FreedomWorks' Matt Kibbe Talks with CAP Action Fund on MSNBC

[flybynite5]

As if the libs didn't do the same !

[smneider]

Its guys like this Igor who has made America the weak, declining country it is today! If the proposed Healthcare is so GREAT, then why does Congress not going to be using it? Someone please answer that question for me.

[FirstCoastTea]

Matt Kibbe and Freedomworks are collecting millions of dollars riding the Tea Party wave and have nothing to do with Tea Parties. Wake up Tea Party people Freedomworks is no better than the Republican Party.

[killerbandit]

FYI, from the memo:

Try To Rattle Him, Not Have An Intelligent Debate: The goal is to rattle him, get him off his prepared script and agenda. If he says something outrageous, stand up and shout out and sit right back down. Look for these opportunities before he even takes questions.

The people who stand to loose the most from reform of health care are the for profit health rationing insurance agencies.

[ferrozm]

oh right is that why this bill was written by the lobbyists? This bill represents those special interests a lot more.

[killerbandit]

You are joking right? So the lobbyists want to see health care socialized so they can't make profits from denying their payees coverage when they need it?

[ferrozm]

no because they want constant subsidies from the government so that they won't even have to worry about pleasing customers.

[killerbandit]

You think they are worried about pleasing customers right now? If you get sick and they can think of ANY reason to deny you care they will do it.... and reward the person who helped deny you coverage.

[ferrozm]

in a free market they would be losing money for denying because customers would be unhappy and leave them but govt puts unnecessary mandates on the health insurance plans of every person raising costs of primary care. licensing laws also make it so insurance companies are only a few companies all due to govt.

[killerbandit]

Custormers would go where? To the next insurance company who does the exact same thing... They ALL deny coverage now and I see no reason why they would change this as long as profit is their first motive far ahead of actually paying for people to get treated.

[ferrozm]

if they keep denying they get no profit. the only reason they make such profit now is due to inflation and the near monopoly they have because of govt licensing laws and because of the costs that federal mandates impose on them.

[killerbandit]

You want to know what raises costs, paying billion dollar bonuses to CEO's.

Health care is not like shopping for groceries. You can't just up and decide right before you need treatment to switch coverage, especially with a pre-existing condition.

[ferrozm]

if the fed govt didnt impose mandates there would be special niches for insurance companies that deal with the symptoms of that condition.

[chevydriver1123]

Actually he has a point, some business want to shift Healthcare to the government because then the burden is lifted off the individual business and redistributed among the tax payers. Employer sponsored insurance is really expensive, Im a retail manager its a big cost.

[ferrozm]

i'm not saying we ought to keep this one but obama's plan is bad. distributed among the tax payer right? that eliminates competition and innovation because of the fixed amt. govt will pay for certain procedure so there is no incentive for certain doctors to innovate and charge cheaper to beat his competitors.

[chevydriver1123]

Oh no doubt Obama's plan is nothing but garbage I was just point out that some business are for a national plan for the reason I stated.

[killerbandit]

You want to know why these groups are being ridiculed? It is because they are just mouth pieces spouting what their corporate masters have told them to say.

Keep your damn dirty hands off my medicare..... hahaha, your base are mindless idiots that do not know what they are even talking about.