i dont need to show you, the saudis themself publish their own kind of quran different to the rest. i dont talk about the tasfir, i talk about the man written hadiths and yes they are used as a supliment for clarification of the quran. where does it say that Jesus is not God?
Hi investigate, as i said quran has been changed by saudis, it had been critisized by other muslims and its the growth of wahibism which majority of Muslims. as i said in our emails, Jesus claims to be God over and over again.
@forzaitalia2 LIAR YOU NOT A MUSLIM STOP GIVING YOUR PERSPECTIVE ON ISLAM ON THINGS YOU NO NOT YOU DARE ASSOCIATE A PROPHET WITH THE LORD OF ALL WORLDS DONT SAY YOU HAVENT BEEN WARNED THE HOUR IS UPON US
Moreover, Jesus primarily spoke Aramaic, with some Hebrew and Greek and this kind of Aramaic is known as Judeo-Aramaic. And on the Cross Jesus called Eli Eli lema sabachthani- Hebrew Ver-(Matt 27:46) or Eloi Eloi lema sabachthani -Aramaic Ver-(Mark 15:34). This is directed to GOD the Father. Known that Eli or El is GOD in singular form of Elohim.
Arabic Bible says Allah cause Allah in Arabic means GOD but not the same on how Muslim's notion of Allah.
To Muslims Allah is simply a name of the Islamic deity. Muslims also claim that the Qur'an is a perfect book revealed by GOD and yet I consider it imperfect since there are previous suras known to be canceled and replaced by "better ones". This cancellation itself shows that the book has been corrupted from its original version. How about the Satanic Verses written in the earlier Qur'an but then was excluded after Salman Rushdie revealed those verses in the public on 1980s.
Stupidity? That my friend would be believing in an illiterate pedophile. Which prophet believes Satan lives in the nose? muhammed, that's who. Which prophet married a six year old little girl then banger her out when she was 9? MO again. Which prophet arranged that he could steal his adopted son's wife? Muhammed once more. Please don't bring up stupidity then claim to worship the false prophet, the doer of evil, the worker of satan... Muhammed.
This hadith is obviously meant to be understood in a Metaphorical, sense. Satan is seen as symbol of everything bad & evil. The P
Prophet was using personification & symbolisim and he was warning the people to be aware about the hygiene of their bodies, its simular to how Jesus told parables
Satan in hand of Jesus?
After Judas ate food from Jesus' own hand, "Satan entered into him." (John 13:27)
According to the Law of the People of Jesus the Jews ((NOT christians becuase HE NEVER came to bring a new religion with the name christianity heck he NEVER heard of the name Jesus Christ! or Christianity))
It says its okay
Moses (as) and his gang raped 3 year old girls in the bible
........Now kill all the boys [innocent kids]. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man. (Numbers 31:7,17-18)"
The helper which Jesus was telling his disciples about was the Holy Spirit(John 14:26) not Muhammed.
Jesus is God. Your question was "(as) divine?" Divine is defined as "having the nature or being a deity. Jesus is the 1 living true God. The man-head of the trinity(Matthew 28:19, 2 Corinthians 13:14, John 14-17)Jesus is the image of the invisible God(Father) Colossians 1:15-23.
Our debate needs ot begin on the legitimacy of the quran or the Bible?
this is funny. Jesus was not talking about Muhammad because he explictly said to the disciples, "the Spirit of truth will abide with you forever"
Muhammad was not born yet. he never met the apostles, he never knew the apostles. this is called interpolation. i have more respect for you when you say the bible is corrupt, here you are placing Muhammad in the NT to legitimize your Prophet. weak.
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Blasphemer01 3 years ago
Jesus Christ is God. The Quran, written and changed by man, that requires the Hadith to translate verses is not proof.
forzaitalia2 3 years ago
Can you show me where the Quran is changed by man?
And Quran doesnt need hadith to translate verses
What you talk about is tafsir and its done by the Prophet him self and recorded by his own sahaba
If he didnt then people would interpote the verses to them self same thing christians do with the words of Jesus
And Jesus is not god thats one fact :)
lnvestigatelslam 3 years ago
i dont need to show you, the saudis themself publish their own kind of quran different to the rest. i dont talk about the tasfir, i talk about the man written hadiths and yes they are used as a supliment for clarification of the quran. where does it say that Jesus is not God?
forzaitalia2 3 years ago
I been in saudi and the Quran there is the same as here in europ :S
The man written hadiths are narretons of what they heared
they are not always truthfull or even said but the isnaad shows wich is good or bad
you can compare it with the bible
Well Jesus is born from a woman he eat food he never said he was God he never claimed to be God :)
lnvestigatelslam 3 years ago
Hi investigate, as i said quran has been changed by saudis, it had been critisized by other muslims and its the growth of wahibism which majority of Muslims. as i said in our emails, Jesus claims to be God over and over again.
forzaitalia2 3 years ago
Can you show me a Quran wich is changed by the saudis?
And why the muslims critizsed it and whats changed?
and also whats the concept of wahabism
And where did Jesus claim to be God?
lnvestigatelslam 3 years ago
@forzaitalia2 LIAR YOU NOT A MUSLIM STOP GIVING YOUR PERSPECTIVE ON ISLAM ON THINGS YOU NO NOT YOU DARE ASSOCIATE A PROPHET WITH THE LORD OF ALL WORLDS DONT SAY YOU HAVENT BEEN WARNED THE HOUR IS UPON US
ymafiaprince 4 months ago
allha is not god as well. a fact.
Rahulioo 3 years ago
so because it says that in a movie it must be true?
gamer2k1 3 years ago
No because the Aramic Language of Jesus says Allaha not yhwh or god or what ever
Jesus spoke Aramic not Hebrew
The name wich "Jesus" called on the cross was Elaha Elah...
The Arabic bible says Allah 17 times in Genesis
lnvestigatelslam 3 years ago
Investigate:
Not Aramic but ARAMAIC.
Moreover, Jesus primarily spoke Aramaic, with some Hebrew and Greek and this kind of Aramaic is known as Judeo-Aramaic. And on the Cross Jesus called Eli Eli lema sabachthani- Hebrew Ver-(Matt 27:46) or Eloi Eloi lema sabachthani -Aramaic Ver-(Mark 15:34). This is directed to GOD the Father. Known that Eli or El is GOD in singular form of Elohim.
Arabic Bible says Allah cause Allah in Arabic means GOD but not the same on how Muslim's notion of Allah.
vterroe 3 years ago
Cont..
To Muslims Allah is simply a name of the Islamic deity. Muslims also claim that the Qur'an is a perfect book revealed by GOD and yet I consider it imperfect since there are previous suras known to be canceled and replaced by "better ones". This cancellation itself shows that the book has been corrupted from its original version. How about the Satanic Verses written in the earlier Qur'an but then was excluded after Salman Rushdie revealed those verses in the public on 1980s.
vterroe 3 years ago
LOL they are very very easy to refute its not fun any more :(
lnvestigatelslam 3 years ago
Stupidity? That my friend would be believing in an illiterate pedophile. Which prophet believes Satan lives in the nose? muhammed, that's who. Which prophet married a six year old little girl then banger her out when she was 9? MO again. Which prophet arranged that he could steal his adopted son's wife? Muhammed once more. Please don't bring up stupidity then claim to worship the false prophet, the doer of evil, the worker of satan... Muhammed.
scgypsea 3 years ago
Muhammad (saaw) is the Final Prophet THAT Prophet
ww w.answering-christianity. com/umar_hassan/that_prophet.htm
And go read this book if you have the guts to do so btw
Nunmuslims exjews and exchristians and muslims worked on this book,
ht t p://75.126.222.101/data/en/ih_books/signal/en_prophet_mohammad_in_the_bible.pdf
lnvestigatelslam 3 years ago
Satan in nose?
This hadith is obviously meant to be understood in a Metaphorical, sense. Satan is seen as symbol of everything bad & evil. The P
Prophet was using personification & symbolisim and he was warning the people to be aware about the hygiene of their bodies, its simular to how Jesus told parables
Satan in hand of Jesus?
After Judas ate food from Jesus' own hand, "Satan entered into him." (John 13:27)
lnvestigatelslam 3 years ago
Pedoflile?
According to my old chatolic books
Mary (as) was 10-14 years old when se married 99 year old Jospehp
ww w.newadvent. org/cathen/08504a.htm
And also se married him few months after se gave birth to Jesus
so your God is a pedolfile for having a son with a 10 year old girl?
And because Jesus was the Father and the Son he is own son and father and ofcourse a pedofile for having a son with a 10 year old girl
Now lets take a look in the Law of the Jews about this
lnvestigatelslam 3 years ago
According to the Law of the People of Jesus the Jews ((NOT christians becuase HE NEVER came to bring a new religion with the name christianity heck he NEVER heard of the name Jesus Christ! or Christianity))
It says its okay
Moses (as) and his gang raped 3 year old girls in the bible
........Now kill all the boys [innocent kids]. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man. (Numbers 31:7,17-18)"
lnvestigatelslam 3 years ago
According to Scholars the girls hwere 3 years old
and the talmud jewish holliest book says the same thing,
Sanhedrin 55b . A Jew may marry a three year old girl (specifically, three years "and a day" old).
Sanhedrin 54b . A Jew may have sex with a child as long as the child is less than nine years old.
Kethuboth 11b . "When a grown-up man has intercourse with a little girl it is nothing."
My qeustion to you is , IS THE STEPHFATHER OF YOUR GOD A PEDOFILE?
lnvestigatelslam 3 years ago
Which prophet arranged that he could steal his adopted son's wife?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
ww w.answering-christianity. com/umar/zaynab_bint_jahsh.htm
Fabricated story :)
But your bible says Prophet lut had doggystyle sex with his OWN daughters
And your bible says God him self speaks about dicks as big as horses tits and sperm as donkeys!
Ezekiel 23!!
And many many more LOL
I still want to get your answer
Is Jospeh the Stepfather of your God( LOL God got a stepfather) a pedo?
lnvestigatelslam 3 years ago
hahaha POOR SOUL!
I was just like you cursing in ignorance!
Islam is the ONLY religion wich curses satan when they do any thing
the Quran states satan as the enemy of mankind
Do you know your OWN scholars believed he was a real prophet but send for the arabs?
ofcourse not !
you still believe God almighty came out of a VAGINA and sucked a TITTY for milk! and took a shit behind a bush ! hahahahaha
read this book
ht t p://abdurrahman. org/comprel/thecorrectreply.pdf
lnvestigatelslam 3 years ago
Btw can you proof to us WITHOUT contradicting the OT that God is 3 and that Jesus died for your sins:)
DONT QOUTE THE FALSE APOSTLE PAUL
But qoute from the OT where it says TRINITY or JESUS WHO SAYS IM part of 3
And also proof to us that the Ghospel of today is the REAL ghospel of Jesus :)
NOT manmade stuff
Proof to us that God in the Bible is the God of the unverise and NOT tribal God of Israel
SHOW US 1 VERSE OF THE BIBLE WICH SAYS LORD OF THE UNIVERSE
lnvestigatelslam 3 years ago
Btw pagan roman/greek myth polytheist
unlike you who worship a jew
we dont worship Muhammad (saaw)
We Worship Allah The GOD of Jesus The Creator of Jesus
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lnvestigatelslam 3 years ago
The helper which Jesus was telling his disciples about was the Holy Spirit(John 14:26) not Muhammed.
Jesus is God. Your question was "(as) divine?" Divine is defined as "having the nature or being a deity. Jesus is the 1 living true God. The man-head of the trinity(Matthew 28:19, 2 Corinthians 13:14, John 14-17)Jesus is the image of the invisible God(Father) Colossians 1:15-23.
Our debate needs ot begin on the legitimacy of the quran or the Bible?
scgypsea 3 years ago
In mattew there is no MANHEAD of trintiy in Matthew 28:19
Its like saying go fight for your country your family and your flag does this mean they are the same???
2 Corinthians 13:14
This paul speaking and NOT Jesus
Jesus NEVER EVER spoke of trinity Colossians 1:15-23.
The image of God is to be just truthfull ect ect
and if image of God means your God then al HUMANS are Gods,
Genesis 1:26
ht t p://75.126.222.101/data/en/ih_books/signal/en_prophet_mohammad_in_the_bible.pdf
lnvestigatelslam 3 years ago
Jesus was speaking Aramaic, not Syriac
snappa52 4 years ago
So can you tell us why the orginal scripts of the bible where greek??????????
and not aramaic
again you shot your self in the foot
lnvestigatelslam 4 years ago
Then you proved by yourself that the bible is not the book of God, thank you.
FahadKhan1988 4 years ago
this is funny. Jesus was not talking about Muhammad because he explictly said to the disciples, "the Spirit of truth will abide with you forever"
Muhammad was not born yet. he never met the apostles, he never knew the apostles. this is called interpolation. i have more respect for you when you say the bible is corrupt, here you are placing Muhammad in the NT to legitimize your Prophet. weak.
snappa52 4 years ago
There is no such thing as a bible in the time of Jesus
so to say the bible is corrupt is false
Because Jesus never brought any bible
The NT is a boigrafie written by hunderds of different people about the life of Jesus and some words he MIGHT have said
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The spirit of truth is with us today in the same form as 1429 years ago and is called al Quran
lnvestigatelslam 4 years ago
1* there was no bible at time of Jesus
2* Muslims believe the message of Jesus is corrupted and not the written stuff
3* Jesus never wrote mark luke john or what ever so to say people corrupted that is false becuase the words where not from him
4* And the NT is not from God because its not revealed by him but its nothing more them words of mere man
understand
so the bible is a corrupt version of the message of jesus
There was NO bible to be corrupted after Jesus departed !
lnvestigatelslam 4 years ago
So according to you the spirit of truth will only come for the diciples because christians of today where not born yet never met the apostles
And the dipciples lived for ever???
Hmm great job mister christian
The spirit of truth came for them and because Jesus is not God and doesnt know the future he coundt tell them that he will come soon or later
And again i suggest you read this book
h t t p://75.126.222.101/data/en/ih_books/signal/en_prophet_mohammad_in_the_bible.pdf
lnvestigatelslam 4 years ago
The way a prophecy works is that the action of the prophecy is foretold. the very first thing you've posted is 600 years late. its not prophecy.
snappa52 4 years ago
YES Allah cannot be hungry he does not eat. He(Allah) feeds you but he is not fed.
heartromeo 4 years ago
thank you bro.....
allah doesn't need to sleep or eat or...not like Jesus (pbuh).
hanzo77777 4 years ago
perfact answer!5 stars
mbczsfhkpiyrw 4 years ago