iv been doing gymnastics with 3 years this year and i loovee it ....if i could do any of these on the floor id be seriously proud of myself!!....not to mind the beam!! haha
@bunbacheso Nothing, it's just different terms for the same move. Some people like to call a handspring step-out a flic flac, though. Others make no distinction/
that stupid sideward roll tucked by natalia shaposhnikova should not be worth a B..... anyone can do that, its stupid that it's even in the code let alone in an ACROBATIC beam guide
@AlmightyOwl yes but thats what they call it, like have you ever heard the compulsery music wth someone talking? on the final pass they always say flic flac
@QueenieQue The code makes no distinction between skills done from a stand and skills done out of a combination. It should be noted that by connecting a back handspring to a tuck back full (or any F or G skill), you would gain a .2 in connection bonus.
@jovani2293 If you mean the back handspring into three layout stepouts then yes but you wouldn't get much for it because in the old code (I know in 1996 it was this way) three layout stepouts were considered an E element and there was a connection bonus. In the new code, you would only get credit for one layout stepout and no connection bonuses.
Not the same way, but Catalina Ponor did a 5-skill aerial pass in 2006: Onodi+front aerial walkover+back handspring 1/1+back handspring stepout+layout 2-foot.
Because when you take off from one foot you can swing your body and leg in the direction you want, thus, creating momentum for the skill. When you take off from two feet the only way you can get power is from the bending in your legs and arms or from punching into skills.
hey i'm a little confused, what is a front aerial worth these days, i know in the video it says that its worth a D but people are saying in the comments that its only worth a C or a B, does anyone know for sure?
I doubt it, I've seen a beautiful gainer onodi. I believe an aerial onodi would be an arabian layout stepout like they used to do on floor in the 70's.
I've really learnt a lot about elite level gymanstics through your guides and about scoring, now I can watch routines and understand why athletes are scored the way they are not cry blasphemy everytime I see a low score for a routine, The new judging code is a step in the right direction after all and I'm waiting for an athlete to score 17. :-)
The difference is pretty minimal. The grigoras is supposed to by a front tuck with a half turn out of it, whereas the maaranen is a half twist straightaway into a back tuck. I personally think they should be worth the same since they are so similar
yeah chellsie memmel used to have trouble with the front half(F), she kept getting credited with doing a produnova(E) instead. of today's gymnasts jana bieger does it the cleanest.
Actually, she does it "piked" (its usually closer to tucked). the new COP does NOT list saltos to scales as one element - they just receive .1 in connection, and must be true saltos (as in, no more front aerials to scale, or onodi to scale)
That's such a bummer. An onodi to scale (a true scale) has got to be one of the most gorgeous moves on the beam. It's sad that point-wise it may not be worth the risk because of the new COP.
I meant , that was the Liukin connection as mentioned before, she ends the movement in a scale position, i don`t think so she is the first one to perform that... is She?!
you have to do it at a worlds or olympics and hand in paperwork. guess she didn't do one of those. but regardless there'd be no point, a full twisting back tuck is already a G.
I liked that you put Laschenova for the layout on 2 feet. She was usually so confident on this skill that everytime I see somebody else doing that I immediately remember of her for comparision.
Grrrr... I wish you hadn't used Nistor's back 1/1 as the example for that skill. She totally cheats the entry (takes off from a side 1/4 position).
I commend you for putting this together, though. It's very educational for the people unfamiliar with the names of skills and their values. Excellent job.
ActualLy, it is "Annamari". But big thanks to you, MostepanovaFan, for this and other CoP-videos! These are far more informative than those stick figures in the CoP-book.--
Love the video! Nice to know the names of things that commentators sometimes throw in. The music is wonderful... what pieces did you use? The first one sounds so familiar but I can't quite place it!
this will help me ALOT!!!!!im a ten yr. old gymnast but I learn how to do skills by watching other people preform them.I used 2 love beam but ever since last week im not 2 sure...I tried 2 do a switch leap,but I stradled and hit the middle of the beam.
Tucked arabian saulto.... no wonder it's an F
TheAdzyPadzy 3 weeks ago
i am in love with the worley !!!
happyari13 1 month ago
great montage
Is there any chance you could do one about tumbling passes on floor?
xrictinaaa1 1 month ago
awesome!!!! also, what's the music?
96horseluvr 2 months ago
can you please upload a tumbling pass guide ?
coconutmilkshakeXD 2 months ago in playlist Gymnastics Guides
I just realized that the first song is one of the ones we're singing in choir!
AngelDummonSchunard 3 months ago
What would a khorkina (floor move) to straddle on beam or khorkina (floor move) with only .5 instead of 1.5 into forward walkover be called?
pcgator2 5 months ago
5.401 is actually named after Mostepanova, MostepanovaFan
MrJST94 7 months ago
@MrJST94
little correction,
she only did it before Onodi did it :$.
MrJST94 4 months ago
3:28 I kid yall not, the words, "OOOOO SHIT!" Came out of my mouth instantly... O.O How on earth did that girl do that! Elvire Teza that is...
omegalavender 9 months ago
@omegalavender I know right?? That's a good way to break your ribs.
LMA629 6 months ago
3:28 I kid yall not, the words, "OOOOO SHIT!" Came out of my mouth instantly... O.O How on earth did that girl do that! Elvire Teza that is
omegalavender 9 months ago
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omegalavender 9 months ago
wow!!! you rock!!!!!!
neta666 9 months ago
Thanks for putting Koko's Onodi as an example. I love the way she does her Onodi!
AgymnasticFAN 9 months ago
I noticed the Kolesnikova in this video did not have the 1/2 turn after Pavlova's hands were placed. Is the 1/2 turn required in the skill?
ShawnVikaKomova2012 10 months ago
I can bearly do a handstand let alone this lets just say i wont being going into gymnastics :)
fluffylove44 11 months ago
iv been doing gymnastics with 3 years this year and i loovee it ....if i could do any of these on the floor id be seriously proud of myself!!....not to mind the beam!! haha
xDanceFreak2011x 11 months ago
Tht was amazing u did a good job in finding those clips and putting tht vid together
spicychick1172 1 year ago
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bunbacheso 1 year ago
what is the difference between a flic flac and a handspring?
bunbacheso 1 year ago
@bunbacheso Nothing, it's just different terms for the same move. Some people like to call a handspring step-out a flic flac, though. Others make no distinction/
TsubasaDreams 1 year ago
@bunbacheso I think handspring can mean both forwards or back but flic flacs normally mean back.
AndromedaAiken 9 months ago
only one G skill........
MrJST94 1 year ago
Why is nobody doing the Kochetkova anymore? It's such a cool skill when performed correctly, especially by the originator.
Simba85 1 year ago
Is the tucked arabian salto named after anyone?
Quie8 1 year ago
3:52 - 3:57 and 3:27 - 3:33.
nearly.
peed.
my pants.
lostfootx2342 1 year ago
I thought a Tinsica had different hand placement than a front walkover (hands to the side as in a cartwheel rather than hands facing forward)
peachebelle916 1 year ago
that stupid sideward roll tucked by natalia shaposhnikova should not be worth a B..... anyone can do that, its stupid that it's even in the code let alone in an ACROBATIC beam guide
bbhouk1 1 year ago
@bbhouk1 You're right!! Thats not worth that much it should be an A or TA!
Lydineetjuh 1 year ago
@Lydineetjuh
agreed
bbhouk1 1 year ago
could you possibly do an updated version of this video?
some of the moves have been "reconsidered" and been placed differently,
like a front walkover is now a 'B' skill, like a handstand forward roll
(:
xoloverlyjessiox 1 year ago
what is the second song?! i lovvee it
DreamNbelieveGYMNAST 1 year ago
WHAT IS THE SECOND SONG??? i love it
DreamNbelieveGYMNAST 1 year ago
some of these are crazy!!!
demiandjoel1 1 year ago
isnt a flic flac just a backhandspring?
AlmightyOwl 1 year ago
@AlmightyOwl yes but thats what they call it, like have you ever heard the compulsery music wth someone talking? on the final pass they always say flic flac
gymnastics245 1 year ago
@AlmightyOwl yea
mango11300 1 year ago
is zhang xia deng linlin's coach?
natalienat518 1 year ago
the tuck side salto is called side summi
Mrmartinnico 1 year ago
@Mrmartinnico LOL, salto and somi are actually from one word, somersault!! They refer to the same thing :-)
EdGringo78 10 months ago
Great montage.What the name of the music?
lilyia1 1 year ago
holy crap i thought the hardest level was E!! i didnt know they went up to f & g!!
LMA629 1 year ago
isn't the one at 2:38 an an onodi?
hockeygirl789 1 year ago
@hockeygirl789
yeah that's what it says
iwinyoulose101 1 year ago
she was so amazing , i have the film ..x
piklehed13 1 year ago
if you do a lay-out step-out, lay-out step-out on beam, are both of the elemnets acredited??????
gymboy1011 1 year ago
No, you can only count an element once towards your D score, although you could get the .1 connection bonus for it (.2 if you did three in a row).
MaebySurelyBarely 1 year ago
3.54, 5.308 looks fantastic!! I luv it but hey, I would like to know those songs?? Tell meeeee
elljj 1 year ago
Finally !!!!
It's
1.- LAKMÉ/THE FLOWER DUET
2.- STILL WATER
from MAKSIM MRVICA
fabogymnastics 1 year ago 4
SOOOOOO glad you posted this I have been searching for the names of those moves for centuries!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU are a LIFE SAVER!!!!
CAAJDJ 2 years ago
actually both the songs would be nice.
ModelChic242 2 years ago
whats the first song again? i know its a remix version of it. do you know what it's called?
ModelChic242 2 years ago
Do you plan to remake this for 2010, or will you just put the changes in the information box?
radicalbacon 2 years ago
Is there a reason there's no standing full? Is there no difference between that and the tucked back-salto performed here by Nistor?
QueenieQue 2 years ago
@QueenieQue The code makes no distinction between skills done from a stand and skills done out of a combination. It should be noted that by connecting a back handspring to a tuck back full (or any F or G skill), you would gain a .2 in connection bonus.
TsubasaDreams 2 years ago
haha! i was thinking the same thing! Peszek, Johnson, Gutsu (and some others, I'm sure) deserve a skill to call their own!!
jamesbondrocks 2 years ago
Are you sure about Severino's skill being a round off? Seems just a aerial cartwheel landed on 2 feet to me...
silivas4ever 2 years ago
It's a free aerial round-off, like the video says.
Vindicator1323 2 years ago
I'm confused about 5.611 and 5.514. What's the difference?
chrislindsey14 2 years ago
5.611; first comes the somersault and than the twist
5.514; first the twist and than the somersault
lylaha 2 years ago
Can someone pleassseee tell us what is the second song?? It is so beautiful that it hurts.
Hasoginy 2 years ago 17
Can you still do a 4 skilled aerial pass.
jovani2293 2 years ago
@jovani2293 If you mean the back handspring into three layout stepouts then yes but you wouldn't get much for it because in the old code (I know in 1996 it was this way) three layout stepouts were considered an E element and there was a connection bonus. In the new code, you would only get credit for one layout stepout and no connection bonuses.
TsubasaDreams 2 years ago
Not the same way, but Catalina Ponor did a 5-skill aerial pass in 2006: Onodi+front aerial walkover+back handspring 1/1+back handspring stepout+layout 2-foot.
auswriteratheart 2 years ago
I was just about to type that! hehe
Norris3MCR 2 years ago
@Hasoginy Hi, the tune sounds like a re-mix adn slower version of 'I will survive' (chorus) - thats what I think.
johncharnley1 1 year ago
@Hasoginy
Still Water by Maksim Mrvica
iwinyoulose101 6 months ago
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nicolefilpsalot 2 years ago
this may be stupid, but why is it more difficult to take off from two feet than from one?
radicalbacon 2 years ago
Beacause u can't use ur other foot for swing or purchase.
bruadair11 2 years ago
Because when you take off from one foot you can swing your body and leg in the direction you want, thus, creating momentum for the skill. When you take off from two feet the only way you can get power is from the bending in your legs and arms or from punching into skills.
MySportsFanatic 2 years ago
Where's the Liukin and Memmel?
itstheapocalypse 2 years ago 2
Side Aerial Cartwheel on beam is a C in the 2008-2009 code of points and I believe in the new 2009-2010 code it is a C also
DowisK 2 years ago
btw, I cant find the aerial cartwheel..? XD
lylaha 2 years ago 2
hey i'm a little confused, what is a front aerial worth these days, i know in the video it says that its worth a D but people are saying in the comments that its only worth a C or a B, does anyone know for sure?
darkeyes2404 2 years ago
why didnt u hav that cool airbesk one footed thing that nastia does?
missmouse35 2 years ago
it isn't 1 skill anymore in the new CoP.
it's a front aerial and a scale, so 2 different skills ^^
lylaha 2 years ago 2
@missmouse35 Changes in the 2009–2012 FIG Code of Points meant that the skill is no longer considered as an appropriate skill.
Manutdcailin 1 year ago
@Manutdcailin Does that mean that we'll no longer see the skills performed?
Logansbl 1 year ago
@Logansbl People can still do it but it is not 1 skill anymore!!
Manutdcailin 1 year ago
Nice video. In my gymnastics, we do front and backwalkovers on the beam, cartwheels, handstands, roundoffs, and leaps
MsGymnast77 2 years ago
greart video! would love to see it updated though for the current code. A free aerial is no longer a D its a C
DowisK 2 years ago
Front or cartwheel?
MySportsFanatic 2 years ago
i have almost all ur vids in my faves
723Rosebud1998 2 years ago 18
is it possible to do an aerial onodi?
just wondering..
lylaha 2 years ago 2
I'm not sure, but I'll add that to the list of skills I want to do someday XD
fishchimes 2 years ago
I don't think. Either way it probably wouldn't look to nice. But hey, who knows, it could be named after you one day.
Gr33nkiwi 2 years ago
I'm sure someone has tried... You could be the first to compete it.
MySportsFanatic 2 years ago
I doubt it, I've seen a beautiful gainer onodi. I believe an aerial onodi would be an arabian layout stepout like they used to do on floor in the 70's.
TsubasaDreams 2 years ago 5
thanks for your guides, I learned a lot from them !
and also from your routine guide, I finally understand the UB scores ^^
lylaha 2 years ago
I've really learnt a lot about elite level gymanstics through your guides and about scoring, now I can watch routines and understand why athletes are scored the way they are not cry blasphemy everytime I see a low score for a routine, The new judging code is a step in the right direction after all and I'm waiting for an athlete to score 17. :-)
islaandman 2 years ago 2
and i always thought a valdez was an A =/. did this recently change, or was a told wrong?
xtropical2 2 years ago
i have a question: has a front walkover always been an A? I always thought it was a B =/
xtropical2 2 years ago
Hah - I never realised that the side roll in Shawn's routine was actually coded.
I thought it was just choreography!
Thanks for these guides!
xLaurenGrahamx 2 years ago 4
me too! :]
purplelover81 2 years ago
may i know what is the second song?
Hasoginy 2 years ago
Just wondering, is the onodi to tic toc in the code? I do remember seeing someone do it once.
TsubasaDreams 2 years ago
Nice vid!!
chrislindsey13 2 years ago
isnt that the 1st song is the flower duet by delibes??
expelliarmus1234 2 years ago
love kui yuanyuan's beam work
youcleverguy 2 years ago
what's the name of the 2nd song and the composer?
krell88 2 years ago
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HailieNichole1995 2 years ago
It says Vera Cerna not Vera Caslavska
MostepanovaFan 2 years ago
sorry i misread it.
HailieNichole1995 2 years ago
wooooh.. nice!
what's the name of the gymnast who preforms a back walkover with support on one arm?
sexiigurll123 2 years ago
It says it right there....its cathy rigby
cuttingice47 2 years ago
the roll without hands is a B
Sharleentje14 2 years ago
thank u!
SissyfromGreece 2 years ago
duudee!! the Teza is a crazy skill! i wouldnt it for my life. id probably end up hitting my head really hard on the beam
moosegirl69 2 years ago 2
Yes, that's probably the most difficult E level skill along with the swith ring.
yueshili 2 years ago 2
Not all the skills are in this video, can it be?
USANieke 2 years ago
what about the 3/4 turn to yurchenko svetlana does that same with ykaterina lobyunuyk
paxoutfools 2 years ago 2
What about the Liukin???
Gymnastics2145 2 years ago 3
i think it should be called NISTOR
gyuasg 2 years ago
No Nastia so did it first. She came up with it and did it at the Olympics so it's rightfully hers
Gymnastics2145 2 years ago
Why shouldn't we just call it a free walk over to arabesque?
USANieke 2 years ago
But Nastia performs it in piked position =D
hitsugaya1001 2 years ago
can you tell me the time?
Sharleentje14 2 years ago
that is what the side roll tucked looks like?? i had no idea i saw it in the code and didnt think i had veer seen it before
gymnastics46 2 years ago
thank you SO much! im writing a story about a gymnast and i REALLY needed this! ;))) LOLZ
nothinbetter2do101 2 years ago
I don't understand the difference between 04:58 and 06:05. They look really similar but I guess the Grigoras is harder?
vespertined 2 years ago
The difference is pretty minimal. The grigoras is supposed to by a front tuck with a half turn out of it, whereas the maaranen is a half twist straightaway into a back tuck. I personally think they should be worth the same since they are so similar
MostepanovaFan 2 years ago
yeah chellsie memmel used to have trouble with the front half(F), she kept getting credited with doing a produnova(E) instead. of today's gymnasts jana bieger does it the cleanest.
mistybabe5489 2 years ago
what's the second song called? it's so pretty
musicdanslanuit 2 years ago
the pike side salto was actually performed by proskurina, not koval yo :).
ooplopoo 2 years ago 3
Is there an H level skill?
vespertined 2 years ago
No, but some of the ones that are valued at G have the same skill performed with an extra full twist, and it's still a G.
SchwarzeWitwe2 2 years ago
Does anyone know the name of the second tune? It's so music box .... sounds like something that one would use for a ballet.
DYWK 2 years ago
Is it possible to do a front flip with a full twist on beam?
violet46 2 years ago
no ones done it yet
kewlioto 2 years ago
Wat about the Liukin? When she does a front layout salto and lands on one leg. I think its a salto but I am not sure lol
AJMcSnowyPenguin22 2 years ago
Actually, she does it "piked" (its usually closer to tucked). the new COP does NOT list saltos to scales as one element - they just receive .1 in connection, and must be true saltos (as in, no more front aerials to scale, or onodi to scale)
kewlioto 2 years ago
That's such a bummer. An onodi to scale (a true scale) has got to be one of the most gorgeous moves on the beam. It's sad that point-wise it may not be worth the risk because of the new COP.
vespertined 2 years ago 3
The skill is named after her in the code of points but the FIG recognizes the skill as a combonation
TsubasaDreams 2 years ago
No. This is actually a free aerial walkover, that is a B, and then one more free aerial walkover in a scale position (2s) that is a D.
:)
Andrespgfld 2 years ago
I meant , that was the Liukin connection as mentioned before, she ends the movement in a scale position, i don`t think so she is the first one to perform that... is She?!
Andrespgfld 2 years ago
May I request an UB pirouettes montage?
DYWK 3 years ago 2
anyone know why full-twisting back pike salto is not in the code? I know Amy Chow used to do it.
kewlioto 3 years ago
you have to do it at a worlds or olympics and hand in paperwork. guess she didn't do one of those. but regardless there'd be no point, a full twisting back tuck is already a G.
mistybabe5489 2 years ago
actually its an F. the layout is a G, so I wonder what they would put pike as (my guess is F)
kewlioto 2 years ago
opps my bad. mostly they put tucked and picked moves as the same difficulty so i agree it'd be an F.
mistybabe5489 2 years ago
When in the code, it was an F
Yangyun4ever 2 years ago
thanx!! ;-)
Stella1love 3 years ago
thats amazing work ! where did you get these videos ? Answer please
elljj 3 years ago
Beautiful Mostepanova fan!! I guess you're aware of the Garrison layout performed at the AYOF by Sasada. It's a G. Amazing!!
jordivalbuena 3 years ago
what's the second song?
ModelChic242 3 years ago
Thanks for this! So helpful to have these examples, and to see elements side-by-side. Thanks!!
metamoo 3 years ago
seriously what is the name of the song cause i really want to use this as my floor music?
ModelChic242 3 years ago
what is the sing called? i love i. ive herd it before and i know it's originally classical.
ModelChic242 3 years ago
i meant for both the songs #1 and 2
ModelChic242 3 years ago
Where do you get all these wonderful pieces of music for your montages.
DYWK 3 years ago
I liked that you put Laschenova for the layout on 2 feet. She was usually so confident on this skill that everytime I see somebody else doing that I immediately remember of her for comparision.
PilotoRGS 3 years ago 3
ditto!
metamoo 3 years ago
Grrrr... I wish you hadn't used Nistor's back 1/1 as the example for that skill. She totally cheats the entry (takes off from a side 1/4 position).
I commend you for putting this together, though. It's very educational for the people unfamiliar with the names of skills and their values. Excellent job.
mrparke007 3 years ago 2
I totally agree.
PilotoRGS 3 years ago
ActualLy, it is "Annamari". But big thanks to you, MostepanovaFan, for this and other CoP-videos! These are far more informative than those stick figures in the CoP-book.--
kvehmane 3 years ago
you spelled one name wrong=) it's Anna-Mari Maaranen
BoguinskayaZ 3 years ago
What's the music?
vesperholly 3 years ago
Very impressive and thorough work. Your dedication is quite apparent. Good on you!
duder1997 3 years ago
The Rulfova and the Teza just scare me every time. I hate to think what happens if the gymnast misses. Great skills - but very dangerous.
GalitMirav 3 years ago 2
Beautiful music. Awesome vid.
GalitMirav 3 years ago
a front walkover is a B
narutoanimefan88 3 years ago
Love the video! Nice to know the names of things that commentators sometimes throw in. The music is wonderful... what pieces did you use? The first one sounds so familiar but I can't quite place it!
chaosineffigy 3 years ago
this will help me ALOT!!!!!im a ten yr. old gymnast but I learn how to do skills by watching other people preform them.I used 2 love beam but ever since last week im not 2 sure...I tried 2 do a switch leap,but I stradled and hit the middle of the beam.
mbmjr81 3 years ago
this is great!! could you make one for the jumps/turns etc?
violaroadkill 3 years ago 2
Thanks so much for this! I love watching gymnastics, but I don't always understand what I'm seeing. This cleared up a lot.
Could you make these for other apparatus too?
humbersidehusky 3 years ago
Can you remake montages of your favorite beam workers, vault, etc again? Why did they become removed?
wht1t3cr4y0n 3 years ago
My account got deleted :( I'm trying to get my old videos back up, I will probably remake my favourites montages again, they need updating :)
MostepanovaFan 3 years ago
what happened to stephthemagicdragon?
wht1t3cr4y0n 3 years ago
that was awesome..any chance you could do dismounts and other events?
beamqueen2 3 years ago
I can make a dismount one and some other event ones, they take a while to do though as I have to try and track down some of the obscure moves :)
MostepanovaFan 3 years ago
thats fine with me. that would be awesome by the way!
beamqueen2 3 years ago 5
loved it!!!
ClayBabe31 3 years ago 2