To the sheeple !! out there, this is Propaganda at it's best...He's a puppet to the Eternal jew Lord Rothschild aka bank of England, who's family (rothschilds/BOE) founded Hitler !!..I have still not received an answer to my question : Why are the BNP in bed with the semite jews ( BNP have PAYED jewish members also A BNP jewish Councillor !?).Ps this information is a matter of record !....do a quick search on the NEW WORLD ORDER and see how deep this rabbi-t hole goes....
Scientists have no motivation to falsify results. Scientists are just normal people doing what they do well. The vast majority of scientists have no political connections and nothing to gain from making stuff up. Every single RESPECTABLE and well established scientific organisation in the world agrees that man is having a great negative effect in terms of contribution to global warming. The facts are there.
It is the naive corrupt political and economical powers that are trying to play it down.
Listen you NWO scumbag the games up and all over the world people are rising up against your eugenics programmes and Hitler style global goverment. Socialism always leads to the same results your poster boys Hitler and stalin killed million never again you pond scum
I don't think the term Eugenics has any relevance here. I also suggest you learn respect and tolerance of different ideas. I support the "green movement" because I have compassion for people and want to make a positive impact on this world. The worst you could call such an opinion is misguided. Scum pond and scumbag are completely unnecessary.
So do you think that a policy that views Africans as pollution and starves them to death is anything other than evil. if so it is about time you took a look at the people behind your movement look into the Rothschilds you will find they have a long history of evil criminal activities. If you want to as you say have a posative impact then stand against the New World Order profit should never come before people. You have been decieved t we all get fooled so research and change sides
What's really sad is that no one even speaks of the hacked emails from the British University, letting on to show that man-made Global Warming is a Hoax after all. It's very clear that the purpose of Copenhagen is NOT to provide solutions to global warming, but it is indeed there to end freedom and demoralize the spirit of the human being.
/watch?v=PMe5dOgbu40&fmt=18
Even if Global Warming was real, the things that will be done as a result of Copenhagen won't be worth anything.
Global warming = carbon taxes 20-40%Tax increase get ready to pay ! =population control = swine flu+shot = Baxter = Rothchilds =Global warming = LIes ,Greed ,control = NWO .All the same people are involved ! what a wicked web they weave ,and they are banking on the fact that most people are too stupid to figure it out ! That is their trump card .
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I agree with Nick Griffin that the far-left loons have reached an Orwellian consensus that is not based not on scientific agreement, but on bullying, censorship and fraudulent statistics.
Climate change is being used to impose an anti-human utopia as deadly as anything conceived by Stalin or Communist China. It's definitely the successor to communism for the intellectual left.
The Elite call you dumb slaves, they laugh at you while they program you with their institutions and their media empires and propaganda machines. And you laugh at the people who warn you and expose the New World Order.
"A really efficient totalitarian state would be one in which the all-powerful executive of political bosses and their army of managers control a population of slaves who do not have to be coerced, because they love their servitude."
8) It is such unusual weather that makes people think that it is happening what they repeatedly call "climate change". 9) People around the world would, this way, vote in favour of more action on their provoked "climate change". 10) Please stop SPRAYING THE SKIES with those particulates for one year and you will see the true "climate change". 11) Only then we can adapt to it. 12) So, there is not only ONE climate change, there is TWO climate changes: one natural, the other artificial.
5) Since the effect of warming is strong, some "crazy scientists" decide (without consulting the population) to oppose such effect producing lots of artificial clouds over the lands and now over the ocean. 6) They expect that light from sun will be reflected back to the space this way, and also they can make some other "secret" experiments. 7) This constant and insistent activity is provoking lots of unusual storms and unusual weather (winter is only slightly different from summer now).
I think like this: 1) I FEEL in the skin the sunlight much stronger than before in last years, in summer and even in winter. 2) This means the planet will naturally tend to warm. 3) I don't know why the sunlight is stronger, but it can be either because the sun is in a stronger period of activity or our atmosphere is protecting us less. 4) I want politicians to answer to tell me which is the truth.
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I suppose carbon caused the ice age also. Its all about solar cycles. If you think the weather around the world is bad now just imagine living in one of the extreme hot or cold cycles that man has never even seen nor recorded. Do I think that we need to find alternate sources of energy? Yes. Do I think that money or taxes will solve the energy crisis in the world? Not in the hands of the power elite.
So what if Nick Griffin's attending? Hitler used to attend stuff too.
Fact is, whether you believe in Global Warming, or you are with the god botherers and the nazis, it still makes sense to not pollute, to use fewer resources; to recycle, and to find alternatives.
I don't want Nick Griffin to represent the climate change fraud as his association with Fascism discredits the argument against man made climate change and CO2 as a global warming gas. But this is what the elites want isn't it.
The earth is supposed to be a couple of degrees cooler than it currently is. For a planet like the earth warming it up or cooling it by a few degrees makes a tremendous difference. During the last Ice Age the global temperature was only like 4 degrees cooler than it is now. If it raises another degree and a half from where it is now the caps could melt and put tens of coastal cities underwater.
Last Ice Age ended 12,000-10,000 years ago if I'm not mistaken. There was a minor Ice Age from 1400-1800 AD. The world temperature dropped like a degree or so.
Somewhat. A minor one. Still, temperatures are far above what they were at any other point in human history. CO2 and methane levels are also far above what they were at any point tens of millions of years prior. The last time it was elevated was because of increased volcanism. There hasn't been a significant increase in volcanism in millions of years.
Because we've been measuring for quite a while and we can deduce what the temperatures are based on ice core samples and rock records.
The minor Ice Age has little to do with global warming.
"when did global warming start?"
The real beginning would be the late 19th century. It's funny you're making such bold claims when it's obvious you don't know much about climate science.
The earth's temperature doesn't really NEED to be a certain temperature for it's own sake. But to sustain humans and the current lifeforms on the planet it needs to stay within the range it has been from 6000 BC to 1600 CE.
Water vapor constitutes Earth's most significant greenhouse gas, accounting for about 95% of Earth's greenhouse effect (4). Interestingly, many "facts and figures' regarding global warming completely ignore the powerful effects of water vapor in the greenhouse system, carelessly (perhaps, deliberately) overstating human impacts as much as 20-fold.
Ah, I looked it up. I think you're referring to the fact that water vapor doubles the effect of CO2 as a GHG. It's called "positive feedback". But it doesn't contribute to 95% of the greenhouse effect:
(dot) skepticalscience (dot) com / water - vapor - greenhouse - gas (dot) htm
And you're using numbers from the same sources you're now condemning.
Make up your mind. Are these sources reliable or unreliable? You quote them when you think they agree with you and then claim they're lies when they don't agree with you.
Do you have evidence that tree ring data is reliable?
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well thats what i read and it sounds good to me.
i think mans contribution to global warming is less than what you think.
you see bs that you like the sound of it so you buy it. same here the water vapor rules sounds good to me. the planets just evolving and theres nothing that can be done to stop it
It might be but it's at least 50% of the contribution. It's estimated natural causes make up no more than 31% of current climate change.
The climate is indeed changing naturally to a degree but man is making the situation much worse than it would naturally be. CO2 and water vapor exacerbate the greenhouse effect exponentially. If man would get pollution (and deforestation, another part of the equation many don't think about) under the control we could mitigate global warming to a degree.
upload (dot) wikimedia (dot) org / wikipedia / commons/c/ c1 / 2000 _ Year _ Temperature _ Comparison (dot) png
The CO2 levels are even worse. They're far about what they were in 1600 CE. They haven't been this high in millions of years. Last time they were that high was because there was several times more volcanic activity than there currently is.
Cow farts are not the main source of world methane, though they are a significant contributor. Do you know why? Industrial animal husbandry for fast food restaurants.
Not to mention more of the ice caps have melted than at any point in millions of years, lung cancer rate from carbon dioxide has gone way up, Australia is on fire, Britain is drowning in rain, there are massive dust storms due to drying out of huge masses of land, we just had the hottest decade in human history (notice the mild summers in many parts of the US for the past decade?), etc.
You can see global warming happening by just going outside.
Lung Cancer from carbon dioxide ? HAHAHA. Here is a quote for you. Straight from the mouths of the elites we are fighting who want to tax the gas you exhale. And are admittedly setting up a global government right now!
" Diet, injections, and injunctions will combine, from a very early age, to produce the sort of character and the sort of beliefs that the authoritarians consider desirable, and any serious criticism of the powers that be will become psychologically impossible." Bertrand Russell.
"Gradually, by selective breeding, the congenital differences between rulers and ruled will increase until they become almost different species. A revolt of the plebs would become as unthinkable as an organized insurrection of sheep against the practice of eating mutton." Bertrand Russell. There you go they can say it right out in the open.
Channel 4 reported that a leaked report of what will be on the agenda at copenhagen will have nothing to do with climate change, it's just a smokescreen and we all now know of the climate swindle and of what WILL be on the agenda.
Nick Griffin is a racist fascist who doesn't care about anything else. He's a joker of an MP, completely clueless. He also said he's let the banks collapse, complete lunacy. No credibility.
in the documentary 'The Great Global Warming Swindle' (not hoax) the IPCC scientists state the that Co2 levels follow heat not the other way round
The leaked/hacked/release Climategate email s and data clearly show - fraud, data, manipulation, hiding the decline. Attempting to subvert the peer review if any scientists does not go along with the new dogma.
Lol, and what are the sources used by this documentary? What's your proof they are reliable? Clearly they're wrong because that's definitely not what the IPCC says. Nor is the IPCC the main source on heat trends.
You keep dogmatically citing this documentary like it's a Bible.
Ice core samples have shown natural CO2 levels have not changed in 650,000 years. The 2000s was the hottest decade in recorded history and temperature trends have steadily risen since the 18th century (and it rises faster as industrialization grows). CO2 and methane levels are several times what they were in the 17th century.
It's funny how deniers claim 98% of climatologists are "lying" yet we're supposed to believe self-professed "expert" critics on the dole of fossil fuel industries.
Climategate, Climategate, CRU DATA MANIPULATION, Climategate, Climategate, HIDING THE DECLINE, Climategate, Climategate, AL GORE BOUGHT A HOUSE BOAT LAST YEAR, Climategate, Climategate, Climategate, AL GORE WILL NOT OPENLY DEBATE ANYBODY, Climategate, Climategate, Climategate, CRU SCANDAL, Climategate, MWP DENIAL, Climategate, Climategate, POLAR BEARS CAN SWIM, Climategate, Climategate, SILENCING AND BULLY OF DISSENTING SCIENTISTS, Climategate,Climategate. How do you like them apples!
"Climategate" is a hoax perpetuated by the anti-science right wing and the fossil fuel industries which have a vested interest in avoiding cleaning up pollution.
(dot) realclimate (dot) org / index (dot) php / archives / 2009 / 11 / the - cru - hack/
The same people who believe anthropogenic climate change is a "myth" also believe the world is only 6,000-10,000 years old and that fossils and genetics proving evolutionary biology was planted by the Devil to test Christian faith.
NO Climategate is not a hoax the emails and the clearly show and state that the CRU have been manipulating the data, bully scientists who speak the truth and attempting to remove the Medieval Warm Period from the history
The Oil and energy companies are all for Carbon Taxes they don't care it will not affect them
And the use of the STUPID 'Cute Al Gore Anecdote's' will not work any more.
Climate change is real yeah, it has been changing since the start of time
Who said anything about Al Bore? He's made his own fallacies about global warming. Calm down and turn off the Fox News for a minute.
So far there has been no confirmation about anyone removing "medieval warm period" (which hasn't even been proven to have existed, 1400-1800 was a minor Ice Age). And if you believe this is a hoax please prove the ice core samples were incorrect.
All for carbon taxes? Most oil companies are against anything that costs them money.
Turn off fox news, shut up dumb ass I don't get my info from the lame stream media like you clearly do.
YOU prove the ice samples are correct it was you that first brought them up!
The carbon taxes will not cost the energy companies anything dumb ass energy companies always pass there costs on to the customers everyone knows that. You should be maybe move out of your mums house and find out.
I am sorry but when I went to school the MWP was real and we were taught that millions of years ago there was much warmer periods than we have experienced and life flourished.
I thought you were trying to say the MWP occurred at the same time as the Little Ice Age.
There were indeed warmer periods millions of years ago but the CO2 levels back then were all created by volcanoes. There hasn't been a significant enough rise in volcanism to account for the massive rises in CO2 and methane levels over the past 250 years. Not to mention most CO2 and methane is produced by factories, cars, plants and deforestation.
We haven't seen all of the email interactions, only segments of what the "leakers" (whatever you want to call them) want us to see. So how would you know?
"Medieval Warm Period denier!"
Ah, I see what you're talking about. It was a period between 800-1300 AD (before the Little Ice Age which started in 1400 AD). However, the temperatures were much lower than what they are now and CO2 and methane levels were not nearly as high as now.
There is over 60 meg of emails and data, your statement there makes no sense.
Your full of BS the Medieval Warm Period allowed grapes to be grown in England. You really need to stop quoting false manipulated CRU data. It is all coming out in the wash and people like you are starting to look really stupid
There is no telling how many emails there are in the CRU databse. The so-called "leakers" have only shown what they wanted to be seen. Parts of replies and parts of other emails leading up to it are missing.
Lol, the ice core samples don't come from the CRU, dumbass.
NO the burden of proof is on you, you replied to my comment. I didn't ask to speak to you.
The ice core samples are ok. It is the CRU that have been fudging the data. The CRU admitted the emails were stolen or leaked or hacked who cares they admitted themselves they were theirs.
Not at all. The link has already been provided and you are claiming their math and measurements are wrong. So it is on you to prove so. Just like if I claimed airplanes don't actually fly the burden of proof would be on me to prove my claim. You didn't start speaking to me but you did make the claim their science is wrong.
"The ice core samples are ok"
That's one of the main rocks upon which the anthropogenic climate change theory rests.
Actually heat rises as CO2 levels rise. It's the other way around from what you said.
Current CO2 levels are 100 ppm above what they were before the rise of the Industrial Age. CO2 and methane levels are also rising at an increasing rate, correlating with more production of GHG in more countries (especially since China has gotten in on the game). The vast majority of CO2 is human-produced.
Why does he keep the engine running in his limo?!?!?!
Why does he live in a mansion?!?!?!?
Why did Al Gore have to remove the Co2 to Heat graph from his talk. Because the real ice core samples show that C02 levels follow heat not the other way round.
he has to swindel more money from the uk to get noticed as an mp lol
snibher 6 months ago
$20 says Nick Griffin will try to blame climate change on immigrants...
videogamenostalgia 1 year ago
The UK has BNP: N Griffin
NL has PVV Geert Wilders
... and it is all te same extreme right wing shit. Why do people think these guy's will solve their problems...
remcovanek2 1 year ago
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Watch!
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Wylff 1 year ago
To the sheeple !! out there, this is Propaganda at it's best...He's a puppet to the Eternal jew Lord Rothschild aka bank of England, who's family (rothschilds/BOE) founded Hitler !!..I have still not received an answer to my question : Why are the BNP in bed with the semite jews ( BNP have PAYED jewish members also A BNP jewish Councillor !?).Ps this information is a matter of record !....do a quick search on the NEW WORLD ORDER and see how deep this rabbi-t hole goes....
freedombiteback 2 years ago
A other matter concerning the Australian electronic media.
ClimateGate, has had no recognition here in Australia, DELIBRATELY!
That is how deep these eco-freak environmentalists have infiltrated the Australian Media!
But, a plan is forming and the environmentalists in the media better prepare, they better get use to being on the other side of the door.
MRMILO57 2 years ago
i bet that fat fool couldn't resist linking the natural enviorment with muslims, immigrants and more muslims
omgodsword 2 years ago
He stood up against the Nazi world order throw yourself in the road you facist NWO prick you have the blood of millions on your hands shame on you
properwired 2 years ago
BNP
bangonya 2 years ago
Scientists have no motivation to falsify results. Scientists are just normal people doing what they do well. The vast majority of scientists have no political connections and nothing to gain from making stuff up. Every single RESPECTABLE and well established scientific organisation in the world agrees that man is having a great negative effect in terms of contribution to global warming. The facts are there.
It is the naive corrupt political and economical powers that are trying to play it down.
oioisexymlaoy 2 years ago
Listen you NWO scumbag the games up and all over the world people are rising up against your eugenics programmes and Hitler style global goverment. Socialism always leads to the same results your poster boys Hitler and stalin killed million never again you pond scum
properwired 2 years ago
I don't think the term Eugenics has any relevance here. I also suggest you learn respect and tolerance of different ideas. I support the "green movement" because I have compassion for people and want to make a positive impact on this world. The worst you could call such an opinion is misguided. Scum pond and scumbag are completely unnecessary.
oioisexymlaoy 2 years ago
So do you think that a policy that views Africans as pollution and starves them to death is anything other than evil. if so it is about time you took a look at the people behind your movement look into the Rothschilds you will find they have a long history of evil criminal activities. If you want to as you say have a posative impact then stand against the New World Order profit should never come before people. You have been decieved t we all get fooled so research and change sides
properwired 2 years ago
N Dubbya O tards always tend to speak in absolutes.. oioi.
The only kind of people that speak in Absolutes are Tyrants afraid of hearing both sides of the story.
2DRonaldo 2 years ago
our hero
deanotattoo 2 years ago
Heres comes NWO.
TODDSTR001 2 years ago 2
What's really sad is that no one even speaks of the hacked emails from the British University, letting on to show that man-made Global Warming is a Hoax after all. It's very clear that the purpose of Copenhagen is NOT to provide solutions to global warming, but it is indeed there to end freedom and demoralize the spirit of the human being.
/watch?v=PMe5dOgbu40&fmt=18
Even if Global Warming was real, the things that will be done as a result of Copenhagen won't be worth anything.
RaptillaMajor 2 years ago
Need to discredit something - get Nick Griffin to back it.
Nick - shut the fuck up wont you.
MAN MADE CLIMATE CHANGE IS A HOAX.
1974mjc 2 years ago
Global warming = carbon taxes 20-40%Tax increase get ready to pay ! =population control = swine flu+shot = Baxter = Rothchilds =Global warming = LIes ,Greed ,control = NWO .All the same people are involved ! what a wicked web they weave ,and they are banking on the fact that most people are too stupid to figure it out ! That is their trump card .
kellyelainewright61 2 years ago
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I agree with Nick Griffin that the far-left loons have reached an Orwellian consensus that is not based not on scientific agreement, but on bullying, censorship and fraudulent statistics.
Climate change is being used to impose an anti-human utopia as deadly as anything conceived by Stalin or Communist China. It's definitely the successor to communism for the intellectual left.
phibes2 2 years ago
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dont you just love when opposing views are not allowed
linkin622 2 years ago
even worse is when 5 silly cunts thumbs down your comment because they dont understand sarcasm.
slantyrock 2 years ago
The Elite call you dumb slaves, they laugh at you while they program you with their institutions and their media empires and propaganda machines. And you laugh at the people who warn you and expose the New World Order.
"A really efficient totalitarian state would be one in which the all-powerful executive of political bosses and their army of managers control a population of slaves who do not have to be coerced, because they love their servitude."
Aldous Huxley, Brave New World
mmtot 2 years ago
8) It is such unusual weather that makes people think that it is happening what they repeatedly call "climate change". 9) People around the world would, this way, vote in favour of more action on their provoked "climate change". 10) Please stop SPRAYING THE SKIES with those particulates for one year and you will see the true "climate change". 11) Only then we can adapt to it. 12) So, there is not only ONE climate change, there is TWO climate changes: one natural, the other artificial.
almanulinux 2 years ago
5) Since the effect of warming is strong, some "crazy scientists" decide (without consulting the population) to oppose such effect producing lots of artificial clouds over the lands and now over the ocean. 6) They expect that light from sun will be reflected back to the space this way, and also they can make some other "secret" experiments. 7) This constant and insistent activity is provoking lots of unusual storms and unusual weather (winter is only slightly different from summer now).
almanulinux 2 years ago
I think like this: 1) I FEEL in the skin the sunlight much stronger than before in last years, in summer and even in winter. 2) This means the planet will naturally tend to warm. 3) I don't know why the sunlight is stronger, but it can be either because the sun is in a stronger period of activity or our atmosphere is protecting us less. 4) I want politicians to answer to tell me which is the truth.
almanulinux 2 years ago
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I suppose carbon caused the ice age also. Its all about solar cycles. If you think the weather around the world is bad now just imagine living in one of the extreme hot or cold cycles that man has never even seen nor recorded. Do I think that we need to find alternate sources of energy? Yes. Do I think that money or taxes will solve the energy crisis in the world? Not in the hands of the power elite.
romanwarfist9182 2 years ago
Incorrect:
(dot) skepticalscience (dot) com / climate - change - little - ice - age - medieval - warm - period (dot) htm
A86 2 years ago 3
Australia votes DOWN Carbon Tax due to Climate Change!!
The Uprising has begun!
elfornse 2 years ago
So what if Nick Griffin's attending? Hitler used to attend stuff too.
Fact is, whether you believe in Global Warming, or you are with the god botherers and the nazis, it still makes sense to not pollute, to use fewer resources; to recycle, and to find alternatives.
chavrecycler 2 years ago
I don't want Nick Griffin to represent the climate change fraud as his association with Fascism discredits the argument against man made climate change and CO2 as a global warming gas. But this is what the elites want isn't it.
lemdixon01 2 years ago
Global Warming has been in decline since 1998!!!
myangels7 2 years ago
False:
(dot) skepticalscience (dot) com / global - cooling (dot) htm
A86 2 years ago 2
Al Gore canceled his trip to speak at Copenhagen! FRAUD!
myangels7 2 years ago
Who ate all the pies?
bhvfnhb 2 years ago
The CRU admit in there emails that they have been hiding the decline.
Anybody that thumbs me down is a Pro NWO order scumbag + plus afraid of the truth
therhythmicmenace 2 years ago
The only data that was omitted was unreliable tree ring data.
Think for yourself and stop spreading misinformation.
A86 2 years ago 2
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What part of 'Hiding the decline' does the AGW alarmists not get?
therhythmicmenace 2 years ago
There's been no decline to be hid:
(dot) skepticalscience (dot) com / global - cooling (dot) htm
A86 2 years ago 3
google: 911missinglinks
queerbuzz 2 years ago
I strongly suspect the Green Partys "Caroline Lucas" may end up eating her words. Nick Griffin is on a fucking mission with this issue...
BNP>>>>>>
DeadOriginal 2 years ago
This is why David Bellamy has been banned from the BBC, fucking Zionist scumbags...Carbon Tax..Just another fucking Window Tax...
End all this manmade GW bollocks..
Vote BNP
DeadOriginal 2 years ago
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when did global warming start ?
what temperature should the earth be ?
banzaiian 2 years ago
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The earth is supposed to be a couple of degrees cooler than it currently is. For a planet like the earth warming it up or cooling it by a few degrees makes a tremendous difference. During the last Ice Age the global temperature was only like 4 degrees cooler than it is now. If it raises another degree and a half from where it is now the caps could melt and put tens of coastal cities underwater.
A86 2 years ago
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so what temperature ?
when did the last ice age stop ?
banzaiian 2 years ago
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Last Ice Age ended 12,000-10,000 years ago if I'm not mistaken. There was a minor Ice Age from 1400-1800 AD. The world temperature dropped like a degree or so.
A86 2 years ago
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so the earth is comming out of an ice age
banzaiian 2 years ago
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Somewhat. A minor one. Still, temperatures are far above what they were at any other point in human history. CO2 and methane levels are also far above what they were at any point tens of millions of years prior. The last time it was elevated was because of increased volcanism. There hasn't been a significant increase in volcanism in millions of years.
A86 2 years ago
how can anybody really say what the temperature of the earth should be, even though you cant.
so you play down the minor ice age ok so when did global warming start ?
banzaiian 2 years ago
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Because we've been measuring for quite a while and we can deduce what the temperatures are based on ice core samples and rock records.
The minor Ice Age has little to do with global warming.
"when did global warming start?"
The real beginning would be the late 19th century. It's funny you're making such bold claims when it's obvious you don't know much about climate science.
A86 2 years ago
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i have not made any bold claims.
you tell me the earth is too hot but you dont know what the temperature of the earth should be.
you have lots of information that but cant answer a simple question.
banzaiian 2 years ago
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The earth's temperature doesn't really NEED to be a certain temperature for it's own sake. But to sustain humans and the current lifeforms on the planet it needs to stay within the range it has been from 6000 BC to 1600 CE.
A86 2 years ago
planets evolve
there was no man made co2 before the ice age or when it started to melt.
if the planet didnt evolve you wouldnt be here.
banzaiian 2 years ago
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"plants evolve"
Indeed but 75% of CO2 today is manmade. That's what you're ignoring. This global warming today is largely not natural. Unlike periods of the past.
A86 2 years ago
i found some stats aswell
Water vapor constitutes Earth's most significant greenhouse gas, accounting for about 95% of Earth's greenhouse effect (4). Interestingly, many "facts and figures' regarding global warming completely ignore the powerful effects of water vapor in the greenhouse system, carelessly (perhaps, deliberately) overstating human impacts as much as 20-fold.
Water vapor is 99.999% of natural origin.
banzaiian 2 years ago
What link is this from?
A86 2 years ago
Ah, I looked it up. I think you're referring to the fact that water vapor doubles the effect of CO2 as a GHG. It's called "positive feedback". But it doesn't contribute to 95% of the greenhouse effect:
(dot) skepticalscience (dot) com / water - vapor - greenhouse - gas (dot) htm
A86 2 years ago
well there are lies, dam lies, and statistics,
those figures are from the U.S. Department of Energy.
banzaiian 2 years ago
And you're using numbers from the same sources you're now condemning.
Make up your mind. Are these sources reliable or unreliable? You quote them when you think they agree with you and then claim they're lies when they don't agree with you.
Do you have evidence that tree ring data is reliable?
A86 2 years ago
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im just pointing out that the
u.s department of energy has different stats on co2 to what you are claiming.
you claimed 75% as if it was fact.
i obviously wouldnt slag off the stats that favour my argument.
we can all pull numbers out of our arses that was kind of my point.
banzaiian 2 years ago
The DOE doesn't say anything different about CO2 from what I've seen.
A86 2 years ago 2
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well thats what i read and it sounds good to me.
i think mans contribution to global warming is less than what you think.
you see bs that you like the sound of it so you buy it. same here the water vapor rules sounds good to me. the planets just evolving and theres nothing that can be done to stop it
banzaiian 2 years ago
It might be but it's at least 50% of the contribution. It's estimated natural causes make up no more than 31% of current climate change.
The climate is indeed changing naturally to a degree but man is making the situation much worse than it would naturally be. CO2 and water vapor exacerbate the greenhouse effect exponentially. If man would get pollution (and deforestation, another part of the equation many don't think about) under the control we could mitigate global warming to a degree.
A86 2 years ago 2
what massive changes has the earth encountered since global warming began caused by man 1800s onwards ?
compare it to the massive changes pre man made global warming
banzaiian 2 years ago
upload (dot) wikimedia (dot) org / wikipedia / commons/c/ c1 / 2000 _ Year _ Temperature _ Comparison (dot) png
The CO2 levels are even worse. They're far about what they were in 1600 CE. They haven't been this high in millions of years. Last time they were that high was because there was several times more volcanic activity than there currently is.
A86 2 years ago
dude you should invent a filter to shove up a cows ass to filter farts
linkin622 2 years ago
Cow farts are not the main source of world methane, though they are a significant contributor. Do you know why? Industrial animal husbandry for fast food restaurants.
A86 2 years ago
Not to mention more of the ice caps have melted than at any point in millions of years, lung cancer rate from carbon dioxide has gone way up, Australia is on fire, Britain is drowning in rain, there are massive dust storms due to drying out of huge masses of land, we just had the hottest decade in human history (notice the mild summers in many parts of the US for the past decade?), etc.
You can see global warming happening by just going outside.
A86 2 years ago
Lung Cancer from carbon dioxide ? HAHAHA. Here is a quote for you. Straight from the mouths of the elites we are fighting who want to tax the gas you exhale. And are admittedly setting up a global government right now!
" Diet, injections, and injunctions will combine, from a very early age, to produce the sort of character and the sort of beliefs that the authoritarians consider desirable, and any serious criticism of the powers that be will become psychologically impossible." Bertrand Russell.
mmtot 2 years ago
Since when is Bertrand Russell a climatologist or scientist? And elevated CO2 levels do indeed cause cancer:
chestjournal (dot) chestpubs (dot) org / content / 112 / 3 / 779 (dot) full (dot) pdf [PDF File]
A86 2 years ago
"Gradually, by selective breeding, the congenital differences between rulers and ruled will increase until they become almost different species. A revolt of the plebs would become as unthinkable as an organized insurrection of sheep against the practice of eating mutton." Bertrand Russell. There you go they can say it right out in the open.
mmtot 2 years ago
David Bellamy has the answers to this but he's been banned from TV in the UK and US.
DeadOriginal 2 years ago
Channel 4 reported that a leaked report of what will be on the agenda at copenhagen will have nothing to do with climate change, it's just a smokescreen and we all now know of the climate swindle and of what WILL be on the agenda.
withnielandi 2 years ago
global warming is a scam, say no to the nwo.
vote bnp
aconstantfalling 2 years ago
Hey, I think you are right, AF
Vote BNP
DeadOriginal 2 years ago
never
cuttheraceistheads 2 years ago 2
He won`t get the chance to Speak, Because he has`nt fiddled his Expenses yet, and He keeps telling the TRUTH, Fascist Labour Pigs
2PALACE2 2 years ago 6
No.
A86 2 years ago
Oh God No. - At this time we need a credible
voice rather than Daffy Duck !!
jazznick1 2 years ago
good luck; at least you have guts and stick up for your beliefs.
tramtrackharry 2 years ago
Nick Griffin is a racist fascist who doesn't care about anything else. He's a joker of an MP, completely clueless. He also said he's let the banks collapse, complete lunacy. No credibility.
impressionsbysimon 2 years ago 3
like ur mum
Andy0against0WW3 2 years ago
@impressionsbysimon Griffin is a real new leader for UK. And you are a communist pig.
ashtavideo 1 year ago
If these members dont get to infuence decisions at all then why are the taxpayers sending them there in the first place?
ant10011001 2 years ago 2
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@A86 the IPCC, UN, CRU, Al GORE Can nolonger be trusted end of story, try expanding your field of research before its to late for your self
I have said enough you can dominate this messge board no one watches ITN anymore anymore the lame stream media lies and they are the worst.
therhythmicmenace 2 years ago
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@A86
I don't care about your BS
in the documentary 'The Great Global Warming Swindle' (not hoax) the IPCC scientists state the that Co2 levels follow heat not the other way round
The leaked/hacked/release Climategate email s and data clearly show - fraud, data, manipulation, hiding the decline. Attempting to subvert the peer review if any scientists does not go along with the new dogma.
therhythmicmenace 2 years ago
Lol, and what are the sources used by this documentary? What's your proof they are reliable? Clearly they're wrong because that's definitely not what the IPCC says. Nor is the IPCC the main source on heat trends.
You keep dogmatically citing this documentary like it's a Bible.
A86 2 years ago 3
From what I'm reading so far they misrepresented several scientists in the documentary and made many erroneous claims:
en (dot) wikipedia (dot) org / wiki / The _ Great _ Global _ Warming _ Swindle # Reception _ and _ criticism
(dot) durangobill (dot) com / Swindle _ Swindle (dot) html
A86 2 years ago 2
@A86
No in "the great global warming hoax' the IPCC state that the ice core samples show that the C02 levels rise after heat rises.
therhythmicmenace 2 years ago
Quote?
A86 2 years ago
I checked it out. The IPCC argues heat rises due it being trapped by increasing CO2 levels:
(dot) ucsusa (dot) org / global _ warming / science _ and _ impacts / science / CO2 - and - global - warming - faq (dot) html
A86 2 years ago 2
The IPCC rely on the CRU for there data now they cannot be trusted.
therhythmicmenace 2 years ago
Ice core samples have shown natural CO2 levels have not changed in 650,000 years. The 2000s was the hottest decade in recorded history and temperature trends have steadily risen since the 18th century (and it rises faster as industrialization grows). CO2 and methane levels are several times what they were in the 17th century.
It's funny how deniers claim 98% of climatologists are "lying" yet we're supposed to believe self-professed "expert" critics on the dole of fossil fuel industries.
A86 2 years ago 2
BNP environmental policy=global warming is a hoax.
nsahahaha 2 years ago
How much is the tax payer paying for this little trip?
nsahahaha 2 years ago 5
manbearpig
Dagney77 2 years ago
Climategate, Climategate, CRU DATA MANIPULATION, Climategate, Climategate, HIDING THE DECLINE, Climategate, Climategate, AL GORE BOUGHT A HOUSE BOAT LAST YEAR, Climategate, Climategate, Climategate, AL GORE WILL NOT OPENLY DEBATE ANYBODY, Climategate, Climategate, Climategate, CRU SCANDAL, Climategate, MWP DENIAL, Climategate, Climategate, POLAR BEARS CAN SWIM, Climategate, Climategate, SILENCING AND BULLY OF DISSENTING SCIENTISTS, Climategate,Climategate. How do you like them apples!
therhythmicmenace 2 years ago
"Climategate" is a hoax perpetuated by the anti-science right wing and the fossil fuel industries which have a vested interest in avoiding cleaning up pollution.
(dot) realclimate (dot) org / index (dot) php / archives / 2009 / 11 / the - cru - hack/
The same people who believe anthropogenic climate change is a "myth" also believe the world is only 6,000-10,000 years old and that fossils and genetics proving evolutionary biology was planted by the Devil to test Christian faith.
A86 2 years ago 2
NO Climategate is not a hoax the emails and the clearly show and state that the CRU have been manipulating the data, bully scientists who speak the truth and attempting to remove the Medieval Warm Period from the history
The Oil and energy companies are all for Carbon Taxes they don't care it will not affect them
And the use of the STUPID 'Cute Al Gore Anecdote's' will not work any more.
Climate change is real yeah, it has been changing since the start of time
therhythmicmenace 2 years ago
Typo
'The emails and the data'
therhythmicmenace 2 years ago
Who said anything about Al Bore? He's made his own fallacies about global warming. Calm down and turn off the Fox News for a minute.
So far there has been no confirmation about anyone removing "medieval warm period" (which hasn't even been proven to have existed, 1400-1800 was a minor Ice Age). And if you believe this is a hoax please prove the ice core samples were incorrect.
All for carbon taxes? Most oil companies are against anything that costs them money.
A86 2 years ago
Turn off fox news, shut up dumb ass I don't get my info from the lame stream media like you clearly do.
YOU prove the ice samples are correct it was you that first brought them up!
The carbon taxes will not cost the energy companies anything dumb ass energy companies always pass there costs on to the customers everyone knows that. You should be maybe move out of your mums house and find out.
therhythmicmenace 2 years ago
Apparently you do since the mainstream media is the one pushing this "global warming hoax leak" story.
"YOU prove the ice samples are correct"
Dumbass:
dx (dot) doi (dot) org / 10 (dot) 1038 % 2F315045a0 [it's a PDF file]
Look at the temperature graph over the ages:
upload (dot) wikimedia (dot) org / wikipedia / commons/c/ c1 / 2000 _ Year _ Temperature _ Comparison (dot) png
A86 2 years ago 2
I am sorry but when I went to school the MWP was real and we were taught that millions of years ago there was much warmer periods than we have experienced and life flourished.
therhythmicmenace 2 years ago
I thought you were trying to say the MWP occurred at the same time as the Little Ice Age.
There were indeed warmer periods millions of years ago but the CO2 levels back then were all created by volcanoes. There hasn't been a significant enough rise in volcanism to account for the massive rises in CO2 and methane levels over the past 250 years. Not to mention most CO2 and methane is produced by factories, cars, plants and deforestation.
A86 2 years ago
The CRU admit the emails and data are theirs so you are full of BS.
Climategate did happen and it is real, just as real as the Medieval Warm Period.
P.S. if you like the Matrix movies, take the red pill and wake up from your commie college brain washing.
therhythmicmenace 2 years ago
If you read the article you would know your claim is BS
" We are aware that information from a server used for research information in one area of the university has been made available on public websites..
Because of the volume of this information we cannot currently confirm that all of this material is genuine....
We are undertaking a thorough internal investigation and we have involved the police in this enquiry.
So far all that is out are cherry-picked emails with little to no context.
A86 2 years ago 2
What article are you talking about??
No there is no cherry picking there is plenty evidence of wrong doing you silly Medieval Warm Period denier!!
NO they did admit the emails and data is theres and they should all be thrown in jail
Bunch of fraudsters and the emails and data clearly show it!
therhythmicmenace 2 years ago
"there is no cherry picking"
We haven't seen all of the email interactions, only segments of what the "leakers" (whatever you want to call them) want us to see. So how would you know?
"Medieval Warm Period denier!"
Ah, I see what you're talking about. It was a period between 800-1300 AD (before the Little Ice Age which started in 1400 AD). However, the temperatures were much lower than what they are now and CO2 and methane levels were not nearly as high as now.
A86 2 years ago 2
There is over 60 meg of emails and data, your statement there makes no sense.
Your full of BS the Medieval Warm Period allowed grapes to be grown in England. You really need to stop quoting false manipulated CRU data. It is all coming out in the wash and people like you are starting to look really stupid
therhythmicmenace 2 years ago
"over 60 megs of emails"
There is no telling how many emails there are in the CRU databse. The so-called "leakers" have only shown what they wanted to be seen. Parts of replies and parts of other emails leading up to it are missing.
Lol, the ice core samples don't come from the CRU, dumbass.
A86 2 years ago 2
Another denial dumb ass comment
The CRU are the UNs main data analysts
And the leakers have shown us enough, enough evidence to hang the bastards!
therhythmicmenace 2 years ago
"denial dumb ass comment"
This from the guy who claimed the ice core samples are from the CRU. Lol.
1) Prove every single relevant CRU email was leaked.
2) Prove the ice sample cores are inaccurate. You're the one implying they are so the burden of proof is on you.
A86 2 years ago
NO the burden of proof is on you, you replied to my comment. I didn't ask to speak to you.
The ice core samples are ok. It is the CRU that have been fudging the data. The CRU admitted the emails were stolen or leaked or hacked who cares they admitted themselves they were theirs.
I
therhythmicmenace 2 years ago
Not at all. The link has already been provided and you are claiming their math and measurements are wrong. So it is on you to prove so. Just like if I claimed airplanes don't actually fly the burden of proof would be on me to prove my claim. You didn't start speaking to me but you did make the claim their science is wrong.
"The ice core samples are ok"
That's one of the main rocks upon which the anthropogenic climate change theory rests.
A86 2 years ago
'The Great Global Warming Hoax' shows the IPCC telling us that the ice core samples show that C02 levels rise after the heat rises
We live on a planet in a solar system, you are aware of that are you . you do know what the big yellow thing in the sky is do you.
therhythmicmenace 2 years ago
Actually heat rises as CO2 levels rise. It's the other way around from what you said.
Current CO2 levels are 100 ppm above what they were before the rise of the Industrial Age. CO2 and methane levels are also rising at an increasing rate, correlating with more production of GHG in more countries (especially since China has gotten in on the game). The vast majority of CO2 is human-produced.
A86 2 years ago
Why did Al Gore buy a house boat last year?!?!?!
Why does he keep the engine running in his limo?!?!?!
Why does he live in a mansion?!?!?!?
Why did Al Gore have to remove the Co2 to Heat graph from his talk. Because the real ice core samples show that C02 levels follow heat not the other way round.
therhythmicmenace 2 years ago
ITN DON"T YOU DARE, try to lump in AGW skeptics with the BNP!!!
P.S.
When are you going to cover climategate??
therhythmicmenace 2 years ago
4 thumbs down, come on folks grow a back bone and reply!
therhythmicmenace 2 years ago
The "somewhat" dodgy science LOL
ITS THE BIGGEST SCAM THAT HAS BEEN PURPORTRATED ON THE PLANET IN ITS ENTIRE HISTORY!!!
1madaboutguitar 2 years ago
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Good luck to him!
Vote BNP!
mendal05 2 years ago
I guess he needs good luck, as we all know what a weak leader Adolf Griffin is lol
TheNaziWatch 2 years ago 4