Most convincing theory so far, but it doesn't prove the existence of a god in the religious sense. Just an all-powerful sentient being that created the universe. But being converted to matter means that god is the whole universe, which is a theory I quite like. Also, thumbs up for the song! I love Evanescence!
10th dimension, 11th dimension, ...whatever u want to call
it's all a theory, so much energy you put in proving that god does not exist ... go and use this energy in improving peoples lives, what do you gain in proving that there is no god ? people are free to believe what they want to. if this makes them feel good why not !!!!
@proudpersian Know Nozick's experience machine? This is potentionally even better, since it's real.
Secondly, I was just trying to reply to a video (I believe it was deleted long ago) that claimed to prove the existence of a god.
Lastly, if people are simply wrong,one should point that out to them, so they can improve their understanding of life. And regardless of that, religion tends to be corrosive to a democratic, understanding society.
this is the dumbest video ive ever seen there is no way energy was just thereidc what you say what stupid theory you can come up with God was the one who created the universe hes timeless and omnipresent he was always there trying to imagine his power with our minds is incomprehensible so stop trying energy was never just there................
your "GOD" was invented before people knew where the sun went at night
you say that nothing can only create nothing, so who created your "GOD"?
does "GOD" have a dad? or rather a creator? before everything came in to being was he just chilling in the void of space for a few millenia and realized one day, "hey this is boring" and decided to create everything
sooner or later christianity will be dead and gone
@TehFoo1 Please research Christianity before you try to refute it with things that you just made up. God is the Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. He was not created. And no, He does not have a "dad"... He wasn't bored, He created us because He loves us, and desires a relationship with us. I pray that your eyes will be opened to Him.
@GitErDoneYo how do you know he doesnt have a dad or wasnt bored? and nothing i said is made up unless of course 2000 years ago people knew that the earth completes a cycle around the sun once every 365 days, i could be wrong. and if god truly loved me he wouldnt have created a place to torture me forever on the basis of me not thinking he exists.
What worthless poorly thought out arguments. f homosexuality is not acceptable in gods eyes could you explain why he created homosexuals as part of man kind. Evolutions is proven fact. Sadly nothing about god is proven it is seen as an explanation for what we cannot yet explian. Why is the quality of life in the most reigious parts of the world less than the West or why is life so cheap in the religious middle east.
@welshjim22 Evolution isn't a proven fact. And nobody can prove that God doesn't exist, nor can we prove that He does. Please read "The Case For Christ" by Lee Strobel. He was an atheist and set out to prove God didn't exist and realized how wrong he was. He ended up giving his life to God and became a pastor.
You may think your intelligent saying that the big bang is proven? The truth is the big bang is a theory. A theory is not proven, a theory has a lot of support. Just because a theory has support, does not mean it is true, for a long time scientists believed the Earth was the center of the universe. Before you say the big bang is proven realize it is still called the big bang theory.
@smittyx3 A theory is a model which generates an output when information is put in. The formula for gravity is a theory in the same way that the big bang is. If the formula (constant.m1.m2)/r² = Fz works 100 times, it's not proven that it will generate the right output (=the output we measure) the 101th time. There is a certain probabilty-level, at which we consider a theory as "proven". Without that, it's easier to prove that every raven is black than above formula.
@5THunderlord you should not compare gravity being proven to the big bang being proven, I say this because gravity is all around us every day. Gravity can be proven easily with simple tests, such as jumping in the air, gravity will pull you down. The big bang is said to have happened a long time ago, not something testable like gravity. By the way, not saying it did not happen, however that is the type of logic that you are criticizing.
@smittyx3 Aren't the results of the Big Bang around us even more prominently than gravity? The universe is expanding, time and space was created, matter and anti-matter were introduced in this universe, etc.
And what if - and if I'm not mistaking, it has been done already - we recreate a Big Bang (on a small scale)? If the results of that experiment, make sense when compared to what this universe is (doing), would that prove it?
@5THunderlord If we could re-create the big bang, we could create life, which has never been done. Possibly a similarity but not the exact big bang on a smaller scale.
@smittyx3 You'd have to let it "settle" for a loooooong time before any life started to appear (that is if the pogression of time in that small universe is related to ours).
Look up string theory. I am only 13, yet even i am intelligent enough to understand the universe was created by energy.
Religion was first used 10,000 years ago to explain things. NOW WE HAVE SCIENCE, WE CAN SEE THE INNERMOST STRUCTURES OF OUR BODY, WE CAN SEE EVIDENCE OF THE BIG BANG!
And also, if god can just ''exist'' why cant energy and matter?
@0ggabOgga You might be asking the question: "What was there before the Big Bang?" The problem with this question, is that time itself only existed from the moment the Big Bang occured. What caused the Big Bang has to be higher-demensional (such as the super-strings vibrating in the 10th or 11th dimension)... if you claim that nothing can't create anything.
If god can exist forever, why cannot energy? Energy can create matter, that has been proven.
And if there was neither time nor space, how would something like god exist? For in your logic, energy does not exist?
Also, even i believe some aspects of the big bang theory are wrong. BUT we can see evidence of the big bang. Some light takes quadrillions of years to reach your eye. Therefore, hubble telescope can see light from the big bang.
@0ggabOgga Wait wait, I think there's a misunderstanding here. When have I ever claimed that a god/God exists, let alone forever? The "RE:" in the title of the video stands for "Response:".
I'm well aware of the fact that energy and matter are interchangable.
I'm also aware of the fact that looking in the distance is actually looking in the past. What are you trying to prove?
@0ggabOgga "We can explain it, but yes, i too belive there are aliens, but these did not creater the universe"
If you believe there is a God and aliens...do you think aliens believe in your God? I doubt aliens believe in the same God you do. Just look at how many religions are on earth...imagine how many more religions will there be in the whole universe all together?
oh and did u guys forget that the definition of divine, paranormal, supernatural etc. means can not b explained by science, its sumthin beyond our intelligence. the problem with mankind is that its tries 2 know EVRYTHING when it will never know all, there are just things that were not meant to know.
everyone its as easy as this. God said to have created the earth. it is said he created it in what like a few days? and according to the bible, the earth is only a couple thousand years old (6000 i beleive). science and our general knowledge has proved that the earth is actually THOUSANDS OF MILLIONS years old. there, done. if it is that badly off and wrong about the age of the earth, how can you give credit to anything else it says.
Part 2 But wait, then how do you know somebody made it? If you've never seen the person who made it, how do you know somebody designed it and put it all together. I am far more complex than a computer (which took planning and designing to be made) and you are trying to tell me that nobody designed me? Just because you can't see god doesn't mean he doesn't exist
For those who don't believe there was a creator who planned and designed the earth let me give you an example. Look at your computer, did somebody make that computer? Did somebody design it? You will most likely say yes. Ok do you know who made the computer or who designed it? Have you seen the creator of the computer? Did you watch him design it and put it all together? No.
was the law of probability at work. So before either of you morons, whether Christian or Atheist, start claiming there is PROOF, PLEASE.....consider the logical fallacy of that move....There. I'm done ranting.
And Christians, stop claiming scientific discoveries are miracles of God. That pisses me off. Your mindset is to believe the Bible, and that it must be true because they contain moral truths that have withstood thousands of years. You have welcomed scientific discoveries throughout history by stoning revolutionaries, thinking that your God knows best, and that change is bad. So now, in the modern ages, you say "God cured his cancer! It's a miracle!" when all you saw *CONTINUED2*
There is no evidence to support the existence of God. There is no evidence to support the NON-existence of God. We don't know yet. NO ONE DOES. Atheists, you are just as retarded as Christians. Christians believe in that which hasn't been proven, and you believe that it CANT be proven. Both of your viewpoints are based on BELIEFS. Atheists, how the hell can you rely on science and fact when you actually rely on beliefs? *CONTINUED*
@JohananRaatz I hadn't heard of this model before you posted it here. I watched part 1 of the video and read some articles on the model mentioned above.
The model seems interesting, but if it turned out to be true, I think that both you and the author of the video deduct incorrect things from this. From what I understand, the model doesn't say wave-functions are minds. It says consciousness is a result of the uncertain state of electrons (and nucleus'.)
@JohananRaatz Also, you talk about this "monoism". I don't understand how you could state that as a truth. "Dualism creates unherent contradictions"? I don't see the contradiction.
I'm a materialist myself, but I don't think everything consist of 1 "thing". And if it would, this "thing" would be energy. Since that's what the superstrings use to influence these dimension (string theory).
P.S.: Didn't notice you were the author of the vid until now.
@JohananRaatz And regarding your question: "How was the very first wave-function collapsed?"
This is a problem many people adress, though likely in another conext. This is how I describe the problem regarding the Big Bang:
"So how did the first wave of probablitity collapse (and thus creating space and time for anything to live in) if there was no quantum obsever to make it do so?"
The reply: there is no need for an observer to be there in the first place.
@JohananRaatz Because when there's the possibility of an observer (which is not guaranteed for every universe in the multiverse), this possibility takes place in one of the timelines that follows from this Big Bang (Many worlds theory). This "creates" the obsever, so he can collapse his own wavefuntions into the history of "his" universe up to that point in (the elapsed) time.
@30cuteforever AMEN TO THAT BROTHER THEY ARE WORSE THAN THE DEVIL !!WAT A PITIFUL PEOPLE NOT BELIEVING THAT GOD EXISTS.ONE DAY BRO THEY WILL SEE THE POWER OF OUR GOD, WHEN THE END TIMES COME AND THEY WILL TREMBLE..
Fine with me, but if so then you people are worse than the supposed god you worship (and that's saying something, 'cause he's the most evil, sick, twisted, vindictive, drunk with blood, short sighted, unreasonable and incompetent character in your fairy tale book).
Also had a quick look at your channel and some of your responses, DAMN that christian love is just so... non-existant.
I swear, some religitards are just sickening.
Religion needs to die, either on it's own or forcefully.
Common man`s reasons why god does not exist A) total absence from from natural events, No sig of a god before, during or after natural events. B)The total absence of favoritism towards believers. Even church steeples need lightning rods for protection against god.C) The absence of any reaction, when crimes are committed in his name. D) The suffering of the innocent. One could accept suffering of the guilty, but little children
but you said energy is eternal meaning that there is no beginning or and meaning energy existed so there was never nothing, and quantum physics proves that particles can appear in space and time and after build up of particles in space high speed collisions of particles and reactions can begin to create things and rip holes in space-time continuum creating more and more advanced things which would then begin to shape out planets and suns etc.
and the reason things have complex features and shapes are the laws that come from energy, for example gravity causes other elements and planets to be forced in a direction because of it and other energy in the universe can shape the entities floating in space, not an ingenious mind, and if there was an ingenious mind, or god creating all of this how does the living entity live and can not be seen heard or sensed in any way?
a lot of people think that god doesn't exist because they expect the Christian god to be like every other god. They think that all gods would just make the world with their magical powers. But, they can see the world is not magic, but it's science. But, the God i know, actually created science itself. He deliberately made the world that way, so people can see how complex the world, and so people can realise that an intelligent being created everything.
LAUGHING!!! No one can know how many dimensions there are since we can only see 3 and DETECT only 3...So already here your theory fails...And everything your video says are just theories nothing more.None of the facts you stated is not proven and you wrote it's unreasonable to ASSUME :) I can assume i'm a crocodile in 5th multiverse 11th dimesnion but that does not prove anything especially in scientific way. ...Staying atheist...
@oggisimus1 I do understand your [insert appropriate word here]. However, look at the date of this video: it was posted over 2 years ago. I was 14...
What I say might be mere theories, but you're wrong on the 3 dimensions. We can clearly see the effects of the 4th dimension (which is duration (often called "time")). If there were only 3 dimensions, you'd be stuck in place, as you're defined in only 3 dimensions and not in an extra dimension, allowing you to move.
@5THunderlord I'm not saying only 3 dimensions exist...I said we can only detect 3 (because you can't see 4th or imagine how would an object look like in 4 dimension) and no one can know how many are out there (because you specificly said 11th dimension).
@oggisimus1 I can perfectly imagine how 4D objects look like. 5D objects is another story though...
The philosophical path I follow ends in 10 or 11 dimens (there it hits a roadblock). This is mathematically possible. But I know that our maths also work in more dimens (16 is one of those, if I'm not mistaking; The M-model?)
@5THunderlord nah m8 you can't see how a 4D object looks like we can only it's 3D shadow...It's not possible for us to see 4th (5th-6th etc.) dimension with our eyes... Only thing we can do is as you say imagine and that is it...But i'm going to be honest with you and say i'm not very well informed in this topic so do not take my opinion as my final claim,i'm just starting to look into this so i really appreciate your comments and thoughts...Very interested in scientifically way...
@5THunderlord nah m8 you can't see how a 4D object looks like we can only it's 3D shadow...It's not possible for us to see 4th (5th-6th etc.) dimension with our eyes... Only thing we can do is as you say imagine and that is it...But i'm going to be honest with you and say i'm not very well informed in this topic so do not take my opinion as my final claim,i'm just starting to look into this so i really appreciate your comments and thoughts...Very interested in scientifically way...
scientists have proven there are other dimensions, just because you cant see it doesnt make it not exist, we can only see it because we are in a 3d world, lets say we were in a 2d world and everything inside was 2d and a 3d object passed through the 2d plane, entities in the 2d plane can only see the space taken up in their 2d world, so if a shpere passed through you culd only see a circle gradually getting larger as it passed through(because at the center is bigger).
Four reasons why I think there is no god; A) Total absence from the natural world. No sign of a god, before, during or after, natural disastres B) The absolute absence of favoritism towards believers. Even chruches need lightning-rods to protect them from god. C) The absence of any reaction, when crimes are committed in his name. C) The suffering of the innocent. One could accept that the guilty must suffer, but children ???
@robot014 that's what atheists does, we just tell you how it is and most of you don't care for the truth so you twist God's word into something that is cruel and evil... there's no portrayal of God in the bible as a cruel being or even evil... that's atheists imagination
@princeztrouble God's moral standards? No thanks! Look at how God rewards child sacrifice for Jephthah, how he arranges the killing of Job's beloved children just because Job trusted God, how God commands his people to rip little girls from the bloody arms of their murdered mothers and take them home to share with YHVH's priests, how he approves of public rape to punish people. Look at the command to practice ritualized cannibalism! What a wonderful pattern for morality!
i love physics... but i dont believe in SHIT that it says about the world..
and if there is NO God, and the Bible is JUST A BOOK!! then how come it relates to ALL OF OUR LIVES!! remember this was written hundreds of yrs ago.. yet it predicts the future and for every question u have about life, theres an answer in there... so how can u tell me that there's NO GOD?
@princeztrouble the bible is just a book. written by men to artificially enhance the churches power. the bible doesn't predict the future or answer every question. it contains storys with such vague writing that the only reason that people think it predicts the future is because dimwits like you find something you don't understand in life so you look in your holy book and find some vague story that barely relates to what happened but you take it as fact. face it, faith is an infantile belief.
@deadmoron1 so saying that there's Judgment Day, so i guess that's not predicting the future... it's really ignorant of atheists to think or assume that all Christians are unintelligent, just because they believe in God... well it really doesn't bug me since you don't even know me... but one day we both will find out what happens after death, and since i'm right, and i am going to heaven and you might not, so i'm gonna pray for you, have a good day sir... God Bless!
@princeztrouble you can't take the story of the judgement day and use it as proof of "predicting the future" when it has yet to happen, meaning that there is nothing supporting the idea that it predicts the future. and just for the record, i'm not assuming that you are both unintelligent and ignorant for simply believing in a god, i'm calling you ignorant because you have shown yourself as ignorant. you can't just say that you are right and make it true, you need evidence
@princeztrouble After you die, will find out nothing. The dead don`t talk,see or hear. Your prayer is welcome, but I would appreciate it more, if you would open a science book for a change.
@lizazoon and how are you so sure that i don't open a science book... you are making assumptions about me when you don't even know who i am and you are making assumption about a God that you barely even know...
@princeztrouble And you make silly assumptions about my knowledge of the bible. I do hope that you will study your bible as much as I did, maybe you will then loose your faith too.
@lizazoon guess your faith wasn't strong as mine... it is clearly stated in the Bible that if you don't read it with an open mind and faith you will never understand it... you have to be willing to let God guide you..
@princeztrouble Good luck man. Sooner or later reality will set-in. Mother Theresa doubted her faith in the end, so did a few popes. This imaginary being will one day stop providing inspiration.
Yet she increased her prostitution, remembering the days of her youth when she engaged in prostitution in the land of Egypt. She lusted after their genitals as large as those of donkeys, and their seminal emission was as strong as that of stallions.
I dont want to offend anyone, i have nothing against the belief of god or any religion but you call people stupid yet you believe in a guy that no one can sense in any way who made everything.
If atoms exists they had to be created from something, the big bang exists, someone or something had to create the atoms from which we came. what came first the chicken or the egg? Or atoms and creation or nothing? if something existed before the ultimate big bang how was it placed there? Creation had to begain somewhere. Although there is no proof of what anyone thinks I tend to disagree that atheists seem to think that they have proof of where we came from.
@nellyr06 Atoms (in the most common form) consist of elektrons, neutrons and protons. Neutrons contain 2 down-quarks and 1 up-quark. Protons contant 2 up-quarks and 1 down-quark. The egg was first, since the chicken mutated from a dinsasour --> the egg held an embryo of a chicken. The big bang has very likely occured in this universe. But it's your right to deny all this, though I think it would be the same as denying the existence of, fire (when the first person who saw it, told you about it).
There is an constradiction in the following statement: "The energy always existed" ; the energy concept is "the capacity for making an work", in the begining there had not potential differences; therefore, there had not energy, the energy didn`t existed because according the "bigbang theory" the universe was concentrated inside an infinitely tiny point. Note: I use normal english; do not use phrasal verb, or dialectical sentences if you feel like discussing with me, please.
@Leivinn20 That infitely tiny point held a lot of matter and antimatter at a high pressure and temperature. So there was a lot of energy there, at that time: you can make heat and matter "work". I could argue that the energy came from a higher dimension, but that would be contradicting the law of constant energy (if that's the correct name for it).
This is going towards the "what was before the big-bang" discussion. I'm not sure what to say to. I see your point though.
@5THunderlord : But, «where» was the potential difference?, how it took «place»?, if the space didn`t existed. According the "Bigbang Theory" all (matter, space, and time) was concentrated in an very tiny point without differences. Thanks for using normal english; I guess you are from northamerican.
@Leivinn20 There are hypotheses about the "disrupting" of the balance. There is this theoritcal particle that can switch between matter and anti-matter state, but has more "problems" while changing to anti-matter than vise versa. The energy came from the anhilation of matter and anti-matter in equal numbers (cfr. Einstein). The potential to change was in the matter all along. If there wasn't any potentional in it, would we exist (assuming the theory is correct)?
@5THunderlord: by the way, excuse me by grammatical mistakes, it`s common problem of the intermediate level bilingual people. We frequently confuse the grammatical rulers of both languages. I will reply soon your questions. Have nice day. Ok, God bless Europe. I am from Venezuela (I dislike emigrate, Europe is for the European)
@5THunderlord: consider the following experiment: if we switch on an light source in front of three sensitive devices (sensors), one at the center (in front of light source), one at the left, and one at the right; and then switch on. The result will be all sensors will activate at same time, regardless how long lasted the light. This phenomenon or natural event don´t has natural explaination, however, the light exists. My statment is: God exists, the human mind is not the reality limit.
@Leivinn20 I'm not sure what you're trying to explain/prove. If all sensors are equal (have equal response time), then I find it logical that (when placed on the edge of a circle and the source is in the center) all 3 activate simulataniously.
v = x/t
so t = x/v
The speed of light in vacuum is constant and the distance is constant. So the time has to be the same.
And regarding your final statement: if God would exist, would be able to comprehend that it's above our comprehension?
@5THunderlord I think you`re making a description, it`s different to an explaination, I mean, all sensors are activated regardless how long last the light emition. All sensors are activated if even one photon is emited. The question is: how is it possible?, - simple, one light particle can to be in two places at same time. The human mind aren`t the reality limit. The natural phenomenons aren`t usefull for support the statment: "God don`t exists". God can be omnipresent and real.
@Leivinn20 It is possible that particles are in an "undetermined" state, which allows them to be at multiple places simultaniously (or none at all, depending on how you look at it). It is only when particles are observed, that their state gets fixed. e.g.: the Schrödinger formula discribes an area in which an elektron has x% chance to be (x is freely chosen; higher chance = larger area). Even omnipresence can be described in formulas. So I still don't see your point.
@5THunderlord: My piont is: the natural laws aren`t usefull for support the idea: God don`t exists. an natural phenomenon never repeats identically. Can the particles reminds all its movements for avoid repeat of one from them?., - absolutely not, the answers in simple: the universe chances by inteligent design (God`s decision). By the way, we are inteligent beings, therefore, we need an universe predictable, your evidence is ciscunstantial.
@5THunderlord Let me add little more: because a natural phenomenon never repeats itself identically, the probability of occurring of natural event that has never happened is zero. The particles change by inteligent design. Richard Dawkins is wrong, God exists and the probabilities exists too. Your statment: "indeterminated state" is interesting.
@Leivinn20 Why would a "natural phenomenon" never repeat itself? We know how we can make wood (mainly carbon) burn and turn into CO2. It happens every time we set it on fire. So isn't that "phenomenon" repeating itself over and over? I also don't see why a universe should be predictable to us. As Niels Bohr said: "If quantum mechanics hasn't profoundly shocked you, you haven't understood it yet."
@5THunderlord If we based on the hipothesis: "We are created beings", - we need an world predictable to avoid the crazy, therefore, your evidence is circunstantial, it is equal regardless the view points. Each leaf on an tree is unique (singular) and unrepeatable. ¿how is this possible?, - the particles don`t has memory, the unique logic answer is: God exists, the Bible`s God is the means where all things exist (Facts 17: 25- 28, quote from apostle Paul in the Athens Areopagus, first century).
@Leivinn20 Not everything (barely anything) that is writen by the apostles is true. In fact, I know a lot more about the world, than the people who lieved in the first century did. Secondly there is no relation to being created and having (the need for) a predictable world. And how can you say all the leaves are unique? They're made of cells, and cells multiply. They pass their DNA/RNA on to the next one, with slight changes every now and then. But 2 equal cells are eventually unevidable.
@5THunderlord: Each leaf on a tree is unique as finger prints are unique; no one has discovered two finger prints perfectly equals. Each natural event or phenomenon is singular. The likehood of an unique phenómenon do not exists because never has ocurred and will not repeats. The reality changes by Intelligent design (ID). Look around the stones, screws, peoples, your skin, your relatives, stars and other things. the particles don`t has memory. Bye, God bless you. Thanks a lot. from venezuela.
@Leivinn20 just thought id point out, the ''unique logic answer'' being god is simply a theory or hipothesis (excuse me for getting the two mixed up, i want the one which is unproven scientificaly) just because the bible says its real doesn't mean it is. There have been multiple occasions where the bible was proved wrong. Also, if that particular bible is right, who's to say the others are wrong?
@5THunderlord let me repeat. Richard dawkins is wrong; the likehood calculus isn´t usefull for support the statment "God don`t exists. exists probabilities".
your god is my boo. When I need a good bit of sodomy, jesus comes over and spreads his ass cheeks for me. if he takes it like a man... I sometimes give him a reach-around.
The problem you got there is that there is no such things like 10th, 8th dimensions etc. it has never been proven scientificaly, it's a fairy tale.the original source of energy can create an infinite amount of energy because it's a source.energy can convert into another type of energy but and it would have to if it didn't gave a source.But a SOURCE of energy doesn't have to convert itself.You atheist are so afraid of having your religion disproven that you are quick and fierce to post videos.
@myhood25 It appears that you are misinformed about the scientific method. Pointing out the fact that string theory can not "prove" the origin of energy does not give you license to make any claim you want and proclaim it as a scientific fact. Judging by your abstract of the law of conservation, it is clear that you have no background in science so I don't blame you too much for your naivity to science. Please leave science alone...you might hurt yourself.
Wow....I love how starts off his argument in this video with one of the toughest and one of the most unprovable (sp?) theories ever created. Sounds almost like you took God and replaced him with what you THINK happens. Now why is it so hard to believe that a tenth dimension is not part of a design? Why does God have to exist in the physical world? Anyone? Is it because we said so? Well I
ll tell you, the more you realize that God resides outside, the more room for science is made.
Whomever posted this needs to calmly look again at what they are responding to. At about the 45 second mark of your video you state energy existed before the universe. That is what was being stated by the video your commenting on. You agree on that one. Look closer.
I believe we all have this inner desire to feel significant when we correct each other, and in the time we live now, it's a trap we all end up falling into. But I don't think that's any way to be significant. It's the easy way out. I think it's much harder to try to have a real conversation with someone. Do you think there is some way we can talk about the things we believe to be right, instead of what we disagree with?
You know, I can't help but think it's my fault; maybe I got a little carried away or something, but I'm getting tired of getting in conversations like these. We disagree and then we try to correct each other.
It seems that science has a way of explaining things in this world, making them seem insignificant.
'that's just the quantum particles'
'that's just super string vibrations'
'the 10th dimension'
'universe collapsing onto itself'
'the conversion of energy to mass'
Yes, they may all be true, but why would you ever allow this lullaby make you believe that any of these things are either insignificant, purposeless, or sacred from the point of view of life or intelligence?
"Yes they may all be true, but why would you ever allow this lullaby make you to [not]* believe that any of these things are insignificant, purposeless, or sacred from the point of view of life or intelligence."
"god of the gaps is a logical fallacy. We can't explain the big bang, therefore god did it. I can't explain the holes in my swiss cheese, therefore god did it."
We can't explain something, therefore Chance did it.
I can't explain the holes in swiss cheese: Random Mutation.
ur a faggot saying that god exists to get people to watch then saying all this atheis shit that is bull fucking shit that vid bull shit ur a a coward,deceivng and denying idiot
NO ! I come from the first people to populate the Planet. Without Africans no race would exist. I want to stay alive for as long as I can to fight inJustice. My purpose in life is not to celebrate death, or Korn, or vampires, or Satanic worship, but to fight white supremacy, and meet it head on. lol...
By the why, some people believe in Satanism, yet they foolishly doubt God. lol... They must know that Satan exist, but God is a DON for the boy Satan. He live on lies. Illusion. Fake. lol
Still, Gregor Mendel Smashed Charles Darwin's theory with experimental proof. Im dealing with reality not some theory. That theory was used as an excuse for white supremacy to go in and Kill the American Indians , and then boast about it with pride. They are scared of Mendel because he exposed white supremacy by descovering Genetics. Now DNA has slaughtered it. But because most white people are racist they want to hold on to it, and have the nerve to condem Chistians. lol... This is too easy
I really don't see what Darwin has to do with that so-called "white supremacy". Are you stating here that evolution theory has been developed to "proof" that "white is better than any other color"?
And what's the connection between the fail of religion and racistic ppl? Religion just can't stand with the current amount of knowledge available, what has that got to do with enslaving Indians?
Besides, those crusades weren't too peaceful either.
lol, don't waste time on him. hes racist.. thats what he is, and he always will be. hes just to stupid to see not all black ppl are bad, and that there are white dumbasses to. so all u have to comment on him is : ,,!,, ò.ó ,,!,, . [for all those dumb racists..: i am white :D]
lol.. You may try to sound intelligent but , Just like Charles Darwin, it just a theory that cant be proven scientifically. Gregor Mendel was greater than Darwin. Fact. He is the one who discovered genetics. Your theories spring from him but ya dont know it. What dimension was the spirit in ? You dont know. Period. You may , if you want , come up with another theory. lol...
The evelution theory is nevertheless the best standing theory ever made. There's nothing that can be doubted less. "Greatness" is relative, so you can't claim that a fact... I had never even heard of him. And to answer your question of the spirit: it was in none dimension. As it didn't exist, nor it had to potential to exist (it has no wavefunction).
Lastly, "theory" got the meaning of "wild speculation" by abuse of to ignorant ppl. I use it in its proper meaning.
Wild speculation... Let me ask you something. If there is a group of people who claim to see something, and you go to see, with your eyes, the very thing they claim to see, and you don't see it, then does that really mean that that particular thing does not exist?
Is your eyes the only way you can perceive the world?
Your question implies that it is OK to perceive the world through somebody else's eyes, which is patently absurd.
Science demands objective evidence. Evidence that is different depending on who is viewing it is not science. Science would have no meaning if it relied on that kind of observation.
'Perspective' is an interesting choice of words as it almost completely transforms the meaning of your post and my response to it. Science demands objective evidence that is consistent across all observers regardless of opinion or desires.
There's nothing wrong with the idea that people have different opinions of the world they live in. Understanding those differences helps us to get along.
These are two very different subjects that you inappropriately twisted together.
Yeah, I know. The different point of view/perspective is a complicated subject to go into. But the reason I decided to add that in there was not to add onto my original message, but to point out that seeing through someone else's eyes seems to be the same as seeing through another perspective.
You should reply to the difference between fact and truth.
If Joe tells Jill that he saw a ghost in Seattle on 1 Jan 2000, it would be reasonable for Jill to accept as a truth that he saw a ghost.
But if later on Jill discovers that objective forensic evidence(DNA, video, credit card receipts, etc) places Joe at the scene of a murder in China on that date, Jill must question her original 'truth.'
'Truth,' doesn't require facts in order to be valid, but it cant survive when facts contradict it.
I don't think so about facts and truth. I believe they depend on each other. And I don't think it's really sciences job to refute truths, but rather to confirm them.
But you're right when you say Truths cannot survive when facts contradict it, but I would suspect it's the other way around to. To say Truth and Fact are not interrelated is like saying the left and right brain has no relationship.
But I think telling another person that you've seen a Ghost, I think is a matter of fact not truth. The implications that it would imply if it were true would be truth. And I don't think it would be reasonable for Jill to accept the Ghost without investigation, as it is an anomaly to what Man currently knows.
I think this is a case where they should deal with it as a fact before dealing with it as a truth.
But you know, I have a question. Some scientists will argue for the objectivity of the world, or physical reality. But how could they, if most of them being relative physicists don't even study the fundamentals of physical reality, the subatomic world?
Your argument here boils down to: If we can't know everything, we cant know anything so why bother.
Another analogy: If a person knew nothing about how an internal combustion engine works, it is still useful and practical knowledge (and knowable) to know how to drive a car.
Even if I knew nothing about subatomic particles, it is still useful (and knowable) to know the characteristics of a ball rolling down a hill.
Well, yes it's useful. And you make a good point. I want you to know I acknowledge that. But my argument is never the acceptance of either knowing everything or knowing nothing at all. I think some scientists err on the side of knowing everything, and I think that religion errs on the other, so they proceed to make assumptions. My argument is always a balance between 2 sides. So in this, it would be a case of knowing enough; and still in after, being humble to the possibility.
I really have to say something though. I happened to think about your analogy when I was reading up on the subject of NCC (neural-correlates to consciousness), and it suddenly hit me.
There is a completely other side to the analogy you presented, and it has to do with consciousness.
Most convincing theory so far, but it doesn't prove the existence of a god in the religious sense. Just an all-powerful sentient being that created the universe. But being converted to matter means that god is the whole universe, which is a theory I quite like. Also, thumbs up for the song! I love Evanescence!
dontscrewtheworld 16 hours ago
10th dimension, 11th dimension, ...whatever u want to call
it's all a theory, so much energy you put in proving that god does not exist ... go and use this energy in improving peoples lives, what do you gain in proving that there is no god ? people are free to believe what they want to. if this makes them feel good why not !!!!
proudpersian13 1 month ago
@proudpersian Know Nozick's experience machine? This is potentionally even better, since it's real.
Secondly, I was just trying to reply to a video (I believe it was deleted long ago) that claimed to prove the existence of a god.
Lastly, if people are simply wrong,one should point that out to them, so they can improve their understanding of life. And regardless of that, religion tends to be corrosive to a democratic, understanding society.
5THunderlord 1 month ago
@proudpersian13 Oh, and your punctuation sucks; I'd have a look at that if I were you.
5THunderlord 1 month ago
@5THunderlord lol, thanks i am going to imrove it. sorry ! english is not my first language.
proudpersian13 1 week ago
this is the dumbest video ive ever seen there is no way energy was just thereidc what you say what stupid theory you can come up with God was the one who created the universe hes timeless and omnipresent he was always there trying to imagine his power with our minds is incomprehensible so stop trying energy was never just there................
s1lvrinferno 6 months ago
your "GOD" was invented before people knew where the sun went at night
you say that nothing can only create nothing, so who created your "GOD"?
does "GOD" have a dad? or rather a creator? before everything came in to being was he just chilling in the void of space for a few millenia and realized one day, "hey this is boring" and decided to create everything
sooner or later christianity will be dead and gone
TehFoo1 6 months ago
@TehFoo1 Please research Christianity before you try to refute it with things that you just made up. God is the Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. He was not created. And no, He does not have a "dad"... He wasn't bored, He created us because He loves us, and desires a relationship with us. I pray that your eyes will be opened to Him.
GitErDoneYo 4 months ago
@GitErDoneYo how do you know he doesnt have a dad or wasnt bored? and nothing i said is made up unless of course 2000 years ago people knew that the earth completes a cycle around the sun once every 365 days, i could be wrong. and if god truly loved me he wouldnt have created a place to torture me forever on the basis of me not thinking he exists.
TehFoo1 3 months ago
What worthless poorly thought out arguments. f homosexuality is not acceptable in gods eyes could you explain why he created homosexuals as part of man kind. Evolutions is proven fact. Sadly nothing about god is proven it is seen as an explanation for what we cannot yet explian. Why is the quality of life in the most reigious parts of the world less than the West or why is life so cheap in the religious middle east.
welshjim22 7 months ago
@welshjim22 Evolution isn't a proven fact. And nobody can prove that God doesn't exist, nor can we prove that He does. Please read "The Case For Christ" by Lee Strobel. He was an atheist and set out to prove God didn't exist and realized how wrong he was. He ended up giving his life to God and became a pastor.
GitErDoneYo 4 months ago
What's worse than this argument is the retarded remix in the background.
kcikdubb 7 months ago
You say whatever you want, you'll be forgiven on Judgement Day.
ThatHaloGuy117 8 months ago
religion and the laughable ''GOD'' belongs in the past
statixx1982 9 months ago
You may think your intelligent saying that the big bang is proven? The truth is the big bang is a theory. A theory is not proven, a theory has a lot of support. Just because a theory has support, does not mean it is true, for a long time scientists believed the Earth was the center of the universe. Before you say the big bang is proven realize it is still called the big bang theory.
smittyx3 9 months ago
@smittyx3 A theory is a model which generates an output when information is put in. The formula for gravity is a theory in the same way that the big bang is. If the formula (constant.m1.m2)/r² = Fz works 100 times, it's not proven that it will generate the right output (=the output we measure) the 101th time. There is a certain probabilty-level, at which we consider a theory as "proven". Without that, it's easier to prove that every raven is black than above formula.
5THunderlord 9 months ago
@5THunderlord you should not compare gravity being proven to the big bang being proven, I say this because gravity is all around us every day. Gravity can be proven easily with simple tests, such as jumping in the air, gravity will pull you down. The big bang is said to have happened a long time ago, not something testable like gravity. By the way, not saying it did not happen, however that is the type of logic that you are criticizing.
smittyx3 9 months ago
@smittyx3 Aren't the results of the Big Bang around us even more prominently than gravity? The universe is expanding, time and space was created, matter and anti-matter were introduced in this universe, etc.
And what if - and if I'm not mistaking, it has been done already - we recreate a Big Bang (on a small scale)? If the results of that experiment, make sense when compared to what this universe is (doing), would that prove it?
5THunderlord 9 months ago
@5THunderlord If we could re-create the big bang, we could create life, which has never been done. Possibly a similarity but not the exact big bang on a smaller scale.
smittyx3 9 months ago
@smittyx3 You'd have to let it "settle" for a loooooong time before any life started to appear (that is if the pogression of time in that small universe is related to ours).
5THunderlord 9 months ago
Nothing did not create nothing.
Look up string theory. I am only 13, yet even i am intelligent enough to understand the universe was created by energy.
Religion was first used 10,000 years ago to explain things. NOW WE HAVE SCIENCE, WE CAN SEE THE INNERMOST STRUCTURES OF OUR BODY, WE CAN SEE EVIDENCE OF THE BIG BANG!
And also, if god can just ''exist'' why cant energy and matter?
0ggabOgga 9 months ago
@0ggabOgga You might be asking the question: "What was there before the Big Bang?" The problem with this question, is that time itself only existed from the moment the Big Bang occured. What caused the Big Bang has to be higher-demensional (such as the super-strings vibrating in the 10th or 11th dimension)... if you claim that nothing can't create anything.
5THunderlord 9 months ago
@5THunderlord
Sure, But....
Answer my question.
If god can exist forever, why cannot energy? Energy can create matter, that has been proven.
And if there was neither time nor space, how would something like god exist? For in your logic, energy does not exist?
Also, even i believe some aspects of the big bang theory are wrong. BUT we can see evidence of the big bang. Some light takes quadrillions of years to reach your eye. Therefore, hubble telescope can see light from the big bang.
0ggabOgga 9 months ago
@0ggabOgga Wait wait, I think there's a misunderstanding here. When have I ever claimed that a god/God exists, let alone forever? The "RE:" in the title of the video stands for "Response:".
I'm well aware of the fact that energy and matter are interchangable.
I'm also aware of the fact that looking in the distance is actually looking in the past. What are you trying to prove?
5THunderlord 9 months ago
@5THunderlord
CRAPS!
I searched the title up, and none allowed comments, so i went to this one.
0ggabOgga 9 months ago
@0ggabOgga Yeah, the reason I made this response is because the creator of the video - this video is a response to - didn't allow comments.
5THunderlord 9 months ago
GOD is alien!
Angles are aliens!
Anything we can't explain are ALIENS!
llnetbeast 10 months ago
@llnetbeast
We can explain it, but yes, i too belive there are aliens, but these did not creater the universe
0ggabOgga 9 months ago
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@0ggabOgga "We can explain it, but yes, i too belive there are aliens, but these did not creater the universe"
If you believe there is a God and aliens...do you think aliens believe in your God? I doubt aliens believe in the same God you do. Just look at how many religions are on earth...imagine how many more religions will there be in the whole universe all together?
llnetbeast 8 months ago
oh and did u guys forget that the definition of divine, paranormal, supernatural etc. means can not b explained by science, its sumthin beyond our intelligence. the problem with mankind is that its tries 2 know EVRYTHING when it will never know all, there are just things that were not meant to know.
13LuciusArchangel 11 months ago
everyone its as easy as this. God said to have created the earth. it is said he created it in what like a few days? and according to the bible, the earth is only a couple thousand years old (6000 i beleive). science and our general knowledge has proved that the earth is actually THOUSANDS OF MILLIONS years old. there, done. if it is that badly off and wrong about the age of the earth, how can you give credit to anything else it says.
markfrosty10 11 months ago
Part 2 But wait, then how do you know somebody made it? If you've never seen the person who made it, how do you know somebody designed it and put it all together. I am far more complex than a computer (which took planning and designing to be made) and you are trying to tell me that nobody designed me? Just because you can't see god doesn't mean he doesn't exist
PencilO11 1 year ago
For those who don't believe there was a creator who planned and designed the earth let me give you an example. Look at your computer, did somebody make that computer? Did somebody design it? You will most likely say yes. Ok do you know who made the computer or who designed it? Have you seen the creator of the computer? Did you watch him design it and put it all together? No.
PencilO11 1 year ago
was the law of probability at work. So before either of you morons, whether Christian or Atheist, start claiming there is PROOF, PLEASE.....consider the logical fallacy of that move....There. I'm done ranting.
vendo233 1 year ago
And Christians, stop claiming scientific discoveries are miracles of God. That pisses me off. Your mindset is to believe the Bible, and that it must be true because they contain moral truths that have withstood thousands of years. You have welcomed scientific discoveries throughout history by stoning revolutionaries, thinking that your God knows best, and that change is bad. So now, in the modern ages, you say "God cured his cancer! It's a miracle!" when all you saw *CONTINUED2*
vendo233 1 year ago
There is no evidence to support the existence of God. There is no evidence to support the NON-existence of God. We don't know yet. NO ONE DOES. Atheists, you are just as retarded as Christians. Christians believe in that which hasn't been proven, and you believe that it CANT be proven. Both of your viewpoints are based on BELIEFS. Atheists, how the hell can you rely on science and fact when you actually rely on beliefs? *CONTINUED*
vendo233 1 year ago
ok so if 10th dimension is the source...where did the 10th dimension come from???
garizable 1 year ago
PEOPLE WHO DON'T BELIEVE THAT GOD EXISTS ARE WORSE THAN THE DEVIL,
BECAUSE SATAN HIMSELF KNOWS THERE IS GOD!
30cuteforever 1 year ago
@30cuteforever PEOPLE WHO DON'T BELIEVE THAT THE FLYING SPAGHETTI MONSTER EXISTS ARE WORSE THAN THE SEWER-SHARK,
BECAUSE SEWER-SHARK HIMSELF KNOWS THERE IS FLYING SPAGHETTI MONSTER!
P.S.: Your channel states: "I can say that I am kindhearted and a cheerful person.. n_n". I'd consider reviewing that statement.
5THunderlord 1 year ago
@5THunderlord Say I was wondering if you've seen this argument before:
1.) The wave-function of the universe is self-collapsing. (true by definition)
2.) Self-collapsing wave-functions are minds. (Roger Penrose's Orch-OR model)
Therefore the wave-function of the universe is a Mind: watch?v=Kj8UdHuP5l8
JohananRaatz 1 year ago
@JohananRaatz I hadn't heard of this model before you posted it here. I watched part 1 of the video and read some articles on the model mentioned above.
The model seems interesting, but if it turned out to be true, I think that both you and the author of the video deduct incorrect things from this. From what I understand, the model doesn't say wave-functions are minds. It says consciousness is a result of the uncertain state of electrons (and nucleus'.)
5THunderlord 1 year ago
@JohananRaatz Also, you talk about this "monoism". I don't understand how you could state that as a truth. "Dualism creates unherent contradictions"? I don't see the contradiction.
I'm a materialist myself, but I don't think everything consist of 1 "thing". And if it would, this "thing" would be energy. Since that's what the superstrings use to influence these dimension (string theory).
P.S.: Didn't notice you were the author of the vid until now.
5THunderlord 1 year ago
@JohananRaatz And regarding your question: "How was the very first wave-function collapsed?"
This is a problem many people adress, though likely in another conext. This is how I describe the problem regarding the Big Bang:
"So how did the first wave of probablitity collapse (and thus creating space and time for anything to live in) if there was no quantum obsever to make it do so?"
The reply: there is no need for an observer to be there in the first place.
5THunderlord 1 year ago
@JohananRaatz Because when there's the possibility of an observer (which is not guaranteed for every universe in the multiverse), this possibility takes place in one of the timelines that follows from this Big Bang (Many worlds theory). This "creates" the obsever, so he can collapse his own wavefuntions into the history of "his" universe up to that point in (the elapsed) time.
5THunderlord 1 year ago
@30cuteforever AMEN TO THAT BROTHER THEY ARE WORSE THAN THE DEVIL !!WAT A PITIFUL PEOPLE NOT BELIEVING THAT GOD EXISTS.ONE DAY BRO THEY WILL SEE THE POWER OF OUR GOD, WHEN THE END TIMES COME AND THEY WILL TREMBLE..
MrTagheur 1 year ago
@MrTagheur
Fine with me, but if so then you people are worse than the supposed god you worship (and that's saying something, 'cause he's the most evil, sick, twisted, vindictive, drunk with blood, short sighted, unreasonable and incompetent character in your fairy tale book).
Also had a quick look at your channel and some of your responses, DAMN that christian love is just so... non-existant.
I swear, some religitards are just sickening.
Religion needs to die, either on it's own or forcefully.
Seymour13 1 year ago
@30cuteforever satan doesnt exist either
rowanewiets 1 year ago
GOD IS DEAD
johnwaynegacy94 1 year ago
@johnwaynegacy94 More than dead, he is NOT
tallliza 1 year ago
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Common man`s reasons why god does not exist A) total absence from from natural events, No sig of a god before, during or after natural events. B)The total absence of favoritism towards believers. Even church steeples need lightning rods for protection against god.C) The absence of any reaction, when crimes are committed in his name. D) The suffering of the innocent. One could accept suffering of the guilty, but little children
lizazoon 1 year ago
I sent the guy who made the video about god existing a message, it said:
in one of your video you give some points about how god exist but you said there was nothing at one time and nothing can make nothing,
MrKilr0y 1 year ago
but you said energy is eternal meaning that there is no beginning or and meaning energy existed so there was never nothing, and quantum physics proves that particles can appear in space and time and after build up of particles in space high speed collisions of particles and reactions can begin to create things and rip holes in space-time continuum creating more and more advanced things which would then begin to shape out planets and suns etc.
MrKilr0y 1 year ago
and the reason things have complex features and shapes are the laws that come from energy, for example gravity causes other elements and planets to be forced in a direction because of it and other energy in the universe can shape the entities floating in space, not an ingenious mind, and if there was an ingenious mind, or god creating all of this how does the living entity live and can not be seen heard or sensed in any way?
MrKilr0y 1 year ago
a lot of people think that god doesn't exist because they expect the Christian god to be like every other god. They think that all gods would just make the world with their magical powers. But, they can see the world is not magic, but it's science. But, the God i know, actually created science itself. He deliberately made the world that way, so people can see how complex the world, and so people can realise that an intelligent being created everything.
Look at different perspectives people!
ComputerGuy4067 1 year ago
LAUGHING!!! No one can know how many dimensions there are since we can only see 3 and DETECT only 3...So already here your theory fails...And everything your video says are just theories nothing more.None of the facts you stated is not proven and you wrote it's unreasonable to ASSUME :) I can assume i'm a crocodile in 5th multiverse 11th dimesnion but that does not prove anything especially in scientific way. ...Staying atheist...
oggisimus1 1 year ago
@oggisimus1 I do understand your [insert appropriate word here]. However, look at the date of this video: it was posted over 2 years ago. I was 14...
What I say might be mere theories, but you're wrong on the 3 dimensions. We can clearly see the effects of the 4th dimension (which is duration (often called "time")). If there were only 3 dimensions, you'd be stuck in place, as you're defined in only 3 dimensions and not in an extra dimension, allowing you to move.
5THunderlord 1 year ago
@5THunderlord I'm not saying only 3 dimensions exist...I said we can only detect 3 (because you can't see 4th or imagine how would an object look like in 4 dimension) and no one can know how many are out there (because you specificly said 11th dimension).
oggisimus1 1 year ago
@oggisimus1 I can perfectly imagine how 4D objects look like. 5D objects is another story though...
The philosophical path I follow ends in 10 or 11 dimens (there it hits a roadblock). This is mathematically possible. But I know that our maths also work in more dimens (16 is one of those, if I'm not mistaking; The M-model?)
5THunderlord 1 year ago
@5THunderlord nah m8 you can't see how a 4D object looks like we can only it's 3D shadow...It's not possible for us to see 4th (5th-6th etc.) dimension with our eyes... Only thing we can do is as you say imagine and that is it...But i'm going to be honest with you and say i'm not very well informed in this topic so do not take my opinion as my final claim,i'm just starting to look into this so i really appreciate your comments and thoughts...Very interested in scientifically way...
oggisimus1 1 year ago
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@5THunderlord nah m8 you can't see how a 4D object looks like we can only it's 3D shadow...It's not possible for us to see 4th (5th-6th etc.) dimension with our eyes... Only thing we can do is as you say imagine and that is it...But i'm going to be honest with you and say i'm not very well informed in this topic so do not take my opinion as my final claim,i'm just starting to look into this so i really appreciate your comments and thoughts...Very interested in scientifically way...
oggisimus1 1 year ago
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@oggisimus1
scientists have proven there are other dimensions, just because you cant see it doesnt make it not exist, we can only see it because we are in a 3d world, lets say we were in a 2d world and everything inside was 2d and a 3d object passed through the 2d plane, entities in the 2d plane can only see the space taken up in their 2d world, so if a shpere passed through you culd only see a circle gradually getting larger as it passed through(because at the center is bigger).
MrKilr0y 1 year ago
Four reasons why I think there is no god; A) Total absence from the natural world. No sign of a god, before, during or after, natural disastres B) The absolute absence of favoritism towards believers. Even chruches need lightning-rods to protect them from god. C) The absence of any reaction, when crimes are committed in his name. C) The suffering of the innocent. One could accept that the guilty must suffer, but children ???
lizazoon 1 year ago
waaaahahahahaha....
the only thing religious idiots can do is talking bullshit and manipulate words......
there is nothing...
robot014 1 year ago
@robot014 that's what atheists does, we just tell you how it is and most of you don't care for the truth so you twist God's word into something that is cruel and evil... there's no portrayal of God in the bible as a cruel being or even evil... that's atheists imagination
princeztrouble 1 year ago
@princeztrouble God's moral standards? No thanks! Look at how God rewards child sacrifice for Jephthah, how he arranges the killing of Job's beloved children just because Job trusted God, how God commands his people to rip little girls from the bloody arms of their murdered mothers and take them home to share with YHVH's priests, how he approves of public rape to punish people. Look at the command to practice ritualized cannibalism! What a wonderful pattern for morality!
lizazoon 1 year ago
@lizazoon typical atheist
princeztrouble 1 year ago
Super strings vibrating in the 10th dimension? Are you out of your f-cking mind..?
ClythiaMystica 1 year ago
LMAO! seriously? u gotta be kidding me...
i love physics... but i dont believe in SHIT that it says about the world..
and if there is NO God, and the Bible is JUST A BOOK!! then how come it relates to ALL OF OUR LIVES!! remember this was written hundreds of yrs ago.. yet it predicts the future and for every question u have about life, theres an answer in there... so how can u tell me that there's NO GOD?
princeztrouble 1 year ago
@princeztrouble the bible is just a book. written by men to artificially enhance the churches power. the bible doesn't predict the future or answer every question. it contains storys with such vague writing that the only reason that people think it predicts the future is because dimwits like you find something you don't understand in life so you look in your holy book and find some vague story that barely relates to what happened but you take it as fact. face it, faith is an infantile belief.
deadmoron1 1 year ago
@deadmoron1 so saying that there's Judgment Day, so i guess that's not predicting the future... it's really ignorant of atheists to think or assume that all Christians are unintelligent, just because they believe in God... well it really doesn't bug me since you don't even know me... but one day we both will find out what happens after death, and since i'm right, and i am going to heaven and you might not, so i'm gonna pray for you, have a good day sir... God Bless!
princeztrouble 1 year ago
@princeztrouble you can't take the story of the judgement day and use it as proof of "predicting the future" when it has yet to happen, meaning that there is nothing supporting the idea that it predicts the future. and just for the record, i'm not assuming that you are both unintelligent and ignorant for simply believing in a god, i'm calling you ignorant because you have shown yourself as ignorant. you can't just say that you are right and make it true, you need evidence
deadmoron1 1 year ago
@princeztrouble After you die, will find out nothing. The dead don`t talk,see or hear. Your prayer is welcome, but I would appreciate it more, if you would open a science book for a change.
lizazoon 1 year ago
@lizazoon and how are you so sure that i don't open a science book... you are making assumptions about me when you don't even know who i am and you are making assumption about a God that you barely even know...
princeztrouble 1 year ago
@princeztrouble And you make silly assumptions about my knowledge of the bible. I do hope that you will study your bible as much as I did, maybe you will then loose your faith too.
lizazoon 1 year ago
@lizazoon guess your faith wasn't strong as mine... it is clearly stated in the Bible that if you don't read it with an open mind and faith you will never understand it... you have to be willing to let God guide you..
princeztrouble 1 year ago
@princeztrouble Good luck man. Sooner or later reality will set-in. Mother Theresa doubted her faith in the end, so did a few popes. This imaginary being will one day stop providing inspiration.
lizazoon 1 year ago
@princeztrouble The bible does no more predict the future as Ali Baba does. That`s just your imagination.
lizazoon 1 year ago
@lizazoon yeah clearly God's word are an imagination even though it is written in a scared book... and is believed by people all over the world
princeztrouble 1 year ago
@princeztrouble The O.T. is the most exhalted accumulation of nonsense ever assembled by man.
lizazoon 1 year ago
@princeztrouble Ezekiel 23:19-20 NET
Yet she increased her prostitution, remembering the days of her youth when she engaged in prostitution in the land of Egypt. She lusted after their genitals as large as those of donkeys, and their seminal emission was as strong as that of stallions.
lizazoon 1 year ago
WOW u freaking atheist u guyz are probably retarded or just so stupid.
TOXIN0PAT 1 year ago
@TOXIN0PAT Uhm... tautology?
5THunderlord 1 year ago
@TOXIN0PAT irony, how i love you.
deadmoron1 1 year ago
@TOXIN0PAT trolololol
bananasandicecream 1 year ago
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@TOXIN0PAT If your neighbours work on Saturday, kill them.
If your child throws oatmeal at you, kill him.
If your mom plants corn and pumpkins in the same field, kill her.
If your sister has premarital sex, kill her
(but don't think twice about her sex partner).
If the folks in the next town aren't Christians,
kill them all and take their baby girls home for sex slaves.
It's all there, advice for a perfect life.
lizazoon 1 year ago
@TOXIN0PAT@TOXIN0PAT
I dont want to offend anyone, i have nothing against the belief of god or any religion but you call people stupid yet you believe in a guy that no one can sense in any way who made everything.
MrKilr0y 1 year ago
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If atoms exists they had to be created from something, the big bang exists, someone or something had to create the atoms from which we came. what came first the chicken or the egg? Or atoms and creation or nothing? if something existed before the ultimate big bang how was it placed there? Creation had to begain somewhere. Although there is no proof of what anyone thinks I tend to disagree that atheists seem to think that they have proof of where we came from.
nellyr06 1 year ago
@nellyr06 Atoms (in the most common form) consist of elektrons, neutrons and protons. Neutrons contain 2 down-quarks and 1 up-quark. Protons contant 2 up-quarks and 1 down-quark. The egg was first, since the chicken mutated from a dinsasour --> the egg held an embryo of a chicken. The big bang has very likely occured in this universe. But it's your right to deny all this, though I think it would be the same as denying the existence of, fire (when the first person who saw it, told you about it).
5THunderlord 1 year ago
There is an constradiction in the following statement: "The energy always existed" ; the energy concept is "the capacity for making an work", in the begining there had not potential differences; therefore, there had not energy, the energy didn`t existed because according the "bigbang theory" the universe was concentrated inside an infinitely tiny point. Note: I use normal english; do not use phrasal verb, or dialectical sentences if you feel like discussing with me, please.
Leivinn20 1 year ago
@Leivinn20 That infitely tiny point held a lot of matter and antimatter at a high pressure and temperature. So there was a lot of energy there, at that time: you can make heat and matter "work". I could argue that the energy came from a higher dimension, but that would be contradicting the law of constant energy (if that's the correct name for it).
This is going towards the "what was before the big-bang" discussion. I'm not sure what to say to. I see your point though.
5THunderlord 1 year ago
@5THunderlord : But, «where» was the potential difference?, how it took «place»?, if the space didn`t existed. According the "Bigbang Theory" all (matter, space, and time) was concentrated in an very tiny point without differences. Thanks for using normal english; I guess you are from northamerican.
Leivinn20 1 year ago
@Leivinn20 There are hypotheses about the "disrupting" of the balance. There is this theoritcal particle that can switch between matter and anti-matter state, but has more "problems" while changing to anti-matter than vise versa. The energy came from the anhilation of matter and anti-matter in equal numbers (cfr. Einstein). The potential to change was in the matter all along. If there wasn't any potentional in it, would we exist (assuming the theory is correct)?
P.S.: I'm from Europe.
5THunderlord 1 year ago
@5THunderlord: by the way, excuse me by grammatical mistakes, it`s common problem of the intermediate level bilingual people. We frequently confuse the grammatical rulers of both languages. I will reply soon your questions. Have nice day. Ok, God bless Europe. I am from Venezuela (I dislike emigrate, Europe is for the European)
Leivinn20 1 year ago
@5THunderlord: consider the following experiment: if we switch on an light source in front of three sensitive devices (sensors), one at the center (in front of light source), one at the left, and one at the right; and then switch on. The result will be all sensors will activate at same time, regardless how long lasted the light. This phenomenon or natural event don´t has natural explaination, however, the light exists. My statment is: God exists, the human mind is not the reality limit.
Leivinn20 1 year ago
@Leivinn20 I'm not sure what you're trying to explain/prove. If all sensors are equal (have equal response time), then I find it logical that (when placed on the edge of a circle and the source is in the center) all 3 activate simulataniously.
v = x/t
so t = x/v
The speed of light in vacuum is constant and the distance is constant. So the time has to be the same.
And regarding your final statement: if God would exist, would be able to comprehend that it's above our comprehension?
5THunderlord 1 year ago
@5THunderlord I think you`re making a description, it`s different to an explaination, I mean, all sensors are activated regardless how long last the light emition. All sensors are activated if even one photon is emited. The question is: how is it possible?, - simple, one light particle can to be in two places at same time. The human mind aren`t the reality limit. The natural phenomenons aren`t usefull for support the statment: "God don`t exists". God can be omnipresent and real.
Leivinn20 1 year ago
@Leivinn20 It is possible that particles are in an "undetermined" state, which allows them to be at multiple places simultaniously (or none at all, depending on how you look at it). It is only when particles are observed, that their state gets fixed. e.g.: the Schrödinger formula discribes an area in which an elektron has x% chance to be (x is freely chosen; higher chance = larger area). Even omnipresence can be described in formulas. So I still don't see your point.
5THunderlord 1 year ago
@5THunderlord: My piont is: the natural laws aren`t usefull for support the idea: God don`t exists. an natural phenomenon never repeats identically. Can the particles reminds all its movements for avoid repeat of one from them?., - absolutely not, the answers in simple: the universe chances by inteligent design (God`s decision). By the way, we are inteligent beings, therefore, we need an universe predictable, your evidence is ciscunstantial.
Leivinn20 1 year ago
@5THunderlord Let me add little more: because a natural phenomenon never repeats itself identically, the probability of occurring of natural event that has never happened is zero. The particles change by inteligent design. Richard Dawkins is wrong, God exists and the probabilities exists too. Your statment: "indeterminated state" is interesting.
Leivinn20 1 year ago
@Leivinn20 Why would a "natural phenomenon" never repeat itself? We know how we can make wood (mainly carbon) burn and turn into CO2. It happens every time we set it on fire. So isn't that "phenomenon" repeating itself over and over? I also don't see why a universe should be predictable to us. As Niels Bohr said: "If quantum mechanics hasn't profoundly shocked you, you haven't understood it yet."
5THunderlord 1 year ago
@5THunderlord If we based on the hipothesis: "We are created beings", - we need an world predictable to avoid the crazy, therefore, your evidence is circunstantial, it is equal regardless the view points. Each leaf on an tree is unique (singular) and unrepeatable. ¿how is this possible?, - the particles don`t has memory, the unique logic answer is: God exists, the Bible`s God is the means where all things exist (Facts 17: 25- 28, quote from apostle Paul in the Athens Areopagus, first century).
Leivinn20 1 year ago
@Leivinn20 Not everything (barely anything) that is writen by the apostles is true. In fact, I know a lot more about the world, than the people who lieved in the first century did. Secondly there is no relation to being created and having (the need for) a predictable world. And how can you say all the leaves are unique? They're made of cells, and cells multiply. They pass their DNA/RNA on to the next one, with slight changes every now and then. But 2 equal cells are eventually unevidable.
5THunderlord 1 year ago
@5THunderlord: Each leaf on a tree is unique as finger prints are unique; no one has discovered two finger prints perfectly equals. Each natural event or phenomenon is singular. The likehood of an unique phenómenon do not exists because never has ocurred and will not repeats. The reality changes by Intelligent design (ID). Look around the stones, screws, peoples, your skin, your relatives, stars and other things. the particles don`t has memory. Bye, God bless you. Thanks a lot. from venezuela.
Leivinn20 1 year ago
@Leivinn20 just thought id point out, the ''unique logic answer'' being god is simply a theory or hipothesis (excuse me for getting the two mixed up, i want the one which is unproven scientificaly) just because the bible says its real doesn't mean it is. There have been multiple occasions where the bible was proved wrong. Also, if that particular bible is right, who's to say the others are wrong?
bananasandicecream 1 year ago
@5THunderlord let me repeat. Richard dawkins is wrong; the likehood calculus isn´t usefull for support the statment "God don`t exists. exists probabilities".
Leivinn20 1 year ago
Unfortunately, I can't take you seriously if you can't do something as simple as spelling something correctly. (undeniable, incredibly, dimensions)
I'm not even going to bother mentioning your grammatical errors.
classicrockrockz 1 year ago
your god is my boo. When I need a good bit of sodomy, jesus comes over and spreads his ass cheeks for me. if he takes it like a man... I sometimes give him a reach-around.
jymbo1969 1 year ago
You will all be punished from straying away the path of the Lord
miguelz234 1 year ago
@miguelz234 I'm a lord myself. Haven't you checked my nickname? =P
5THunderlord 1 year ago
@5THunderlord *shakes head* i will pray for u and everyone else here..
musicluv1122 1 year ago
someone just called atheism a religion but in reality it is the lack or belief in one ... just thought i would mention that
ketchup8490 1 year ago
The problem you got there is that there is no such things like 10th, 8th dimensions etc. it has never been proven scientificaly, it's a fairy tale.the original source of energy can create an infinite amount of energy because it's a source.energy can convert into another type of energy but and it would have to if it didn't gave a source.But a SOURCE of energy doesn't have to convert itself.You atheist are so afraid of having your religion disproven that you are quick and fierce to post videos.
myhood25 2 years ago
@myhood25 It appears that you are misinformed about the scientific method. Pointing out the fact that string theory can not "prove" the origin of energy does not give you license to make any claim you want and proclaim it as a scientific fact. Judging by your abstract of the law of conservation, it is clear that you have no background in science so I don't blame you too much for your naivity to science. Please leave science alone...you might hurt yourself.
carnyzack 1 year ago
you'll all regret of putting away the fact that God exists! and will always exisT!
useurcamera 2 years ago
"1. Something that actually exists; reality; truth.
2. Something known to exist or to have happened.
3. A truth known by actual experience or observation; something known to be true.
4. Something said to be true or supposed to have happened.
5. Law. Often, facts. an actual or alleged event or circumstance, as distinguished from its legal effect or consequence."
Source: dictionary. c o m
Nope, I don't see the existence of a god fitting any of these descriptions.
5THunderlord 2 years ago
its fine if i wasnt able to convince you. at least i tried. :)
useurcamera 2 years ago
@useurcamera dont worry man.. let them believe what i want.... as long as we believe what we do.. we will be saved :)
miguelz234 1 year ago
@miguelz234 these ppl realy dont understand who jesus is
musicluv1122 1 year ago
Wow....I love how starts off his argument in this video with one of the toughest and one of the most unprovable (sp?) theories ever created. Sounds almost like you took God and replaced him with what you THINK happens. Now why is it so hard to believe that a tenth dimension is not part of a design? Why does God have to exist in the physical world? Anyone? Is it because we said so? Well I
ll tell you, the more you realize that God resides outside, the more room for science is made.
Edwardcbiv 2 years ago
Whomever posted this needs to calmly look again at what they are responding to. At about the 45 second mark of your video you state energy existed before the universe. That is what was being stated by the video your commenting on. You agree on that one. Look closer.
zoinioz 2 years ago
Haven't checked, but I certainly don't need to disagree on every aspect some else came up with.
5THunderlord 2 years ago
wow ur reeeeli deluded mayyynn (may god hav mercy on all ov us)
wizardballx14 2 years ago
oops why are ratings disabled??? RETARD
LatestUFOSightings 2 years ago
Because I prefer arguments over a cowardly click on the 1 or 5 stars button.
5THunderlord 2 years ago
I believe we all have this inner desire to feel significant when we correct each other, and in the time we live now, it's a trap we all end up falling into. But I don't think that's any way to be significant. It's the easy way out. I think it's much harder to try to have a real conversation with someone. Do you think there is some way we can talk about the things we believe to be right, instead of what we disagree with?
MikeDecipher 2 years ago
You know, I can't help but think it's my fault; maybe I got a little carried away or something, but I'm getting tired of getting in conversations like these. We disagree and then we try to correct each other.
MikeDecipher 2 years ago
@5THunderlord
It seems that science has a way of explaining things in this world, making them seem insignificant.
'that's just the quantum particles'
'that's just super string vibrations'
'the 10th dimension'
'universe collapsing onto itself'
'the conversion of energy to mass'
Yes, they may all be true, but why would you ever allow this lullaby make you believe that any of these things are either insignificant, purposeless, or sacred from the point of view of life or intelligence?
MikeDecipher 2 years ago
correction*
"Yes they may all be true, but why would you ever allow this lullaby make you to [not]* believe that any of these things are insignificant, purposeless, or sacred from the point of view of life or intelligence."
MikeDecipher 2 years ago
uncorrection*
lol, scratch that correction. (I have a problem with double negatives =P)
The only word that should be changed in my original reply to 5Thunderlord is the word "sacred" to the word "unsacred"
MikeDecipher 2 years ago
god of the gaps logical fallacy.
We cant explain the big bang, therefore god did it.
I cant explain the holes in my swiss cheese, therefore god did it.
zebraone100 2 years ago
The theory of ignorance... what about it?
5THunderlord 2 years ago
Reply @ zebraone100
"god of the gaps is a logical fallacy. We can't explain the big bang, therefore god did it. I can't explain the holes in my swiss cheese, therefore god did it."
We can't explain something, therefore Chance did it.
I can't explain the holes in swiss cheese: Random Mutation.
Why did the coin land on chance: luck.
See? Science has it's extremes to.
MikeDecipher 2 years ago
"...Chance did it"
I love how you creationist always conveniently "forget" the 'non random natural selection' half of the process.
zebraone100 2 years ago
I forget your chance comment. Let me know if and when you want me to reply to it.
MikeDecipher 2 years ago
wait so do u believe in god or not???? ur video was confusing.... u dint really give any good facts. tell me...
yashfernandojain 2 years ago
I was religious for about the first 11 years of my life. But then I started thinking and eventually became a pure atheist.
5THunderlord 2 years ago
ur a faggot saying that god exists to get people to watch then saying all this atheis shit that is bull fucking shit that vid bull shit ur a a coward,deceivng and denying idiot
zomeza12 2 years ago
You're the ignorant one here.
I assume that you're refering to the title of this vid ("RE: GOD EXISTS, ATHEISTS I'll prove it SCIENTIFICALLY").
Well, I haven't writen the part "GOD EXISTS, ATHEISTS I'll prove it SCIENTIFICALLY".
I just added "RE: " to it. Which basically means, for the ignorant ones among us, it is a REply or REsponce to the video with the following name.
Before you start trying to insult ppl, make sure you understand what you're talking about.
5THunderlord 2 years ago
Lol bro you where lost here
Airhyl 2 years ago
"truthhitmanisback" is not only a coward, he (or she) also tends to give very irrelevant information. Please avoid confrontation.
5THunderlord 2 years ago
NO ! I come from the first people to populate the Planet. Without Africans no race would exist. I want to stay alive for as long as I can to fight inJustice. My purpose in life is not to celebrate death, or Korn, or vampires, or Satanic worship, but to fight white supremacy, and meet it head on. lol...
By the why, some people believe in Satanism, yet they foolishly doubt God. lol... They must know that Satan exist, but God is a DON for the boy Satan. He live on lies. Illusion. Fake. lol
truthhitmanisback 2 years ago
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truthhitmanisback 2 years ago
So everything you can, you intend to do? How about starting with suicide then? That looks like a nice point to start, no?
Your last 2 comments just don't make sense. I'm not wasting my time on you anymore.
5THunderlord 2 years ago
Still, Gregor Mendel Smashed Charles Darwin's theory with experimental proof. Im dealing with reality not some theory. That theory was used as an excuse for white supremacy to go in and Kill the American Indians , and then boast about it with pride. They are scared of Mendel because he exposed white supremacy by descovering Genetics. Now DNA has slaughtered it. But because most white people are racist they want to hold on to it, and have the nerve to condem Chistians. lol... This is too easy
truthhitmanisback 2 years ago
I really don't see what Darwin has to do with that so-called "white supremacy". Are you stating here that evolution theory has been developed to "proof" that "white is better than any other color"?
And what's the connection between the fail of religion and racistic ppl? Religion just can't stand with the current amount of knowledge available, what has that got to do with enslaving Indians?
Besides, those crusades weren't too peaceful either.
5THunderlord 2 years ago
lol, don't waste time on him. hes racist.. thats what he is, and he always will be. hes just to stupid to see not all black ppl are bad, and that there are white dumbasses to. so all u have to comment on him is : ,,!,, ò.ó ,,!,, . [for all those dumb racists..: i am white :D]
jellemmv 2 years ago
And you removed one of your comments... Why? I want other ppl to be able to follow this discussion.
Did you do it because you're afraid? That is what I call easy.
5THunderlord 2 years ago
lol.. You may try to sound intelligent but , Just like Charles Darwin, it just a theory that cant be proven scientifically. Gregor Mendel was greater than Darwin. Fact. He is the one who discovered genetics. Your theories spring from him but ya dont know it. What dimension was the spirit in ? You dont know. Period. You may , if you want , come up with another theory. lol...
truthhitmanisback 2 years ago
The evelution theory is nevertheless the best standing theory ever made. There's nothing that can be doubted less. "Greatness" is relative, so you can't claim that a fact... I had never even heard of him. And to answer your question of the spirit: it was in none dimension. As it didn't exist, nor it had to potential to exist (it has no wavefunction).
Lastly, "theory" got the meaning of "wild speculation" by abuse of to ignorant ppl. I use it in its proper meaning.
5THunderlord 2 years ago
@5Thunderlord
Wild speculation... Let me ask you something. If there is a group of people who claim to see something, and you go to see, with your eyes, the very thing they claim to see, and you don't see it, then does that really mean that that particular thing does not exist?
Is your eyes the only way you can perceive the world?
MikeDecipher 2 years ago
"Is your eyes...only way..."
Your question implies that it is OK to perceive the world through somebody else's eyes, which is patently absurd.
Science demands objective evidence. Evidence that is different depending on who is viewing it is not science. Science would have no meaning if it relied on that kind of observation.
zebraone100 2 years ago
I know, I know, I know. Science doesn't want truth; it wants facts.
It is fine that science wants only a certain way to harvest knowledge. But to denying the existence of other knowledge is absurd to, and stubborn.
You also just told me that seeing the world through another perspectives is absurd... You should rethink that =)
MikeDecipher 2 years ago
"just told me-"
'Perspective' is an interesting choice of words as it almost completely transforms the meaning of your post and my response to it. Science demands objective evidence that is consistent across all observers regardless of opinion or desires.
There's nothing wrong with the idea that people have different opinions of the world they live in. Understanding those differences helps us to get along.
These are two very different subjects that you inappropriately twisted together.
zebraone100 2 years ago
Yeah, I know. The different point of view/perspective is a complicated subject to go into. But the reason I decided to add that in there was not to add onto my original message, but to point out that seeing through someone else's eyes seems to be the same as seeing through another perspective.
You should reply to the difference between fact and truth.
MikeDecipher 2 years ago
"fact and truth"
Just a quick analogy:
If Joe tells Jill that he saw a ghost in Seattle on 1 Jan 2000, it would be reasonable for Jill to accept as a truth that he saw a ghost.
But if later on Jill discovers that objective forensic evidence(DNA, video, credit card receipts, etc) places Joe at the scene of a murder in China on that date, Jill must question her original 'truth.'
'Truth,' doesn't require facts in order to be valid, but it cant survive when facts contradict it.
zebraone100 2 years ago
I don't think so about facts and truth. I believe they depend on each other. And I don't think it's really sciences job to refute truths, but rather to confirm them.
But you're right when you say Truths cannot survive when facts contradict it, but I would suspect it's the other way around to. To say Truth and Fact are not interrelated is like saying the left and right brain has no relationship.
MikeDecipher 2 years ago
But I think telling another person that you've seen a Ghost, I think is a matter of fact not truth. The implications that it would imply if it were true would be truth. And I don't think it would be reasonable for Jill to accept the Ghost without investigation, as it is an anomaly to what Man currently knows.
I think this is a case where they should deal with it as a fact before dealing with it as a truth.
MikeDecipher 2 years ago
But you know, I have a question. Some scientists will argue for the objectivity of the world, or physical reality. But how could they, if most of them being relative physicists don't even study the fundamentals of physical reality, the subatomic world?
MikeDecipher 2 years ago
"...subatomic world"
Your argument here boils down to: If we can't know everything, we cant know anything so why bother.
Another analogy: If a person knew nothing about how an internal combustion engine works, it is still useful and practical knowledge (and knowable) to know how to drive a car.
Even if I knew nothing about subatomic particles, it is still useful (and knowable) to know the characteristics of a ball rolling down a hill.
zebraone100 2 years ago
@your analogy
Well, yes it's useful. And you make a good point. I want you to know I acknowledge that. But my argument is never the acceptance of either knowing everything or knowing nothing at all. I think some scientists err on the side of knowing everything, and I think that religion errs on the other, so they proceed to make assumptions. My argument is always a balance between 2 sides. So in this, it would be a case of knowing enough; and still in after, being humble to the possibility.
MikeDecipher 2 years ago
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MikeDecipher 2 years ago
@your analogy again
I really have to say something though. I happened to think about your analogy when I was reading up on the subject of NCC (neural-correlates to consciousness), and it suddenly hit me.
There is a completely other side to the analogy you presented, and it has to do with consciousness.
MikeDecipher 2 years ago