Japanese History of Edo period to Meiji Restoration(3/6)

[Chemowski]

@ccheng21 pain is temporary. pride is forever!

[Chemowski]

@ccheng21 in shintoism you become a God when you die. Why live in shame When you can Dave your honor and become a god?

[deathscythekim729]

im turning japanese

[Setsuna2444]

Ieyasu apearance in Samurai Warriors 2 was a Small Fat Man -_-

[UnitedKorean]

Even today, many Japanese and Koreans and other Asians can still read Chinese characters so we can communicate by writing. So I can read both Chinese and Japanese although I am Korean.

[UnitedKorean]

It only takes a few years to learn another language if you live with them you know especially if you try hard. That's how they communicate.

[3636jae]

@UnitedKorean

It only takes a few weeks to learn another language.

I learned Japanese in only 6 weeks, but with no one to talk to.

The only downside to learning it so fast is that you can forget it fast as well.

Kind of like craming for an exam instead of taking time to really study.

I typed in history of Japan, Not history of samurai... What gives?

[Khronnus]

@3636jae There is no way. Not one way that you learned Japanese in 6 week. That's is an absolute lie.

[3636jae]

@Khronnus

Yeah, the book is called Japanese for busy people, it's a blue, medium

sized book... I love it.

[funnystarchild]

Man. Their lifes were so epic. I dont feel so epic with my hamburger and TV.......:/

[Legomakerx]

commiting suicide's the worst thing u can do

[simplemindize]

WoWFREAK1336 are you sure about taking you a month to perfect japanese 3 writing system? you're kidding aren'T you ? unless you're chinese that could write kanji ,you can easily learn the hiragana and katakana.

I'm 19 when i came here (japan) and living here for 22 years, i'm teaching japanese to non japanese children,and still cannot perfect kanji .Either typical japanese can not write a perfect kanji.

my english sucks;;

[ccheng21]

how a culture can develop a ritual for suicide is beyond me....Shame is never permanent and if you're alive you can redeem yourself, if dead you can never do so.

[Myobokuuzan]

@ccheng21 that's what makes the world so different. Pagans had suicide rituals, along with the Mayans. Sacrifices were often made to the gods, but I don't think Christians had to make sacrifices... so it was different. Pagans were also polytheistic while Christians were only monotheistic.

[bobbyglamorous]

there's a swashtika in that fight scene which shows it was an asian symbol however it is alson found in africa as an african symbol and south america as a native symbol.

[ihateyoujerkoff]

Meiji was about closing japan off to the rest of the world, about not developing into a multicultural society, about holding their customs, traditions and habits above everything else. it was about ensuring japanese would think of themselves as sent from heaven and all other peoples were devils and gimmicks. seriously, nothing has changed !

[Khronnus]

@ihateyoujerkoff That's so wrong I can't even begin to say. And that opinion is from someone studying Japanese as my degree.

[Mangafairy]

@Khronnus @ihateyoujerkoff, I think ihateyoujerkoff got the Tokugawa and Mejii mixed up. For sure Japan tried to isolate itself during Tokugawa times hence Dejima etc etc. But of course Perry came in 1853 (during Meiji era) and forced them to open trade.

[ikkoikki]

Tokugawa Ieyasu was a great leader but could so easily have been swallowed up like so many of his contemporaries like the Imagawa, Takeda and Go-Hojo.

[chinaownseverything]

china is better than japan

[Rubinsen]

@chinaownseverything

in poverty?

[nydaimyo]

Ute!=Fire!

[Zeemis]

I feel more Japanese now.

[eidius1989]

lol?

[VictoriaKrueger1428]

I'm still wondering how did the Europeans and the Japanese communicate if they spoke different languages and have completely different writing?

[BrianPsychicBabystar]

It took time. They had to learn from one another. Point to things, listen to words for a while... when someone lives in a place long enough, they will pick up the language if they are patient and focused.

[ytjulius1]

When the Portuguese met the Lord of Tanegashima, whey had a Chinese translator. So they communicated in written Chines (a lingua francae in East Asia at that time). For Xavier case, he travelled with a Japanese pupil named Anjiro who once escaped from Japan for killing a person. The Jesuits later learned Japanese language. During sakoku, official Dutch-Japanese translators existed. When Perry came to Japan, an officer came to the battleship and said "I can speak English a little" in Dutch.

[WoWFREAK1336]

While some people think that Japanese is hard to learn, but they have 3 writing systems one of which is extremely easy to learn(took me about a month to perfect it). And excluding the foreign words all words can be written in this simple script.

[Bookstop1337]

@WoWFREAK1336

Did you teach yourself? If not what resources did you use?

[ikkoikki]

@WoWFREAK1336 Hiragana and Katakana are simple to learn, but life in Japan can be difficult unless one masters Kanji too (newspapers and books, menus, etc) and I'm still learning new kanji everyday after years of study.

[goodgirlkay]

@WoWFREAK1336 which is the easiest? I would like to learn.

[WoWFREAK1336]

@goodgirlkay well, always start with hiragana, it's script that Japanese words are written in. It is however only phonetic, making means often hard to derive. Katakana should be next, this is a script with all of the same sound(and some more) of hiragana. Katakana is used for foreign words, sound words(like BOOM), and a sort of "CAPS LOCK" if you will for manga and chat channels. Kanji are the complex letters that have only one meaning, these can have many strokes, the biggest I know is 12.

[eidius1989]

well i guess the missionaries were used as translators since they just stayed there

[ShaneyElderberry]

@VictoriaKrueger1428

They've done exactly that through anthropology study with many peoples of very different cultures and language for a very long time. And continue to do so, for example, the Pirahã people of the Brazilian Amazon. They are known to have the most simplistic language we know of to date. They don't use numbers in the way we do, and can whistle their entire language. With missionaries, people able to translate, and learn the language by simply living with them for years.

[ihateyoujerkoff]

@VictoriaKrueger1428 they made babies together, and those kids were fluent in 2 languages.

[LegibleScribbles]

@VictoriaKrueger1428

Hi, according to part two of this series some missionaries became fluent in japanese and became known as interpreters.

Hope this helps :)

[ironmantis24]

@VictoriaKrueger1428

the same way on how a baby learns language, by time and experience.

[Insomnium2188]

@VictoriaKrueger1428 the same reason why the myth of the tower of Babylon is a load of crap 

[Schutzstaffel23]

@VictoriaKrueger1428 trial and error and a lot of pointing lol

[MiracleKD18]

@VictoriaKrueger1428

The Portuguese missionaries already knew Chinese.

Chinese was the "lingua franca" of East Asia, and most of the upper class knew that language.

[ataira2012]

@VictoriaKrueger1428 Europeans were forced to learn Japanese and Japanese English.

[warmsteel]

@VictoriaKrueger1428 the Europeans learned Japanese. ^^

[viperfishsasori]

@VictoriaKrueger1428

Very sloowwwwly with a lot of pantomime and pointing,I wager. LOL.

[2beingsomebody]

does this whole 'history of edo period' deal with the ways of the samurai. that doesnt even refer to them in the edo period (well nt this far into hte documentary yet) when they become an essentially administrative class.

[Laranzava]

Heart in their belly, They were sophisticated allright.

[jonnyorange88]

Cherry Blossem= Sameria?

[Rev4587]

apparently the cherry Blossom = The Samurai

[nehciny]

my goodness