replicating bits which then turned into dinosaurs...
jamol3649 8 months ago
@jamol3649 people like you make me LOL
JoaoAndre7 8 months ago
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