The cornerstone teaching of Jesus was the kingdom of God (Mark 1:14,15; Matt 12:28, 29). Jesus came to make God's kingdom a reality in contrast to the kingdom of this world (Rome), which is a synonym for all the kingdoms in rebellion to God. His ministry was to Jews (Matt 10:6: 15:24) would later take on a world-wide thrust (to the Roman Empire) through His powered by His Spirit disciples (Acts 1:8; 2:4). A ministry that remains today (Matthew 11:29). Take My Yoke means become My Disciple.
@fothgt You see I don't read the story of Jesus as you do. On the one hand, I see him as a revolutionary bent on destroying corruption and Roman domination. On the other, I see him as married man (to Mary Magdalene - who some of the other disciples despised because Jesus spent more time with her than them) who preached love and forgiveness and who said that the kingdom of God was within each person and that you don't have to ask anyone to interpret God for you - there are no intermediaries. etc
@xeron123456 If that was the case Jesus would have went to Rome. He didn't. His ministry was largely in Galilee and Judea. His concern though for the Romans was so awesome that He prepared His disciples on what is called in contemporary Christian circles "short term missionary trips" (Matthew 10:1-42; Luke 10:1-22) and after His resurrection told them to "teach all nations" (Matthew 28:18-20). A task He (JESUS) left for His followers (disciples) both then and NOW! see also Romans 1:16.
@mrtruthify - everyone wants to go to heaven but NOBODY wants to die. If there is a Christian 'heaven', which I doubt, I would not want to go there is people like "mrtruthify" are allowed in. Obviously, mrtruthify, you need psychiatric help. I'm definitely not posting your racist clap trap. You need to read what Jesus son of Mary actually said and what his wife, Mary Magdalene, actually said. Yes, I know the church heirarchy wants you to believe that Mary was a prostitute, but that is a lie.
@JewCommunist Sure, there seems to be evidence that the historical Jesus was married and had children. Why not? He was a rabbi, no? And rabbis had to be married. But I'm not an expert on Christianity. I can't understand the concept of a loving God who would want to burn all those who don't believe that Jesus was a God. Doesn't make sense to me. Anyway, I have no interest in that discussion. Debate it with experts who don't have closed minds.
@xeron123456 Your evidence is that Jesus was a Rabbi?. If he had kids that would be front page kind of news? Ive never heard that I would ask what their names were but it seems that might not make sense. See ya when your feeling better mate.
@JewCommunist@JewCommunist I'm sure this is a burning issue for you. I'm assuming that Jesus was a a leader/teacher. He seemed to have detailed knowledge of law and observances. Maybe do some research yourself. With respect to marriage, there is a whole slew of popular and academic books on Jesus' relationship with Mary Magdalene (e.g., wikipedia). The popular 'Da Vinci Code' was based on some of this literature. Why wouldn't he have married? Did y know he had brothers?
@xeron123456 I ask you about the notion that Jesus had children, that you proffered. and you say that maybe I should "do some research" about it.. Its not a burning issue for me friend. He certainly didnt have children.
Your a complete idiot. Dont reply, nobody gives 2 shits what you think but you .
@JewCommunist Then why write asking for info. Too lazy to do any research. I showed you where to start looking. Get of your sorry ass and do some work in stead of whining. Its a sorry state of affairs when all you guys do is whine, whine and more whine. make something of yourselves. Get a job. Make a job and do something worthwhile. Oh, too hard. So sorry. Your parents must be really proud. And, my what big words we have found in the thesaurus. And, you used it in the right context. Wow.Acciden
@xeron123456 there is no such thing as evolution, read bible again, genesis says
"kind after kind, seed having life within itself" of caurse this (and other verses)show that God, or Yahweh, created all races seperate, look in the 'Strongs concordance' for Adom' Hebrew #119, it means to show blood in the face, be ruddy/rosey. only one race blushes red my friend, only one. if you wish to have more on the subject, go to Christogenea(google it).
@wesleycobo You are insane. Why are so many of you Christian Identity guys are so crazy? Well, of course, the answer is that you must be insane to accept Christian Identity! 1) The old testament was written by Jews. 2) People from many areas of the world blush and show red in the face. If you are Northern European and get a heavy sun tan, then blushing may not be so visible, but we are all part of the human race anyway.
@wesleycobo What more can I say? You have not idea what DNA is about or, for that matter, the Christian bible. But, no matter how entertaining this little exchange has been, it hasn't gone anywhere and so, like all things, it must come to an end. If you have anything intelligent to add, I will post it. Otherwise, this is it.
@xeron123456 It simply amazes me how someone can say they love all races and then suport action that will destroy them! it is a philosify that sounds good on paper, but in action acomplishes the opasite thing desired. where as Christianity as believed for 2000 years up until just a few decades ago, is consistent in its respect and presurvation for God's (Yahweh's) creation.
@wesleycobo This is driving me crazy. I don't have time to waste on correcting you. We don't "love all races"! That's nonsense. We love the "human race". All people are basically the very same - same needs, same desires, same, same same. Christianity should be based on what it can be shown that Jesus, a jewish rabbi said: the rich don't go to "heaven", people who forgive and let live like children do. There is no hell, except the one we make for ourselves through selfishness. Be compassionate...
@xeron123456 be compassionate.. right, of caurse! but when you say 'we' what do you mean? jessus a jEw rabbi?! right, somhow I get the feeling your not even Christian.... any comments/corrections?
the hell coment sounds prety good though, I can agree with that.
@xeron123456 That's right. He was a Jew and he was a radical who believed in social and economic justice... its harder for a rich man to get into the kingdom of god, etc.. let him without a sin throw the first stone, etc.
@wesleycobo You are delusional. There is only one human race. The colour of one's skin does not make any difference, except to a few who are delusional. Keep on giving money to your leaders and continue to believe their drivel and see where it gets you and your neighbours. Or, here's a thought, try to learn from those who have gone down the failed path of Nazi ideology and make a change.
You talk about respect Mr. Noble. You have lost the most precious form of respect, that being self respect. To listen to you grovel at the feet of God's enemies is repulsive at best. You most certainly are now testing just how patient and forgiving God is. There will be no place to hide your shame on judgment day.
@Drighten you are so crazy and misinformed. Have you read the New Testament. It speaks about forgiveness, compassion and working for others to help them. Your view of God is based on an ugly, deformed hateful and view of the world.
True Christian identity is not about revolt it is about servitude to other that is what the Messiah taught. Most of the people I have come accross is about hatred their is nothing Christian about that.
@wesleycobo Christianity was all about a radical Jewish group whose leader - think about it - was a Jew! But how do you draw the line around a "race". We are all descended from a common ancestral group in Africa. We are all human and part of the "human race." And, it wouldn't be much of a religion if it was only for a fraction of human kind. You really have to think before you write, or are you just jocking!! Of course, its a joke. Sorry for taking it seriously.
The CSA were a pretty dangerous group, both both because they were well organized, well armed (primarily with HK 91s and Mini 14s that were illegally converted to fire in full auto, one member who was in the army was "borrowing" some hardware from work and they were making explosives and grenades), and topped off with a very fanatical and rabid ideology that preached violence and hatred.
Thankfully groups like the CSA are far and few between.
Well its not so, they are not few or far between, read Kerry Noble's book. There are many many groups like CSA. It is a wide spread movement behind the political Right Wing in the US, they resort to terrorism regularly. Terrorism and violence is the ultimate outcome when you have unsubstantiated beliefs like religion mixing in the public sector.
Everyone search... "How the bible led me to islam: a story of a former Christian Youth minister - Joshua Evans" Great speach.
Also search "MUhammad in the bible"
BlueMoon858 7 months ago
The cornerstone teaching of Jesus was the kingdom of God (Mark 1:14,15; Matt 12:28, 29). Jesus came to make God's kingdom a reality in contrast to the kingdom of this world (Rome), which is a synonym for all the kingdoms in rebellion to God. His ministry was to Jews (Matt 10:6: 15:24) would later take on a world-wide thrust (to the Roman Empire) through His powered by His Spirit disciples (Acts 1:8; 2:4). A ministry that remains today (Matthew 11:29). Take My Yoke means become My Disciple.
fothgt 7 months ago
@fothgt You see I don't read the story of Jesus as you do. On the one hand, I see him as a revolutionary bent on destroying corruption and Roman domination. On the other, I see him as married man (to Mary Magdalene - who some of the other disciples despised because Jesus spent more time with her than them) who preached love and forgiveness and who said that the kingdom of God was within each person and that you don't have to ask anyone to interpret God for you - there are no intermediaries. etc
xeron123456 7 months ago
@xeron123456 If that was the case Jesus would have went to Rome. He didn't. His ministry was largely in Galilee and Judea. His concern though for the Romans was so awesome that He prepared His disciples on what is called in contemporary Christian circles "short term missionary trips" (Matthew 10:1-42; Luke 10:1-22) and after His resurrection told them to "teach all nations" (Matthew 28:18-20). A task He (JESUS) left for His followers (disciples) both then and NOW! see also Romans 1:16.
fothgt 7 months ago
The 1980 Jewish Almanac, p. 3, in the first chapter entitled,
“Identity Crisis” said… “Strictly speaking, it is INCORRECT to
call an ancient Israelite a ‘Jew’ or to call a contemporary Jew an
‘Israelite’ or a ‘Hebrew.’”
“Here is a paradox . . . A most ingenious paradox: an ANTHROPOLOGICAL
FACT, many [Caucasian] Christians may have MUCH MORE Hebrew-Israelite blood in
their veins than most of their Jewish neighbors.” Jewish author,
Alfred M. Lilienthal, What Price Israel, p. 223
mrtruthify 4 months ago
@mrtruthify - everyone wants to go to heaven but NOBODY wants to die. If there is a Christian 'heaven', which I doubt, I would not want to go there is people like "mrtruthify" are allowed in. Obviously, mrtruthify, you need psychiatric help. I'm definitely not posting your racist clap trap. You need to read what Jesus son of Mary actually said and what his wife, Mary Magdalene, actually said. Yes, I know the church heirarchy wants you to believe that Mary was a prostitute, but that is a lie.
xeron123456 8 months ago
@xeron123456 Im I reading this right? Jesus... and... his wife, Mary Magdalene? Good Grief! Good luck with that...your going to need it.
JewCommunist 8 months ago
@JewCommunist Sure, there seems to be evidence that the historical Jesus was married and had children. Why not? He was a rabbi, no? And rabbis had to be married. But I'm not an expert on Christianity. I can't understand the concept of a loving God who would want to burn all those who don't believe that Jesus was a God. Doesn't make sense to me. Anyway, I have no interest in that discussion. Debate it with experts who don't have closed minds.
xeron123456 8 months ago
@xeron123456 The point stands - everyone wants to go to heaven, but no one wants to die. Another paradox!
xeron123456 8 months ago
@xeron123456 Your evidence is that Jesus was a Rabbi?. If he had kids that would be front page kind of news? Ive never heard that I would ask what their names were but it seems that might not make sense. See ya when your feeling better mate.
JewCommunist 8 months ago
@JewCommunist @JewCommunist I'm sure this is a burning issue for you. I'm assuming that Jesus was a a leader/teacher. He seemed to have detailed knowledge of law and observances. Maybe do some research yourself. With respect to marriage, there is a whole slew of popular and academic books on Jesus' relationship with Mary Magdalene (e.g., wikipedia). The popular 'Da Vinci Code' was based on some of this literature. Why wouldn't he have married? Did y know he had brothers?
xeron123456 8 months ago
@xeron123456 I ask you about the notion that Jesus had children, that you proffered. and you say that maybe I should "do some research" about it.. Its not a burning issue for me friend. He certainly didnt have children.
Your a complete idiot. Dont reply, nobody gives 2 shits what you think but you .
JewCommunist 8 months ago
@JewCommunist Then why write asking for info. Too lazy to do any research. I showed you where to start looking. Get of your sorry ass and do some work in stead of whining. Its a sorry state of affairs when all you guys do is whine, whine and more whine. make something of yourselves. Get a job. Make a job and do something worthwhile. Oh, too hard. So sorry. Your parents must be really proud. And, my what big words we have found in the thesaurus. And, you used it in the right context. Wow.Acciden
xeron123456 8 months ago
neo nazis and extremist christians are only a bunch of losers with very low self-esteem and a perverted tendency to dress weirdly
emiliob7878 1 year ago
This guy is discusting! he's leting his kids go off with those outside their race?! thats not Christian!
wesleycobo 1 year ago
@wesleycobo You must be jocking. The founder of the religion was a Jew as were many of his radical political group.
xeron123456 1 year ago
@xeron123456 there is no such thing as evolution, read bible again, genesis says
"kind after kind, seed having life within itself" of caurse this (and other verses)show that God, or Yahweh, created all races seperate, look in the 'Strongs concordance' for Adom' Hebrew #119, it means to show blood in the face, be ruddy/rosey. only one race blushes red my friend, only one. if you wish to have more on the subject, go to Christogenea(google it).
wesleycobo 1 year ago
@wesleycobo You are insane. Why are so many of you Christian Identity guys are so crazy? Well, of course, the answer is that you must be insane to accept Christian Identity! 1) The old testament was written by Jews. 2) People from many areas of the world blush and show red in the face. If you are Northern European and get a heavy sun tan, then blushing may not be so visible, but we are all part of the human race anyway.
xeron123456 1 year ago
@xeron123456 the Bible and DNA say otherwise.
and also why are you so adament to destroy what God created?
he said 'it is good' why do you wish to adulturate it?
wesleycobo 1 year ago
@wesleycobo What more can I say? You have not idea what DNA is about or, for that matter, the Christian bible. But, no matter how entertaining this little exchange has been, it hasn't gone anywhere and so, like all things, it must come to an end. If you have anything intelligent to add, I will post it. Otherwise, this is it.
xeron123456 1 year ago
@xeron123456 It simply amazes me how someone can say they love all races and then suport action that will destroy them! it is a philosify that sounds good on paper, but in action acomplishes the opasite thing desired. where as Christianity as believed for 2000 years up until just a few decades ago, is consistent in its respect and presurvation for God's (Yahweh's) creation.
wesleycobo 1 year ago
@wesleycobo This is driving me crazy. I don't have time to waste on correcting you. We don't "love all races"! That's nonsense. We love the "human race". All people are basically the very same - same needs, same desires, same, same same. Christianity should be based on what it can be shown that Jesus, a jewish rabbi said: the rich don't go to "heaven", people who forgive and let live like children do. There is no hell, except the one we make for ourselves through selfishness. Be compassionate...
xeron123456 1 year ago
@xeron123456 be compassionate.. right, of caurse! but when you say 'we' what do you mean? jessus a jEw rabbi?! right, somhow I get the feeling your not even Christian.... any comments/corrections?
the hell coment sounds prety good though, I can agree with that.
wesleycobo 1 year ago
@xeron123456 That's right. He was a Jew and he was a radical who believed in social and economic justice... its harder for a rich man to get into the kingdom of god, etc.. let him without a sin throw the first stone, etc.
xeron123456 1 year ago
@wesleycobo You are delusional. There is only one human race. The colour of one's skin does not make any difference, except to a few who are delusional. Keep on giving money to your leaders and continue to believe their drivel and see where it gets you and your neighbours. Or, here's a thought, try to learn from those who have gone down the failed path of Nazi ideology and make a change.
xeron123456 1 year ago
You talk about respect Mr. Noble. You have lost the most precious form of respect, that being self respect. To listen to you grovel at the feet of God's enemies is repulsive at best. You most certainly are now testing just how patient and forgiving God is. There will be no place to hide your shame on judgment day.
Drighten 1 year ago
@Drighten you are so crazy and misinformed. Have you read the New Testament. It speaks about forgiveness, compassion and working for others to help them. Your view of God is based on an ugly, deformed hateful and view of the world.
xeron123456 1 year ago
True Christian identity is not about revolt it is about servitude to other that is what the Messiah taught. Most of the people I have come accross is about hatred their is nothing Christian about that.
rclamb04 2 years ago
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wesleycobo 1 year ago
@wesleycobo Christianity was all about a radical Jewish group whose leader - think about it - was a Jew! But how do you draw the line around a "race". We are all descended from a common ancestral group in Africa. We are all human and part of the "human race." And, it wouldn't be much of a religion if it was only for a fraction of human kind. You really have to think before you write, or are you just jocking!! Of course, its a joke. Sorry for taking it seriously.
xeron123456 1 year ago
The CSA were a pretty dangerous group, both both because they were well organized, well armed (primarily with HK 91s and Mini 14s that were illegally converted to fire in full auto, one member who was in the army was "borrowing" some hardware from work and they were making explosives and grenades), and topped off with a very fanatical and rabid ideology that preached violence and hatred.
Thankfully groups like the CSA are far and few between.
UCSPanther20 2 years ago
Well its not so, they are not few or far between, read Kerry Noble's book. There are many many groups like CSA. It is a wide spread movement behind the political Right Wing in the US, they resort to terrorism regularly. Terrorism and violence is the ultimate outcome when you have unsubstantiated beliefs like religion mixing in the public sector.
jaikwillis 2 years ago
its all a matter of perspective i suppose
grasscat1977 2 years ago