i wonder why caylee just didnt sign her kid over to the state, instead of going this route. ok, sure, her parents would be mad at her, but this really was not a viable alternative. did she think that she could get away w/ knocking out the kid so she could party & do her own thing, then one day accidentally give her too much to the pt of death? either which way, if she didnt want to keep a job to pay a babysitter, she could have sold some things to pay for on instead of going this crazy direction
Hmm doesn't look like she was paying a babysitter. Had her mom who probably didn't appreciate Casey using her as a built-in babysitter, even though she may have adored Caylee.
Previously years back guess she had Jesse and family, and maybe a girlfriend or two, but that ended. Was probably telling friends Caylee was w/ "the nanny" just to fake some image when really Caylee was with Cindy. Then other times tell Cindy that Caylee was w/ nanny when really she Casey had her. All for show.
i meant, if casey was using chloroform to 'knock out' caylee while casey went partying, then why not just hire a babysitter thru selling some stuff - instead of 'knocking out' caylee? cuz look at what ultimately happened.
I don't know. If she used chlorofom the day of Caylee's death it would seem that it would be to kill her because what were her big plans, renting a Blockbuster video with Tony, or was that some plan that just kind of came together. The other times it appears either Cindy had her, or Casey had her. Don't know if putting her in the trunk and chloroforming her on a regular basis were something she did because Cindy may have had her times she was partying even though she claimed she had a sitter.
@randi: what i dont get is that did her family believe there actually was a babysitter b4 caylee died? or did they only hear about her after caylee died? if it was b4 death, then that might meant casey was doing something w/ caylee whilst telling her family that caylee was w/ the babysitter. that means caylee might've been knocked out during those times, since as we all know now there was no babysitter. otherwise, the chlorofoam was used only in the last few days (at least) of caylee's life. idk
The weird thing is apparently she did speak of Zenaida, Jeffrey, and Zachary around the time Caylee was born based on Cindy and Richard Grund. So what was that 2005. But as far as when Caylee wasn't with Cindy she'd bring Caylee over to for example Richardo's, and probably did tell Cindy she was going to work and Caylee was going to the nanny's.
@randi: it gets to the point where i think just more than casey is lying about this non-existant nanny. maybe her family is keeping up that lie in order to try to give an 'out' for casey to use as her defense 'blame it on somebody else.' if this is so, then that whole family is a bunch of sociopaths. cant one of them, besides cindy's brother, just say 'you know what? enough is enough. we cant keep this up or else casey is going to spiral further into her delusions & see how that turned out?'
Yeah it's like Cindy knew Casey was lying about having a job, having a nanny, even being pregnant for goodness sakes the WHOLE entire time but wanted to hear lies. I definitely think she "piece-mealed" like one reporter said, those 911 calls when she finally did call, given that she had a "missing" Caylee based on her own email, and knew enough to say what did you do, and there's something wrong I found my daughter's car today and it smells like there's been a dead body in the damn car.
I know I wonder the same. Hearing Zanny/Zany/or "the nanny" is one thing but hearing the full on name of Zenaida, and then Jeffrey Michael Hopkins and his son Zachary is that what she said? For Cindy to say it OK you can't rely on her because she obviously has her own agenda, but did Richard Grund really hear that story when Caylee was a baby (in 2005?) or did he just inject that info after the news broke. Cindy always seemed really weird in the fantasy she wanted to believe even back then.
These news people aren't making any sense saying the new release doesn't hurt the defense, and they can still say somebody else did something. CASEY'S CAR had the same level of decomposition as the remains. The same STAGES of the insects life cycle with the body, car, bag, hair, etc. The same car that CASEY had posession of at that time. It's like they seem to think they would know more than forensic experts. Do they not understand these are scientists who gather and examine this evidence?
I"m just curious if any of you can answer this. I'm almost 50 but back in 1975, in science class, we disected frogs. they came to us alive in a jar and we put a cotton ball in there and i think that cotton ball was chloroform if i remember right.
lol, yea i remember our frogs were alive, but that teacher passed out a cotton ball with chloroform on it, and she told us not breathe it, just put it on the frog and screw the lid on tight.
No this news guy doesn't make any sense talking about computer searches when these other reports are showing that Casey had the car at the time the decomposition shows evidence in the trunk.
Why if she planned the murder did she not plan the disposal of the body? Have never heard of a murder case where the victim is driven around in a car for three days....Obviously she did it and planned it out but she was incredibly STUPID if she wanted to get away with it.
The chloroform searches wer done 3 months before Caylee died She also visited missing children sites indicating she had long thought about Caylee being out of her life I personally think she was jealous of her own child. In her twisted mind Caylee had replaced her in the affections of her parents. To do what she did takes HATE, though how you can hate a baby is beyond any normal thought process. She's a very disturbed young woman. But ultimately she knew right from wrong and may with her life.
Yeah and I know it's horrific but this news report here just says chloroform could have bleach or acetone (like what nail polish remover?) that is HORRIBLE she gave Caylee that poison?
whoops incompatible with life, that alone would of killed Caylee, and with the chloroform in her system, she could not of tore the tape off her face to breathe.
The worst defense team I ever heard of. They are banking on people believing because they are sticking to their story, it must be true. People aren't going to buy that bullshit! Casey was last seen with Caylee on the 16th of June 08. NOONE else ANYWHERE has seen Caylee anytime after the 16th of June 08. Casey was NEVER seen with Caylee anywhere between June 16th and July 15th when Cindy found her. Casey ALONE murdered Caylee then avoided family and old friends for as long as she could. GUILTY!!
Ther going for the ALL or NOTHING outcome, And you have to put that down to the creature herself not seeing mandatory life as a break Im sure she still fantasises about a 'bella vita' Her biggest mistake was not going for that limited immuinity deal . That might have got her 25 years with the possiblility of parole. I hope that haunts her when the cell door closes behind her on the day she is ultimately convicted.
Who is the stupid woman that called in asking if the Chloroform was purchased as Chloroform!?
When was the last time this woman saw Chloroform on a shelf anywhere!? "Hi, I'll be back, I have to pick up a loaf of bread, milk, a pack of smokes, and a bottle of Chloroform." DUH!!! lmao
i wonder why caylee just didnt sign her kid over to the state, instead of going this route. ok, sure, her parents would be mad at her, but this really was not a viable alternative. did she think that she could get away w/ knocking out the kid so she could party & do her own thing, then one day accidentally give her too much to the pt of death? either which way, if she didnt want to keep a job to pay a babysitter, she could have sold some things to pay for on instead of going this crazy direction
rumpole33 2 years ago
Hmm doesn't look like she was paying a babysitter. Had her mom who probably didn't appreciate Casey using her as a built-in babysitter, even though she may have adored Caylee.
Previously years back guess she had Jesse and family, and maybe a girlfriend or two, but that ended. Was probably telling friends Caylee was w/ "the nanny" just to fake some image when really Caylee was with Cindy. Then other times tell Cindy that Caylee was w/ nanny when really she Casey had her. All for show.
RandiSierra 2 years ago
i meant, if casey was using chloroform to 'knock out' caylee while casey went partying, then why not just hire a babysitter thru selling some stuff - instead of 'knocking out' caylee? cuz look at what ultimately happened.
rumpole33 2 years ago
I don't know. If she used chlorofom the day of Caylee's death it would seem that it would be to kill her because what were her big plans, renting a Blockbuster video with Tony, or was that some plan that just kind of came together. The other times it appears either Cindy had her, or Casey had her. Don't know if putting her in the trunk and chloroforming her on a regular basis were something she did because Cindy may have had her times she was partying even though she claimed she had a sitter.
RandiSierra 2 years ago
@randi: what i dont get is that did her family believe there actually was a babysitter b4 caylee died? or did they only hear about her after caylee died? if it was b4 death, then that might meant casey was doing something w/ caylee whilst telling her family that caylee was w/ the babysitter. that means caylee might've been knocked out during those times, since as we all know now there was no babysitter. otherwise, the chlorofoam was used only in the last few days (at least) of caylee's life. idk
rumpole33 2 years ago
The weird thing is apparently she did speak of Zenaida, Jeffrey, and Zachary around the time Caylee was born based on Cindy and Richard Grund. So what was that 2005. But as far as when Caylee wasn't with Cindy she'd bring Caylee over to for example Richardo's, and probably did tell Cindy she was going to work and Caylee was going to the nanny's.
RandiSierra 2 years ago
@randi: it gets to the point where i think just more than casey is lying about this non-existant nanny. maybe her family is keeping up that lie in order to try to give an 'out' for casey to use as her defense 'blame it on somebody else.' if this is so, then that whole family is a bunch of sociopaths. cant one of them, besides cindy's brother, just say 'you know what? enough is enough. we cant keep this up or else casey is going to spiral further into her delusions & see how that turned out?'
rumpole33 2 years ago
Yeah it's like Cindy knew Casey was lying about having a job, having a nanny, even being pregnant for goodness sakes the WHOLE entire time but wanted to hear lies. I definitely think she "piece-mealed" like one reporter said, those 911 calls when she finally did call, given that she had a "missing" Caylee based on her own email, and knew enough to say what did you do, and there's something wrong I found my daughter's car today and it smells like there's been a dead body in the damn car.
RandiSierra 2 years ago
I know I wonder the same. Hearing Zanny/Zany/or "the nanny" is one thing but hearing the full on name of Zenaida, and then Jeffrey Michael Hopkins and his son Zachary is that what she said? For Cindy to say it OK you can't rely on her because she obviously has her own agenda, but did Richard Grund really hear that story when Caylee was a baby (in 2005?) or did he just inject that info after the news broke. Cindy always seemed really weird in the fantasy she wanted to believe even back then.
RandiSierra 2 years ago
These news people aren't making any sense saying the new release doesn't hurt the defense, and they can still say somebody else did something. CASEY'S CAR had the same level of decomposition as the remains. The same STAGES of the insects life cycle with the body, car, bag, hair, etc. The same car that CASEY had posession of at that time. It's like they seem to think they would know more than forensic experts. Do they not understand these are scientists who gather and examine this evidence?
RandiSierra 2 years ago
I also want to add, you can order that online chloroform.
"acro organics"
is just one site.
but why do that when you can make it at home.
its 50 bucks from that company.
just make it at home for about 8 dollars
right casey?
sparklerocks 2 years ago
"acros organics"
sparklerocks 2 years ago
but i must add also, you must give a COMPANY NAME to get it.
found that at "acros organics"
didn't try to order it, but assume they would ask for some company name too.
Probably have to be connected to science
in some way.
but why bother if you can make the stuff
sparklerocks 2 years ago
this hole case ..with the tape and car smell and so on. this is horror
Winterfairy777 2 years ago 3
I"m just curious if any of you can answer this. I'm almost 50 but back in 1975, in science class, we disected frogs. they came to us alive in a jar and we put a cotton ball in there and i think that cotton ball was chloroform if i remember right.
of course it kills the poor frog.
I'm pretty sure that was chloroform
sparklerocks 2 years ago
i still remember the smell of it, and teacher walked around the class room handing each student their soaked cotton ball to put in the jar.
sparklerocks 2 years ago
NEVER MIND, I just looked it up.
and yes Chloroform was absolutely used for dissection of animals when in school.
and is still used today.
science class .
hmmmmmmmmm
sparklerocks 2 years ago
Wow. I don't know I remember the frogs in my class were already not alive, and frozen. I remember I found a rock in the stomach of mine. Yuck huh.
RandiSierra 2 years ago
lol, yea i remember our frogs were alive, but that teacher passed out a cotton ball with chloroform on it, and she told us not breathe it, just put it on the frog and screw the lid on tight.
i'm sure different schools did it different.
RandomDoors 2 years ago 2
No this news guy doesn't make any sense talking about computer searches when these other reports are showing that Casey had the car at the time the decomposition shows evidence in the trunk.
RandiSierra 2 years ago
Why if she planned the murder did she not plan the disposal of the body? Have never heard of a murder case where the victim is driven around in a car for three days....Obviously she did it and planned it out but she was incredibly STUPID if she wanted to get away with it.
hoits 2 years ago
I still think that the defense is going to blame this on the grandparents..I think that is why casey doesn't look at them or speak to them..
marcymarie55 2 years ago
The argument could be that Casey accidentally gave Caylee too much chloroform.
That could be true, but It's hard to believe it when there are searches of "how to break the neck" on her computer.
TheyH8MePoopsie 2 years ago
The chloroform searches wer done 3 months before Caylee died She also visited missing children sites indicating she had long thought about Caylee being out of her life I personally think she was jealous of her own child. In her twisted mind Caylee had replaced her in the affections of her parents. To do what she did takes HATE, though how you can hate a baby is beyond any normal thought process. She's a very disturbed young woman. But ultimately she knew right from wrong and may with her life.
hollybrook252 2 years ago
Yeah and I know it's horrific but this news report here just says chloroform could have bleach or acetone (like what nail polish remover?) that is HORRIBLE she gave Caylee that poison?
RandiSierra 2 years ago
don't forget TheyH8Me, they reported Caylee was found with duct tape around her mouth AND nose.
that is compatible with life.
that in itself would kill a person, and that would be murder.
sparklerocks 2 years ago
whoops incompatible with life, that alone would of killed Caylee, and with the chloroform in her system, she could not of tore the tape off her face to breathe.
no need to duct tape her wrists that way.
sparklerocks 2 years ago
Chloroform is also used in hospitals and nursing homes.
Strangly enough to remove band aid residu.
Cindy worked i a hospital right??
if we add up that porkypine head is guilty for diliverig the stuff.
PhilipsSBC 2 years ago
Chloroform has been banned from hospital usage in all forms back in the mid 70's.
Sierra1947 2 years ago
oh ok here i honestly didnt kew that,
PhilipsSBC 2 years ago
The worst defense team I ever heard of. They are banking on people believing because they are sticking to their story, it must be true. People aren't going to buy that bullshit! Casey was last seen with Caylee on the 16th of June 08. NOONE else ANYWHERE has seen Caylee anytime after the 16th of June 08. Casey was NEVER seen with Caylee anywhere between June 16th and July 15th when Cindy found her. Casey ALONE murdered Caylee then avoided family and old friends for as long as she could. GUILTY!!
Fogslifted 2 years ago 5
Ther going for the ALL or NOTHING outcome, And you have to put that down to the creature herself not seeing mandatory life as a break Im sure she still fantasises about a 'bella vita' Her biggest mistake was not going for that limited immuinity deal . That might have got her 25 years with the possiblility of parole. I hope that haunts her when the cell door closes behind her on the day she is ultimately convicted.
hollybrook252 2 years ago
oh come on give us the exact measurements and recipe of how to make
Never have heard of anything so stupid to to say on the internet with all of the wackos out here.Damn
Do they not have any social journalistic responsibility or eithics ?
Marc in NYC
silentfades 2 years ago
Who is the stupid woman that called in asking if the Chloroform was purchased as Chloroform!?
When was the last time this woman saw Chloroform on a shelf anywhere!? "Hi, I'll be back, I have to pick up a loaf of bread, milk, a pack of smokes, and a bottle of Chloroform." DUH!!! lmao
Fogslifted 2 years ago
you gave me a huge belly laugh and its been along time since I have had one
thanks
Marc
silentfades 2 years ago
I agree Marc, why not give us a list of the websites aswell, it's just so irresponsible.
narm67 2 years ago
Well we can't say Nancy is a journalist as she is not. She is geared in the "prosecutor" mode without any "ethics" what-so-ever.
Sierra1947 2 years ago