This is more propaganda than history. They put a very distinct swing on things, rather than being objective. Interesting to see their take, but it certainly isn't 100% true.
first of all, no matter what anyone said...the USA did invade Canada. Canada defended and and no offense to anyone but chased them back across the border where they continued to fight and ended up burning the White House and a lot of Washington with it. just saying. plus, Their were more USA deaths by about 3,500 soldiers.
the truth is this, no matter what happened in 1812, today, canada and great britain are america's bitches. we say jump, you say how high. we say bend over, you say give me another daddy
@Eddythebeast666 Hey, guess what? No matter what our economy is now or 20 years from now, Canada and UK will still have America's meat pole in their mouths. have a nice day. :)
@HandzarMitraljezac It's not absurd. It's happening as we speak. Your nation is trapped in an inescapable debt of 14 trillion dollars and rising, all the while nations such as China and India continue to rise in terms economic power.
Why do think Obama is trying to gain military bases in the Pacific? China is attempting to gain a blue water navy and the U.S is worried.
you need to read up on your history a little bit more, the war had many reasons, a lot had to do with strict trading embargos, the british also funded indians in an attempt to slow US expansion, so yes this ended up in the invasion of canada, it was a close call, just like the revolution, war is fought in the will. But look at reality who is the spear tip of almost every UN confrontation, to be honest America really only needs China and no one else.
@Giggity404 The 1812 war is a rather large subject as it ties in to the Napoleonic wars with many complex issues.
If your focus is the anthem then the bombardment of Ft. Henry in Baltimore was the event that inspired it. Baltimore was targeted because it was the staging grounds for US Privateers pirating upon British civilian shipping.
If you want info on most of the war then the PBS documentary is your best bet. The War of 1812 uploaded by juniebb03
I Have to do a stupid essay on this war. NOBODY KNOWS ABOUT THIS WAR!!! I HAD NO FRICKIN IDEA IT EXISTED UNTIL THEY MADE US WRITE IT URRRRRRGHHH!!! p.s. this essay, yea, it;s due on Monday.yay.
@cookies4lifeo The US invaded British Canada had your forces defeated & chased back in to the US then as major British invasion forces threatened your coasts, burned your capitol, with 6 states threatening secession & your economy in ruins the US was forced to sign a treaty that addressed nothing of the issues that you went to war over.
Yes indeed. And the Burning of Washington was a revenge attack for the U.S burning of Toronto. If the British had continued and not ended the war, the U.S would have beed decimated and now under British rule. But the British were adamant they had no intention and no desire to sack the U.S. Only to halt there invasion of Canada, and exact revenge for the Toronto burning. Americans that say they won know nothing of history and are frankly arrogant fools...
@engliscwarrior Well this is a military training film. Indoctrination of the troops should be expected I suppose so yes definitely propaganda.
I'm willing to give the devil his due, the US is a very impressive nation but WOW their history is is presented like Greek mythology It more fable then fact.
How can they function in the real world with such a warped perspective?
@USMarineRifleman0311 The Parliament building Printing house & Mayors home with some looting of private homes & abuse of the population.
You lost control of your troops which is a shameful disgrace not a point of pride. By violating the conventions of war you left the door open for retaliation in kind
@USMarineRifleman0311 Seeing as the British objective was to simply raid and destroy, the Chesapeake Campaign was a strategic British victory. Numerous towns and villages were taken, British forces handed Americans their "greatest disgrace" at Bladensburg, Washington was burnt down. And although the operation at Baltimore was a tactical failure, it represented strategic success as they removed its use as a major base for US privateers and took it out of operation.
The War of 1812: "Everybody's happy with the outcome of the War of 1812, Americans are happy because they think they won. Canadians are happier becuase they know they won. And the British are happiest of all because they've forgotten all about it." - Donald Hickey, Wayne State College, Nebraska
Lucky for the US that Britain was fighting the world's best and one of the largest armies at the time in Europe. It's a pity that this programme fails to point out that the burning of Washington was a punishment, for the previous burning of York in April 1813. That's Hollywood for you.
this isnt hollywood, this is a cold war era us navy instructional video on the development of history's largest navy.
The torching of Washington is irrelevant to the US naval force. Torching of a civilian structure is not war changing, 3 failed landings are, and thats where the British failed during the war.
usa sent a bill saying they would attach canada through the house of representives.. yes, they did try to.. and british north america beat them and burnt the whitehouse down... canada won
In the Video it is said the British were not repulsed in the Chesapeake. After Washington, they moved to take Baltimore. At the Battle of North Point, the British Army took something like 300+ casualties including MG Ross. The loss of Genrea Ross took the momentum out of the British land attack. The British Navy could not get past Fort McHenry. After Baltimore, the British withdrew and had not achieved anything of strategic significance. The US was still in the war.
the NW territories of Maine, basically all of New England, Great Lakes were lost by the Royal Navy herself, and some of the western frontier territories.
UK was forced to recognize the US in 1815, hence it was the 2nd war of US independence.
@USMarineRifleman0311 LOL ...Nope. It was the 1783 treaty of Paris (post war of independence treaty) that forced the UK to recognise U.S sovereignty.
The only reason the U.S was in any danger of losing its sovereignty in the 1812 war was because it had been dumb enough to attack British sovereign territory (Canada) and had to deal with the subsequent retaliation. Retaking the U.S was never really a British objective.
1812 was a Canadian war of independence (independence from U.S annexation).
you truly need to look up the defenition of independence .
We didnt even fully occupy canada for it to claim independence. To claim independence, Canada wouldve had to been an American colony and Canadians renamed to American citizens. You didnt win your independence, you got it from the UK because they could no longer use you.
OK ... you didn't fully occupy Canada. But HAD you fully occupied it then Canada would have not been independent from you. So it's safe to say that Canada was fighting for its freedom from U.S annexation ... hence, fighting for its independence from future U.S occupation.
The U.S wasn't a British colony in 1812 ... so how can you call it a "2nd war of independence"? According to your logic it is YOU who needs to look up the definition of independence lol.
@USMarineRifleman0311 Haha ... you idiot. I AM English, a quick glance at my channel is all you have to do to see where im from.
"Maple syrup drinking" ... Is that supposed to be an insult to Canadians? You burger munchers probably consume more maple syrup on your daily morning pancakes than the Cannucks do in a month.
The fact is that YOU guys invaded Canada and then ended up having to defend your own territory ... and you have the audacity to call it a "2nd war of U.S independence"?!?
We invaded canada, burned its capital and turned to the defensive because your big brother came yes.
And then we conquered the rest of the continent by buying it from the economically devastated French.
You didnt leave canada and go on the offensive, dont be fooling yourself. The veteran british army...veterans of waterloo failed to make 3 seperate landings on the eastern US seaboard. The british did set a civilian building on fire in Wash. but failed to take Ft Mchenry
@USMarineRifleman0311 What are you talking about? "your big brother came". Why cant you believe that your arguing with an Englishman here? .
Look, im not here to talk about who took what territory and shit like that ... all im doing is questioning your logic when you say that 1812 was a "2nd American war of independence". The UK never wanted a war with you guys ... YOU were the aggressors in that war.
Britain wasn't trying to reclaim the U.S so how can you call it a 2nd war of independence?
The St. Lawrence and Niagara Campaigns were both British victories. American invasion forces achieved nothing and were consistently beaten back by smaller British/Canadian forces.
Detroit was a US victory but that cannot count against us because you were simply regaining territory that you had lost at the beginning of the war. You were not making progress in your attempted conquest of Canada.
@USMarineRifleman0311 New Orleans was not the last battle and the victory was irrelevant as not only was the war already over it took place on the defensive. The war started as one of US conquest. British armies remained in US terrtory and won several battles after New Orleans.
The naval engagements are also irrelevant, by the war's end the USN was in tatters, the entire US merchant fleet had been eradicated and the entire eastern seaboard was under a massive blockade.
the NW territories of Maine, basically all of New England, Great Lakes were lost by the Royal Navy herself, and some of the western frontier territories.
UK was forced to recognize the US in 1815, hence it was the 2nd war of US independence.
@Love4SK The British made three major incursions into US territory, the Chesapeake, Plattsburg, and New Orleans. Each incursion was repulsed. The only results the British could show was thousands of casualties, including a number of senior leaders and no strategic gains. The British wanted to impose severe territorial concessions upon the US. They ended up actually making a concession - returning the part of Maine they had captured in the War.
Wait, I don't understand, how did the we win? We signed a treaty saying we would surrender and leave, that isn't a win. Objectives be damned, Hitler completed all his objectives in 1939-1940 in Western Europe for all the good that did him. @MegaTheBrit And you aren't including in your comment that there were many Native Americans and Canadians helping us, bringing that alliances tally up to around 13,650. I'm not saying we did a bad job, but we should give credit where credit is due.
1812 was a British phyrric military victory as always, just like Bunker Hill except the war ended in a treaty and a draw. The biggest mistake tough was not capitalizing on the successes. No territorial changes were made or gained by the victors.
In short, USA kept expanding, the war was almost entirely irrelevant.
Britain had a more formidable military, but they were engaged in a war with Napoleonic France. The British and U.S. signed a peace treaty 2 weeks before the Americans, Cajuns, and free Blacks defeated the British near New Orleans. The USA saved the UK's ass in WW1 and WW2.
@faelismaegnus Why do you guys always like to pretend that you "saved the UK's ass" in WW1 and WW2?
You HELPED us save mainland Europe from German occupation. Britain was never in any need of being saving.
I gotta be honest with you ... if an American ever had the front to tell me to my face that the U.S saved the U.K they would be spittin out teeth. Ive had enough of you guys saying that shit.
@gamblemadman we saved you. You guys were about to lose the war until we came in. Read your history stupid. Yes britian was under eminent attack, you guys basically begged us go to war. And you better thank russia. They also saved britian,france,etc. weak hide. You weak red coat,
@LilRedRasta Dont front kid, I'd fuck you up if you had the bottle to run your mouth to my face ... which you wouldn't cause you yanks are all talk and no minerals.
@gamblemadman try me. looks like i won the debate. you didnt even argue back with facts. Also come to america bitch. ilive in a hood where people have military guns like ak 47 and 50 cals, fucking grenade launchers. I live in one of the murder capitals of the us. So if you think you can do that, i will rip your ass a new one.what have your priviliged ass ever done? i almost starved to death had my family die in front of me and was held and shot a man to protect my family in katrina.try me bitch
@gamblemadman hahah losers always laugh it off like they just didnt get thier asses handed to them. youre backing off cause you know i would kick the shit out your bitch ass. goodbye fucker.
@gamblemadman and everything i said was true. i from new orleans louisiana. magnolia projects bitch. look us up. better yet see for yourself youtube.com/watch?v=0GdmHOJTW0Y
That whole debate needs to be re-worded. Hitler never gave a fuck about invading england enough after the Battle of Britain. Most of his troops were focused towards Russia, to the point where we reduced his troops in France to a mere occupying force. And this occupying force of resting eastern front veterans was what kept UK out of mainland Europe. Britain on its own was pushed out of Burma and SE Asia, Balkans, N. France and made 0 progress to get Europe back
@gamblemadman I deleted my comment. It was sent in outrage at your words which were dismissive of U.S. efforts in WWII. I have massive respect for British and Commonwealth military achievements, truly.
@Planetar17 I've never been dismissive of the U.S efforts in WWII, you misunderstood what I said.
I know the U.S played a massive part in that war, and I know you guys also helped out Britain after the war with recovery aid.
It pisses me off though when some Americans like to insist that the U.S somehow saved Britain from the Nazi's. I hear it all the time, almost like you guys are tought that shit in school or something.
Britain alone defended its islands from the Nazi's ... no one saved us.
@gamblemadman yes u did a very good job of defending ur land, but you cant say you alone would have won the war against germany, (for anyone who does not realize the nazis were a secret police force not the german army, they are different. so you cant say you defended ur islands from the nazis, you defended them from the germans.)
@pj1994fe Ok the Germans ... whatever lol. Same difference back then.
No one is saying that Britain could have won WW2 singlehanded lol. Obviously we couldn't ... no one could.
What I AM saying is that peeps from the U.S sometimes like to pretend that they saved the UK from German invasion ... they say we'd be speaking German if it wasn't for them "saving our asses". They completely ignore that we had already defeated the Germans on our own turf (our skys to be exact).
@gamblemadman maybe then but u do realize over half the german army was fighting russia, so if lets say russia would have lost then its a very different story.
Some of your comments qualify as personal insults & attacks. As do mine but in every case they are justified by being provoked. It weakens the case but still worth a shot.
On the plus side the more he acts like a dick the better we look so even if we don't get him banned the record here like his last gloating comment, makes it clear who is on the right side.You have done well in making your case don't let him get to you & be satisfied.
@MIDNIGHTCATRM I'm sure a record exist some where of what was said, I wouldn't bother unless you feel the comments make you look bad to others that might see them. Truth is his look far worse.
Most people do not scan past the first page of comments unless a conversation interests them & trolling is unlikely to do that unless a formal complaint is made.
What you choose to do is up to you. He Admitted to trolling which qualifies as harassment.
@MIDNIGHTCATRM He didn't threaten you & the police never contacted me about the guy who threatened my family. I have no idea if Youtube passed on the information to the police. I suspect he would have had to threaten several times or have a list of complaints before it got that far.
As it was his account disappeared a week later.
MegaTheBrit is just a self admitted troll they will ban him & maybe monitor his IP address for future complaints. He hasn't said anything to warrant police action.
Most of the time he is baiting you by ignoring what you say & instead being a spelling/grammar Nazi or making personal attacks "ad hominem".
His spelling/grammar isn't that good ether this is an online form we could use "l33t" & so long as we are understood there is no point in being a Nazi about it.
His activities just make him look small & petty minded.
When he latched on to you I started getting creeped out.
@MIDNIGHTCATRM No he is attacking you out of pure spite.
If he just wanted to argue a point I'm well read & can make good counter points but he is all over multiple 1812 vids attacking people at random as if by insulting enough people his self importance is some how justified.
@MegaTheBrit lol exactley what i was talking about, your just like every american. by the way nice comeback it sucked, your just speechless, amerture american.
@MegaTheBrit its funny cause i just went camping in the backyard of the most beutiful country in the world and im also working for my step-dad. your the troll, im the one that came back from history class and came to explore, i would also say your a teenager in the 15-17 age group because you fighting with a 13 year old that has to wake up and go to school just like every other kid that has the privilig to attend to a school. notice how i dont swear as well, unlike you, so whos the grown up?
@MegaTheBrit its funny how you say you would win a war by winning more battles, you have to win the most succesful battles, witch we did, plus you have to do something drastic to there country, like when you sent an atom bomb to japan and killed our those poop inecent people. or when russia captured berlin. well we won more importent battles like montreal and lundys lane. plus we burnt down you whitehouse. our parliment building did set fire but we stoped it just in time. so we still have it!
@MegaTheBrit ok its frikin youtube so shut up you overweight troll peice of garbage! i dont care how i spell on youtube, you americans dont rule me, like you think you do, your to broke to rule madagascar or sierre leon. by the way my cousin is living there for a job, shes not getting lots of money her father is rich. and by the way, you have no comebacks besides looking for spelling mistakes and whining about them like an american in rush hour traffic!
@MegaTheBrit why would any one want to be american, you would have no job, you would be overweight and your country would be broke like the millions of people on the street in that broke country. by the why why else would the american want to take our beatiful land, maybe you were sick of you own land. who knows, by the way, you say im stupid but the last sentence you gave made no sence at all. i'll not blame you for your lack of education again on the AMERICAN education system
@MegaTheBrit Our first attempts to invade Canada came during the American Revolution, during the battle that you never learned about in history class, the Battle of Quebec. A rather poor attempt by the Revolutionaries to take Quebec, it has been quietly forgotten in most American history texts. One would have thought we would have learned our lesson, but Americans have never been particularly strong in history.
@MegaTheBrit there main goal was to take our land but being so ignorent they thought they could beat us brits. lol nope, they lost and got killed, it sent a message through every american, dont mess with us! we know how to get it done! long live the queen!
@MegaTheBrit are saying that you won because you won more battles, will guess what nazi gremmany won much more battles and the russians still won. america won more battles but britain won:)
@mrfwest yah well thanks to commenting back nicely and respectfully, i say one comment and theres people swearing at me and everything! unbeleaveble! and im not going to fight with you because i alreadey have a troll trying to fight with me. but the good thing is that canada and usa are good friends that helped kill the nazis and are fighting against iraq and afganistan. your american i suppose?
@mrfwest Riiight that is why in the middle of the Napoleonic wars Britain decided to declare war on the US.
What forts are you talking about?
Britain continued searching American ships for contraband long after the war. It was the price you paid for doing Business with the British Empire & we controlled most world sea ports.
@Eddythebeast666 i been having this same conversations with you on multiple videos. now it seems like you looking for my comments... its like this never-ending story with you. i never said England declared war on the u.s.
yeah, im sure they did look for American ships be they didn't attack them.
what are you talking about contraband? GB was on the fall...
@mrfwest Scroll down a little bit buddy my comments here go back months as they do every other 1812 vid.
We didn't have to attack because after the war you submitted to the searches or they were American ships up to illegal activity which knew they forfeited any protection. Those times things got bloody it was your own damn fault.
@Eddythebeast666 more lies? i thought you we past that," Those times things got bloody it was your own damn fault." haven't you noticed America embrace violence.... ... just out of curiosity were country do you live in? what you nationality?
@Eddythebeast666 oh you're Canadian, awwwwwwww no wonder. all this time i thought i was talking to a Brit. at least that country had power. that explain you misguided scene of history.
don't worry, one day you country will have a voice and maybe some culture but it takes time. America just skip the line. just keeping copying us and maybe will will allow you to stand behind us
@mrfwest ok i dont want to fight, but dont say our country has no history because it has lots of it, railroad, maritime, halifax explosion, titanic, gold rush, 1812, ww2, ww1, european explores, native coulture, hockey, niagara falls stunts lol, and many more, both of our countries are great so whydo we argue?
@mrfwest well first off, titanic crashed on the cost of the maritimes and hundreds of canadians set sail to help, the main ship that helped the survivours was canadian. gold rush- yukon and british columbia, i am aware that it took part in usaas well. and war of 1812, totaly canadian, british and american. i know we wearnt canada back then but they called them selves canadian. but thanks for not swearing and being stupid some people swear and be jerks just for saying what i think. no fighting:)
@mrfwest well first off, titanic crashed on the cost of the maritimes and hundreds of canadians set sail to help, the main ship that helped the survivours was canadian. gold rush- yukon and british columbia, i am aware that it took part in usaas well. and war of 1812, totaly canadian, british and american. i know we wearnt canada back then but they called them selves canadian. but thanks for not swearing and being stupid some people swear and be jerks just for saying what i think. no fighting
@MIDNIGHTCATRM were the titanic crashed wasn't considered Canadian waters. gold rush term was coined by the California gold rush and the war of 1812 was between the u.s and England soldiers
@mrfwest yes i know but we were considerd to be canadians and i know what your saying because your right it was britain and usa but still, and the gold rush also happend in yukon and bc. the titanic sank on the grand banks of newfoundland as well, i also know that the american gold rush is more well known than ours in the west. what part of the usa are you from?
@MIDNIGHTCATRM no by " Canadian waters wasn't considered " i meant it was international waters. and it was British soldiers from England; people in the territory of Canada had little to no part in it
@mrfwest Ad hominem: short for argumentum ad hominem, is an attempt to link the truth of a claim to a negative characteristic or belief of the person advocating it.usually involves insulting or belittling one's opponent in order to attack his claim or invalidate his argument,
Your attempt to invalidate my arguments by belittling my nation.
@mrfwest although there were many miltia men witch called themselves canadiens, they came from upper and lower canada. while there were some men in red coats they were also miltia men. the trick from the battle od detroit when isaac brock dressed them in red coats to look more inteminating to the enemy. by the way i live in ontario.
@MIDNIGHTCATRM there were far more real red coat than there were Canadian militia. even if he did use Canadian to trick American the were useless in war. i really dont understand what you are claiming.... are you trying to say isaac brock used Canadian to fight Americans? and the troops weren't overwhelming British?
@MIDNIGHTCATRM i didn't see it as arguing, i was just trying to gain and give a better understanding of history bu7t, that was crushed by these horrible depiction of America during the war of 1812. hearing things like America wanted canada.
@mrfwest The U.S. also invaded Canada during the revolutionary war but were turned back by Canadians. The U.S. expansion of N.A. is well documented. You should learn something before write on YouTube.
@Thebusanbill i really dont understand why you guys contiue to say america invade canada as if they wanted it.... they didn't america was in a war with england. the goal was to ring the war to them. america bombed germany during ww2 ---- you wouldn't say america wanted germany because they didn't
@mrfwest Of course they wanted Canada ... It was an attempted annexation.
The U.S wanted Britain to get off the American continent for good. They thought that they would somehow be "liberating" the North Americans from Britain, and that Canada would want to be absorbed into the U.S.
What did you think? That if the U.S had somehow won the war they would just give North America back to the British? LOL.
@gamblemadman good point, the americans wanted to defeat the british but instead of going across the ocean, witch was to far, they could practically walk down and try to take us over witch would effect them greatly. fortunetly we were not taking over, so thank you for standing up for our great commenwealth relationship.
@gamblemadman America wasn't going to attack England for land and we didn't want to liberate anyone. America wanted England to leave us alone. if we wanted canada ( England ) to " absorb " with U.S we would have asked. the states: Virgina, and Massachusetts didn't start a war to take the much weaker state Georgia
@mrfwest Klondike Gold Rush in Canada's Yukon Territory (1898–99), immortalized in the novels of Jack London, the poetry of Robert W. Service and Charlie Chaplin's film The Gold Rush. it also helped open up the relatively new US possession of Alaska to exploration and settlement and promoted the discovery of other gold finds.
@Eddythebeast666 no, we haven't heard of the Canada's Yukon Territory gold rush. America originally didn't care about Alaska. it was originally bought to stop Canadians from being Russian
i wasn't trying to invalidate your argument so it wasn't an ad hom.
@MIDNIGHTCATRM Hi, the 1812 Overture is about the Russian victory over Napoleon's forces after he invaded Russia. So your discussion seems to be missing the history of the song.
This is more propaganda than history. They put a very distinct swing on things, rather than being objective. Interesting to see their take, but it certainly isn't 100% true.
wasteofspace1234 1 month ago
first of all, no matter what anyone said...the USA did invade Canada. Canada defended and and no offense to anyone but chased them back across the border where they continued to fight and ended up burning the White House and a lot of Washington with it. just saying. plus, Their were more USA deaths by about 3,500 soldiers.
collecterHomeVids 1 month ago
the truth is this, no matter what happened in 1812, today, canada and great britain are america's bitches. we say jump, you say how high. we say bend over, you say give me another daddy
VEGITAS4 2 months ago
@VEGITAS4 Hey! China called & left a message for you Yankees.
"Bend over bitch."
Pax Americana ended in Sept 11th 2001, you guys are just the latest has-been.
Eddythebeast666 2 months ago
@Eddythebeast666 Hey, guess what? No matter what our economy is now or 20 years from now, Canada and UK will still have America's meat pole in their mouths. have a nice day. :)
VEGITAS4 2 months ago
@VEGITAS4 For what? To sell us goods you had manufactured in China?
Glory days are over. Time you accepted that fact.
Eddythebeast666 2 months ago
@Eddythebeast666
the silly notion that anti Americans have that a semi periphery nation such as China will overtake the US as a super power is truly absurd.
I truly hope you dont think this way.
HandzarMitraljezac 2 months ago
@HandzarMitraljezac All national power is ultimately an extension of economic power.
Eddythebeast666 2 months ago
@HandzarMitraljezac It's not absurd. It's happening as we speak. Your nation is trapped in an inescapable debt of 14 trillion dollars and rising, all the while nations such as China and India continue to rise in terms economic power.
Why do think Obama is trying to gain military bases in the Pacific? China is attempting to gain a blue water navy and the U.S is worried.
Ninja1275 2 months ago
you need to read up on your history a little bit more, the war had many reasons, a lot had to do with strict trading embargos, the british also funded indians in an attempt to slow US expansion, so yes this ended up in the invasion of canada, it was a close call, just like the revolution, war is fought in the will. But look at reality who is the spear tip of almost every UN confrontation, to be honest America really only needs China and no one else.
ted1165 2 months ago
weeeouuuu canada!!!
MrSN1P3Y 2 months ago
This video is so bias its insane !
CypressPhotoStudio 2 months ago
@CypressPhotoStudio its suppost to be look at any war, each sidewill say they won but in truth people died nothing more
ted1165 2 months ago
Canada and Britain kicked Americas ass
uafchris 3 months ago
Canada-1 US-0
thats the way it is deal with it
danseanmac 3 months ago
my teacher told me to interpret the national anthem and that it was based on the war of 1812. is this a good video for it?
Giggity404 3 months ago
@Giggity404 The 1812 war is a rather large subject as it ties in to the Napoleonic wars with many complex issues.
If your focus is the anthem then the bombardment of Ft. Henry in Baltimore was the event that inspired it. Baltimore was targeted because it was the staging grounds for US Privateers pirating upon British civilian shipping.
If you want info on most of the war then the PBS documentary is your best bet. The War of 1812 uploaded by juniebb03
Eddythebeast666 3 months ago
This video is so bias its insane ahaha
Mavrickr 3 months ago
wow i guess its time to turn the channel
cookies4lifeo 4 months ago
I Have to do a stupid essay on this war. NOBODY KNOWS ABOUT THIS WAR!!! I HAD NO FRICKIN IDEA IT EXISTED UNTIL THEY MADE US WRITE IT URRRRRRGHHH!!! p.s. this essay, yea, it;s due on Monday.yay.
xLOLxGRLx 4 months ago
@xLOLxGRLx I have an essay on it too. Its due wednesday and I haven't even started, its hard to find ACTUAL facts about it.
DavidTombstone 4 months ago
@xLOLxGRLx
i guess its to late but the war of 1812... well i dont wana go into much detail but we won obviously
cookies4lifeo 4 months ago
@cookies4lifeo The US invaded British Canada had your forces defeated & chased back in to the US then as major British invasion forces threatened your coasts, burned your capitol, with 6 states threatening secession & your economy in ruins the US was forced to sign a treaty that addressed nothing of the issues that you went to war over.
You call that winning? LOL
Eddythebeast666 3 months ago 28
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pretty sure yeah, problem?
cookies4lifeo 3 months ago
@Eddythebeast666 yes. Cuz at least that was enough to beat your ass.
Sumoto999 3 months ago
@Sumoto999 May you enjoy many such victories Black Knight. LOL
That was not just a flesh wound.
Eddythebeast666 3 months ago
@Eddythebeast666
Yes indeed. And the Burning of Washington was a revenge attack for the U.S burning of Toronto. If the British had continued and not ended the war, the U.S would have beed decimated and now under British rule. But the British were adamant they had no intention and no desire to sack the U.S. Only to halt there invasion of Canada, and exact revenge for the Toronto burning. Americans that say they won know nothing of history and are frankly arrogant fools...
MrDeano324 3 months ago
@Eddythebeast666 They use propaganda to make it seem like they won, but in reality they were taught an embarrassing lesson
engliscwarrior 2 months ago
@engliscwarrior Well this is a military training film. Indoctrination of the troops should be expected I suppose so yes definitely propaganda.
I'm willing to give the devil his due, the US is a very impressive nation but WOW their history is is presented like Greek mythology It more fable then fact.
How can they function in the real world with such a warped perspective?
Eddythebeast666 2 months ago
@Eddythebeast666
We burned Toronto to the ground. Only the capitol building was briefly burning, fire was put out by the rain.
The Chesappeake campaign was still a US defensive victory.
USMarineRifleman0311 2 months ago
@USMarineRifleman0311 The Parliament building Printing house & Mayors home with some looting of private homes & abuse of the population.
You lost control of your troops which is a shameful disgrace not a point of pride. By violating the conventions of war you left the door open for retaliation in kind
Eddythebeast666 2 months ago
@USMarineRifleman0311 Seeing as the British objective was to simply raid and destroy, the Chesapeake Campaign was a strategic British victory. Numerous towns and villages were taken, British forces handed Americans their "greatest disgrace" at Bladensburg, Washington was burnt down. And although the operation at Baltimore was a tactical failure, it represented strategic success as they removed its use as a major base for US privateers and took it out of operation.
Ninja1275 2 months ago
@Eddythebeast666 hey bro! merry christmas! thanks for stealing my top comment spot!
collecterHomeVids 2 months ago
@collecterHomeVids The Treaty of Ghent signed on 24 December 1814
Merry Christmas indeed & peace among brothers.
Eddythebeast666 2 months ago
@Eddythebeast666 lol sorry i forgot to say, im MIDNIGHTCATRM LOL
collecterHomeVids 1 month ago
@collecterHomeVids Cool dude. Happy Holidays!
Eddythebeast666 1 month ago
The War of 1812: "Everybody's happy with the outcome of the War of 1812, Americans are happy because they think they won. Canadians are happier becuase they know they won. And the British are happiest of all because they've forgotten all about it." - Donald Hickey, Wayne State College, Nebraska
zazszdzfzgzhzjzkzlzx 4 months ago 7
I missed the part where we burnt down their capitol
lifeline369 4 months ago
Lucky for the US that Britain was fighting the world's best and one of the largest armies at the time in Europe. It's a pity that this programme fails to point out that the burning of Washington was a punishment, for the previous burning of York in April 1813. That's Hollywood for you.
blueray1969 4 months ago
@blueray1969
this isnt hollywood, this is a cold war era us navy instructional video on the development of history's largest navy.
The torching of Washington is irrelevant to the US naval force. Torching of a civilian structure is not war changing, 3 failed landings are, and thats where the British failed during the war.
USMarineRifleman0311 4 months ago
What the hell is a "Britisher" - what a bizarre word. What's wrong with Briton, or British? Weird.
blueray1969 4 months ago
911
CypressPhotoStudio 4 months ago
usa sent a bill saying they would attach canada through the house of representives.. yes, they did try to.. and british north america beat them and burnt the whitehouse down... canada won
MIDNIGHTCATRM 5 months ago
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In the Video it is said the British were not repulsed in the Chesapeake. After Washington, they moved to take Baltimore. At the Battle of North Point, the British Army took something like 300+ casualties including MG Ross. The loss of Genrea Ross took the momentum out of the British land attack. The British Navy could not get past Fort McHenry. After Baltimore, the British withdrew and had not achieved anything of strategic significance. The US was still in the war.
exarmydoc 5 months ago
@exarmydoc You've been spammed, and not by me. Obviously, other see you for what you are, as well.
71259mark 5 months ago
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@71259mark You really can't handle truth, can you.
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Planetar17 5 months ago
another war usa lost. and to a colony no less . Upper Canada victorious
Love4SK 6 months ago
@Love4SK
Treaty of Ghent 1815 - draw, forfeiting of territories to the US by UK forces
USMarineRifleman0311 5 months ago
@USMarineRifleman0311 were they us territories forfeited? which territories were they?
blueray1969 4 months ago
@blueray1969
the NW territories of Maine, basically all of New England, Great Lakes were lost by the Royal Navy herself, and some of the western frontier territories.
UK was forced to recognize the US in 1815, hence it was the 2nd war of US independence.
USMarineRifleman0311 4 months ago
@USMarineRifleman0311 LOL ...Nope. It was the 1783 treaty of Paris (post war of independence treaty) that forced the UK to recognise U.S sovereignty.
The only reason the U.S was in any danger of losing its sovereignty in the 1812 war was because it had been dumb enough to attack British sovereign territory (Canada) and had to deal with the subsequent retaliation. Retaking the U.S was never really a British objective.
1812 was a Canadian war of independence (independence from U.S annexation).
gamblemadman 4 months ago
@gamblemadman
you truly need to look up the defenition of independence .
We didnt even fully occupy canada for it to claim independence. To claim independence, Canada wouldve had to been an American colony and Canadians renamed to American citizens. You didnt win your independence, you got it from the UK because they could no longer use you.
USMarineRifleman0311 4 months ago
@USMarineRifleman0311 Im English lol.
OK ... you didn't fully occupy Canada. But HAD you fully occupied it then Canada would have not been independent from you. So it's safe to say that Canada was fighting for its freedom from U.S annexation ... hence, fighting for its independence from future U.S occupation.
The U.S wasn't a British colony in 1812 ... so how can you call it a "2nd war of independence"? According to your logic it is YOU who needs to look up the definition of independence lol.
gamblemadman 4 months ago
@gamblemadman
youre right, in 1941, we fought against jap annexation
and in the 1840s we fought for our independence from the mexicans
you have to submit 100% at one point to want your independence once again.
USMarineRifleman0311 4 months ago
@gamblemadman
you aint english, youre just another maple syrup drinking brit wannabee.
we all know how much english dick you people want to suck for acceptance, since you hardly have an image as a country without the UK
USMarineRifleman0311 4 months ago
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@USMarineRifleman0311 Haha ... you idiot. I AM English, a quick glance at my channel is all you have to do to see where im from.
"Maple syrup drinking" ... Is that supposed to be an insult to Canadians? You burger munchers probably consume more maple syrup on your daily morning pancakes than the Cannucks do in a month.
The fact is that YOU guys invaded Canada and then ended up having to defend your own territory ... and you have the audacity to call it a "2nd war of U.S independence"?!?
LOL!
gamblemadman 4 months ago 5
@gamblemadman
We invaded canada, burned its capital and turned to the defensive because your big brother came yes.
And then we conquered the rest of the continent by buying it from the economically devastated French.
You didnt leave canada and go on the offensive, dont be fooling yourself. The veteran british army...veterans of waterloo failed to make 3 seperate landings on the eastern US seaboard. The british did set a civilian building on fire in Wash. but failed to take Ft Mchenry
USMarineRifleman0311 4 months ago
@USMarineRifleman0311 What are you talking about? "your big brother came". Why cant you believe that your arguing with an Englishman here? .
Look, im not here to talk about who took what territory and shit like that ... all im doing is questioning your logic when you say that 1812 was a "2nd American war of independence". The UK never wanted a war with you guys ... YOU were the aggressors in that war.
Britain wasn't trying to reclaim the U.S so how can you call it a 2nd war of independence?
gamblemadman 4 months ago
@gamblemadman
The St Lawrence campaign had 8 US victories and 6 defeats.
The Niagara campaign was 6-6
Detroit frontier was 10 US victories to 8 British
We ended the war with the bloodiest battle which you lost decisively. The bloodiest battle wasnt for Canada.
Naval engagements are 26 US victories 13 British, 4 ties
Total 62 US victories 38 British victories.
pretty pathetic.
USMarineRifleman0311 2 months ago
@USMarineRifleman0311 Were are you getting these statistics? War isnt a sport.
The St. Lawrence and Niagara Campaigns were both British victories. American invasion forces achieved nothing and were consistently beaten back by smaller British/Canadian forces.
Detroit was a US victory but that cannot count against us because you were simply regaining territory that you had lost at the beginning of the war. You were not making progress in your attempted conquest of Canada.
Ninja1275 2 months ago
@USMarineRifleman0311 New Orleans was not the last battle and the victory was irrelevant as not only was the war already over it took place on the defensive. The war started as one of US conquest. British armies remained in US terrtory and won several battles after New Orleans.
The naval engagements are also irrelevant, by the war's end the USN was in tatters, the entire US merchant fleet had been eradicated and the entire eastern seaboard was under a massive blockade.
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@blueray1969
the NW territories of Maine, basically all of New England, Great Lakes were lost by the Royal Navy herself, and some of the western frontier territories.
UK was forced to recognize the US in 1815, hence it was the 2nd war of US independence.
USMarineRifleman0311 4 months ago
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@Love4SK The British made three major incursions into US territory, the Chesapeake, Plattsburg, and New Orleans. Each incursion was repulsed. The only results the British could show was thousands of casualties, including a number of senior leaders and no strategic gains. The British wanted to impose severe territorial concessions upon the US. They ended up actually making a concession - returning the part of Maine they had captured in the War.
exarmydoc 5 months ago
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Planetar17 6 months ago
What a biased peice of crap american documentary, go figure. So classic of them to focus on their victories. CANADA WON THO LOL
Sk3L370R 6 months ago
Wait, I don't understand, how did the we win? We signed a treaty saying we would surrender and leave, that isn't a win. Objectives be damned, Hitler completed all his objectives in 1939-1940 in Western Europe for all the good that did him. @MegaTheBrit And you aren't including in your comment that there were many Native Americans and Canadians helping us, bringing that alliances tally up to around 13,650. I'm not saying we did a bad job, but we should give credit where credit is due.
NationoftheWorld 6 months ago
1812 was a British phyrric military victory as always, just like Bunker Hill except the war ended in a treaty and a draw. The biggest mistake tough was not capitalizing on the successes. No territorial changes were made or gained by the victors.
In short, USA kept expanding, the war was almost entirely irrelevant.
USMarineRifleman0311 6 months ago
bitches!
godsuckmycock 7 months ago
54 40 or fight!
godsuckmycock 7 months ago
Britain had a more formidable military, but they were engaged in a war with Napoleonic France. The British and U.S. signed a peace treaty 2 weeks before the Americans, Cajuns, and free Blacks defeated the British near New Orleans. The USA saved the UK's ass in WW1 and WW2.
faelismaegnus 7 months ago
@faelismaegnus Why do you guys always like to pretend that you "saved the UK's ass" in WW1 and WW2?
You HELPED us save mainland Europe from German occupation. Britain was never in any need of being saving.
I gotta be honest with you ... if an American ever had the front to tell me to my face that the U.S saved the U.K they would be spittin out teeth. Ive had enough of you guys saying that shit.
gamblemadman 6 months ago
@gamblemadman we saved you. You guys were about to lose the war until we came in. Read your history stupid. Yes britian was under eminent attack, you guys basically begged us go to war. And you better thank russia. They also saved britian,france,etc. weak hide. You weak red coat,
LilRedRasta 6 months ago
@LilRedRasta Dont front kid, I'd fuck you up if you had the bottle to run your mouth to my face ... which you wouldn't cause you yanks are all talk and no minerals.
gamblemadman 6 months ago
@gamblemadman try me. looks like i won the debate. you didnt even argue back with facts. Also come to america bitch. ilive in a hood where people have military guns like ak 47 and 50 cals, fucking grenade launchers. I live in one of the murder capitals of the us. So if you think you can do that, i will rip your ass a new one.what have your priviliged ass ever done? i almost starved to death had my family die in front of me and was held and shot a man to protect my family in katrina.try me bitch
LilRedRasta 6 months ago
@LilRedRasta LOL.
Your trying too hard kid ... thanks for the laugh.
gamblemadman 6 months ago
@gamblemadman hahah losers always laugh it off like they just didnt get thier asses handed to them. youre backing off cause you know i would kick the shit out your bitch ass. goodbye fucker.
LilRedRasta 6 months ago
@gamblemadman and everything i said was true. i from new orleans louisiana. magnolia projects bitch. look us up. better yet see for yourself youtube.com/watch?v=0GdmHOJTW0Y
LilRedRasta 6 months ago
@gamblemadman and another one youtube.com/watch?v=98G9HhJc9xc&feature=related
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LilRedRasta 6 months ago
@gamblemadman
That whole debate needs to be re-worded. Hitler never gave a fuck about invading england enough after the Battle of Britain. Most of his troops were focused towards Russia, to the point where we reduced his troops in France to a mere occupying force. And this occupying force of resting eastern front veterans was what kept UK out of mainland Europe. Britain on its own was pushed out of Burma and SE Asia, Balkans, N. France and made 0 progress to get Europe back
USMarineRifleman0311 6 months ago
@gamblemadman The US didn't join the fight till they were attacked themselves.
They saved no one but them selves.
They became a world power by sitting back building their infrastructure as the rest of the world bled ourselves white.
Hitler & his allies were the best thing that ever happened to the USA.
Eddythebeast666 6 months ago
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Planetar17 6 months ago
@Planetar17 Dont give me that crap.
gamblemadman 6 months ago
@gamblemadman I deleted my comment. It was sent in outrage at your words which were dismissive of U.S. efforts in WWII. I have massive respect for British and Commonwealth military achievements, truly.
Planetar17 6 months ago
@Planetar17 I've never been dismissive of the U.S efforts in WWII, you misunderstood what I said.
I know the U.S played a massive part in that war, and I know you guys also helped out Britain after the war with recovery aid.
It pisses me off though when some Americans like to insist that the U.S somehow saved Britain from the Nazi's. I hear it all the time, almost like you guys are tought that shit in school or something.
Britain alone defended its islands from the Nazi's ... no one saved us.
gamblemadman 6 months ago
@gamblemadman yes u did a very good job of defending ur land, but you cant say you alone would have won the war against germany, (for anyone who does not realize the nazis were a secret police force not the german army, they are different. so you cant say you defended ur islands from the nazis, you defended them from the germans.)
pj1994fe 4 months ago
@pj1994fe Ok the Germans ... whatever lol. Same difference back then.
No one is saying that Britain could have won WW2 singlehanded lol. Obviously we couldn't ... no one could.
What I AM saying is that peeps from the U.S sometimes like to pretend that they saved the UK from German invasion ... they say we'd be speaking German if it wasn't for them "saving our asses". They completely ignore that we had already defeated the Germans on our own turf (our skys to be exact).
WE saved our OWN asses.
gamblemadman 4 months ago
@gamblemadman maybe then but u do realize over half the german army was fighting russia, so if lets say russia would have lost then its a very different story.
pj1994fe 4 months ago
@pj1994fe Absolutely. If Russia weren't in the fight then the war would have been lost.
gamblemadman 4 months ago
i gotta say this ws greatttt
kessmypersainass 8 months ago
@MegaTheBrit You keep trolling & its sad.
Eddythebeast666 8 months ago
@MegaTheBrit For the love of God man quit while you are ahead.
What is your problem?
Eddythebeast666 8 months ago
@MegaTheBrit is that your only comeback, your comments have been flaged for spam so shut up.
MIDNIGHTCATRM 8 months ago
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@MIDNIGHTCATRM No don't false flag him as spam that can cause other problems.
Report his comment where he admits to being a troll.
"No not really i'm just having fun pissing you off."
Might take a bit of time before he is investigated but he will bet banned as a troll.
If he threatens you or uses Hate speech targeting minorities the police will get notified as well.
Eddythebeast666 8 months ago
@Eddythebeast666 thnx man should i report him, by the way he flaged this, you scared him man good job he shoould leave us alone.
MIDNIGHTCATRM 8 months ago
@Eddythebeast666 how do you report?
MIDNIGHTCATRM 8 months ago
@MIDNIGHTCATRM bottom of screen "Safety"
Read through the options to the ones that qualify.
It's a pain in the ass I seldom bother with but after one guy threatened to bash my families heads in on a seal hunting video I read up on it.
Keep in mind we have to follow the rules as well so even if you don't report him its good to know what the rules are.
I'm reading through his replies now. Looks like he tryes to stay in the rules but slips up every now & then.
Eddythebeast666 8 months ago
@Eddythebeast666 do i go to spam and pishing?
MIDNIGHTCATRM 8 months ago
@MIDNIGHTCATRM Harassment and Cyberbullying
Eddythebeast666 8 months ago
@Eddythebeast666 if i do it to him will he do it to me? are my comments good? and i am young man im not lying.
MIDNIGHTCATRM 8 months ago
@MIDNIGHTCATRM You didn't admit to trolling & he did.
Some of your comments qualify as personal insults & attacks. As do mine but in every case they are justified by being provoked. It weakens the case but still worth a shot.
On the plus side the more he acts like a dick the better we look so even if we don't get him banned the record here like his last gloating comment, makes it clear who is on the right side.You have done well in making your case don't let him get to you & be satisfied.
Eddythebeast666 8 months ago
@Eddythebeast666 should i delete comments of mine that might show it?
MIDNIGHTCATRM 8 months ago
@MIDNIGHTCATRM I'm sure a record exist some where of what was said, I wouldn't bother unless you feel the comments make you look bad to others that might see them. Truth is his look far worse.
Most people do not scan past the first page of comments unless a conversation interests them & trolling is unlikely to do that unless a formal complaint is made.
What you choose to do is up to you. He Admitted to trolling which qualifies as harassment.
If you don't feel comfortable then let it slide.
Eddythebeast666 8 months ago
@MIDNIGHTCATRM Sadly we can't ban him for being stupid. Half of Youtube would get banned.
If he keeps it up what ever you do don't let him make you angry. That is the only reason he does it in the first place.
He is not trying to make a point or argue a different perspective. Being reasonable shows you are reasonable. Being a dick shows that he is a dick.
You don't have to prove anything to MegaTheBrit or to me. Do what you feel is right.
Its all any of us can do.
All the best to you.
Eddythebeast666 8 months ago
@Eddythebeast666 i thnk i might report him but i dont want the police to get involved. how would you prevent that?
MIDNIGHTCATRM 8 months ago
@MIDNIGHTCATRM He didn't threaten you & the police never contacted me about the guy who threatened my family. I have no idea if Youtube passed on the information to the police. I suspect he would have had to threaten several times or have a list of complaints before it got that far.
As it was his account disappeared a week later.
MegaTheBrit is just a self admitted troll they will ban him & maybe monitor his IP address for future complaints. He hasn't said anything to warrant police action.
Eddythebeast666 8 months ago
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MIDNIGHTCATRM 8 months ago
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@Eddythebeast666 thanks man im gonna do it.
MIDNIGHTCATRM 8 months ago
@MIDNIGHTCATRM OK I've looked over what he has posted.
Most of the time he is baiting you by ignoring what you say & instead being a spelling/grammar Nazi or making personal attacks "ad hominem".
His spelling/grammar isn't that good ether this is an online form we could use "l33t" & so long as we are understood there is no point in being a Nazi about it.
His activities just make him look small & petty minded.
When he latched on to you I started getting creeped out.
Why? Because you are young?
Eddythebeast666 8 months ago
@MIDNIGHTCATRM No he is attacking you out of pure spite.
If he just wanted to argue a point I'm well read & can make good counter points but he is all over multiple 1812 vids attacking people at random as if by insulting enough people his self importance is some how justified.
That is not a healthy world view. It's deranged.
Eddythebeast666 8 months ago
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@MegaTheBrit lol exactley what i was talking about, your just like every american. by the way nice comeback it sucked, your just speechless, amerture american.
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MIDNIGHTCATRM 8 months ago
@MegaTheBrit its funny cause i just went camping in the backyard of the most beutiful country in the world and im also working for my step-dad. your the troll, im the one that came back from history class and came to explore, i would also say your a teenager in the 15-17 age group because you fighting with a 13 year old that has to wake up and go to school just like every other kid that has the privilig to attend to a school. notice how i dont swear as well, unlike you, so whos the grown up?
MIDNIGHTCATRM 8 months ago 2
@MegaTheBrit A lot older then you you a nerd? are YOU stupid?
MIDNIGHTCATRM 8 months ago 3
@MegaTheBrit its funny how you say you would win a war by winning more battles, you have to win the most succesful battles, witch we did, plus you have to do something drastic to there country, like when you sent an atom bomb to japan and killed our those poop inecent people. or when russia captured berlin. well we won more importent battles like montreal and lundys lane. plus we burnt down you whitehouse. our parliment building did set fire but we stoped it just in time. so we still have it!
MIDNIGHTCATRM 8 months ago 2
@MegaTheBrit ok its frikin youtube so shut up you overweight troll peice of garbage! i dont care how i spell on youtube, you americans dont rule me, like you think you do, your to broke to rule madagascar or sierre leon. by the way my cousin is living there for a job, shes not getting lots of money her father is rich. and by the way, you have no comebacks besides looking for spelling mistakes and whining about them like an american in rush hour traffic!
MIDNIGHTCATRM 8 months ago 2
@MegaTheBrit why would any one want to be american, you would have no job, you would be overweight and your country would be broke like the millions of people on the street in that broke country. by the why why else would the american want to take our beatiful land, maybe you were sick of you own land. who knows, by the way, you say im stupid but the last sentence you gave made no sence at all. i'll not blame you for your lack of education again on the AMERICAN education system
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@MegaTheBrit Our first attempts to invade Canada came during the American Revolution, during the battle that you never learned about in history class, the Battle of Quebec. A rather poor attempt by the Revolutionaries to take Quebec, it has been quietly forgotten in most American history texts. One would have thought we would have learned our lesson, but Americans have never been particularly strong in history.
-alan butler
MIDNIGHTCATRM 8 months ago 2
@MegaTheBrit there main goal was to take our land but being so ignorent they thought they could beat us brits. lol nope, they lost and got killed, it sent a message through every american, dont mess with us! we know how to get it done! long live the queen!
MIDNIGHTCATRM 8 months ago 2
@MegaTheBrit are saying that you won because you won more battles, will guess what nazi gremmany won much more battles and the russians still won. america won more battles but britain won:)
MIDNIGHTCATRM 8 months ago 2
@MegaTheBrit The British won due to the fact that they completed their objectives; defend Canada by killing the Americans who tried to invade.
American Deaths:11,300 killed, wounded or missing in action.
British Deaths: 8,600 killed, wounded or missing in action.
MIDNIGHTCATRM 8 months ago 8
@MIDNIGHTCATRM no, British lost. England is the country that wanted america ( thats why fought for new Orleans during peace talks)
they wanted to stop America influence over Canada. that's why they attack American ships and occupied forts on American soil before the war.
they stopped doing both of those and started peace talks ... so we won
mrfwest 8 months ago
@mrfwest yah well thanks to commenting back nicely and respectfully, i say one comment and theres people swearing at me and everything! unbeleaveble! and im not going to fight with you because i alreadey have a troll trying to fight with me. but the good thing is that canada and usa are good friends that helped kill the nazis and are fighting against iraq and afganistan. your american i suppose?
MIDNIGHTCATRM 8 months ago
@MIDNIGHTCATRM Yes mrfwest is another troll that has been posting on 1812 videos. Even dumber then MegaTheBrit but mrfwest seems harmless.
Or at least not as creepy.
mrfwest admits he is American so at least you know where he is coming from & why he believes what he does
Eddythebeast666 8 months ago
@mrfwest Riiight that is why in the middle of the Napoleonic wars Britain decided to declare war on the US.
What forts are you talking about?
Britain continued searching American ships for contraband long after the war. It was the price you paid for doing Business with the British Empire & we controlled most world sea ports.
Eddythebeast666 8 months ago
@Eddythebeast666 i been having this same conversations with you on multiple videos. now it seems like you looking for my comments... its like this never-ending story with you. i never said England declared war on the u.s.
yeah, im sure they did look for American ships be they didn't attack them.
what are you talking about contraband? GB was on the fall...
mrfwest 8 months ago
@mrfwest Scroll down a little bit buddy my comments here go back months as they do every other 1812 vid.
We didn't have to attack because after the war you submitted to the searches or they were American ships up to illegal activity which knew they forfeited any protection. Those times things got bloody it was your own damn fault.
Eddythebeast666 8 months ago
@Eddythebeast666 more lies? i thought you we past that," Those times things got bloody it was your own damn fault." haven't you noticed America embrace violence.... ... just out of curiosity were country do you live in? what you nationality?
mrfwest 8 months ago
@mrfwest Canadian & Mi'kmaq its in my Profile. Do you have some reason to doubt it?
Eddythebeast666 8 months ago
@Eddythebeast666 oh you're Canadian, awwwwwwww no wonder. all this time i thought i was talking to a Brit. at least that country had power. that explain you misguided scene of history.
don't worry, one day you country will have a voice and maybe some culture but it takes time. America just skip the line. just keeping copying us and maybe will will allow you to stand behind us
mrfwest 8 months ago
@mrfwest Ad Hom. #LOL
Eddythebeast666 8 months ago
@Eddythebeast666 that wasn't an ad hom
mrfwest 8 months ago
@mrfwest ok i dont want to fight, but dont say our country has no history because it has lots of it, railroad, maritime, halifax explosion, titanic, gold rush, 1812, ww2, ww1, european explores, native coulture, hockey, niagara falls stunts lol, and many more, both of our countries are great so whydo we argue?
MIDNIGHTCATRM 8 months ago
@MIDNIGHTCATRM wait... first i never Canada didn't have history.
2nd... are you claiming , titanic, gold rush, and war of 1812 as Canadian history? that's what i mean by misguided
mrfwest 8 months ago
@mrfwest well first off, titanic crashed on the cost of the maritimes and hundreds of canadians set sail to help, the main ship that helped the survivours was canadian. gold rush- yukon and british columbia, i am aware that it took part in usaas well. and war of 1812, totaly canadian, british and american. i know we wearnt canada back then but they called them selves canadian. but thanks for not swearing and being stupid some people swear and be jerks just for saying what i think. no fighting:)
MIDNIGHTCATRM 8 months ago
@mrfwest well first off, titanic crashed on the cost of the maritimes and hundreds of canadians set sail to help, the main ship that helped the survivours was canadian. gold rush- yukon and british columbia, i am aware that it took part in usaas well. and war of 1812, totaly canadian, british and american. i know we wearnt canada back then but they called them selves canadian. but thanks for not swearing and being stupid some people swear and be jerks just for saying what i think. no fighting
MIDNIGHTCATRM 8 months ago
@MIDNIGHTCATRM were the titanic crashed wasn't considered Canadian waters. gold rush term was coined by the California gold rush and the war of 1812 was between the u.s and England soldiers
mrfwest 8 months ago
@mrfwest yes i know but we were considerd to be canadians and i know what your saying because your right it was britain and usa but still, and the gold rush also happend in yukon and bc. the titanic sank on the grand banks of newfoundland as well, i also know that the american gold rush is more well known than ours in the west. what part of the usa are you from?
MIDNIGHTCATRM 8 months ago
@MIDNIGHTCATRM no by " Canadian waters wasn't considered " i meant it was international waters. and it was British soldiers from England; people in the territory of Canada had little to no part in it
georgia (south or south east )
mrfwest 8 months ago
@mrfwest ok whatever i dont care anymore both of our countrys are amazing, Peace.
MIDNIGHTCATRM 8 months ago
@mrfwest Ad hominem: short for argumentum ad hominem, is an attempt to link the truth of a claim to a negative characteristic or belief of the person advocating it.usually involves insulting or belittling one's opponent in order to attack his claim or invalidate his argument,
Your attempt to invalidate my arguments by belittling my nation.
Eddythebeast666 8 months ago
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MIDNIGHTCATRM 8 months ago
@mrfwest although there were many miltia men witch called themselves canadiens, they came from upper and lower canada. while there were some men in red coats they were also miltia men. the trick from the battle od detroit when isaac brock dressed them in red coats to look more inteminating to the enemy. by the way i live in ontario.
MIDNIGHTCATRM 8 months ago
@MIDNIGHTCATRM there were far more real red coat than there were Canadian militia. even if he did use Canadian to trick American the were useless in war. i really dont understand what you are claiming.... are you trying to say isaac brock used Canadian to fight Americans? and the troops weren't overwhelming British?
mrfwest 8 months ago
@mrfwest the batle of detroit was mainly faught with miltia men and natives and the ticks he used won him the battle and gave him him fort detroit.
MIDNIGHTCATRM 8 months ago
@mrfwest why are we even arguing about this? the war is over and our countrys are good friends and so should we. agreed?
MIDNIGHTCATRM 8 months ago
@MIDNIGHTCATRM i didn't see it as arguing, i was just trying to gain and give a better understanding of history bu7t, that was crushed by these horrible depiction of America during the war of 1812. hearing things like America wanted canada.
mrfwest 8 months ago
@mrfwest ok thanks but lets not turn into mindless monkeys that just through eachothers countries down, lets talk like mature humans.
MIDNIGHTCATRM 8 months ago
@mrfwest The U.S. also invaded Canada during the revolutionary war but were turned back by Canadians. The U.S. expansion of N.A. is well documented. You should learn something before write on YouTube.
Thebusanbill 6 months ago
@Thebusanbill i really dont understand why you guys contiue to say america invade canada as if they wanted it.... they didn't america was in a war with england. the goal was to ring the war to them. america bombed germany during ww2 ---- you wouldn't say america wanted germany because they didn't
mrfwest 6 months ago
@mrfwest Of course they wanted Canada ... It was an attempted annexation.
The U.S wanted Britain to get off the American continent for good. They thought that they would somehow be "liberating" the North Americans from Britain, and that Canada would want to be absorbed into the U.S.
What did you think? That if the U.S had somehow won the war they would just give North America back to the British? LOL.
gamblemadman 6 months ago
@gamblemadman good point, the americans wanted to defeat the british but instead of going across the ocean, witch was to far, they could practically walk down and try to take us over witch would effect them greatly. fortunetly we were not taking over, so thank you for standing up for our great commenwealth relationship.
MIDNIGHTCATRM 6 months ago
@gamblemadman America wasn't going to attack England for land and we didn't want to liberate anyone. America wanted England to leave us alone. if we wanted canada ( England ) to " absorb " with U.S we would have asked. the states: Virgina, and Massachusetts didn't start a war to take the much weaker state Georgia
mrfwest 6 months ago
@mrfwest Klondike Gold Rush in Canada's Yukon Territory (1898–99), immortalized in the novels of Jack London, the poetry of Robert W. Service and Charlie Chaplin's film The Gold Rush. it also helped open up the relatively new US possession of Alaska to exploration and settlement and promoted the discovery of other gold finds.
As if Yanks never heard of it.
Eddythebeast666 8 months ago
@Eddythebeast666 no, we haven't heard of the Canada's Yukon Territory gold rush. America originally didn't care about Alaska. it was originally bought to stop Canadians from being Russian
i wasn't trying to invalidate your argument so it wasn't an ad hom.
mrfwest 8 months ago
@MIDNIGHTCATRM canada is americas brother through it all, we shouldnt argue. :)
pj1994fe 4 months ago
@pj1994fe true i agree
MIDNIGHTCATRM 4 months ago
@MIDNIGHTCATRM Hi, the 1812 Overture is about the Russian victory over Napoleon's forces after he invaded Russia. So your discussion seems to be missing the history of the song.
HazmatIMP 6 months ago
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@MIDNIGHTCATRM keep telling yourself that
jacobwolf124 6 months ago
@MegaTheBrit yah you did loos to britain, p.s like the artical.
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