You have remember that there might be a bad sheep in the flock, but it doesn't mean that all JW's are all bad people. There alot of things that agree with them on.
While I applaud your efforts and found your testimony very fascinating I was just curious are the kingdom halls considered privet property? I mean I am so not siding with them at all but from a technical standpoint couldn't they have charged you with trespassing if that were true? Just wondering. Once again great video and interesting story.
hey look it just seems like you just came across some stupid people you cant judge a whole religion from your experiences in that congregation don't you think?
MATE I AM AN XJW FOR APPROX 23YRS I STILL HAVE FEAR WHICH I CANT TOTALLY SHIFTITS ALWAYS THERE IN THE BACKGROUND.AS REGARD YOUR PRAVAVO IF ITS TRUE THEY HAVE A MASON CONNECTION RESPECTL IT MAY BE PRUDENT TO RE-EVALUATE YOUR COCK SURENESS BECAUSE IF THERE IS MASON ASSOCIATION I HAVE HAD DEALING WITH THEM MANY EARS AGO AND THERES PROBABLY SOME FILE ON YOU IN A DUSTY ATTIC SOMEWHERE????WHO KNOWS ONLY THOSE THAT FULLFILL THE NEED TOBASIS...????::):
Sounds like you went there in the intent cuase some sort of disruption. You could have talked to those friends and family anywhere but you chose to go somewhere that you dont even what to be at. Sounds to me as if you were doing something hurtfull. I am sure they did not forget about you and possibly what you had done to get yourself dis-fellowshiped. In your case I am sure you know why the "FRIENDS" should not talk to you.
I do not hate you. JSW beliefs are not logical. Example Jesus said "I am" which is name of God in Judaism meaning self existing. Jesus was and is the Son of God being equal of God. Jesus was called Immanuel. If God never changes and Jesus is God, then God is more complex than JSW defination of God.
provebs 3:3 talks about proper conduct that reflects Jehovah God or Jesus: politeness... grace .kindness and good manners.. your facal expression show non social skills.. maybe you had no mother.foolishness you look like a fool..... at least you show no good manners and politeness- no social graces
I think you acted like a fool--What the hell was your point? What in hell did you expect them to do? You were the loser for not leaving--And further more i dont believe you--You added and took away things--I left and didnt make a scene--You just hated to leave--You wanted to stay--Out after 32 years
what about the millions of Christians who have been martyred? Do they not get into heaven but only the 144,000??? I asked a JW that question...he said...I DUNNO...yeah...i guess they dont have math class in the WT group meetings...
============== Why messing up in a contradictory way with changed by JW holly books about Doctrines of Christianity . JW add opinions at sessions of activists , publish non stop a masquerade. JW can not be accepted as a Christian teaching, because do present neglect and distortion damaging JC , telling us are a True belief . Watch Tower Society publications teach that JC returned and rule in heaven as king in October 1914. WE are NOT going to that mud with You, Mister.
How sad. So much bitterness and anger. I returned to Jehovah after 20 years of leaving. wow.. I sure missed the honesty and integrity. Everyone admits they are imperfect and trying. That is the best we can do. I surely do not miss being out lost in this world. My friends were true and my business was great, but it is empty ...bitter... lonely.. scared.. just watch this video if you don't believe me. I am happy to have come back home.
How sad. So much bitterness and anger. I returned to Jehovah after 20 years of leaving. wow.. I sure missed the honesty and integrity. Everyone admits they are imperfect and trying. That is the best we can do. I surely do not miss being out lost in this world. My friends were true and my business was great, but it is empty ...bitter... lonely.. scared.. just watch this video if you don't believe me. I am happy to have come back home.
How sad. So much bitterness and anger. I returned to Jehovah after 20 years of leaving. wow.. I sure missed the honesty and intergrity. Everyone admits they are inperfect and trying. That is the best we can do. I surely do not miss being out lost in this world. My friends were true and my business was great, but it is empty ...bitter... lonely.. scared.. just watch this video if you don't believe me. I am happy to have come back home.
no elder will tell you tha stop acting up pls why do u have so much hate jst remember that jah forgives but also jah is a big good and we dnt have to express about him like ur doing with jahs ppl
Like all cults, the Jehovah's Witness distorts doctrines of Christianity. It denies the deity of Christ, His physical resurrection, and salvation by grace. This alone makes it non-Christian.
@Rouynekov why do people lie about Jehovah's people? They lied about Jesus too. I love Jesus. I know Jesus was resurrected. We have a memorial remembering this event every single year all over the entire world. I am sorry someone lied to you about what we believe.... Jehovah's witnesses believe the Bible about Jesus: John 17:3 This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ
@Rouynekov They don't know it because it is a lie! John 17:3 This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ. Jehovah's Witness have memorials all over the world. Millions attend open invite to the public.. not the definition of a cult. every year specifically because Jesus said to "do this in remembrance of me." don't continue lies and propaganda! It is hitler like.
Why were you there? Just to cause trouble. And really you are making this up. They would never turn out the lights and whatever nonsense your talking about. Your lying. I am calling You a Liar! You Lie! Your just making it up. You put up a video and say its so and you try to make it like it was a real event? Face it Your Liar. You Lie. Admit it. You are making this all up. Yes You Lie just for your own gratification. I do judge You! I will Judge You as a human. And I am here to call you a Liar
4:49 - why is it of interest to you whether it crumbles ? its not ur religion aanymore right? Or do u somehow hope to get back at them by it crumbling?
I used to be a JW. I left after 2 years as I decided it was not a God I knew. My God was love and peace, and I could not not relate to a God of 'excessive discipline'. This talk of wrath etc was confusing to me. However 10 years later, I get it. I committed sinful behaviour that could now by life threatening. I completely understand the need for 'house rules'. Though you don't get the reason for rules, don't rebel. A child don't get why his dad removes the matches it's playin with either
@nevernextdoor1 Please don't turn away just cause you don't understand, i've realized it's like a father taking away the dangerous toy out of his baby's mouth, or locking the cleaning closet from his little daughter to keep from harm, or taking the matches from out of his little boys hands. God protects us even though we think it's unfair. It's an act of Love. When a parent disciplines a child, it's out of love. Find Jesus and follow his 'law'. He's not in the churches tho, u need to pray.
Like all cults, the Jehovah's Witness distorts doctrines of Christianity. It denies the deity of Christ, His physical resurrection, and salvation by grace. This alone makes it non-Christian. To support its erring doctrines, even altered the Bible to make it agree with its changing and non-Christian teach.. Thus, they believe that people cannot come to the knowledge of “the Truth” just by reading the Bible alone.
Заема се да коригира съществуващата доктрина с Watchtower literature.
@Rouynekov read Pagans and Christians by Robin Fox, there are MANY interpretations of Christ and his story. odd but true. to live as JC did many JW's do. we are all people. member of various religions or not. the JW were founded on reading the bible alone as YOU note. odd how people are. but to call one or another a non-christian does you and me no good. be well. JC said let the wheat and the chaf do what they will until the judgement day.
I have been in your shoes .Actually I still am . Thankyou for nameing names even though I know you love these people and hope the best for them. I just lost my father and now I can say anything about this religion.And I will the only reason I held back was because I did not want to hurt him and give him another heart attack
Why stay in the cult if u have realised it is corrupt and full of hatred? u should get out and stay out, and continue to inform people of real watctower cult
@beforethesolstice Hey checked it out :) Woot woot.so glad ur out of the watchtower. its awesome and I still like your facial hair. !!! =_= Ohhh yes I saw your hair now... Guess what?? I still like your facial hair.. Gooo the Mo and hair.. I like.. woot :) ur accent is cool. :) Anywho probably hardcore strange. Im aussie is understandable
@beforethesolstic you should visit some congregations outside of your state because i've never heard of any elder acting this way at least not in my congregation. Not everyone who says their JW is JW. I left the organization when i was 14 for 9 years. I returned a few months ago to the same congregation i left. I was welcomed,never shunned or ignored. Only hugs and conversation,even after speaking about my doubt, and sharing some of the many sins i committed in my absence i was welcomed. Pray
I'm not sure what you proved or were trying to prove? I feel sorry for anyone that has to prove they are worth something to others and brag about something really embarrassing. You got kicked and are wining about it - act like a man for a change.
Hey Korah, I am not a Jehovah's witness however I was raised by a mother who was and a father who is Catholic. I work in a prison and my father has for many years. You are so full of yourself! I have not been treated so well by some elders and even disfellowshiped. However I would never put myself on some stupid video spreading some warped crap that comes from a haughty attitude oh thats right Cain and Satan had one....hum
Im just gonna say this once! You are all Hypocritical idiots who need conviction to feel excistence! I was born into the JW's i left it at 19yrs old I see many of you guys all hurt and weak because u feel u fucked up in life because religion. I have a fucking evangelist friend who also talk about tha same shit as u guys... didnt yous learn anything good from Religion? Be strong, faith in your self? love? how to talk infront of hundreds? if ya didnt than u missed that good stuff.
@gusto1978 Good comment man! Yeah I did learn good things from religion, the very things you mentioned. I would say that love is NOT taught by religion though, only alluded too. They preach love, but practice fear. Going back to the Kingdom Hall to face those who shun you is by no means a weak thing to do though. It helps you while helping others to move on in life from religion.
@beforethesolstice nah man I credit u for facing them I wont discredit you for it.. in fact having balls is what I'm preaching to most of the people that leave not only JW's but any religion... as I said before my evangelist friend also complains on the same thing some of us are talking about here... so it's not only JW's youths but all youths from many other religions. they all smell tha same BS.
@beforethesolstice every thing you said i have lived as well being born into jws. it had huge horrible impacts on me and my family they are a cult other jw please save yourselfs you have it within you.unless you want to be led brainwashed and mentaly spent.confront the faracies!
You seem's very angry and describing your revenge ... have you done something bad that you are trying to justify what you did?
Ok, it seems you are happy now ... why not move on? You still bashing them and that makes you sounds very bitter! But then again you sound so pathetic ... so sad!
don't insult people, by calling them names, just because you don't agree with their religious beliefs, you are giving no evidence to back up your argument, and ur not saying anything but lies and u know it :)
I was freed from this organization's control 20 years ago, and I also disagree with the practice of disfellowshiping ... but what you did was disrespectful. Every organization has the right to set rules for its members, and a mature and compassionate adult respects this right.
Yes!!!!! Make God (Jehovah) your true leader!! They say that they'll study the bible with you, all I ever studied were JW publications. When I asked them why we needed additional literature even though the bible is inspired by God I was told that we needed help understanding the bible. When I then asked that God obviously made a mistake because he DID NOT write the bible for all people they told me that this was "Satan the devil" talking. They are contradicting themselves A LOT!!!!!
Why don't you find a good Apostolic Pentecostal church in your area? There, you will be taught - with love and wisdom and authority through the Word of God (KJV) - the born again experience. If you're serious about knowing God and living in power for Him (Acts 2), then do what I respectfully recommend. This will be a life-changing experience for you!!
Wow! I love you man! I'm in Baton Rouge. I haven't set foot in a Kingdom Hall since I was 17 (my mother STILL tries to convince me to go to Memorials!). I wish I had the will to go into a KH and do just what you've done! I just got sick of it! I thank the JW's for turning me to atheism! I'm WAY more enlightened than I ever could have been if I was part of a more mainstream sect! Awesome vid! Thanx!
@fishdog666 I agree with you on the JW's turning you onto atheism and enlightenment. It at least made us think about religion MUCH harder than your average churchgoer. And you keep going further down the rabbit hole usually. Haha. Thanks for watching my video man! Oh and thanks for not simply joining another lame religion.
@fishdog666 IM SORRY THAT UR AN ATHESIT NOW AND THATS UNDERSTANDABLE BUT DONT LET THE JW DISCOURAGE YOU.. YOU DONT HAVE TO BE PART OF A RELIGION BUT HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD... I HOPE SOMEDAY YOU FIND UR WAY... ASK GOD TO HELP YOU AND SHOW U THE RIGHT DIRECTION. KEEP SEARCHING YOULL KNOW WHATS RIGHT JUST LIKE YOU KNEW WHAT WAS NOT. DONT GIVE UP I KNOW HOW YOU FEEL
@miamibabii77 I'm perfectly happy as an atheist. I know I can live a life without servitude to a being who's existence cannot be proved. I live for me, my family and my friends. I don't feel a need to please anyone else. I'm truly content living this life as well as I possibly can, for I know the only chance I'll get. It may sound bleak to a Christian, but it's very freeing once you've broken the chains of guilt (for simply being born of human "sin") and slavery to and invisible ruler.
Shouldn't have played up as disfellowship is for unrepentant sin, so ask yourself what you did wrong, ask for an explanation and if fed up of being shunned make a return. Problem is your rant is like apostacy and if you don't get it you shouldn't have got basptised if ever you were??? Look on the bright side, its nearly the end of the system and no one can hear you moan when dead.
@khakistarfish The problem with JW baptism is that kids are pushed to be baptized at 12 or 13, WAAAAYYY before they're mature enough to make that sort of life decision! I was a party to the same treatment. Your parents MAKE you get baptized!
I agree that we must follow god.However,we should also not follow men with false prophesies and false teachings(such as no beards,no birthdays etc-where in the bible does it say you will loose salvation because of this?) including the New World Translation Bible which is not an accurate translation of gods word.
One thing I will say is, Islam does have bad people in it, however the religion itself has a truthful and strong foundation. Therefore the Religion is perfect. What I noticed about Christianity is that the foundation is not 100% truthful, making its product uncertain. "You can't pour water through a dirty pipe and get clean water out the other end." This is why we have these questions they cannot answer. The foundation is not sturdy. I mean no disrespect. Peace be with you.
I studied with the JW for two years and I had still so many questions. So, I undersand how you guys feel. I became a Muslim a year ago and will never turn back. In my time with my Muslim brothers, I have learned so much about the true religion. Islam is it. And guess what? Those questions you guys seek, they have no problem answering them. I just hope that your moral compass is not out-of-wack. I urge you to not believe the hype they have on the news about Islam. CONT...
1st of all JW is not a cult!! We don't worship Satan don't even have scultures! Get ur research gd cus thts wat ur doin u were never 1of them. God bless u
JW's ARE a cult.The definition of a cult is an organisation that punishes you if you leave it by excommunication- that is,you are not allowed contact with previous friends/members or even if you try,they are encouraged to ignore you..
Hello my friend, i'm from Brazil my english is not so good, but i would like to say i'm with you. I decided to demand some answers to some important questions regarding the governing body and the society polices from the elderls of my congregation. I did that though a letter adressed to the elders, and in this letter i said they would be alowed to convert it into a dissociation letter if they could not answer my questions, or if they prefer to avoid to answer them. And it was what they have done
We need more video like this to show what kind of religion these people are..I'm so glad i never became one of them..Always preaching about the end is coming to scare people into there religion..What a shame!!!!
Even after what happened please try your best to please Jehovah not the people who are ignorant about justice, love, power and wisdom. We are all responsible to Jehovah with our actions. I believe you still love Jehovah because he is the only true God and no one else.
Satan is using everyone of us to fight with ourselves and our brother and sister. He use our emotions to hate one another. But you know, in the new order there will be no negative emotions that eat all of us. All I can say is make Jehovah your stronghold. Never mind imperfect people around us. Keep praying, I can see that you are very angry, for this reason you have post this video at youtube. I believe that you love Jehovah no matter what. Jehovah knows that.
@babiiandie The fact that these congreations are falling apart has nothing to do with Satan. The cause of all of this in the internet where more accurate information about the world and WTS is available. As a former witness I can say that you people are completely out of the touch with the real world. Not everything can blamed on t his imaginary Satan. Who would want to worship a god that gets his kicks off of murdering innocent people anyway?
@MrJpn1996 Well excuse me for only being 15 , and this being the only religion i've known . And for your information , we are not out of touch with the real world . Get your facts straight .
@babiiandie How sad. So much bitterness and anger. I returned to Jehovah after 20 years of leaving. wow.. I sure missed the honesty and integrity. Everyone admits they are imperfect and trying. That is the best we can do. I surely do not miss being out lost in this world. My friends were true and my business was great, but it is empty ...bitter... lonely.. scared.. just watch this video if you don't believe me. I am happy to have come back home.
Well. serve Jehovah not the elder. Elders are imperfect people like all of us. Jehovah is the one we are serving not them. Pray to Jehovah all the time. Satan is using everything to weaken our faith. Find some congregation that will treat you with respect like Jehovah
Well I'm really sorry this happened to you. Your not crazy I went to south (mom still does) and I know how they get down. I went to the memorial recently and they looked at me like i've I was beneath them. I'm not even disfellowshiped! Just inactive. I have friends from covingtion congregation and conyers, morrow etc.so I'm sure I know alot of people you are talking about. I like your band by the way!
@geishagrrl24 Yeah that's the way it is. So you have friends from Covington and Conyers too! Wow. I know people from there also. I grew up in the McDonough KH before the split into Stkbg and McD congreahtions. I then moved to Covington with my family and went to the Covington Hall. It seems like I am related to %25 of the congregations in McD and Stkbg, but not anyone in Cov. and Cnyrs. I am sure I know you too! About my band, thanks!
@HardbeatAcolyte No, it actually is true. =/ Jehovah's Witness can have facial hair when it comes to small sideburns and mustaches, but beards aren't allowed.
Hey, I'm a Jehovah's Witness and, I just wanted to let you know that you are loved and forgiven, and also, I think it would be in your best interest if you begin seeing a psychiatrist... Good luck with everything, I'm keeping you in my prayers.
If you were going to upload this video, why not you just recorded all the things you are talking about? Because if there is not prove, for any wise person it is just blah blah blah, blah.
Why are you so full of hate? Le they be!
Are you doing all these videos this just because you were expelled from their religion? Overcome this sheet of your life, if you have one other than express you anger to the Wittness. And if you feel betreyed or abused, learn some from Jesus, and forgive them.
@GUALHERO If I were to bring a video camera then I would clearly be there just trying to get some dirt on them. I am there to help them, and re-unite with them. I have many relatives and dear friends in the religion. Not every congregation acted like this one. It is rude to ask a man to leave a Kingdom Hall because he was talking to members of the congregation. I just told him I wasn't leaving unless he could state from the scriptures why I had to leave. He said he wouldn't do that.
You sound hella evil. You would of been great friends with the snake in the garden. I think you have mental issues dude. If you don't wanna go back why do you demand attention? Oh what I know why! It is like the dude that shot the Congresswoman. You live in your own perfect world...You are your own enemy, your own god, your own destruction...If Jehovah witnesses want to live like that it isn't your business. You are not bound to go there...
Are you on crack dude? My wife is df'd, and when she goes to the memorial they are nothing short of loving and supportive. The thing people tend to forget is that people are df'd for doing things against their teachings. Is that so wrong? You know the consequences of your actions. I myself dont agree with their teachings but I do have respect for them. Its no different then getting fired from a job because you went against their guidelines. Dont be ignorant.
do you know why someone gets disfellowshipped? as a witness that has been disfellowshipped and has been around the truth and have travelled to many different kingdom halls, its fun to listen you your fairy tale of a story. every thing you said. (well some of your names and meeting lingo) just sounds like a child blowing up a story to make it sound like its a drama. and fyi, if your Df'd, you can go to meetings. but it all goes back to my question that i asked you. hope to hear an answer.
@echelonarmy1 Turning lights out and locking doors is more than drama. And yes I know that you can go to meetings df'ed. But if you talk to people around you there, then this scenario can happen. I forgot your question though. I get a lot of posts on here, and have a busy life, so I can't always get back to everyone. By the way, when you were df'ed what would have happened had you decided to start talking to the friends anyway before and after the meetings?
@beforethesolstice see thats where i know more about you. as df'd i know what are the guide lines that df'd come with it sounds harsh but its more for discipline for acting sinful. if you have been a witness, you should know that if you are repentive and show your faith, than you ARE welcomed back and, as you like to call shun, over. i saw my fam & friends every day and sucked to not communicate w/them but i know i was in the wrong and took this as discipline. im back and happy.
Wow you sound tough. But you aint Jesus. Dude. You sound like a fool,because you think you proved something and you loved the mayhan. Just like Satan and thats why they did not want you in there. And you did cause a rukus because you went in there to cause trouble.But jehova will stop you thats for sure.And you are telling here say because you are the only one talking.
Good man, I've been reading up on jw's today and good on you for getting out of that corporate cult. I really feel sorry for the people who are "trapped" in to this farse.
Hahahaha you made the biggest mistake in leaving the organization. I also did, Coz I didn't accept their counsel towards me about my violent nature.
But with that being said, I am trying my hardest to get back in the truth and the elders can see I am.
The truth is the best thing that ever happened in my life, leaving it was the worst. Jehovah always finds a way to cleanse his congregations, and you... "brother"... Are a maaaasssive loser.
You talk with pride and you don't show any sense of hum
@Comp1337e Yes. Even when I styled myself an atheist, I sensed that there were things going on around us that were of a "spiritual" or different nature. But what I believe is not that important really, because I am just a man learning in space and time and my thoughts change. I address my videos to people in general who were once JW's regardless of their worldview now. That being said I do not attend or support any religion whatsoever.
@beforethesolstice You know what helped me stop sitting on the fence about this issue, if there is a god or no god? It was reading Richard Dawkins's book The God Delusion. I feel for you. It took time for me to realize this.
I want to start attending meetings again just to see how I would take what is being taught, now that I have a different worldview. Should be interesting. I don't want to be shunned either, so I will not reveal my lack of belief in a god.
@Comp1337e I have actually read a chapter or two of The God Delusion. I agree with his conclusions, and actually thought a lot of the things he said well before I read the book. I think everybody should consider all things to have a broad view of our world. The way I see God is similar to Star Wars. I am trying to develop both the dark side and the light. Annakin is the one who balanced the powers of the force ya know. Lol.
@beforethesolstice That's good to hear. I agree. This is a big decision in life. It's always good to weigh both sides of the story. I would recommend you reading more than the few chapters that you did. Perhaps you have missed many assumed points that you think are in there, that could possibly be the final "nails in the coffin", so to speak, of a belief in a possible god. or gods.
Separate subject: Have you been able to keep your friends from the congregation?
dude i see why you got desfellowshped there are plenty of scriptures that talk about being desfellowshiped JOHN 16:2 and another that i forgot.just remember that we dont care if you got desfellowshiped some brother and sisters i want the to come back because they fallow derections and they get reinstated but you can keep being an apostate. your never gonna make it back that way. your considered bad associations i would of done the same thing if i was the elders and kicked u out.
beforethesolstice: I concur with your last post and I enjoyed the exchange of views. Where two people agree on all points every time, only one is doing the thinking. Before I close here, let me leave you with some food for thought.
It is wrong to centre complete devotion on any human person. Only God, that which is of unconditioned value, is worthy of total submission. To identify any finite thing, whether a person or a book, solely and completely with the infinite God, is idolatry.
beforethesolstice: Let me say that the long hair issue was just my reaction to your point by my presenting a different view. It's no big deal. In fact, I take the biblical texts as expressions of belief, which may, to an indeterminate degree be metaphorical, allegorical or mythopic (expressing inner spiritual relationships in an objective, physical and cosmically grandiloquent form).
indeed, i believe it is dangerous to believe that one has a guaranteed truth in some ancient document.
@TheEnlightened77 Alright. I'm glad to hear that man. That's exactly how I feel about things too. We may have been judging one another as ignorant or as doctrine pushers. This is a good end to a worthy debate. I will check out the evidence provided that Jesus did not have a beard or long hair. You think about things deeper than most people I talk to on here, and have at least researched stuff on your on. I think that we are both pretty honest people. Take care man.
beforethesolstice "My statements clearly stated that YHWH is not a combination of the hebrew word for Lord and God, namely Elohim and Adonai."
Agreed. But if my memory serves me, focus was placed on the artificial name"Jehovah" which is a combination of the consonants of JHVH and the vowels of Adonai (Lord) and Elohim (God).
German painter, L. Fahrenkrog, says, "Christ certainly never wore a beard, and His hair was beyond a doubt a closely cut. For this we have historical proof." The oldest representations going back to the first Christian centuries and found chiefly in the catacombs of Rome all pictured Him without a beard. All the pictures of Christ down to the beginning of the first century and even later are of this kind. Enough said on this subject.
The first time the concocted name Jehovah was used was in the year 1270 by a Spanish Catholic monk, Raymundus Martini. You can use what ever vowels you like to flesh out the tetragrammaton e.g. Juhuvoh or Jihivih.
We can conclude therefore, that Jesus never uttered the word "Jehovah" of thirteenth century origin. Rather, in addressing God he used the Aramaic word "Abba" i.e. Father.
@TheEnlightened77 I don't disagree with this statement at all. That's why I said Jesus used the Divine Name, HOWEVER IT WAS PRONOUNCED IN HIS DAY. My statements clearly stated that YHWH is not a combination of the hebrew word for Lord and God, namely Elohim and Adonai. YHWH or the tetragrammaton has never meant merely God. Go look at what noornoticvibe originally said below and you will see what I am talking about.
@TheEnlightened77 OK. Good for them, who cares! They certainly fucked up when they also said that Jesus died on a stake and not a cross. And Jesus didn't walk around with a suit and tie and a shaved face either.
Let's just remember that this whole conversation started with you criticizing my long hair. Why does long hair on a man bother you so bad? I want to know. Why?
@beforethesolstice Yeah, well that happens when you can't resort to physical violence nor foul language when someone refuses to leave after being asked nicely. It has nothing to do with romans of the pharisees. He's just stressed because you being a jerk. Sorry I don't mean to be rude you where acting like a jerk just to get him angry. Plus they just don't kick you out for no reason you HAD to have done something even if you don't want to admit it.
@TheAgentdrknite007 I'm sorry to hear that. Just a joke. I have a lot to do, I don't feel like going back and forth about if this really happened. Thanks for at least watching my video.
beforethesolstice: "Jesus didn't have long hair,' said physical anthropologist Joe Zias, who has studied hundreds of skeletons found in archaeological digs in Jerusalem. 'Jewish men back in antiquity did not have long hair.' 'The Jewish texts ridiculed long hair as something Roman or Greek,' said New York University's Lawrence Schiffman" However, it wasn't at all typical among even the Greeks and Romans, as plenty of statues and coins from the time attest.
@TheEnlightened77 Ok. So we know that Jesus followed all the traditions of people back in that day. I know that John the Baptist had long hair. As far as Jesus I can't say for sure that he did, but I have to point out that this doesn't substantiate your statement that earlier ARTIST depicted Jesus with short hair. And just pointing to one anthropoligist conclusion isn't stating a fact. For the record, it is not a big deal to me if Jesus had long hair or not.
beforethesolstice: From your post all can see you have sunken to the depths of ad hominem and have lost the plot. Clearly you are not interested in facts or truth. "Where ignorance is bliss it's folly to be wise."
@TheEnlightened77 Hey I was a bit harsh, but I have argued 100 times with religious people on here. It's annoying. You didn't answer my questions or have anything to say to what I stated, so let's leave it at that. I would enjoy a break from these fruitless debates.
My reply to @kyla15728 It was Paul who wrote that it was a shame for a man to have long hair. Moreover, the earliest paintings of Jesus show him with short hair.
As for Jehovah it is no more inspired than JiHiViH. All the vowels are man made and are interpolations. They are not God inspired. At the same time, Jesus never used the word Jehovah. Btw, pagan gods are also Elohim and the Hebrew word is not unique to the biblical God.
@TheEnlightened77 Haha. The earliest paintings. Really? Which ones are you referring to? Of course I know I am wasting my breath talking to a guy who calls himself TheEnlightened. Ha. Give me a break. At Luke 4:18 Jesus read aloud Isaiah chapter 61:1, and in Jesus day the Divine Name was still said aloud from the Scriptures. So, unless Jesus said Lord or God when he got to that verse, he did indeed say the Divine Name, however it was pronounced back then. But no, YHWH is not another word for God
So what's your point jw make them selfs look ignorant already you can't take the tree down by the leafs you gotta go for the roots . Who's charles taze russle
Smart Jehovah's Witnesses eventually discover that 'the truth' has nothing to do with correct doctrines or pleasing Jehovah God. 'The truth' is merely the opinion of the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses at this point in time. How do we know that Watchtower truths are opinions? Because the truth is always true. It never changes. The truth never flip flops back and forth. However opinions can change at any time.
I am so grateful to hear someone standing for the principle and practice of Love, first, last and always. Praise GOD! You are seeing JW nonsense through your developing consciousness of LOVE. This is what the practice of Truth is all about. More and more we shall find that LOVE is LIFE. Don't let the nonsense of fanatics influence you. U are lucky that you were disfellowshipped, unloosed from a mental prison, to follow something better, holier, healthier- the love of perfect spiritual goodness.
Your ability to love is the whole point. Learn to love more and more. Love is the Mind that was in Christ Jesus. With love for God and man you can heal all types of negative situations. Don't wrestle too much with the pharaisees- its a waste of time. Get the Christ consciousness and maintain it. Grow in Spirit and you will overcome matter and fear and progress to discover the kingdom already here as Jesus said.
@bmiller4930 Yes it is. Love and the shadow of love will balance this insane world. Thanks for the direction. Your comments have been very helpful and encouraging.
Well, I was believing your story up until you said the elders "offered you a bible study to be reinstated". That would not happen. So everything you are saying here is probably not true anyways. However, it is true you would not be welcome to start talking to everyone if you are disfellowshipped. Its just you dont need to lie about it.
@Johnnyprc JW conditioning is unloving, unprincipled,hypnotic, enslaving. The LOVE of GOD and MAN is the rule of true being. Beforethesolstice is telling the truth. I have examined phoney religions up close which r based on mental malpractice. The practice of the Mind that was in Christ Jesus, that puts Love first, last and always, breaks the beliefs of mental slavery, the divine idea which Jesus lived and is true manhood and womanhood, completeness.
For it would have been better for them not to have accurately known the path of righteousness than after knowing it accurately to turn away from the holy commandment delivered to them. The saying of the true proverb has happened to them: “The dog has returned to its own vomit, and the sow that was bathed to rolling in the mire."
I am sorry for your feelings. Sometimes elders don't have Jehovah's spirit as it should be. But you are my friend. Above all thing happened to you in K.H. could be avoided by just the president of the congregation to take you by your hand.. going to his car, maybe take you for a lunch... and then to put ALL THING IN THE TABLE, Jehovah would be listened that awesome conversation!!! But this just you and him.. He did that NO HE DID NOT DO THAT. My friend this is the time of the end!!!
Jehovah is an Amalagated combining of 2 names YHWH (Hebrew- for GOD) and Adonai (Lord)created by William Tyndale in the 1700's... so Jehovah is actually saying Lord God but Mose asked YHWH his name and he said ( I AM ) that is Gods name.. read Genesis.. (Yeshua)- Jesus said i will make you witnesses of me.. so You can be Yeshuas witness because Jesus witness of YHWH
@noirnoticvibe No it wasn't created by William Tyndale and it is not a combination of the hebrew words for Lord and God. Go read the beginning of just about any Bible and it will clear things up for you. If what you were saying were true then both Lord and God would be capitalized in the Bible to replace Jehovah or Yahweh. Instead LORD is
You seem very cynical in describing the "experience" you had at the KH. I wonder why, did they do something sever to you?
DatboiR0b 5 days ago
You have remember that there might be a bad sheep in the flock, but it doesn't mean that all JW's are all bad people. There alot of things that agree with them on.
crochrot1 1 week ago
JWs are a mean cult
jayhawk88z 2 weeks ago
While I applaud your efforts and found your testimony very fascinating I was just curious are the kingdom halls considered privet property? I mean I am so not siding with them at all but from a technical standpoint couldn't they have charged you with trespassing if that were true? Just wondering. Once again great video and interesting story.
deanomac24 3 weeks ago
hey look it just seems like you just came across some stupid people you cant judge a whole religion from your experiences in that congregation don't you think?
kingtraxz4life 1 month ago
ose me olvido decirte que no soy testigo de jehova,ok pinocho.
mrspeedy574 1 month ago
mentiroso a pinocho le crese la naris pero ati te esta cresiendo la varva,ji,ji,ji,your funny pero asta aki se buele mal tu barravas.
mrspeedy574 1 month ago
WOW THIS IS AN INTERESTING STORY N CRAZY!!!..
krazyk2300 1 month ago
you're infatuated kid. pick up a hobby
level0 1 month ago
MATE I AM AN XJW FOR APPROX 23YRS I STILL HAVE FEAR WHICH I CANT TOTALLY SHIFTITS ALWAYS THERE IN THE BACKGROUND.AS REGARD YOUR PRAVAVO IF ITS TRUE THEY HAVE A MASON CONNECTION RESPECTL IT MAY BE PRUDENT TO RE-EVALUATE YOUR COCK SURENESS BECAUSE IF THERE IS MASON ASSOCIATION I HAVE HAD DEALING WITH THEM MANY EARS AGO AND THERES PROBABLY SOME FILE ON YOU IN A DUSTY ATTIC SOMEWHERE????WHO KNOWS ONLY THOSE THAT FULLFILL THE NEED TOBASIS...????::):
kynancecove 1 month ago
Sounds like you went there in the intent cuase some sort of disruption. You could have talked to those friends and family anywhere but you chose to go somewhere that you dont even what to be at. Sounds to me as if you were doing something hurtfull. I am sure they did not forget about you and possibly what you had done to get yourself dis-fellowshiped. In your case I am sure you know why the "FRIENDS" should not talk to you.
fulltrist 2 months ago
No offense this sounds like fabrication
dmcarden 2 months ago 2
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I do not hate you. JSW beliefs are not logical. Example Jesus said "I am" which is name of God in Judaism meaning self existing. Jesus was and is the Son of God being equal of God. Jesus was called Immanuel. If God never changes and Jesus is God, then God is more complex than JSW defination of God.
MrHellowwww1 2 months ago
provebs 3:3 talks about proper conduct that reflects Jehovah God or Jesus: politeness... grace .kindness and good manners.. your facal expression show non social skills.. maybe you had no mother.foolishness you look like a fool..... at least you show no good manners and politeness- no social graces
donsuave2012 2 months ago
I wish I was there to see it all go down.
xsamitt 3 months ago
I think you acted like a fool--What the hell was your point? What in hell did you expect them to do? You were the loser for not leaving--And further more i dont believe you--You added and took away things--I left and didnt make a scene--You just hated to leave--You wanted to stay--Out after 32 years
hagblay 3 months ago
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what about the millions of Christians who have been martyred? Do they not get into heaven but only the 144,000??? I asked a JW that question...he said...I DUNNO...yeah...i guess they dont have math class in the WT group meetings...
Readabookism 3 months ago
good for you kid !!!!!!!
goodlaugh1 3 months ago
it was beautiful!!!! ;)
moutas 3 months ago
ricagilmore
============== Why messing up in a contradictory way with changed by JW holly books about Doctrines of Christianity . JW add opinions at sessions of activists , publish non stop a masquerade. JW can not be accepted as a Christian teaching, because do present neglect and distortion damaging JC , telling us are a True belief . Watch Tower Society publications teach that JC returned and rule in heaven as king in October 1914. WE are NOT going to that mud with You, Mister.
Rouynekov 3 months ago
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How sad. So much bitterness and anger. I returned to Jehovah after 20 years of leaving. wow.. I sure missed the honesty and integrity. Everyone admits they are imperfect and trying. That is the best we can do. I surely do not miss being out lost in this world. My friends were true and my business was great, but it is empty ...bitter... lonely.. scared.. just watch this video if you don't believe me. I am happy to have come back home.
ricagilmore 3 months ago
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How sad. So much bitterness and anger. I returned to Jehovah after 20 years of leaving. wow.. I sure missed the honesty and integrity. Everyone admits they are imperfect and trying. That is the best we can do. I surely do not miss being out lost in this world. My friends were true and my business was great, but it is empty ...bitter... lonely.. scared.. just watch this video if you don't believe me. I am happy to have come back home.
ricagilmore 3 months ago
How sad. So much bitterness and anger. I returned to Jehovah after 20 years of leaving. wow.. I sure missed the honesty and intergrity. Everyone admits they are inperfect and trying. That is the best we can do. I surely do not miss being out lost in this world. My friends were true and my business was great, but it is empty ...bitter... lonely.. scared.. just watch this video if you don't believe me. I am happy to have come back home.
ricagilmore 3 months ago
so what was the main reason you was dissfellowshipped?? there's gotta be a reason...they wouldn't disfellowship u for no reason
martyandy23 3 months ago
So . . . . your smart . . . and the other guys were frustrated at you! Sooooooo whaaaaaaat. Lame video, makes you look stupid. Just being honest.
jeremyneilkelley 3 months ago
Your video really made me smile. I actually laughed out loud.
SimplieDelightful 3 months ago
no elder will tell you tha stop acting up pls why do u have so much hate jst remember that jah forgives but also jah is a big good and we dnt have to express about him like ur doing with jahs ppl
mayra6131 3 months ago
naw buddy aint no elder tell you that. u poly started actin up
nekaneka11 3 months ago
Like all cults, the Jehovah's Witness distorts doctrines of Christianity. It denies the deity of Christ, His physical resurrection, and salvation by grace. This alone makes it non-Christian.
Rouynekov 3 months ago
@Rouynekov i can tell u neva been to the hall they tll bout all dat
nekaneka11 3 months ago
@Rouynekov why do people lie about Jehovah's people? They lied about Jesus too. I love Jesus. I know Jesus was resurrected. We have a memorial remembering this event every single year all over the entire world. I am sorry someone lied to you about what we believe.... Jehovah's witnesses believe the Bible about Jesus: John 17:3 This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ
ricagilmore 3 months ago
@Rouynekov They don't know it because it is a lie! John 17:3 This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ. Jehovah's Witness have memorials all over the world. Millions attend open invite to the public.. not the definition of a cult. every year specifically because Jesus said to "do this in remembrance of me." don't continue lies and propaganda! It is hitler like.
ricagilmore 3 months ago
you "occupied" the KH.
thepixieful 4 months ago 3
@thepixieful this is the video I watched over 6 months ago that planted a seed in my mind which obviously has grown.
Clint's description of the event set my mind on FIRE. GO CLINT!!!
laurasandeastman 4 months ago
Why were you there? Just to cause trouble. And really you are making this up. They would never turn out the lights and whatever nonsense your talking about. Your lying. I am calling You a Liar! You Lie! Your just making it up. You put up a video and say its so and you try to make it like it was a real event? Face it Your Liar. You Lie. Admit it. You are making this all up. Yes You Lie just for your own gratification. I do judge You! I will Judge You as a human. And I am here to call you a Liar
IDebateU 4 months ago
4:49 - why is it of interest to you whether it crumbles ? its not ur religion aanymore right? Or do u somehow hope to get back at them by it crumbling?
OriginalJoseyWales 4 months ago
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I used to be a JW. I left after 2 years as I decided it was not a God I knew. My God was love and peace, and I could not not relate to a God of 'excessive discipline'. This talk of wrath etc was confusing to me. However 10 years later, I get it. I committed sinful behaviour that could now by life threatening. I completely understand the need for 'house rules'. Though you don't get the reason for rules, don't rebel. A child don't get why his dad removes the matches it's playin with either
nevernextdoor1 4 months ago
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@nevernextdoor1 Please don't turn away just cause you don't understand, i've realized it's like a father taking away the dangerous toy out of his baby's mouth, or locking the cleaning closet from his little daughter to keep from harm, or taking the matches from out of his little boys hands. God protects us even though we think it's unfair. It's an act of Love. When a parent disciplines a child, it's out of love. Find Jesus and follow his 'law'. He's not in the churches tho, u need to pray.
nevernextdoor1 4 months ago
Had you EGO grown from every 1000 visitor's?
SerhijInverse 4 months ago
Like all cults, the Jehovah's Witness distorts doctrines of Christianity. It denies the deity of Christ, His physical resurrection, and salvation by grace. This alone makes it non-Christian. To support its erring doctrines, even altered the Bible to make it agree with its changing and non-Christian teach.. Thus, they believe that people cannot come to the knowledge of “the Truth” just by reading the Bible alone.
Заема се да коригира съществуващата доктрина с Watchtower literature.
Rouynekov 4 months ago
@Rouynekov read Pagans and Christians by Robin Fox, there are MANY interpretations of Christ and his story. odd but true. to live as JC did many JW's do. we are all people. member of various religions or not. the JW were founded on reading the bible alone as YOU note. odd how people are. but to call one or another a non-christian does you and me no good. be well. JC said let the wheat and the chaf do what they will until the judgement day.
thepixieful 3 months ago
I have been in your shoes .Actually I still am . Thankyou for nameing names even though I know you love these people and hope the best for them. I just lost my father and now I can say anything about this religion.And I will the only reason I held back was because I did not want to hurt him and give him another heart attack
bruce8954 4 months ago
Don't go back there it is a cult! Don't play with fire!
meshel2012 4 months ago
Why stay in the cult if u have realised it is corrupt and full of hatred? u should get out and stay out, and continue to inform people of real watctower cult
RuthWilliams86 5 months ago
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Hahaha you are probably gay and that's why you were kicked out... And now pissed off !!
gh103073 5 months ago
I like ur facial hair!!!! cozzz its almost movember.. I like :)
cedella212 5 months ago
@cedella212 Thanks! Yeah it will be nice when it's cold. You should see my hair now. Go to my new site opposinsuns Thanks for watching my video.
beforethesolstice 5 months ago
@beforethesolstice Hey checked it out :) Woot woot.so glad ur out of the watchtower. its awesome and I still like your facial hair. !!! =_= Ohhh yes I saw your hair now... Guess what?? I still like your facial hair.. Gooo the Mo and hair.. I like.. woot :) ur accent is cool. :) Anywho probably hardcore strange. Im aussie is understandable
cedella212 4 months ago
@beforethesolstic you should visit some congregations outside of your state because i've never heard of any elder acting this way at least not in my congregation. Not everyone who says their JW is JW. I left the organization when i was 14 for 9 years. I returned a few months ago to the same congregation i left. I was welcomed,never shunned or ignored. Only hugs and conversation,even after speaking about my doubt, and sharing some of the many sins i committed in my absence i was welcomed. Pray
salassi21 5 months ago
I'm not sure what you proved or were trying to prove? I feel sorry for anyone that has to prove they are worth something to others and brag about something really embarrassing. You got kicked and are wining about it - act like a man for a change.
polidic 5 months ago
Hey Korah, I am not a Jehovah's witness however I was raised by a mother who was and a father who is Catholic. I work in a prison and my father has for many years. You are so full of yourself! I have not been treated so well by some elders and even disfellowshiped. However I would never put myself on some stupid video spreading some warped crap that comes from a haughty attitude oh thats right Cain and Satan had one....hum
m7western 6 months ago
Im just gonna say this once! You are all Hypocritical idiots who need conviction to feel excistence! I was born into the JW's i left it at 19yrs old I see many of you guys all hurt and weak because u feel u fucked up in life because religion. I have a fucking evangelist friend who also talk about tha same shit as u guys... didnt yous learn anything good from Religion? Be strong, faith in your self? love? how to talk infront of hundreds? if ya didnt than u missed that good stuff.
gusto1978 6 months ago
@gusto1978 Good comment man! Yeah I did learn good things from religion, the very things you mentioned. I would say that love is NOT taught by religion though, only alluded too. They preach love, but practice fear. Going back to the Kingdom Hall to face those who shun you is by no means a weak thing to do though. It helps you while helping others to move on in life from religion.
beforethesolstice 6 months ago 3
@beforethesolstice nah man I credit u for facing them I wont discredit you for it.. in fact having balls is what I'm preaching to most of the people that leave not only JW's but any religion... as I said before my evangelist friend also complains on the same thing some of us are talking about here... so it's not only JW's youths but all youths from many other religions. they all smell tha same BS.
gusto1978 6 months ago
@beforethesolstice every thing you said i have lived as well being born into jws. it had huge horrible impacts on me and my family they are a cult other jw please save yourselfs you have it within you.unless you want to be led brainwashed and mentaly spent.confront the faracies!
jimjosh71 6 months ago
there's 2 minutes ill never get back. I couldn't listen to any more of hit stupidity
tomass464 5 months ago
@gusto1978 Wow! Sounds like leaving the Jehovah's Witnesses really did you a lot of good. You sound so happy! And you use such elevated speech too!
somedudeII 2 weeks ago
They thought you were possessed, that's why they ran from you, lol.
1986TruthSeeker 6 months ago
You seem's very angry and describing your revenge ... have you done something bad that you are trying to justify what you did?
Ok, it seems you are happy now ... why not move on? You still bashing them and that makes you sounds very bitter! But then again you sound so pathetic ... so sad!
sam888ization 6 months ago
Love Christ Jesus and the Father with all your heart. Controlling groups(cults), along with all the other denominations.....trivial.
MegaMusicforthesoul 6 months ago
Are you against Jehovah's Witnesses in general or just against the Elders in your congregation?
GypsyPianist 7 months ago
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don't insult people, by calling them names, just because you don't agree with their religious beliefs, you are giving no evidence to back up your argument, and ur not saying anything but lies and u know it :)
MandyT93 7 months ago
I was freed from this organization's control 20 years ago, and I also disagree with the practice of disfellowshiping ... but what you did was disrespectful. Every organization has the right to set rules for its members, and a mature and compassionate adult respects this right.
TheWriterWalker 7 months ago
Yes!!!!! Make God (Jehovah) your true leader!! They say that they'll study the bible with you, all I ever studied were JW publications. When I asked them why we needed additional literature even though the bible is inspired by God I was told that we needed help understanding the bible. When I then asked that God obviously made a mistake because he DID NOT write the bible for all people they told me that this was "Satan the devil" talking. They are contradicting themselves A LOT!!!!!
NTimoChristina 8 months ago
Why don't you find a good Apostolic Pentecostal church in your area? There, you will be taught - with love and wisdom and authority through the Word of God (KJV) - the born again experience. If you're serious about knowing God and living in power for Him (Acts 2), then do what I respectfully recommend. This will be a life-changing experience for you!!
ThaRealJimShady 8 months ago
Wow! I love you man! I'm in Baton Rouge. I haven't set foot in a Kingdom Hall since I was 17 (my mother STILL tries to convince me to go to Memorials!). I wish I had the will to go into a KH and do just what you've done! I just got sick of it! I thank the JW's for turning me to atheism! I'm WAY more enlightened than I ever could have been if I was part of a more mainstream sect! Awesome vid! Thanx!
fishdog666 8 months ago
@fishdog666 I agree with you on the JW's turning you onto atheism and enlightenment. It at least made us think about religion MUCH harder than your average churchgoer. And you keep going further down the rabbit hole usually. Haha. Thanks for watching my video man! Oh and thanks for not simply joining another lame religion.
beforethesolstice 8 months ago
@fishdog666 you should be a baptist :)
miamibabii77 7 months ago
@miamibabii77 Nah, I'll stay the course as an atheist.
fishdog666 7 months ago
@fishdog666 IM SORRY THAT UR AN ATHESIT NOW AND THATS UNDERSTANDABLE BUT DONT LET THE JW DISCOURAGE YOU.. YOU DONT HAVE TO BE PART OF A RELIGION BUT HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD... I HOPE SOMEDAY YOU FIND UR WAY... ASK GOD TO HELP YOU AND SHOW U THE RIGHT DIRECTION. KEEP SEARCHING YOULL KNOW WHATS RIGHT JUST LIKE YOU KNEW WHAT WAS NOT. DONT GIVE UP I KNOW HOW YOU FEEL
miamibabii77 7 months ago
@miamibabii77 I'm perfectly happy as an atheist. I know I can live a life without servitude to a being who's existence cannot be proved. I live for me, my family and my friends. I don't feel a need to please anyone else. I'm truly content living this life as well as I possibly can, for I know the only chance I'll get. It may sound bleak to a Christian, but it's very freeing once you've broken the chains of guilt (for simply being born of human "sin") and slavery to and invisible ruler.
fishdog666 7 months ago
Shouldn't have played up as disfellowship is for unrepentant sin, so ask yourself what you did wrong, ask for an explanation and if fed up of being shunned make a return. Problem is your rant is like apostacy and if you don't get it you shouldn't have got basptised if ever you were??? Look on the bright side, its nearly the end of the system and no one can hear you moan when dead.
khakistarfish 6 months ago
@khakistarfish The problem with JW baptism is that kids are pushed to be baptized at 12 or 13, WAAAAYYY before they're mature enough to make that sort of life decision! I was a party to the same treatment. Your parents MAKE you get baptized!
fishdog666 6 months ago
I agree that we must follow god.However,we should also not follow men with false prophesies and false teachings(such as no beards,no birthdays etc-where in the bible does it say you will loose salvation because of this?) including the New World Translation Bible which is not an accurate translation of gods word.
eddyrazo11 8 months ago
One thing I will say is, Islam does have bad people in it, however the religion itself has a truthful and strong foundation. Therefore the Religion is perfect. What I noticed about Christianity is that the foundation is not 100% truthful, making its product uncertain. "You can't pour water through a dirty pipe and get clean water out the other end." This is why we have these questions they cannot answer. The foundation is not sturdy. I mean no disrespect. Peace be with you.
IsaHamzaBilal 8 months ago
I studied with the JW for two years and I had still so many questions. So, I undersand how you guys feel. I became a Muslim a year ago and will never turn back. In my time with my Muslim brothers, I have learned so much about the true religion. Islam is it. And guess what? Those questions you guys seek, they have no problem answering them. I just hope that your moral compass is not out-of-wack. I urge you to not believe the hype they have on the news about Islam. CONT...
IsaHamzaBilal 8 months ago
1st of all JW is not a cult!! We don't worship Satan don't even have scultures! Get ur research gd cus thts wat ur doin u were never 1of them. God bless u
Djnena123 8 months ago
JW's ARE a cult.The definition of a cult is an organisation that punishes you if you leave it by excommunication- that is,you are not allowed contact with previous friends/members or even if you try,they are encouraged to ignore you..
eddyrazo11 8 months ago
Hello my friend, i'm from Brazil my english is not so good, but i would like to say i'm with you. I decided to demand some answers to some important questions regarding the governing body and the society polices from the elderls of my congregation. I did that though a letter adressed to the elders, and in this letter i said they would be alowed to convert it into a dissociation letter if they could not answer my questions, or if they prefer to avoid to answer them. And it was what they have done
chaveiromeninodorio 8 months ago
We need more video like this to show what kind of religion these people are..I'm so glad i never became one of them..Always preaching about the end is coming to scare people into there religion..What a shame!!!!
BENZCLS5 9 months ago
well man u know what that elder was not ready. But if you came back to spread lies and disrupt the hall then your wrong
monstered66 9 months ago
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Roboleafs75 9 months ago
To all you jehovah's witnesses, hell is REAL. Jesus is God in the flesh
88laflare 9 months ago
just another Apostate
winstong2000 9 months ago
Even after what happened please try your best to please Jehovah not the people who are ignorant about justice, love, power and wisdom. We are all responsible to Jehovah with our actions. I believe you still love Jehovah because he is the only true God and no one else.
babiiandie 9 months ago 4
Satan is using everyone of us to fight with ourselves and our brother and sister. He use our emotions to hate one another. But you know, in the new order there will be no negative emotions that eat all of us. All I can say is make Jehovah your stronghold. Never mind imperfect people around us. Keep praying, I can see that you are very angry, for this reason you have post this video at youtube. I believe that you love Jehovah no matter what. Jehovah knows that.
babiiandie 9 months ago 9
@babiiandie The fact that these congreations are falling apart has nothing to do with Satan. The cause of all of this in the internet where more accurate information about the world and WTS is available. As a former witness I can say that you people are completely out of the touch with the real world. Not everything can blamed on t his imaginary Satan. Who would want to worship a god that gets his kicks off of murdering innocent people anyway?
MrJpn1996 8 months ago
@MrJpn1996 Well excuse me for only being 15 , and this being the only religion i've known . And for your information , we are not out of touch with the real world . Get your facts straight .
babiiandie 8 months ago
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@babiiandie How sad. So much bitterness and anger. I returned to Jehovah after 20 years of leaving. wow.. I sure missed the honesty and integrity. Everyone admits they are imperfect and trying. That is the best we can do. I surely do not miss being out lost in this world. My friends were true and my business was great, but it is empty ...bitter... lonely.. scared.. just watch this video if you don't believe me. I am happy to have come back home.
ricagilmore 3 months ago
Well. serve Jehovah not the elder. Elders are imperfect people like all of us. Jehovah is the one we are serving not them. Pray to Jehovah all the time. Satan is using everything to weaken our faith. Find some congregation that will treat you with respect like Jehovah
babiiandie 9 months ago 2
Well I'm really sorry this happened to you. Your not crazy I went to south (mom still does) and I know how they get down. I went to the memorial recently and they looked at me like i've I was beneath them. I'm not even disfellowshiped! Just inactive. I have friends from covingtion congregation and conyers, morrow etc.so I'm sure I know alot of people you are talking about. I like your band by the way!
geishagrrl24 9 months ago
@geishagrrl24 Yeah that's the way it is. So you have friends from Covington and Conyers too! Wow. I know people from there also. I grew up in the McDonough KH before the split into Stkbg and McD congreahtions. I then moved to Covington with my family and went to the Covington Hall. It seems like I am related to %25 of the congregations in McD and Stkbg, but not anyone in Cov. and Cnyrs. I am sure I know you too! About my band, thanks!
beforethesolstice 9 months ago
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you really do have mental problems!!
vielasi 10 months ago
so sad.
AlphaMEx10 10 months ago
you are one sad idiot of a ugly little gay guy .
hujjesb 10 months ago
wait why do u have a beard and a jw thats not really allowed
itsonlybreeable 10 months ago
@itsonlybreeable I am not part of their religion anymore.
beforethesolstice 10 months ago 6
@beforethesolstice Good for you! Congradulations!
formeyousee 8 months ago
@beforethesolstice wow if ur a jw u cant have a beard ?????? wtf CULT!
miamibabii77 7 months ago
@miamibabii77 'wow if ur a jw u cant have a beard ?????? wtf CULT!'
-no, it isn't true
HardbeatAcolyte 7 months ago
@HardbeatAcolyte No, it actually is true. =/ Jehovah's Witness can have facial hair when it comes to small sideburns and mustaches, but beards aren't allowed.
singplaylaughlove9 7 months ago
Hey, I'm a Jehovah's Witness and, I just wanted to let you know that you are loved and forgiven, and also, I think it would be in your best interest if you begin seeing a psychiatrist... Good luck with everything, I'm keeping you in my prayers.
iluvpencils000 10 months ago
If you were going to upload this video, why not you just recorded all the things you are talking about? Because if there is not prove, for any wise person it is just blah blah blah, blah.
Why are you so full of hate? Le they be!
Are you doing all these videos this just because you were expelled from their religion? Overcome this sheet of your life, if you have one other than express you anger to the Wittness. And if you feel betreyed or abused, learn some from Jesus, and forgive them.
GUALHERO 10 months ago
@GUALHERO If I were to bring a video camera then I would clearly be there just trying to get some dirt on them. I am there to help them, and re-unite with them. I have many relatives and dear friends in the religion. Not every congregation acted like this one. It is rude to ask a man to leave a Kingdom Hall because he was talking to members of the congregation. I just told him I wasn't leaving unless he could state from the scriptures why I had to leave. He said he wouldn't do that.
beforethesolstice 10 months ago
You sound hella evil. You would of been great friends with the snake in the garden. I think you have mental issues dude. If you don't wanna go back why do you demand attention? Oh what I know why! It is like the dude that shot the Congresswoman. You live in your own perfect world...You are your own enemy, your own god, your own destruction...If Jehovah witnesses want to live like that it isn't your business. You are not bound to go there...
mariposamaria 10 months ago
@mariposamaria Did you know that the Watchtower joined the United Nations as an NGO from 1992 until 2001 as an NGO?
beforethesolstice 10 months ago 2
really?? did this really happen?? umm i doubt it.
swishtastic 10 months ago
Are you on crack dude? My wife is df'd, and when she goes to the memorial they are nothing short of loving and supportive. The thing people tend to forget is that people are df'd for doing things against their teachings. Is that so wrong? You know the consequences of your actions. I myself dont agree with their teachings but I do have respect for them. Its no different then getting fired from a job because you went against their guidelines. Dont be ignorant.
KAugustH 10 months ago
Wheres your moustache?
jonsixtythree 10 months ago
do you know why someone gets disfellowshipped? as a witness that has been disfellowshipped and has been around the truth and have travelled to many different kingdom halls, its fun to listen you your fairy tale of a story. every thing you said. (well some of your names and meeting lingo) just sounds like a child blowing up a story to make it sound like its a drama. and fyi, if your Df'd, you can go to meetings. but it all goes back to my question that i asked you. hope to hear an answer.
echelonarmy1 10 months ago
@echelonarmy1 Turning lights out and locking doors is more than drama. And yes I know that you can go to meetings df'ed. But if you talk to people around you there, then this scenario can happen. I forgot your question though. I get a lot of posts on here, and have a busy life, so I can't always get back to everyone. By the way, when you were df'ed what would have happened had you decided to start talking to the friends anyway before and after the meetings?
beforethesolstice 10 months ago
@beforethesolstice see thats where i know more about you. as df'd i know what are the guide lines that df'd come with it sounds harsh but its more for discipline for acting sinful. if you have been a witness, you should know that if you are repentive and show your faith, than you ARE welcomed back and, as you like to call shun, over. i saw my fam & friends every day and sucked to not communicate w/them but i know i was in the wrong and took this as discipline. im back and happy.
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h8tow8ck 10 months ago
Wow you sound tough. But you aint Jesus. Dude. You sound like a fool,because you think you proved something and you loved the mayhan. Just like Satan and thats why they did not want you in there. And you did cause a rukus because you went in there to cause trouble.But jehova will stop you thats for sure.And you are telling here say because you are the only one talking.
RMXAD5 10 months ago
Good man, I've been reading up on jw's today and good on you for getting out of that corporate cult. I really feel sorry for the people who are "trapped" in to this farse.
dazzlerby 10 months ago
Hahahaha you made the biggest mistake in leaving the organization. I also did, Coz I didn't accept their counsel towards me about my violent nature.
But with that being said, I am trying my hardest to get back in the truth and the elders can see I am.
The truth is the best thing that ever happened in my life, leaving it was the worst. Jehovah always finds a way to cleanse his congregations, and you... "brother"... Are a maaaasssive loser.
You talk with pride and you don't show any sense of hum
UsoPiedPiper 10 months ago
4:55 "They do not have god's spirit. It left a long time ago".
So, it sounds like you still believe in some type of god?
Comp1337e 10 months ago
@Comp1337e Yes. Even when I styled myself an atheist, I sensed that there were things going on around us that were of a "spiritual" or different nature. But what I believe is not that important really, because I am just a man learning in space and time and my thoughts change. I address my videos to people in general who were once JW's regardless of their worldview now. That being said I do not attend or support any religion whatsoever.
beforethesolstice 10 months ago
@beforethesolstice You know what helped me stop sitting on the fence about this issue, if there is a god or no god? It was reading Richard Dawkins's book The God Delusion. I feel for you. It took time for me to realize this.
I want to start attending meetings again just to see how I would take what is being taught, now that I have a different worldview. Should be interesting. I don't want to be shunned either, so I will not reveal my lack of belief in a god.
Comp1337e 10 months ago
@Comp1337e I have actually read a chapter or two of The God Delusion. I agree with his conclusions, and actually thought a lot of the things he said well before I read the book. I think everybody should consider all things to have a broad view of our world. The way I see God is similar to Star Wars. I am trying to develop both the dark side and the light. Annakin is the one who balanced the powers of the force ya know. Lol.
beforethesolstice 10 months ago
@beforethesolstice That's good to hear. I agree. This is a big decision in life. It's always good to weigh both sides of the story. I would recommend you reading more than the few chapters that you did. Perhaps you have missed many assumed points that you think are in there, that could possibly be the final "nails in the coffin", so to speak, of a belief in a possible god. or gods.
Separate subject: Have you been able to keep your friends from the congregation?
Comp1337e 10 months ago
I am glad you are out my friend. The Watchtower is a corrupt family disintegrating organization.
Good for you.
TheSnarkyApologist 11 months ago
your a loser! we dont have "back rooms."
vielasi 11 months ago
what a sad guy
heathercrace 11 months ago
I DIS LIKE THIS GUY VERY MUCH AND THEY WOULDNT CALL THE PLOICE.....
beyblader1234567 11 months ago
dude i see why you got desfellowshped there are plenty of scriptures that talk about being desfellowshiped JOHN 16:2 and another that i forgot.just remember that we dont care if you got desfellowshiped some brother and sisters i want the to come back because they fallow derections and they get reinstated but you can keep being an apostate. your never gonna make it back that way. your considered bad associations i would of done the same thing if i was the elders and kicked u out.
tye2674 11 months ago
beforethesolstice: I concur with your last post and I enjoyed the exchange of views. Where two people agree on all points every time, only one is doing the thinking. Before I close here, let me leave you with some food for thought.
It is wrong to centre complete devotion on any human person. Only God, that which is of unconditioned value, is worthy of total submission. To identify any finite thing, whether a person or a book, solely and completely with the infinite God, is idolatry.
Peace.
TheEnlightened77 11 months ago
beforethesolstice: Let me say that the long hair issue was just my reaction to your point by my presenting a different view. It's no big deal. In fact, I take the biblical texts as expressions of belief, which may, to an indeterminate degree be metaphorical, allegorical or mythopic (expressing inner spiritual relationships in an objective, physical and cosmically grandiloquent form).
indeed, i believe it is dangerous to believe that one has a guaranteed truth in some ancient document.
TheEnlightened77 11 months ago
@TheEnlightened77 Alright. I'm glad to hear that man. That's exactly how I feel about things too. We may have been judging one another as ignorant or as doctrine pushers. This is a good end to a worthy debate. I will check out the evidence provided that Jesus did not have a beard or long hair. You think about things deeper than most people I talk to on here, and have at least researched stuff on your on. I think that we are both pretty honest people. Take care man.
beforethesolstice 11 months ago
@beforethesolstice you really have some mental problems mate! look at you, if you dont want the truth then dont have it! move on with your life!
vielasi 11 months ago
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beforethesolstice "My statements clearly stated that YHWH is not a combination of the hebrew word for Lord and God, namely Elohim and Adonai."
Agreed. But if my memory serves me, focus was placed on the artificial name"Jehovah" which is a combination of the consonants of JHVH and the vowels of Adonai (Lord) and Elohim (God).
TheEnlightened77 11 months ago
German painter, L. Fahrenkrog, says, "Christ certainly never wore a beard, and His hair was beyond a doubt a closely cut. For this we have historical proof." The oldest representations going back to the first Christian centuries and found chiefly in the catacombs of Rome all pictured Him without a beard. All the pictures of Christ down to the beginning of the first century and even later are of this kind. Enough said on this subject.
TheEnlightened77 11 months ago
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@TheEnlightened77 never heard that one.
thepixieful 3 months ago
beforethesolstice:
FACT:
The first time the concocted name Jehovah was used was in the year 1270 by a Spanish Catholic monk, Raymundus Martini. You can use what ever vowels you like to flesh out the tetragrammaton e.g. Juhuvoh or Jihivih.
We can conclude therefore, that Jesus never uttered the word "Jehovah" of thirteenth century origin. Rather, in addressing God he used the Aramaic word "Abba" i.e. Father.
TheEnlightened77 11 months ago
@TheEnlightened77 I don't disagree with this statement at all. That's why I said Jesus used the Divine Name, HOWEVER IT WAS PRONOUNCED IN HIS DAY. My statements clearly stated that YHWH is not a combination of the hebrew word for Lord and God, namely Elohim and Adonai. YHWH or the tetragrammaton has never meant merely God. Go look at what noornoticvibe originally said below and you will see what I am talking about.
beforethesolstice 11 months ago
beforethesolstice: Correction.... 1 Corinthians 11:14.
BTW, the Watchtower in 1954 and am by no means defending them, got it right then in respect of saying that Jesus had short hair.
In love, truth and light.
TheEnlightened77 11 months ago
@TheEnlightened77 OK. Good for them, who cares! They certainly fucked up when they also said that Jesus died on a stake and not a cross. And Jesus didn't walk around with a suit and tie and a shaved face either.
Let's just remember that this whole conversation started with you criticizing my long hair. Why does long hair on a man bother you so bad? I want to know. Why?
beforethesolstice 11 months ago
@beforethesolstice Yeah, well that happens when you can't resort to physical violence nor foul language when someone refuses to leave after being asked nicely. It has nothing to do with romans of the pharisees. He's just stressed because you being a jerk. Sorry I don't mean to be rude you where acting like a jerk just to get him angry. Plus they just don't kick you out for no reason you HAD to have done something even if you don't want to admit it.
TheAgentdrknite007 11 months ago
@TheAgentdrknite007 Yo mama!
beforethesolstice 11 months ago
@beforethesolstice lol she's dead what about her?
TheAgentdrknite007 11 months ago
@TheAgentdrknite007 I'm sorry to hear that. Just a joke. I have a lot to do, I don't feel like going back and forth about if this really happened. Thanks for at least watching my video.
beforethesolstice 11 months ago
@beforethesolstice Ok then a nice day.
TheAgentdrknite007 11 months ago
beforethesolstice: "Jesus didn't have long hair,' said physical anthropologist Joe Zias, who has studied hundreds of skeletons found in archaeological digs in Jerusalem. 'Jewish men back in antiquity did not have long hair.' 'The Jewish texts ridiculed long hair as something Roman or Greek,' said New York University's Lawrence Schiffman" However, it wasn't at all typical among even the Greeks and Romans, as plenty of statues and coins from the time attest.
Go read: 1 Cor.11:4
TheEnlightened77 11 months ago
@TheEnlightened77 Ok. So we know that Jesus followed all the traditions of people back in that day. I know that John the Baptist had long hair. As far as Jesus I can't say for sure that he did, but I have to point out that this doesn't substantiate your statement that earlier ARTIST depicted Jesus with short hair. And just pointing to one anthropoligist conclusion isn't stating a fact. For the record, it is not a big deal to me if Jesus had long hair or not.
beforethesolstice 11 months ago
beforethesolstice: From your post all can see you have sunken to the depths of ad hominem and have lost the plot. Clearly you are not interested in facts or truth. "Where ignorance is bliss it's folly to be wise."
TheEnlightened77 11 months ago
@TheEnlightened77 Hey I was a bit harsh, but I have argued 100 times with religious people on here. It's annoying. You didn't answer my questions or have anything to say to what I stated, so let's leave it at that. I would enjoy a break from these fruitless debates.
beforethesolstice 11 months ago
My reply to @kyla15728 It was Paul who wrote that it was a shame for a man to have long hair. Moreover, the earliest paintings of Jesus show him with short hair.
As for Jehovah it is no more inspired than JiHiViH. All the vowels are man made and are interpolations. They are not God inspired. At the same time, Jesus never used the word Jehovah. Btw, pagan gods are also Elohim and the Hebrew word is not unique to the biblical God.
TheEnlightened77 11 months ago
@TheEnlightened77 Haha. The earliest paintings. Really? Which ones are you referring to? Of course I know I am wasting my breath talking to a guy who calls himself TheEnlightened. Ha. Give me a break. At Luke 4:18 Jesus read aloud Isaiah chapter 61:1, and in Jesus day the Divine Name was still said aloud from the Scriptures. So, unless Jesus said Lord or God when he got to that verse, he did indeed say the Divine Name, however it was pronounced back then. But no, YHWH is not another word for God
beforethesolstice 11 months ago
So what's your point jw make them selfs look ignorant already you can't take the tree down by the leafs you gotta go for the roots . Who's charles taze russle
dalightsareout 11 months ago
good for you man!
awke2280 11 months ago
Smart Jehovah's Witnesses eventually discover that 'the truth' has nothing to do with correct doctrines or pleasing Jehovah God. 'The truth' is merely the opinion of the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses at this point in time. How do we know that Watchtower truths are opinions? Because the truth is always true. It never changes. The truth never flip flops back and forth. However opinions can change at any time.
1955JAFO 11 months ago
u know f-u
carlito9809 1 year ago
I am so grateful to hear someone standing for the principle and practice of Love, first, last and always. Praise GOD! You are seeing JW nonsense through your developing consciousness of LOVE. This is what the practice of Truth is all about. More and more we shall find that LOVE is LIFE. Don't let the nonsense of fanatics influence you. U are lucky that you were disfellowshipped, unloosed from a mental prison, to follow something better, holier, healthier- the love of perfect spiritual goodness.
bmiller4930 1 year ago
Your ability to love is the whole point. Learn to love more and more. Love is the Mind that was in Christ Jesus. With love for God and man you can heal all types of negative situations. Don't wrestle too much with the pharaisees- its a waste of time. Get the Christ consciousness and maintain it. Grow in Spirit and you will overcome matter and fear and progress to discover the kingdom already here as Jesus said.
bmiller4930 1 year ago
@bmiller4930 Yes it is. Love and the shadow of love will balance this insane world. Thanks for the direction. Your comments have been very helpful and encouraging.
beforethesolstice 1 year ago
@bmiller4930 okay
wen they dont do that probably u are talking about a nother religion
TheAlejandra89 11 months ago
Well, I was believing your story up until you said the elders "offered you a bible study to be reinstated". That would not happen. So everything you are saying here is probably not true anyways. However, it is true you would not be welcome to start talking to everyone if you are disfellowshipped. Its just you dont need to lie about it.
Johnnyprc 1 year ago
@Johnnyprc JW conditioning is unloving, unprincipled,hypnotic, enslaving. The LOVE of GOD and MAN is the rule of true being. Beforethesolstice is telling the truth. I have examined phoney religions up close which r based on mental malpractice. The practice of the Mind that was in Christ Jesus, that puts Love first, last and always, breaks the beliefs of mental slavery, the divine idea which Jesus lived and is true manhood and womanhood, completeness.
bmiller4930 1 year ago
For it would have been better for them not to have accurately known the path of righteousness than after knowing it accurately to turn away from the holy commandment delivered to them. The saying of the true proverb has happened to them: “The dog has returned to its own vomit, and the sow that was bathed to rolling in the mire."
nefertitimiacara 1 year ago
@nefertitimiacara Yes and this scripture was written by someone who left "Jehovah's people" because he listened to those "apostate" Christians.
beforethesolstice 1 year ago
lol, very funny!!!
maxsilva1974 1 year ago
I am sorry for your feelings. Sometimes elders don't have Jehovah's spirit as it should be. But you are my friend. Above all thing happened to you in K.H. could be avoided by just the president of the congregation to take you by your hand.. going to his car, maybe take you for a lunch... and then to put ALL THING IN THE TABLE, Jehovah would be listened that awesome conversation!!! But this just you and him.. He did that NO HE DID NOT DO THAT. My friend this is the time of the end!!!
juan58102 1 year ago
Jehovah is an Amalagated combining of 2 names YHWH (Hebrew- for GOD) and Adonai (Lord)created by William Tyndale in the 1700's... so Jehovah is actually saying Lord God but Mose asked YHWH his name and he said ( I AM ) that is Gods name.. read Genesis.. (Yeshua)- Jesus said i will make you witnesses of me.. so You can be Yeshuas witness because Jesus witness of YHWH
noirnoticvibe 1 year ago
@noirnoticvibe No it wasn't created by William Tyndale and it is not a combination of the hebrew words for Lord and God. Go read the beginning of just about any Bible and it will clear things up for you. If what you were saying were true then both Lord and God would be capitalized in the Bible to replace Jehovah or Yahweh. Instead LORD is