Too many people look for literal meaning in each lyric, each line, each song. Adam fathered this after his emergency back surgery....it truly speaks to me of a man who has looked death in the face and is broken and batter, and is pondering everything in his life. Jesse wrote the lyrics, and therefor took that theme and infused his own introspections. It's nothing more than a perspective of life.
I have always thought jesse was a way better vocalist.. i have been trying to keep an ear out for anything he had been doing then this blew my mind... Jesse please never leave the music scene ever again.
For as much as i love Howard, this is not the place to talk about him. This is a Times of Grace song, which is Jesse and Adam. Now, as far as i'm concerned, all the songs on the album are lyrically and instrumentally superb. With Adam doing ALL the instrumentals and Jesse bringing his excellent voice and scream to the album, it is all over incredible. Though Adam started writing the lyrics, you can tell that alot of them where Jesse's. All the shit he went through comes out in this album.
I think the reason a lot of people prefer Jesse over Howard, myself included, is because Jesse is able to paint a picture of 2 separate sides to a situation. Ex: Hate and love. He also emphasises this through the use of screams for the negativity and clean vocals for positive lyrics (not all the time, but a lot of the album is like that).
That's not to say that Howard is able to paint a story in your mind as well, because he can...really well I might add. Both are great singer though =).
@cbr689 I understand where your coming from, and i wasnt directing that statement just at you, I have just seen numerous people say that and I have never been able to understand what they ment. Although I completly disagree I can see what you mean lyrically from Killswitches older stuff. But you got to agree Howard is amazing as well.
why do some people say that jesse is so much more passionate than howard? What is it that he does that howard doesnt that makes him so much more passionate? in my opinion howard is a much stronger single in his clean vocals and his screams. yall are just hating on him because he is a black dude and if i can accept black dudes, being from alabama, in metal then you should be able to
lol, that's a major assumption that everyone hates black people. I've already stated how I feel about Howard, he's great. I prefer Jesse because I feel that he gives it his all when writing/performing songs. I also find his lyrical content much deeper than Howard's. No offence, just a preference. ;)
@Mr666lee666 many of us just prefer Jesse's vocals, I think that you are just assuming that everyone hates black people because that makes you feel superior to us since you claim to be able 2 "accept black dudes"
well here is the thing, just about every person likes Howard a lot, many (including myself) just like Jesse better.
Adam left Howard in the past, but his new music too melodic for Jesse. His project sounds like it was made for technical Howard vocals, and not enought row anger that was on AOJB, Really sad...
I cant stop listening to Times of Grace!! Finally a worthy follow up to Alive or Just Breathing! Howard is a good singer, he just sounds like he is trying to hard. And the lyrical content went straight down the shitter when Jesse left KSE. Howards got nothing on Jesse's writing ability and passion!
This is probably one of the most meaningful and beautiful songs i've listened to, it's amazing how your love and passion for music can turn into this. AMAZING.
@cbr689 very true. Sucks howard had to take a break from the tour and everything. Both of them bring something unique to the band, in their own ways made the band what it is today.
@cbr689 but you also have to remember that you can have all the passion in the world and still not be very good. What it comes down to is that Jesse had his sound and Howard has his, and they are equally different and equally the same because of this difference. After that being said everyone must make a choice on whom they like. It doesn't effect how good or bad the band is simply by their singer, it just says what kinda singer YOU like.
@cbr689 anyone notice that adam also had a great voice listen to his backing vocals with kse and now with times of grace thumbs up for adam to en of course jesse have always beeing one of the greatest voices
@Tom59593 howard and jesse are both great singers. howard has a deeper voice. i think jesse fit with kse better. howards voice just a lot of times sounded like i didn't quite go with kse as well. howard sings bad ass with blood has been shed though.
um adam is fuckin awesome regardless of what band hes in. i admit killswitch was much better with jesse but people move on. there was no creativity lost!
um adam is fuckin awesome regardless of what band hes in. i admit killswitch was much better with jesse but people move on. there was no creativity lost!
@shawnbrown85 killswitch began and ended with alive or just breathing, the next two albums are like nothing compared and finally the last album is for brats like u, besides i thought adam finished, times of grace its a great quality album you can sense the freedom at composition in all songs, killswitch last album its like forced music, only out because of a contract, go read a book about penises u cunt
@FeelMetalMan Adam D took all of the skill of all the big name bands that he has recorded of the years like august burns red, parkway drive, meshugah, born of osiris and many others then he combined it with his skills at berkley and his skills of making some awesome material over the past 10 years. Then he made Hymn of Mankind in which he demonstrates he is a god amongst men at guitar. Jesse leach hasn't lost a step either.
Nice red food colouring
SHA3DHaWK95 2 days ago
thumbs for the d*ck on the 2:08 :P
axldrako123 3 weeks ago
Anybody know where to find good tabs for this song? I can't find anything. :l
MErickson11 3 weeks ago
im sorry if i seem like a hater but i feel like this song would be so much better if the screaming was faded behind cleans with less heavy guitars
XxROCKFTWxX 3 weeks ago
Too many people look for literal meaning in each lyric, each line, each song. Adam fathered this after his emergency back surgery....it truly speaks to me of a man who has looked death in the face and is broken and batter, and is pondering everything in his life. Jesse wrote the lyrics, and therefor took that theme and infused his own introspections. It's nothing more than a perspective of life.
TehIgginator 1 month ago
who is the one dislike because they have no taste this is very beautiful
awsomecore17 1 month ago
scissors, a bathtub and finger painting with red paint. what more does a metal clip need?
samblah 1 month ago
@samblah tacos
TheDrsalvation 3 weeks ago
i can sorta play the intro to this on guitar,ive learned it by ear
iloveguitar2006 1 month ago
Such an amazing song.. and then I saw the :O face...
deseminempred 1 month ago
Amazing song!! This band rules!! Jesse has an amazing voice!!\m/ Stay Metal! Get Stoked\m/
MrGetstoked79 2 months ago
:O
AmoebaPsAmoeba 4 months ago
the day i find tabs for this i will be the happiest man alive,can anyone find tabs
???
iloveguitar2006 4 months ago
best band ever. so glad i got to meet them in new orleans!
SniperKush420 5 months ago
who disliked this vid?!??! o.o
TWtonyTW 5 months ago
@TWtonyTW Some failed abortion probably
dachachamonk 2 months ago
wats the meaning of the videos i say its fake
WARZ54 5 months ago
@WARZ54 dude buy it urself.....jesus.. :<
PendulumBlade 4 months ago
@WARZ54 there is no one certain meaning, its all up to interpretation, so if its fake to u, then it is, but its not for me
TheLegacyofgaming 1 month ago
this is how metalcore must be, perfect song i can listen to this song all day for years can wait for another album
stofkeification 5 months ago
0 dislikes! never seen a youtube video with no dislikes!!!
Eroborus 6 months ago
I love how they have a music video for like every song :)
METAL4TheWORLD666 6 months ago
Thumbs up for the ":o" face on the bathtub at 00:50
Dannnyboyyyy 7 months ago 63
@Dannnyboyyyy
hahah, never noticed that. :D
cbr689 7 months ago 2
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Reaperofriffs4 4 months ago
@Dannnyboyyyy Lmao.. Don't think that's a face..But I'll let you have your moment and just agree with you! Thumbs Up.
That1JohnGuy 6 months ago
@Dannnyboyyyy actually it's a hidden mickey
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@Dannnyboyyyy
It's DeadMau5
Reaperofriffs4 4 months ago
@Dannnyboyyyy Thats for the hot and cold water knobs and the bottom is where the water comes out...
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Number1Addiction 1 month ago
2:07, ballsack of bloood. one of my favorite ToG songs. so heavy and deep
DjAbeLincoln17 7 months ago
I have always thought jesse was a way better vocalist.. i have been trying to keep an ear out for anything he had been doing then this blew my mind... Jesse please never leave the music scene ever again.
finklesteenDK420 7 months ago 4
For as much as i love Howard, this is not the place to talk about him. This is a Times of Grace song, which is Jesse and Adam. Now, as far as i'm concerned, all the songs on the album are lyrically and instrumentally superb. With Adam doing ALL the instrumentals and Jesse bringing his excellent voice and scream to the album, it is all over incredible. Though Adam started writing the lyrics, you can tell that alot of them where Jesse's. All the shit he went through comes out in this album.
CapnRiggs2k5 7 months ago 2
Both Jesse and Howard should bow down to Adam. His vocals send chills down my spine every time. Way better than the both of them.
musicmama888 8 months ago
My ear's will have this song's babies.
musicmama888 8 months ago
Why do people have to even bring up the whole Howard vs Jesse situation. Times of Grace has nothing to do with Howard! Let sleeping dogs lie!
kiwikailee 8 months ago
Why do people have to even bring up the whole Howard vs Jesse situation. Times of Grace has nothing to do with Howard! Let sleeping dogs lie!
kiwikailee 8 months ago
I think the reason a lot of people prefer Jesse over Howard, myself included, is because Jesse is able to paint a picture of 2 separate sides to a situation. Ex: Hate and love. He also emphasises this through the use of screams for the negativity and clean vocals for positive lyrics (not all the time, but a lot of the album is like that).
That's not to say that Howard is able to paint a story in your mind as well, because he can...really well I might add. Both are great singer though =).
MetalMinion3 8 months ago
Jesse's vocals you FEEL, Howards you admire.
DownInAHole82 8 months ago 4
And the Bathtub was like ":O"
Wunschkind2006 8 months ago
ADAM all the way motherfuckers!!
mgs19901 8 months ago
Looks like the bath tubs in shock
Metalfeak3 9 months ago
@cbr689 I understand where your coming from, and i wasnt directing that statement just at you, I have just seen numerous people say that and I have never been able to understand what they ment. Although I completly disagree I can see what you mean lyrically from Killswitches older stuff. But you got to agree Howard is amazing as well.
Mr666lee666 9 months ago
why do some people say that jesse is so much more passionate than howard? What is it that he does that howard doesnt that makes him so much more passionate? in my opinion howard is a much stronger single in his clean vocals and his screams. yall are just hating on him because he is a black dude and if i can accept black dudes, being from alabama, in metal then you should be able to
Mr666lee666 9 months ago
@Mr666lee666
lol, that's a major assumption that everyone hates black people. I've already stated how I feel about Howard, he's great. I prefer Jesse because I feel that he gives it his all when writing/performing songs. I also find his lyrical content much deeper than Howard's. No offence, just a preference. ;)
cbr689 9 months ago 3
@cbr689 Jesse didn't write the lyrics for "Times Of Grace," Adam did. "I find his lyrical content much deeper" :(
mjsstujo1 7 months ago
@mjsstujo1
Both Jesse and Adam wrote lyrics for the album.
cbr689 7 months ago
@Mr666lee666 You can't deny true pain, you feel that with jesse, howard just has a great voice.
DownInAHole82 8 months ago
@Mr666lee666 many of us just prefer Jesse's vocals, I think that you are just assuming that everyone hates black people because that makes you feel superior to us since you claim to be able 2 "accept black dudes"
well here is the thing, just about every person likes Howard a lot, many (including myself) just like Jesse better.
67Sman 8 months ago
Wish Adam would sing some Killswitch songs like he did in this album
rrichards032 9 months ago
Jessie is better than Howard all around. Cant deny it. he has more passion.
ShaneColletta 9 months ago
It's better to bring Jesse in KSE and leave Times of Grace for Howard, IMO.
WyattCrow 9 months ago
@WyattCrow
i think that can be work .! xD
MegaSmiRny 9 months ago
Adam left Howard in the past, but his new music too melodic for Jesse. His project sounds like it was made for technical Howard vocals, and not enought row anger that was on AOJB, Really sad...
WyattCrow 9 months ago
Crazy how serious Adam can be when writing his music, etc. Then on stage, he acts so bizzare xD I love it
Shadowsofheartagram 10 months ago
Please please please!
Dont steal from this band!
BUY THE ALBUM!
Go steal Little wanes album instead, nvm why would you want to still from that ho...?
SaintsXstreet 10 months ago 4
I cant stop listening to Times of Grace!! Finally a worthy follow up to Alive or Just Breathing! Howard is a good singer, he just sounds like he is trying to hard. And the lyrical content went straight down the shitter when Jesse left KSE. Howards got nothing on Jesse's writing ability and passion!
studiomagic512 10 months ago 3
This is probably one of the most meaningful and beautiful songs i've listened to, it's amazing how your love and passion for music can turn into this. AMAZING.
GodsIastBreath 10 months ago
DAMN Adam is the real energy behind both the bands.. And by God what an amazing musician he is..!
bluedeathvalley 10 months ago
not denying times of grace is sick...but...howie added to kse what jesse never could...and that is hardcore technicals and perfect melodic vocals...
Tom59593 10 months ago 11
@Tom59593
I like Howard. He's an excellent vocalist.
But all the technicality in the world doesn't compare to the passion Jesse brings to his projects. =)
cbr689 10 months ago 39
@cbr689 very true. Sucks howard had to take a break from the tour and everything. Both of them bring something unique to the band, in their own ways made the band what it is today.
xxrammsteinmanxx 10 months ago
@cbr689 but you also have to remember that you can have all the passion in the world and still not be very good. What it comes down to is that Jesse had his sound and Howard has his, and they are equally different and equally the same because of this difference. After that being said everyone must make a choice on whom they like. It doesn't effect how good or bad the band is simply by their singer, it just says what kinda singer YOU like.
AWF0ARCK 7 months ago
@AWF0ARCK
I find your comment completely irrelevant. Just rehashing things that have already been said. :P
cbr689 7 months ago
@cbr689 anyone notice that adam also had a great voice listen to his backing vocals with kse and now with times of grace thumbs up for adam to en of course jesse have always beeing one of the greatest voices
stofkeification 6 months ago
@cbr689
Couldn't agree with you more on that.
Puupihaldjas 3 months ago
@cbr689 D:--<
malcolm9001 1 month ago
@cbr689 well fucking said
KiLLuMinAti811 3 weeks ago
@cbr689 Which is why i'm glad Jesse is back. Jesse has always been KSE's soul whether he was a part of the band or not.
M3TALwILL 4 hours ago
@Tom59593 i couldnt agree more
depewfootball59 10 months ago
@Tom59593 howard and jesse are both great singers. howard has a deeper voice. i think jesse fit with kse better. howards voice just a lot of times sounded like i didn't quite go with kse as well. howard sings bad ass with blood has been shed though.
james6128402 8 months ago
@Tom59593 mhm, gotta disagree with you... but atleast Howard is emotionally stable ^^
Waqirra2 6 months ago
um adam is fuckin awesome regardless of what band hes in. i admit killswitch was much better with jesse but people move on. there was no creativity lost!
ViciousCircle00 11 months ago
um adam is fuckin awesome regardless of what band hes in. i admit killswitch was much better with jesse but people move on. there was no creativity lost!
ViciousCircle00 11 months ago
arms out stretched... to embrace.. the end of days! I love that part.
GodsIastBreath 11 months ago
dude play this song at the same time as basshead by bassnectar
ihatenatwolf 11 months ago
@shawnbrown85 killswitch began and ended with alive or just breathing, the next two albums are like nothing compared and finally the last album is for brats like u, besides i thought adam finished, times of grace its a great quality album you can sense the freedom at composition in all songs, killswitch last album its like forced music, only out because of a contract, go read a book about penises u cunt
FeelMetalMan 11 months ago
dammit! May the Force be with you, no "live long and prosper"! lol jk :-P
zakkwyldewannabe 11 months ago
@zakkwyldewannabe
lol =)
cbr689 11 months ago
@shawnbrown85 attention: Overreacting.
ImperialstarTama 11 months ago
killswitch engage are my favourite band ever for a 17 year old like me to love them!!!
but this new band adam is in is awesome, cant compare howard and jesse both incredible singers!
gbfrules08 1 year ago
This music is incredibly talent-filled!
ryanexsus 1 year ago
Fuck. Dutkiewicz is the Devin Townsend of New England
cvg1099 1 year ago
all i can say is...WOW.....beautiful absolutly beautiful!!!!
nate5539 1 year ago
for the sake of adam he must leave killswitch engage, it compresses his creativity
FeelMetalMan 1 year ago
@FeelMetalMan your nuts
Airman32292 1 year ago
@Airman32292 u want them?
alex444777 1 year ago
@alex444777 wow you're stupid
Airman32292 1 year ago
@FeelMetalMan Adam D took all of the skill of all the big name bands that he has recorded of the years like august burns red, parkway drive, meshugah, born of osiris and many others then he combined it with his skills at berkley and his skills of making some awesome material over the past 10 years. Then he made Hymn of Mankind in which he demonstrates he is a god amongst men at guitar. Jesse leach hasn't lost a step either.
apolllos7 1 year ago
@apolllos7 lol its hymn of a broken man Mr. Know It All.
mylusernameslJustin 1 year ago
@mylusernameslJustin yeah
apolllos7 1 year ago
@FeelMetalMan In which way?
jhmalogan 1 year ago
@FeelMetalMan sry man thats bullshit.
PimScotney 11 months ago
Just saw the video on the bonus DVD to the Album...
this is art...i just love it
GuitarFanatic93 1 year ago 3
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i love these two man*
metalmyheart 1 year ago 2
i love this two man
metalmyheart 1 year ago
awesome :)
killswitchremains7 1 year ago 6