There was a PEW study of US Religious Knowledge in 2009. There were 32 questions asked. Of the sample, Black people scored on average 13.8 out of 32 thats less than half, yet we top US religious measures in church attendance. I don't understand how people can be so quick to condemn others to HELL for a RELIGION not understood. Quoting scripture isn't it. LEARN the history of the faith and politics behind it. Start with King James(Church of England). KNOWLEDGE of HISTORY and SELF-LOVE is POWER!
You are a prime example of what Donnie was speaking on , you are lost & you have failed yourself into believing your lifestyle is okay. Im not here to throw stones , but know God is NOT pleased ! & from 4:41- 5:04 , you just reminded me of the devil , how he uses ones struggle to tempt them . not cool at all , nor funny !
@williamkroberts No problem ;) you seem to be an extremely intelligent young man, which i admire. just need a little direction. As the word of God says:
"Know ye not Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,"
Be NOT deceived !
Thats not taking a scripture and making it into something it's not , it's written there SIMPLE for all to understand.
@williamkroberts i'm not one of those gay bashers that think everyone is going to make it to heaven besides gays . NO ! all that sin against God aren't going to make it to heaven . the problem for me is when people try to justify their sins by saying they "can't help it" or whatever. when people in the church speak out on fornication(for example), you don't see folk making a billion videos on why fornication is right, do you?! when you sin against God ask for forgiveness & turn away from the sin
Romans 1:26-32 it's a shame man GOD never once ok'd homosexuality but this society has and it's brainwashing people man the devil tells you he comes to kill steal and destroy and what is homosexuality it's destroying humanity foreal this world is against GOD in every way the bible says in Revelation 21:27And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.
I stated this on a comment response. I know that homosexual sex is looked at as merely "physical attraction" and "lust". But there are instances in our world where straight people act outta must, too. Prostitution. Rape. One Night Stands. How are all of these right and "filed with love" when there are men who truely love each other? Weird thing is, gay men stay together longer than straight couples... ever wonder why? Gay relationships are NOT "physical attractions" in entirety. It's called love
You know what, I truly admire the boldness in this young man and the earthly intelligence that he speaks with. You are absolutely right about the unconditional love that God has for us all, however the reason I disagree is because it says in the bible, that lusting of the same sex is an abomination in the eyes of God and therefore it is not okay. Brother, I am not going to judge because it's not my job to do, but I have to abide by my beliefs and faith in the Word of God alone!
@biggtk First, I can list a bunch of verses that says that diverse sexualities are wrong, but that is not my aim; to be one of those fools that say someone is going to hell. Second, your body has EVERYTHING to do with, why do you think they call it "physical attraction"? It's literally something that your body yearns for, and I have verses for that also. The fact remains is that if a lie feels good we will make it truth, and you are felling good. You maybe a virgin, but the attraction feels good
@gewashington I have one question for that statement...if being gay is ONLY a "physical attraction", and gay men cannot love one another outside of the bedroom, then what about straight sex? All of the one night stands? those were love? the babies made out wedlock & end up in the foster care system, beaten, killed? those were God's plan? the rapes between straight men/ women... those were righteous because they happn'd with straight men/women? Staight sex can also be purely "physcal attraction".
@MrQuincy88 The difference between the two is that one is perversion and the other is not and the love that I speak of is Godly love. There is no way that a gay couple can experience the grace and love that God puts over holy matrimony BUT God does love them individually. Also all of the other scenarios you listed has nothing to do with God but of how the devil has tried to pervert the plans of God, God "wills that our souls would prosper"
@MrQuincy88 Lastly, did I ever say that straight sex couldn't be solely "physical attraction"....no. In fact of all what you said, from one night stands on down, are issues today because we have separated sex from love. None of that is love at all, we as a people have change the definition of love as well as other words. The definition of love is GOD, because GOD is LOVE. For this reason perversion with lust cannot be love, because that is exactly what same sex desires are, perversion with lust.
hey will visit my channel anytime man...Pastor McClurkin loves EVERYBODY& he is merely speaking from his experience to try to offer the the truth in Love to everybody. He is not trying to destroy you or anyone but to tell you the truth of the Commandments of God which is for your good, protection and your healing. Obviously, it's up to you if want to cooperate. The Bible in fact says love is not bout unrestraint but about TRUTH. If you believe behaviors have no consequences keep living awhile
hey will visit my channel anytime man... Pastor McClurkin loves EVERYBODY and he is merely speaking from his experience to try to speak the truth in Love to everybody. He is no trying to destroy you or anyone but to tell you the truth of the Commandments of God which is for your good, protection and your healing. Obviously, it's up to you if want to cooperate. The Bible in fact says loves is not about freedom, but about TRUTH. If you believe behaviors have no consequences keep living awhile
Read Romans 1:27, Leviticus 18:22, 1Corinthians 6 chapter, and in Genesis the story of Sodom and Gomorrah. You can NOT reconcile Christianity and Homosexuality. Its okay if you want to create your OWN religion. But dont INVENT your own form and then attempt to place God's stamp of approval on it. With Love...God Bless
@boyofjazz Read Deuteronomy 14:9-10 and Leviticus 11:9-12. Yes, the same Leviticus you mentioned. It's also an abomination to eat shrimps, shellfish and other seafood....sounds stupid right? But it's in The Bible. Why is there not as much passion to preach against restaurants who serve shrimp or the people who eat them as there is for gay people? It's all bullshit.
@Panamaschild The way that you know something is against God's Law is when you find it CONSISTENTLY throughout the Old Testament as WELL as the New Testament. Those counter arguments you offered are in the OLD Testament. In the NEW Testament, there is no reference to "shrimp" being a sin. HOWEVER, there are AMPLE references to homosexuality being a sin. It is THROUGHOUT the Bible. It is impossible for Christianity to be reconciled with this lifestyle because Christianity is based on SCRIPTURE.
@boyofjazz So why does the Old Testament even matter? I see this often with Christians. How you'll use the Old Testament when you need to, but at the same time, it's not good enough to be backed up on it's own. Either it has to be backed up by the New Testament like you said, or the Old Testament was created only for learning but not to follow because that's what the New Testament is for blah blah blah.
@Panamaschild Its clear that you are building a diversion from your original argument. Rather or not the Old Testament matters is irrelevant here. Thats for another discussion another day concerning theology. However what IS clear is that the Bible sings ONE SONG concerning homosexuality without ANY variation in its message. It is clear throughout scripture that God does NOT condone it. You can't pick and choose what you want to believe from the Bible. A Gay Christian is an oxymoron. #Truth
@boyofjazz "However what IS clear is that the Bible sings ONE SONG concerning homosexuality "
The bible doesn't mention anything about the gay sexual orientation. The problem is that people keep linking the definition of homosexuality with EVERY action of same gender sex. The bible condones pagan same sex rituals, as well as the action of heterosexual males having sex with men (sometimes abusing males: Romans 1).
@boyofjazz However, the bible never condemns men or women who court, date, marry, or fall in LOVE with someone of the same sex (in which natural sexual affection takes place).
"It is clear throughout scripture that God does NOT condone it."
In the scriptures God didn't even talk about it, much less condone it. But then again, God didn't exactly condone the abolition of slavery either did he?
@boyofjazz "You can't pick and choose what you want to believe from the Bible"
Perhaps not, but one can tell what is from God in scripture, and what is from the traditional beliefs of the men who lived during those ancient times. Unless you're suggesting that God condoned women who were not virgins during their wedding day being killed? While Conveniently not caring if Men were virgins or not?
"A Gay Christian is an oxymoron"
Not anymore then a left handed Christian is an oxymoron.
@biggtk - as you have several times before, you again offer many assertions with no proof or support. You do not find ANYWHERE in the New Testament canon God ordering/condoning the murdering of virgins (women or men)- always so easy for you to 'defeat' those strawmen arguments I guess. The scripture does make clear that it is a universal revelation of God with instruction and application in truth, righteousness, spirituality, morality & knowledge for all men in all time. Try the Gospel of John
@shieldsff "you again offer many assertions with no proof or support"
Proof: Deuteronomy 22: 20-21 (women who are not 'proven' to be virgins before marriage are killed). But there is no such law about men's virginity. Why? The old testament is STILL a part of scripture which has been deemed the word of God. So why then is it imperative that GOD kill non-virgin women, but not non-virgin men? Probably because it's a 'man-made' law, and not a law of God, which is my point.
@shieldsff "You do not find ANYWHERE in the New Testament canon God ordering/condoning the murdering of virgins (women or men)"
I believe I made my previous statement about 'Scripture', not just the new testament. And if you want a proclamation from the New Testament that sounds more like Man's law than God's law, then read 1 Corinthians 11:14 in which Paul says that it's unnatural for a man to have long hair.
"The scripture does make clear that it is a universal revelation of God with instruction and application in truth, righteousness, spirituality, morality & knowledge for all men in all time"
And where does scripture make this clear? I doubt the killing of virgin women, or the forcing of women to marry their rapist, has anything to do with righteousness, spirituality, morality, or knowledge.
Unaccording to todays popular belief, gay & lesbian is an abomination. Just like fornication and adultery is a sin! I aint no where near a saint but at least I'm not one to lie on God & say that He's ok with it, when He isnt. I have more respect for the gays & lesbians of the 60's, 70's, & even the 80's. At least they were man or woman enough to take responsibility for their actions & say that they shose to love someone of the same sex. This new generation is irresponsible and pathetic.
Dear williamkroberts please stop that dear this and dear that. It's so stupid and corny. No more of those changing camera angles and your corny not funny nor dramatic faces. Just make a normal video response next time and maybe people will take what you have to say seriously.
Question: are you a Christian? I am and I struggled (and still do) with what Donnie said. And I am completely honest with myself and know that my body would love to be Bi but I know that this is not acceptable in God's eyes, so I don't do it. I realize that it is a temptation and I do what the Bible says and rebuke it and it leaves. The fact that it leaves lets me know that it is NOT who I am but what is used to get me to fall. Also, can you find anywhere in the Bible where it says it's oaky?
@gewashington "Also, can you find anywhere in the Bible where it says it's oaky?"
Let me ask you a question gewashington. Can you find anywhere in the bible where is says that slavery in general is wrong and evil? Can you find it anywhere in the bible where Native Americans and a "new world" (The Americas) exist? If not, then why do you assume that something has to be in the Bible for it to be acceptable to God?
Your body has nothing to do with it. It is your natural God-given hormones that determine whether you are bisexual or not. Just because you actively date the same sex or have sex with the same gender, does not mean that you are not attracted to both sexes anymore. And it is the 'ATTRACTION' that makes you bisexual. Your flesh, or lust of your flesh has nothing to do with it. This coming from a lesbian virgin.
Can we as people of faith in our Lord Jesus Christ for once respond with love? I believe that homosexuality is wrong. However can we pray & love them anyway? I'm so tired of the anger that I see. God loves me! I'm fighting lust, a spirit of self loathing. I wanted to take my life...and came so close to. I wanted to take out this beautiful creation called "me"...and God knew and His grace still amazes me bc I'm here. Don't misunderstand we must tell the truth sin is sin bt dnt be selective
I also find it quite interesting the people in the gay lifestyle tend to use as a justifier that fact that God is love, that He loves everybody, come to jesus as you are and ect.... thats all fine and true but what about the part where God says there are things that are abomidable that He is not very pleased with those. "Leviticus tells us "Man shall not lie down with mankind as with womankind it is confusion" As intellectual as you are Will like Marvin Gaye...You gotta give it up-Homosexuality
I agree!!!! the person is not the perversion but the act is as is all acts of sin and when we identify our weaknesses which often lead to identifying our sin it is then we need to take it and us to the lord to be delivered and set free. I sat myself down at my church and took a sabaticle because I could not endulge in pornography, continue in the swingers lifestyle and wifeswap and be over Gods little ones no more than Tonex can rightfully Pastor Gods people and promote the gay lifestyle.
1Cor. 6:2-3 Do you not know that the saints [the saved; Christians] will judge the world? And if you are to judge the world, are you not competent to judge trivial cases? Do you not know that we will judge angels? How much more the things of this life! Prov. 3:21 My son, preserve sound judgment and discernment, do not let them out of your sight; John 7:24 Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment. Jer. 22:3 Thus saith the LORD; Execute ye judgment and righteousness.
At Galilee, the Decapolis, Jerusalem, Judea and the region across the Jordan, Jesus was talking to the multitudes gathered there after hearing of His message and of His healings to beseech them to not become like the pharisees and hypocrites who think they are above sin.
[that there are greater or the same sins in our own lives which we do nothing about or think we are above]? You hypocrite* [pointing out the sins of others while by pretense thinking of ourselves as above sin], first take the plank out of your own eye [sincerely ask the Lord for forgiveness and learn and live the Truth and Light by His Word], and then you will see clearly [be in a righteous position] to remove the speck from your brother's eye [to judge and to help him out of his bondage to sin]
Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye [point out his sins, "minor" in Jesus' example here] and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye [our own sins, even and especially those we will not admit, magnified by our selective blindness]? How can you say to your brother, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye,' [tell him of his "minor" sins] when all the time there is a plank in your own eye
Matt 7:2-5 "For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged [if we judge with an evil heart or dark intent, His judgment of us will reflect it; if we judge nobly with honesty and justice, His judgment of us will reflect that, too], and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you [if we use extremes or exaggerations or other ignoble means, our judgment will reflect it and judging with fairness and compassion will garner likewise in His judgment of us].
This verse is not speaking to not judging at all -- it is speaking to not judging unfairly or any other cheap and selfish way. Read the rest of the story ...
Matt. 7:1 "Do not judge, or you too will be judged."
This is the verse so many use to try to shame Christians for discerning poor behavior, ethics, morals, and values: the "judge not lest ye be judged" verse. So many times people, mostly teens have emailed us saying "judge not lest you be judged" regarding our analysis reports which reveal to their parents the content of movies. Using only Matt 7:1 is entirely incomplete.
10If you forgive anyone, I also forgive him. And what I have forgiven—if there was anything to forgive—I have forgiven in the sight of Christ for your sake, 11in order that Satan might not outwit us. For we are not unaware of his schemes.
homosexuality is a spirit that is against God. the devil wants to do everyting opposite God, Man and woman together will produce, man and man or woman and woman together does not produce, it's just the opposite of God, and yes you can be healed from this sin, sin is sin, therefore none of us are perfect, but our goal is to go towards perfection, Read your bible, even in Genesis He was against this homosexuality, also read Deuteronomy and in Revelation He was still against it.
And the Nicolaitans belief will not inherit the kingdom of God. what it is is that you can believe in God, and do whatever you want and still be saved. The fact is if all you had to do was to believe in God then there is no reason the devil himself should not be saved. it says clearly faith without works is dead and works without faith is dead. In Ephesians we find out that we are not fighting against flesh and blood, but agains principalities, spirits etc.
What is happening here is that, there is a lot of misunderstandings. First we need to realize that God doesn not hate people, He infact hates what we do. Sin brings a stench to the nostrils of God. And many people would disagree because well they lack biblical knowledge. in 1 Corinthians Ch6 verse 9, says clearly that homosexuals will not inherit the kingdom of God.
Ok..You said that God is about "Honesty" and Love...But what about in the bible when God says.."Be ye Holy for I am HOLY?''....What about when the bible talks about JESUS coming to die and shed his blood for YOUR sins. What about those factors of GOD? God said in his WORD that he will never leave us nor forsake us. The enemy plants seeds of homosexuality in people because HE knowns that it is SIN and enmity against GOD. GOD wants to LOVE and heal all those that are broken...
I really enjoyed your message and commend you for your stand, While I am not homosexual nor am I homophobic, I encourage you to continue to stand for what you believe in and fight for the freedoms that you are so justly entitled to. Keep on Pushin' my brother.
Truth, God is a God of love. But love doesn't mean approval or acceptance when you are wrong. I love my children, but I don't always approve of what they do. Bottom line: God has a standard.: its called HOLINESS. Homesexuality and holiness do not mix. No sin and holiness pleases God. The choice is yours to live as you choose, but stop saying Christians who speak out against sin are full of hate. If that were true, we wouldn't care where you spend eternity.
Always remember, it's the sin that God hates, not the person. The act is what he hates, and you have taken what Donnie said and turned "totally around". That stronghold spirit will make think you're right, and you are all wrong. All I'm going to say is read Romans 1:24-32, that should sum it all up. But of course you will turn that around as well.
@JustLovingJesus Romans 1:24-32 has been misunderstood for many years. It's falsely interpreted and preached in many Churches equating it to homosexuality generally speaking. Too few think to take that passage (and the few others) into its original ancient context. Go to Evangelicals Concerned ecwr dott orrg. There are many Christian pastors who no longer interpret those passages in the Medieval, anachronistic way that you and many others do.
Who said it's Ok? God said it's not okay, that's your gospel that it's ok, if you don't follow the diet you shorten the span of your life. If we disobey God w/sin we lose our souls.Tht's the truth, the lie is, you can sin and still go to Heaven, the Father and creator is saying don't sin and we still sin. We don't belong to ourselves we belong to the Lord God so we must do what he says do? makes sense? 2nd Thessalonians 2: 10-11 because they rcvd not the truth, God sends a strong delusion.
@Ashabobo Actually God didn't say anything at all about it. Jesus was silent about it. The religious mythology surrounding this discussion is rampant in far too many Evangelical Churches to the point it has become an obsession and in some cases a cult of homophobia. McClurkin has become a cult of sorts.
It was as if the choice was chosen for me; I remember when I directed the choir at the church that I attended for years and reveled to my former pastor that I was (then) struggling with homosexuality, the treatment, and the distance that I got from him...that is another story in itself. It wasn't until I learned to accept who I am and that God loves me no matter what, that I was able to become comfortable within my own skin. You out did yourself on this posting and I really appreciate it!
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Yes GOD loves you. HE died so that you can be free of the power of sin. That isn't the question. The question is, Do you love GOD? Your pain is quite obvious. And no matter what you say, you are not 'comfortable' you're still hurting because you've chosen to be the way that you are.
... thoughts of suicide; It is a hard thing to grow in an environment like mine ( I can only speak from my experience) and be told that you are not accepted, an outcast, doomed to hell no matter what, because of something that comes to you just as natural as walking... your sexuality. I was molested at the age of 4, that did not make me gay... My father was emotionally, physically and verbally abusive to me...that did not make me gay... I was raised around women, that did not make me gay...
@kanji79 u kno whut the funny thing iz...i have a friend who was molested by a man around the age of 9...he turned out straight but his twin brother turned out gay...wish someone wud respond to that
I watched all three videos and what was coming out of DM's mouth was not surprising to me at all. I grew up in the Pentecostal church... I am saved, filled with the Holy Ghost etc..and I am openly gay! I am now 30 years old, and I came out when I was 23 and serving in the military... growing up in church however and knowing that I was gay was not easy and it was very painful. It was people like DM who caused me to be depressed, have low self esteem, and even...
So well stated .....not sure if I commented the first time I saw this ..but I had to comment again .......so phenomenal ... well done such a heart-felt message ....so creatively presented ...stay blessed
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And what's that FREEDOM? What's your argument ?? and how does it supply to U??? UR FUNNY nice commercial-Help me better in your laim statement with facts-NO IDEAS, NO OPINIONS please - it's part of your test. Think before U reply.
part of my test? I don't know what you are talking about but what I can assure you is that this video expresses itself rather well without me having to readdress your misunderstandings of it.
I would recommend watch again or visit earlier comments.
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You all ready failed, Because I asked u what do u mean when u say freedom??-I read some of your statements which don't define your point #1 concerning Donnie-#2 I still would like to know your argument, because the bottom line is you can make a statement without it having a sound logical point, and last but not least I'll be blunt on this one-r u gay?? my questions were rearrange for ur understanding.
I love you man this is the truth! I think the puinshment from preaching hate is far greater, so donnie goodluck in your sad walk , btw you looked so happy with your life!!! NOT!
"Ignorance begets ignorance." Homosexuality is not a choice nor is it a spirit. Contrary to popular belief, opinions and teachings, homosexuality is not a choice. The word "homosexual" is not located in the original Hebrew or Greek text of the Bible. The word came into existence in the late 1800's. Jesus NEVER mentioned the subject in His teachings. Perhaps we should remain quiet as well. Selah...
Ken, I applaud your actions in addressing this controversial topic.
@bosstrainers I really would like to have these statements with reference, I have been studying the theory that there is no hell as a place of torment in the original texts. Apparently that belief was harvested from the Roman priests, when Rome meshed its pagan religious leaders into the newly adopted Christian state religion. I am curious as to what the verses about inheriting the kingdom say in the ancient Greek. (I.e. liars,homosexuals, sorcerers, etc. not inheriting the kingdom.)
@kombuchaempire i actually did a lil research on that...in the KJV the word homosexual is not in that verse. in fact, no one knos what that word actually means...it was translated as masturbators until the 20th century. I forgot the exact Greek word used but it cannot be found in any other greek literature other than that place in the bible. there is a greek word used for those who have same sex relationships, however that word is not used. also, the naming of those who will not inheret the
kingdom of God are related in groups of 3. for example, the first 3 types of sinners listed are all related in some way...and then the next 3 and so on...in the group where homosexuality is placed (in translations other than the KJV), the group does not match up, unlike the others mentioned in the verse
@bosstrainers Id sudgest you get a 1611 version then Nither fonicators not idolitors not covetous men nor homosexuals nor sodmites etc shall inherit the kingdom of GOD. OK heres on Genisis GOD created eve from adams rib and said for this cause shall a man his father and mother and be joined to his wife and the two shall be one flesh!! Terefore that is the only example of a GODly relationship. PERIOD!! Dont make excusees for your sin be reconsiled
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A very complexed subject,because in his preaching,Donnie is right. Homosexuality is outside the body of Christ, the Head Christ and the Body, the believers are the examples of the man, the head,and the woman,the body. (Ephes. 5:21-33) But when I saw this I saw a lack in the end.If you set people free, spirits come back and it can become worse than before.The spirits are strong and the young people must wage war,otherwise their lifes are in danger,they need guidance,one altar call isn't enough.
this is where it becomes problematic. What Donnie explicitly stated in his sermon, the comments that warranted my attention, is that being homosexual makes you a perversion and that it is the failure of the parents and the community to why these children have not been taught otherwise. That is destructive commentary and very much untrue.
My response to those statements have been, I havent been taught to be gay—so its the fault of no one to why I am. Gay, instead, is who I am.
The freedom that Im discussing is the same sort of freedom that a happens to a person who, after years of looking into the mirror and being dissatisfied with their face because it falls shy of representing the cultural standard of pretty, finally looks into the mirror to be accepting of their face as is. There are weights that plop from the shoulders when that freedom is tapped. It doesnt make susceptible to darker spirits, it allows you control of your life.
So to insist that young people must wage war against what you refer to as dark spirits is insisting that they must battle themselves in a war they had no say over and didnt cause. The internal fight that you are suggesting to our youth does not get won. There are adults that fought that fight as children and are suffering internally yet still.
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I understand your statement, it's very human to think that way and you're right to say that it's not the guilt of parents or or the community, it's your own choice, or there are circumstances on your way that you make that choice or other people did things why you couldn't make another choice at that moment. But ther's a beginning, when you made that choice, and after that, it got you and made you think you are like that, I'm not under estimate the problem, pray the Lord Jesus, he can help you.
But just in this last statement, Anointedtouch, i think you have underestimated the issues...because my question to you now is when did you make "the choice" to define your sexual orientation? When were you pitted with the decision to be straight, gay, or bi? when? because I can't tell you when and who asked me that question because if it were that simple or if I were given those options I would not have decided to be gay. Why would I choose to be such a despised minority?
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Life is always making choices,and I choose to be straight even before I knew the Lord as my savior.you don't have to marry,you choose to marry, you don't have to have sex,you choose for it.If you do what you don't want,you,yourselve don't do it but sin within you. That's where Paul in the bible has also difficulty with. I don't under estimate sexual spirits, they are very strong and don't want to leave easy, people must be very strong and bold to get rid of them, in the Lord Jesus it's possible
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At the other side. If people are not ready for battle they are in danger, so good teaching is neccesary because spirits are coming back after they are cast out and they can take 7 others with them stronger than them. And if young people are not aware of that, the spiritsattack them and tell them that they are not worthy and their lives are in danger then. So christian people must be carefull with this, because people are precious. The Lord Jesus loves everyone of us, He gave His Life for us!
The greatest message in this video begins at 5:11. You tried to push the empty bucket but it came back in your face. Just like you trying to push everything before 5:11 on us. Aint' workin....By the way, Yes God loves you...
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If that is your answer, I guess he was talking to everybody at the same time who is alive and experience "another day" (trees, animals, humans etc.) and you just overheard.
Very incorrect. I, like the trees, animals and other humans, was also included in the conversation. It wasnt anything I overheard. He spoke to every living thingjust like you suggested. And I, like yourself, am VERY much alive. Hasnt he spoken to you?!
time and time again you put up things that are entertaining and insightful and brilliant. Please don't stop. If there was someone like you around when I was coming out, MY life would be so different. You do your family, community and me proud. If we are family, my little brother, PREACH ON!! Because you may not know it, you may not be doing it for that purpose, but your words are saving lives.
so glad to see you've returned.... and I don't want to eve speak on it because unless you're in that position how can you judge or judge those who came from a struggle you overcame?? hypocritical Christians drain my life...
One more thing: So many people fail to realize that the stigmas tied to homosexuality push a great deal of homosexuals to God. They go actively searching for answers, actively building their faith, and actively getting to know God. There confusion draws them close to God and he does not turn them away, I know so many strongly religious homosexuals, but those who speak out against them never seem to know to much about religion just more about what they heard and dont understand.
Amazing response video. Refreshing even. Donnie McClurkin is speaking out on his beliefs, but for such a Gospel powerhouse he ought to know to teach love, he ought to know God is about acceptance, he ought to know to love thy neighbor, and he ought to know salvation is NOT about orientation but it is about a relationship with God.
SoParadoxical, you are so paradoxical. Do you expect Donnie to be your savior or Jesus Christ. Donnie is not the author of the bible he quoted from. Besides, are you going to spend your whole left denying yourself because someone disagrees with you. Stop watching his videos if you don't like what he says. EASY!
Very funny that you would say that, Jamie, because even like you responded to my video, as this video that I have made was in response to Donnies sermon, you said it best yourself.dont watch . But its obvious that youve watched my video long enough to form an opinion and it stirred you enough to speak even though you disagree with my message.
You sound a little paradoxical yourself, dont you think? *wink*
StillParadoxical.. You say it wasn't love because Donnie didn't say it the way you wanted it to be said. Don't read the bible then, because Jesus Christ turned over tables to get moneychangers out and HE IS LOVE! EOS
In my opinion no it wasn't love. There are ways to disagree with people without offending them.
Now tell me Jamie how can Donnie claim to love anyone in the gay community when he is very distinctly trying to seperate himself from it? That is not love my friend, God would never seperate himself from us, and that is a major difference.
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Lord help today! Donnie stated he felt perverted because of what was done to HIM, who r u to say how he should feel about his experience as a young CHILD???? been there done that so unless u have as well u r equipped to speak on it. Donnie has be transparent to help the young people who want to be delivered. his point was that homosexuality is a disease that they can be delivered from. there is room at the cross for u as well my brother
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There was a PEW study of US Religious Knowledge in 2009. There were 32 questions asked. Of the sample, Black people scored on average 13.8 out of 32 thats less than half, yet we top US religious measures in church attendance. I don't understand how people can be so quick to condemn others to HELL for a RELIGION not understood. Quoting scripture isn't it. LEARN the history of the faith and politics behind it. Start with King James(Church of England). KNOWLEDGE of HISTORY and SELF-LOVE is POWER!
jazzman2ez 1 month ago
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jazzman2ez 1 month ago
You are a prime example of what Donnie was speaking on , you are lost & you have failed yourself into believing your lifestyle is okay. Im not here to throw stones , but know God is NOT pleased ! & from 4:41- 5:04 , you just reminded me of the devil , how he uses ones struggle to tempt them . not cool at all , nor funny !
mdrichardson92 1 month ago
@mdrichardson92 I have failed myself!? please calm down. And thank you for watching.
williamkroberts 1 month ago
@williamkroberts No problem ;) you seem to be an extremely intelligent young man, which i admire. just need a little direction. As the word of God says:
"Know ye not Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,"
Be NOT deceived !
Thats not taking a scripture and making it into something it's not , it's written there SIMPLE for all to understand.
mdrichardson92 1 month ago
@williamkroberts i'm not one of those gay bashers that think everyone is going to make it to heaven besides gays . NO ! all that sin against God aren't going to make it to heaven . the problem for me is when people try to justify their sins by saying they "can't help it" or whatever. when people in the church speak out on fornication(for example), you don't see folk making a billion videos on why fornication is right, do you?! when you sin against God ask for forgiveness & turn away from the sin
mdrichardson92 1 month ago
Romans 1:26-32 it's a shame man GOD never once ok'd homosexuality but this society has and it's brainwashing people man the devil tells you he comes to kill steal and destroy and what is homosexuality it's destroying humanity foreal this world is against GOD in every way the bible says in Revelation 21:27And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.
BRANDONSD619 1 month ago
I'm 14 and this is so relevant. Great video.
NzuriDo 2 months ago in playlist Favorite videos
I stated this on a comment response. I know that homosexual sex is looked at as merely "physical attraction" and "lust". But there are instances in our world where straight people act outta must, too. Prostitution. Rape. One Night Stands. How are all of these right and "filed with love" when there are men who truely love each other? Weird thing is, gay men stay together longer than straight couples... ever wonder why? Gay relationships are NOT "physical attractions" in entirety. It's called love
MrQuincy88 10 months ago
that's "lust", not "must" lolz
MrQuincy88 10 months ago
I want first say thank you. This is the most intelligent response I heard to anyone's rant about homosexuality. Beautiful!
tsmoore2 11 months ago
i like your teeth you have a pretty smile
ATLNice 11 months ago
You know what, I truly admire the boldness in this young man and the earthly intelligence that he speaks with. You are absolutely right about the unconditional love that God has for us all, however the reason I disagree is because it says in the bible, that lusting of the same sex is an abomination in the eyes of God and therefore it is not okay. Brother, I am not going to judge because it's not my job to do, but I have to abide by my beliefs and faith in the Word of God alone!
muzikman757 1 year ago
@biggtk First, I can list a bunch of verses that says that diverse sexualities are wrong, but that is not my aim; to be one of those fools that say someone is going to hell. Second, your body has EVERYTHING to do with, why do you think they call it "physical attraction"? It's literally something that your body yearns for, and I have verses for that also. The fact remains is that if a lie feels good we will make it truth, and you are felling good. You maybe a virgin, but the attraction feels good
gewashington 1 year ago
@gewashington I have one question for that statement...if being gay is ONLY a "physical attraction", and gay men cannot love one another outside of the bedroom, then what about straight sex? All of the one night stands? those were love? the babies made out wedlock & end up in the foster care system, beaten, killed? those were God's plan? the rapes between straight men/ women... those were righteous because they happn'd with straight men/women? Staight sex can also be purely "physcal attraction".
MrQuincy88 10 months ago
@MrQuincy88 The difference between the two is that one is perversion and the other is not and the love that I speak of is Godly love. There is no way that a gay couple can experience the grace and love that God puts over holy matrimony BUT God does love them individually. Also all of the other scenarios you listed has nothing to do with God but of how the devil has tried to pervert the plans of God, God "wills that our souls would prosper"
gewashington 9 months ago
@MrQuincy88 Lastly, did I ever say that straight sex couldn't be solely "physical attraction"....no. In fact of all what you said, from one night stands on down, are issues today because we have separated sex from love. None of that is love at all, we as a people have change the definition of love as well as other words. The definition of love is GOD, because GOD is LOVE. For this reason perversion with lust cannot be love, because that is exactly what same sex desires are, perversion with lust.
gewashington 9 months ago
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hey will visit my channel anytime man...Pastor McClurkin loves EVERYBODY& he is merely speaking from his experience to try to offer the the truth in Love to everybody. He is not trying to destroy you or anyone but to tell you the truth of the Commandments of God which is for your good, protection and your healing. Obviously, it's up to you if want to cooperate. The Bible in fact says love is not bout unrestraint but about TRUTH. If you believe behaviors have no consequences keep living awhile
shieldsff 1 year ago
hey will visit my channel anytime man... Pastor McClurkin loves EVERYBODY and he is merely speaking from his experience to try to speak the truth in Love to everybody. He is no trying to destroy you or anyone but to tell you the truth of the Commandments of God which is for your good, protection and your healing. Obviously, it's up to you if want to cooperate. The Bible in fact says loves is not about freedom, but about TRUTH. If you believe behaviors have no consequences keep living awhile
shieldsff 1 year ago
Beautifully voiced. Thank you so much!
Stay blessed dear soul.
reclaimingself 1 year ago
This video is beautiful! Thank you so much for voicing this so beautifully!
Stay beautiful and blessed dear soul!
Much Love
reclaimingself 1 year ago
Read Romans 1:27, Leviticus 18:22, 1Corinthians 6 chapter, and in Genesis the story of Sodom and Gomorrah. You can NOT reconcile Christianity and Homosexuality. Its okay if you want to create your OWN religion. But dont INVENT your own form and then attempt to place God's stamp of approval on it. With Love...God Bless
boyofjazz 1 year ago
@boyofjazz Read Deuteronomy 14:9-10 and Leviticus 11:9-12. Yes, the same Leviticus you mentioned. It's also an abomination to eat shrimps, shellfish and other seafood....sounds stupid right? But it's in The Bible. Why is there not as much passion to preach against restaurants who serve shrimp or the people who eat them as there is for gay people? It's all bullshit.
Panamaschild 1 year ago
@Panamaschild The way that you know something is against God's Law is when you find it CONSISTENTLY throughout the Old Testament as WELL as the New Testament. Those counter arguments you offered are in the OLD Testament. In the NEW Testament, there is no reference to "shrimp" being a sin. HOWEVER, there are AMPLE references to homosexuality being a sin. It is THROUGHOUT the Bible. It is impossible for Christianity to be reconciled with this lifestyle because Christianity is based on SCRIPTURE.
boyofjazz 1 year ago
@boyofjazz So why does the Old Testament even matter? I see this often with Christians. How you'll use the Old Testament when you need to, but at the same time, it's not good enough to be backed up on it's own. Either it has to be backed up by the New Testament like you said, or the Old Testament was created only for learning but not to follow because that's what the New Testament is for blah blah blah.
Panamaschild 1 year ago
@Panamaschild Its clear that you are building a diversion from your original argument. Rather or not the Old Testament matters is irrelevant here. Thats for another discussion another day concerning theology. However what IS clear is that the Bible sings ONE SONG concerning homosexuality without ANY variation in its message. It is clear throughout scripture that God does NOT condone it. You can't pick and choose what you want to believe from the Bible. A Gay Christian is an oxymoron. #Truth
boyofjazz 1 year ago
@boyofjazz "However what IS clear is that the Bible sings ONE SONG concerning homosexuality "
The bible doesn't mention anything about the gay sexual orientation. The problem is that people keep linking the definition of homosexuality with EVERY action of same gender sex. The bible condones pagan same sex rituals, as well as the action of heterosexual males having sex with men (sometimes abusing males: Romans 1).
biggtk 1 year ago
@boyofjazz However, the bible never condemns men or women who court, date, marry, or fall in LOVE with someone of the same sex (in which natural sexual affection takes place).
"It is clear throughout scripture that God does NOT condone it."
In the scriptures God didn't even talk about it, much less condone it. But then again, God didn't exactly condone the abolition of slavery either did he?
biggtk 1 year ago
@boyofjazz "You can't pick and choose what you want to believe from the Bible"
Perhaps not, but one can tell what is from God in scripture, and what is from the traditional beliefs of the men who lived during those ancient times. Unless you're suggesting that God condoned women who were not virgins during their wedding day being killed? While Conveniently not caring if Men were virgins or not?
"A Gay Christian is an oxymoron"
Not anymore then a left handed Christian is an oxymoron.
biggtk 1 year ago
@biggtk - as you have several times before, you again offer many assertions with no proof or support. You do not find ANYWHERE in the New Testament canon God ordering/condoning the murdering of virgins (women or men)- always so easy for you to 'defeat' those strawmen arguments I guess. The scripture does make clear that it is a universal revelation of God with instruction and application in truth, righteousness, spirituality, morality & knowledge for all men in all time. Try the Gospel of John
shieldsff 1 year ago
@shieldsff "you again offer many assertions with no proof or support"
Proof: Deuteronomy 22: 20-21 (women who are not 'proven' to be virgins before marriage are killed). But there is no such law about men's virginity. Why? The old testament is STILL a part of scripture which has been deemed the word of God. So why then is it imperative that GOD kill non-virgin women, but not non-virgin men? Probably because it's a 'man-made' law, and not a law of God, which is my point.
biggtk 1 year ago
@shieldsff "You do not find ANYWHERE in the New Testament canon God ordering/condoning the murdering of virgins (women or men)"
I believe I made my previous statement about 'Scripture', not just the new testament. And if you want a proclamation from the New Testament that sounds more like Man's law than God's law, then read 1 Corinthians 11:14 in which Paul says that it's unnatural for a man to have long hair.
biggtk 1 year ago
@shieldsff "always so easy for you to 'defeat' those strawmen arguments I guess"
You mean strawmen like trying to use the New testament as an argument against my scriptural exegesis of the bible as a Whole?
biggtk 1 year ago
@shieldsff
"The scripture does make clear that it is a universal revelation of God with instruction and application in truth, righteousness, spirituality, morality & knowledge for all men in all time"
And where does scripture make this clear? I doubt the killing of virgin women, or the forcing of women to marry their rapist, has anything to do with righteousness, spirituality, morality, or knowledge.
biggtk 1 year ago
William , I love you, because you spoke to my heart and mind.
TuscanWonder995 1 year ago
This video is very good, very well said bro. I just subsribed. Check out my messages/videos when you get a chance. 1luv bro
freestylevideo411 1 year ago
Unaccording to todays popular belief, gay & lesbian is an abomination. Just like fornication and adultery is a sin! I aint no where near a saint but at least I'm not one to lie on God & say that He's ok with it, when He isnt. I have more respect for the gays & lesbians of the 60's, 70's, & even the 80's. At least they were man or woman enough to take responsibility for their actions & say that they shose to love someone of the same sex. This new generation is irresponsible and pathetic.
chawlatthai 1 year ago
I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE, LOVE everything about this video
alexiscentric 1 year ago
I was expecting to laugh when I saw this...but this touched me!
Jssavage2009 1 year ago
Dear williamkroberts please stop that dear this and dear that. It's so stupid and corny. No more of those changing camera angles and your corny not funny nor dramatic faces. Just make a normal video response next time and maybe people will take what you have to say seriously.
MrMrahill 1 year ago
I LOVE YOU >>>>> LOL
Tommy4503 1 year ago
This is incredible. Thank you so much.
moonweaver 1 year ago
Holliness or Hell!!!!
Wpitt01 1 year ago
Question: are you a Christian? I am and I struggled (and still do) with what Donnie said. And I am completely honest with myself and know that my body would love to be Bi but I know that this is not acceptable in God's eyes, so I don't do it. I realize that it is a temptation and I do what the Bible says and rebuke it and it leaves. The fact that it leaves lets me know that it is NOT who I am but what is used to get me to fall. Also, can you find anywhere in the Bible where it says it's oaky?
gewashington 1 year ago 9
@gewashington "Also, can you find anywhere in the Bible where it says it's oaky?"
Let me ask you a question gewashington. Can you find anywhere in the bible where is says that slavery in general is wrong and evil? Can you find it anywhere in the bible where Native Americans and a "new world" (The Americas) exist? If not, then why do you assume that something has to be in the Bible for it to be acceptable to God?
biggtk 1 year ago
@gewashington "my body would love to be Bi"
Your body has nothing to do with it. It is your natural God-given hormones that determine whether you are bisexual or not. Just because you actively date the same sex or have sex with the same gender, does not mean that you are not attracted to both sexes anymore. And it is the 'ATTRACTION' that makes you bisexual. Your flesh, or lust of your flesh has nothing to do with it. This coming from a lesbian virgin.
biggtk 1 year ago
Dear Sir: Please, repent.
Donatello586 1 year ago
@Donatello586 lol!!!!! Hilarious!
boyofjazz 1 year ago
Can we as people of faith in our Lord Jesus Christ for once respond with love? I believe that homosexuality is wrong. However can we pray & love them anyway? I'm so tired of the anger that I see. God loves me! I'm fighting lust, a spirit of self loathing. I wanted to take my life...and came so close to. I wanted to take out this beautiful creation called "me"...and God knew and His grace still amazes me bc I'm here. Don't misunderstand we must tell the truth sin is sin bt dnt be selective
tnell2005 1 year ago
I really loved this video. The peace and sincerity of this post speaks alot. Thanks
slim64ern 1 year ago
Hey......I like your video. You're right on point man!
Giving you a shout out and an "AMEN!"
Belflowers 1 year ago
Oh my sweet lord, when U said "somebody preach that in church I almost LOST IT!!!!! Really nice video.
patrickkumi 1 year ago
I MUST SAY...I HAD TO FACEBOOK THIS ONE.. I FELT EVERY WORD.. I GOT GOOSE BUMPS VERY GOOD TO KNOW IM NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO FEELS THIS WAY....
1GASTUNNA 1 year ago
You are awesome mr ken like barbie... you have a fan :)
Dc3atl 1 year ago
cute
galacticmode 1 year ago
wow
Mzangela09 1 year ago
keep it up! I LOVE it!
usarcat 1 year ago
i love the positiveness of this video...
rastagyal76 1 year ago
Really!!!!!!!!!!WOW!!!!!!!
plrw05 1 year ago
I agree with you. It's unfortunate that a lot of people just don't understand and don't want to understand. Thank you for this post.
MrCogicson1 1 year ago
Ha, that was funny, "Wanna cookie?" Good job with the video!
cpmkw 1 year ago
I also find it quite interesting the people in the gay lifestyle tend to use as a justifier that fact that God is love, that He loves everybody, come to jesus as you are and ect.... thats all fine and true but what about the part where God says there are things that are abomidable that He is not very pleased with those. "Leviticus tells us "Man shall not lie down with mankind as with womankind it is confusion" As intellectual as you are Will like Marvin Gaye...You gotta give it up-Homosexuality
bigsexyblondiedreads 2 years ago
I agree!!!! the person is not the perversion but the act is as is all acts of sin and when we identify our weaknesses which often lead to identifying our sin it is then we need to take it and us to the lord to be delivered and set free. I sat myself down at my church and took a sabaticle because I could not endulge in pornography, continue in the swingers lifestyle and wifeswap and be over Gods little ones no more than Tonex can rightfully Pastor Gods people and promote the gay lifestyle.
bigsexyblondiedreads 2 years ago
Phil. 1:10 so that you may be able to discern [judge] what is best and may be pure and blameless until the day of Christ...
Phil. 1:7 It is right for me to feel this way about all of you [judge you]...
pookster902008 2 years ago
1Cor. 6:2-3 Do you not know that the saints [the saved; Christians] will judge the world? And if you are to judge the world, are you not competent to judge trivial cases? Do you not know that we will judge angels? How much more the things of this life! Prov. 3:21 My son, preserve sound judgment and discernment, do not let them out of your sight; John 7:24 Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment. Jer. 22:3 Thus saith the LORD; Execute ye judgment and righteousness.
pookster902008 2 years ago
At Galilee, the Decapolis, Jerusalem, Judea and the region across the Jordan, Jesus was talking to the multitudes gathered there after hearing of His message and of His healings to beseech them to not become like the pharisees and hypocrites who think they are above sin.
pookster902008 2 years ago
[that there are greater or the same sins in our own lives which we do nothing about or think we are above]? You hypocrite* [pointing out the sins of others while by pretense thinking of ourselves as above sin], first take the plank out of your own eye [sincerely ask the Lord for forgiveness and learn and live the Truth and Light by His Word], and then you will see clearly [be in a righteous position] to remove the speck from your brother's eye [to judge and to help him out of his bondage to sin]
pookster902008 2 years ago
Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye [point out his sins, "minor" in Jesus' example here] and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye [our own sins, even and especially those we will not admit, magnified by our selective blindness]? How can you say to your brother, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye,' [tell him of his "minor" sins] when all the time there is a plank in your own eye
pookster902008 2 years ago
Matt 7:2-5 "For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged [if we judge with an evil heart or dark intent, His judgment of us will reflect it; if we judge nobly with honesty and justice, His judgment of us will reflect that, too], and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you [if we use extremes or exaggerations or other ignoble means, our judgment will reflect it and judging with fairness and compassion will garner likewise in His judgment of us].
pookster902008 2 years ago
This verse is not speaking to not judging at all -- it is speaking to not judging unfairly or any other cheap and selfish way. Read the rest of the story ...
pookster902008 2 years ago
Matt. 7:1 "Do not judge, or you too will be judged."
This is the verse so many use to try to shame Christians for discerning poor behavior, ethics, morals, and values: the "judge not lest ye be judged" verse. So many times people, mostly teens have emailed us saying "judge not lest you be judged" regarding our analysis reports which reveal to their parents the content of movies. Using only Matt 7:1 is entirely incomplete.
pookster902008 2 years ago
Whoever conceals his transgressions will not prosper,
but he who confesses and forsakes them will obtain mercy.
—Proverbs 28:13
10If you forgive anyone, I also forgive him. And what I have forgiven—if there was anything to forgive—I have forgiven in the sight of Christ for your sake, 11in order that Satan might not outwit us. For we are not unaware of his schemes.
pookster902008 2 years ago
you are a foolish man that's no excues but the gates of hell is real and that's the honest truth d.houston tx.
quin0103 2 years ago
@quin0103 Dear Quin, please calm down.
williamkroberts 2 years ago 5
AMEN, KLB. Amen.
loopyman76 2 years ago
homosexuality is a spirit that is against God. the devil wants to do everyting opposite God, Man and woman together will produce, man and man or woman and woman together does not produce, it's just the opposite of God, and yes you can be healed from this sin, sin is sin, therefore none of us are perfect, but our goal is to go towards perfection, Read your bible, even in Genesis He was against this homosexuality, also read Deuteronomy and in Revelation He was still against it.
exume22 2 years ago
And the Nicolaitans belief will not inherit the kingdom of God. what it is is that you can believe in God, and do whatever you want and still be saved. The fact is if all you had to do was to believe in God then there is no reason the devil himself should not be saved. it says clearly faith without works is dead and works without faith is dead. In Ephesians we find out that we are not fighting against flesh and blood, but agains principalities, spirits etc.
exume22 2 years ago
What is happening here is that, there is a lot of misunderstandings. First we need to realize that God doesn not hate people, He infact hates what we do. Sin brings a stench to the nostrils of God. And many people would disagree because well they lack biblical knowledge. in 1 Corinthians Ch6 verse 9, says clearly that homosexuals will not inherit the kingdom of God.
exume22 2 years ago
yeah that was pretty much awesome!! LOVE the beginning
907sfinest 2 years ago
Incredible!
adihsar 2 years ago
GREAT VIDEO
Euphorianna 2 years ago
i think i just fell in love with you.
theregen 2 years ago
I love you for this video!
etay1207 2 years ago
Ok..You said that God is about "Honesty" and Love...But what about in the bible when God says.."Be ye Holy for I am HOLY?''....What about when the bible talks about JESUS coming to die and shed his blood for YOUR sins. What about those factors of GOD? God said in his WORD that he will never leave us nor forsake us. The enemy plants seeds of homosexuality in people because HE knowns that it is SIN and enmity against GOD. GOD wants to LOVE and heal all those that are broken...
leonadams1 2 years ago
I really enjoyed your message and commend you for your stand, While I am not homosexual nor am I homophobic, I encourage you to continue to stand for what you believe in and fight for the freedoms that you are so justly entitled to. Keep on Pushin' my brother.
brwn16eyes 2 years ago
KLB rocks! Just sent it to my (supportive) parents!
timemasterTF 2 years ago
@timemasterTF God bless supportive Parents!
williamkroberts 2 years ago
Truth, God is a God of love. But love doesn't mean approval or acceptance when you are wrong. I love my children, but I don't always approve of what they do. Bottom line: God has a standard.: its called HOLINESS. Homesexuality and holiness do not mix. No sin and holiness pleases God. The choice is yours to live as you choose, but stop saying Christians who speak out against sin are full of hate. If that were true, we wouldn't care where you spend eternity.
rosabee61 2 years ago
Well said KLB! I can't fathom how someone could have so much self hate.
bigdezol 2 years ago
Always remember, it's the sin that God hates, not the person. The act is what he hates, and you have taken what Donnie said and turned "totally around". That stronghold spirit will make think you're right, and you are all wrong. All I'm going to say is read Romans 1:24-32, that should sum it all up. But of course you will turn that around as well.
JustLovingJesus 2 years ago
@JustLovingJesus Romans 1:24-32 has been misunderstood for many years. It's falsely interpreted and preached in many Churches equating it to homosexuality generally speaking. Too few think to take that passage (and the few others) into its original ancient context. Go to Evangelicals Concerned ecwr dott orrg. There are many Christian pastors who no longer interpret those passages in the Medieval, anachronistic way that you and many others do.
Rockymtntruth 2 years ago
@JustLovingJesus
Thanks for the invitation to your imagination, but I decline.
HATEFUL SUPERSTITION IS TOXIC.
TruthSerum101 2 years ago
Who said it's Ok? God said it's not okay, that's your gospel that it's ok, if you don't follow the diet you shorten the span of your life. If we disobey God w/sin we lose our souls.Tht's the truth, the lie is, you can sin and still go to Heaven, the Father and creator is saying don't sin and we still sin. We don't belong to ourselves we belong to the Lord God so we must do what he says do? makes sense? 2nd Thessalonians 2: 10-11 because they rcvd not the truth, God sends a strong delusion.
Ashabobo 2 years ago
@Ashabobo Actually God didn't say anything at all about it. Jesus was silent about it. The religious mythology surrounding this discussion is rampant in far too many Evangelical Churches to the point it has become an obsession and in some cases a cult of homophobia. McClurkin has become a cult of sorts.
Rockymtntruth 2 years ago 2
Wow. I got misty. Make them feel, and think....
TaylorSiluwe 2 years ago
@TaylorSiluwe I love you TaylorSiluwe. I love you
williamkroberts 2 years ago
Bravo!
I love this video!
Acynicsdream 2 years ago
That was hot...
Maybe Donnie Mac needs to talk or better yet listen to Donnie the new soul singer?
You are who you are.
GOD's gift to the world.
respect
darkdominance911 2 years ago 2
Amen and amen
dontbafraid2thinktv 2 years ago
this was awesome!
mrssarkazz 2 years ago
Beautiful ! We can tell our own story. Our destiny is ours to create!
jasonlawmadrid 2 years ago
It was as if the choice was chosen for me; I remember when I directed the choir at the church that I attended for years and reveled to my former pastor that I was (then) struggling with homosexuality, the treatment, and the distance that I got from him...that is another story in itself. It wasn't until I learned to accept who I am and that God loves me no matter what, that I was able to become comfortable within my own skin. You out did yourself on this posting and I really appreciate it!
kanji79 2 years ago
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Yes GOD loves you. HE died so that you can be free of the power of sin. That isn't the question. The question is, Do you love GOD? Your pain is quite obvious. And no matter what you say, you are not 'comfortable' you're still hurting because you've chosen to be the way that you are.
hgthomas1 2 years ago
... thoughts of suicide; It is a hard thing to grow in an environment like mine ( I can only speak from my experience) and be told that you are not accepted, an outcast, doomed to hell no matter what, because of something that comes to you just as natural as walking... your sexuality. I was molested at the age of 4, that did not make me gay... My father was emotionally, physically and verbally abusive to me...that did not make me gay... I was raised around women, that did not make me gay...
kanji79 2 years ago
@kanji79 u kno whut the funny thing iz...i have a friend who was molested by a man around the age of 9...he turned out straight but his twin brother turned out gay...wish someone wud respond to that
rastagyal76 1 year ago
This was very well said...
I watched all three videos and what was coming out of DM's mouth was not surprising to me at all. I grew up in the Pentecostal church... I am saved, filled with the Holy Ghost etc..and I am openly gay! I am now 30 years old, and I came out when I was 23 and serving in the military... growing up in church however and knowing that I was gay was not easy and it was very painful. It was people like DM who caused me to be depressed, have low self esteem, and even...
kanji79 2 years ago 2
Well Said.....loved it!!!!!
Sudais08 2 years ago
And then Bubbly plays....I love it! YESSSS!
anotharemix 2 years ago
So well stated .....not sure if I commented the first time I saw this ..but I had to comment again .......so phenomenal ... well done such a heart-felt message ....so creatively presented ...stay blessed
Backatwon 2 years ago
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And what's that FREEDOM? What's your argument ?? and how does it supply to U??? UR FUNNY nice commercial-Help me better in your laim statement with facts-NO IDEAS, NO OPINIONS please - it's part of your test. Think before U reply.
1misslili 2 years ago
part of my test? I don't know what you are talking about but what I can assure you is that this video expresses itself rather well without me having to readdress your misunderstandings of it.
I would recommend watch again or visit earlier comments.
williamkroberts 2 years ago
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You all ready failed, Because I asked u what do u mean when u say freedom??-I read some of your statements which don't define your point #1 concerning Donnie-#2 I still would like to know your argument, because the bottom line is you can make a statement without it having a sound logical point, and last but not least I'll be blunt on this one-r u gay?? my questions were rearrange for ur understanding.
1misslili 2 years ago
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Look like somebody gave up the ghost!!!
1misslili 2 years ago
I love you man this is the truth! I think the puinshment from preaching hate is far greater, so donnie goodluck in your sad walk , btw you looked so happy with your life!!! NOT!
martin2010ify 2 years ago
"Ignorance begets ignorance." Homosexuality is not a choice nor is it a spirit. Contrary to popular belief, opinions and teachings, homosexuality is not a choice. The word "homosexual" is not located in the original Hebrew or Greek text of the Bible. The word came into existence in the late 1800's. Jesus NEVER mentioned the subject in His teachings. Perhaps we should remain quiet as well. Selah...
Ken, I applaud your actions in addressing this controversial topic.
bosstrainers 2 years ago 6
@bosstrainers I really would like to have these statements with reference, I have been studying the theory that there is no hell as a place of torment in the original texts. Apparently that belief was harvested from the Roman priests, when Rome meshed its pagan religious leaders into the newly adopted Christian state religion. I am curious as to what the verses about inheriting the kingdom say in the ancient Greek. (I.e. liars,homosexuals, sorcerers, etc. not inheriting the kingdom.)
kombuchaempire 1 year ago
@kombuchaempire i actually did a lil research on that...in the KJV the word homosexual is not in that verse. in fact, no one knos what that word actually means...it was translated as masturbators until the 20th century. I forgot the exact Greek word used but it cannot be found in any other greek literature other than that place in the bible. there is a greek word used for those who have same sex relationships, however that word is not used. also, the naming of those who will not inheret the
rastagyal76 1 year ago
kingdom of God are related in groups of 3. for example, the first 3 types of sinners listed are all related in some way...and then the next 3 and so on...in the group where homosexuality is placed (in translations other than the KJV), the group does not match up, unlike the others mentioned in the verse
rastagyal76 1 year ago
@bosstrainers Id sudgest you get a 1611 version then Nither fonicators not idolitors not covetous men nor homosexuals nor sodmites etc shall inherit the kingdom of GOD. OK heres on Genisis GOD created eve from adams rib and said for this cause shall a man his father and mother and be joined to his wife and the two shall be one flesh!! Terefore that is the only example of a GODly relationship. PERIOD!! Dont make excusees for your sin be reconsiled
hummbug1 1 year ago
Thank You...
GonnaBRaw 2 years ago
no, thank you!
williamkroberts 2 years ago
YOU BETTA GO 'HEAD BOY!!!!!!!!!
GonnaBRaw 2 years ago
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A very complexed subject,because in his preaching,Donnie is right. Homosexuality is outside the body of Christ, the Head Christ and the Body, the believers are the examples of the man, the head,and the woman,the body. (Ephes. 5:21-33) But when I saw this I saw a lack in the end.If you set people free, spirits come back and it can become worse than before.The spirits are strong and the young people must wage war,otherwise their lifes are in danger,they need guidance,one altar call isn't enough.
anointedtouch 2 years ago
this is where it becomes problematic. What Donnie explicitly stated in his sermon, the comments that warranted my attention, is that being homosexual makes you a perversion and that it is the failure of the parents and the community to why these children have not been taught otherwise. That is destructive commentary and very much untrue.
My response to those statements have been, I havent been taught to be gay—so its the fault of no one to why I am. Gay, instead, is who I am.
williamkroberts 2 years ago
The freedom that Im discussing is the same sort of freedom that a happens to a person who, after years of looking into the mirror and being dissatisfied with their face because it falls shy of representing the cultural standard of pretty, finally looks into the mirror to be accepting of their face as is. There are weights that plop from the shoulders when that freedom is tapped. It doesnt make susceptible to darker spirits, it allows you control of your life.
williamkroberts 2 years ago
So to insist that young people must wage war against what you refer to as dark spirits is insisting that they must battle themselves in a war they had no say over and didnt cause. The internal fight that you are suggesting to our youth does not get won. There are adults that fought that fight as children and are suffering internally yet still.
There is no self-love greater than freedom. None.
williamkroberts 2 years ago
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I understand your statement, it's very human to think that way and you're right to say that it's not the guilt of parents or or the community, it's your own choice, or there are circumstances on your way that you make that choice or other people did things why you couldn't make another choice at that moment. But ther's a beginning, when you made that choice, and after that, it got you and made you think you are like that, I'm not under estimate the problem, pray the Lord Jesus, he can help you.
anointedtouch 2 years ago
But just in this last statement, Anointedtouch, i think you have underestimated the issues...because my question to you now is when did you make "the choice" to define your sexual orientation? When were you pitted with the decision to be straight, gay, or bi? when? because I can't tell you when and who asked me that question because if it were that simple or if I were given those options I would not have decided to be gay. Why would I choose to be such a despised minority?
when did you choose?
williamkroberts 2 years ago
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Life is always making choices,and I choose to be straight even before I knew the Lord as my savior.you don't have to marry,you choose to marry, you don't have to have sex,you choose for it.If you do what you don't want,you,yourselve don't do it but sin within you. That's where Paul in the bible has also difficulty with. I don't under estimate sexual spirits, they are very strong and don't want to leave easy, people must be very strong and bold to get rid of them, in the Lord Jesus it's possible
anointedtouch 2 years ago
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At the other side. If people are not ready for battle they are in danger, so good teaching is neccesary because spirits are coming back after they are cast out and they can take 7 others with them stronger than them. And if young people are not aware of that, the spiritsattack them and tell them that they are not worthy and their lives are in danger then. So christian people must be carefull with this, because people are precious. The Lord Jesus loves everyone of us, He gave His Life for us!
anointedtouch 2 years ago
The greatest message in this video begins at 5:11. You tried to push the empty bucket but it came back in your face. Just like you trying to push everything before 5:11 on us. Aint' workin....By the way, Yes God loves you...
youwashmeka123 2 years ago
i think i'm in love
pltnmprince2k 2 years ago
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What did God say to you when you told him this story? Just curious? Did he respond?
Jamie072 2 years ago
he did respond. and it was actually very positive. he allowed me another day. and i'm grateful.
williamkroberts 2 years ago
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If that is your answer, I guess he was talking to everybody at the same time who is alive and experience "another day" (trees, animals, humans etc.) and you just overheard.
Jamie072 2 years ago
Very incorrect. I, like the trees, animals and other humans, was also included in the conversation. It wasnt anything I overheard. He spoke to every living thingjust like you suggested. And I, like yourself, am VERY much alive. Hasnt he spoken to you?!
P.S.
Keep em coming, Jamie, youre fun!
williamkroberts 2 years ago
You rock! Thank you. Please keep up the great work. I am turning my Facebook friends on to you and they love you as well. Take care. -Rob
robnsac100 2 years ago
time and time again you put up things that are entertaining and insightful and brilliant. Please don't stop. If there was someone like you around when I was coming out, MY life would be so different. You do your family, community and me proud. If we are family, my little brother, PREACH ON!! Because you may not know it, you may not be doing it for that purpose, but your words are saving lives.
thank you
iam4u2nvstill 2 years ago
so glad to see you've returned.... and I don't want to eve speak on it because unless you're in that position how can you judge or judge those who came from a struggle you overcame?? hypocritical Christians drain my life...
JustJordanTV 2 years ago
**watching again** I think i will watch this and share this everyday!!!!! :
jayizmee 2 years ago
thank you jay. you are awesome.
williamkroberts 2 years ago
Wow that was phenomenal ..........so well said ...........and I am sure it well be a tool that will and should be used ........with much respect!!
Backatwon 2 years ago
One more thing: So many people fail to realize that the stigmas tied to homosexuality push a great deal of homosexuals to God. They go actively searching for answers, actively building their faith, and actively getting to know God. There confusion draws them close to God and he does not turn them away, I know so many strongly religious homosexuals, but those who speak out against them never seem to know to much about religion just more about what they heard and dont understand.
SoParadoxical 2 years ago
Amazing response video. Refreshing even. Donnie McClurkin is speaking out on his beliefs, but for such a Gospel powerhouse he ought to know to teach love, he ought to know God is about acceptance, he ought to know to love thy neighbor, and he ought to know salvation is NOT about orientation but it is about a relationship with God.
SoParadoxical 2 years ago
SoParadoxical, you are so paradoxical. Do you expect Donnie to be your savior or Jesus Christ. Donnie is not the author of the bible he quoted from. Besides, are you going to spend your whole left denying yourself because someone disagrees with you. Stop watching his videos if you don't like what he says. EASY!
Jamie072 2 years ago
Very funny that you would say that, Jamie, because even like you responded to my video, as this video that I have made was in response to Donnies sermon, you said it best yourself.dont watch . But its obvious that youve watched my video long enough to form an opinion and it stirred you enough to speak even though you disagree with my message.
You sound a little paradoxical yourself, dont you think? *wink*
williamkroberts 2 years ago
WKR - the paradox here is you responding to a biblical statement with a sexual innuendo. EOS
Jamie072 2 years ago
1) I do not expect anything from Donnie McClurkin. I know who my Lord and Savior is.
2) I dont deny myself or anything about me. I am very comfortable with who I am.
3) I watched his video to be informed no for my viewing pleasure.
So Jamie072 I would advise you not to speak out of turn, and to be weary of whom you attempt to criticize.
Your comments should be general or pertain to the video. :-)
SoParadoxical 2 years ago
Exceptionally spoken, SP....
DiAcorea 2 years ago
Thank you for the compliment.
SoParadoxical 2 years ago
StillParadoxical.. You say it wasn't love because Donnie didn't say it the way you wanted it to be said. Don't read the bible then, because Jesus Christ turned over tables to get moneychangers out and HE IS LOVE! EOS
Jamie072 2 years ago
In my opinion no it wasn't love. There are ways to disagree with people without offending them.
Now tell me Jamie how can Donnie claim to love anyone in the gay community when he is very distinctly trying to seperate himself from it? That is not love my friend, God would never seperate himself from us, and that is a major difference.
Have a good day sir :-)
SoParadoxical 2 years ago
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u r not equipped ti speak on it
Sexyroyalchild 2 years ago
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Lord help today! Donnie stated he felt perverted because of what was done to HIM, who r u to say how he should feel about his experience as a young CHILD???? been there done that so unless u have as well u r equipped to speak on it. Donnie has be transparent to help the young people who want to be delivered. his point was that homosexuality is a disease that they can be delivered from. there is room at the cross for u as well my brother
Sexyroyalchild 2 years ago
Very powerful...very true
ministertwan 2 years ago
wonderful video
SuperLadyofsoul 2 years ago
Thanks so much
Kengikat 2 years ago
Excellent video ..thank you.
jbskinnytv 2 years ago
Well said sir!
bigdezol 2 years ago
great vid...do you have the link to donnie's sermon?
ahope823 2 years ago
Very powerful man. Thank you so much. Donnie has no idea the damage he's doing to the psyche of so many young people and their loved ones.
JOEBLACK36 2 years ago
OMG yassssssss Preeeeeech it KEN!
sexywilly69 2 years ago
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Beautifully done, just like you !!!!!!
chocomel911 2 years ago
i love you ...and i want you on my show the couch ..thanks soo much for the we need more like you
blackretreat 2 years ago
I would love to be on your show sir.
williamkroberts 2 years ago