They only got it from the Port when they were with the co-op... but seeing as Avon wanted to war with Marlo... the co-op voted to have Barksdale crew kicked out of the co-op, thus they needed a line outta New York.
Man, we barely saw Mouzone in the series. People talked about him like he was Omar Little and the writers only put him in two stories: protecting the towers and getting revenge.
Notice the sigh of relief on Avon's face when Mouzune was implying for Stringer's head. It is what it is. But Avon was driven to make amends with his sister for the death of D'Angelo. Even though D'Angelo was the one who ended up losing his mind. He was their weakest link. And Stringer did the right thing by taking him out. He should've taken out Avon and joined forces with Marlo and Prop Joe. Avon was nothing but a street corner delinquent who was trapped in the 5th grade.
why didn't avon just get mouzone so nobody could cut off his NY connection. instead he gave up String like it weren't no thing...i expected avon to be stronger than this. at this point he didn't know string was turning him into bunny yet
if Avon was only concerned with this --- that is what he would have done..
but he was already coming to the conclusion that String was not playing the same game as him --- this was the revelation of one more betrayal of him by String.
It was a hard decision to make, but it had to be made, and he probably felt a tad bit better about it since he had D killed...String was about to run off the cliff anyway smh
damn loyalty is hard to find...man they really came from the mud with each other and Stringer was more harsh than Avon...just look at what he would do to get out of tough situations he killed D'Angelo then slept with his baby mom he had Wallace killed he was pretty gangsta just with class...with Avon it was bout family but Stringer it was bout getting ahead in life...out of the game... Stringer was a business man Avon family man
Here, Avon seems to have undermined his loyalty to the rules of the game. Avon asks "you want money?", knowing that the street is the street, ALWAYS. He seems like a victim who 'sold out to save himself. He wanted to avoid the rules because of his personal involvement in this mess. Personal or not, the game is the game.
@logic2000 Yeah, but he had two options - the towers or stringer? Him and stringer built the Barksdale empire. Without each other - no empire. I think it was selfish of avon. D'angelo was going to betray family. People have relatives that are no closer than friends. Relatives can be worser than friends. But this is arguable.
In Season one, D'angelo foreshadowed what all the players in the game role was, Bodie is a Pawn, The Stash House is the Castle,Stringer is Queen which in Reality is a Pawn with all the right moves and Avon is King !.. Brother Mouzone would of destroyed the game for avon if he didn't give up Stringer and Don't get me wrong !.. I like stringer and I wish he would of escaped from Omar & Brother Mouzone, but it was his time to go. Besides he gave up Avon to the Cops. They Finished Each-Other.
In The Game of chess you have to play to win, Unforunately Stringer was a Queen on the board, He had all the moves but at the end he was just another sacrificial piece on the chess board, Avon had to protect his empire and save himself as King !.. He moved his people where they needed to be to save himself.
Which was a sucker move of all the moves in the show. I never liked Avon and I have no idea why people did like him. I wish Omar got him at the pay phone. Omar wanted to walk up close when he clearly coulda got him from a few feet away. Shit came back on Stringer, no doubt. But atleast he was trying to get out the game
Avon was caught between a rock and a hard place between honoring his word or allowing his friend to be killed by Omar and Brother Mouzone. In the end he took the lesser of the two evils to ensure that his empire (If not temporarily) continued to stay in business.
YOUR MAN TOLD OMAR LITTLE THAT I WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE TORTURE OF YOUNG BOY WHO WAS CLOSE TO MR LITTLE'S HEART...lol shit makes me laugh each time...
Stringer was a smart dude and wanted his own business but he screwed up. He set Mouzone up, not Avon. And second Stringer and Avon were close and Stringer hired someone to kill DeAngelo. Atleast Avon was willing to pay or whatever for Stringer.
not only that avon and prop joe were rivals...if he went along with prop joe he would've gotten good dope but would have lost his corners which was the stable of avon's character..pride
@704Hustle Thing thing we learned throughout this show tho was that no matter how good your product was, if you didn't have the corners, it didn't mean shit. You can't look at it like a regular business model. That was Stringer's mistake.
Google Muhammad's Temple #12 in Philadelphia (Black Mafia). Brotha Mouzone's character is indeed real and is alive today. My pop was a bartender at the Garden State Lounge in South Camden, NJ in the 60's. All those Islam gangsters came there to drink. He told me some stories about those people that was unreal.
@huemanxxx I was about to note that in Islam you aren't supposed to drink or be a gangster (so those Islam gangsters at the bar must not be taking their religion seriously etc) but then I remembered that only the former was true. If making your enemies submit by force and making them pay you "protection" money isn't gangster I dunno what is, so Mouzone is totally following Muhammed there. And he is kinda like Gus but more badass. He also reminds me of Anton Chigurh.
@ravenouscolonelhart The behaviour of the character Brother Mouzone, despite being partially filled with principles is in complete violation with Islam (which means submitting to God). If you want to know more on Islam, I may advise you to google "the deen show". being Canadian, you also will appreciate to watch Dr Abdullah Hakim Quick ( afro & native American) who lives in Toronto and has done a great job by compiling and digging the pre Columbus Islamic presence in America
@ravenouscolonelhart Always remember what most of the 9/11 terrorists did before they murdered 3000. They went to a strip club, got laid and drank Chrystal all night
@ravenouscolonelhart Speaking as a Muslim, Islam condemns all that Mouzone is about. - He is a gangster with a suit and bow tie on. Shooting and killing, especially when there's room for forgiveness is AGAINST Islam. There was room for forgiveness in Mouzone's case.
This is one of the very few scenes in the Wire where Avon gets verbally checked. He tries his best to take command of the scene and intimidate Brother Mouzone, but it just doesn't work. Mouzone holds his own really well.
Avon had no choice here. Mouzone was more influential than him. If he had refused to give his childhood friend up and done something to Mouzone than his reputation among New York gangsters and drug dealers would have been hurt.
This shows how Avon had to get rid of stringer because of business needing to keep his rep and good name for the connects to stay messing with him. The same way Stringer had to kill Dangelo because of business so Dangelo couldn't snitch. It's never nothing personal just BUSINESS.
Avon strikes me as a character that values family above all, he is not a sociopath like Marlo so he does have loyalties. Therefore I don't think he would have killed D'angelo even if D was about to snitch, he may have found another solution but not killing.
With Stringer, that bond is weaker. I mean that Avon would've killed Stringer way before he even thought about killing D'angelo. A friend is replaceable, a nephew is not.
@yangdax Life's too short to replace a friend like stringer. Avon knew stringer longer than he knew d'angelo. You can't guarantee to regain another 20 yrs of friendship with someone else. Arguably, relatives are just as untrustworthy and capable of betrayal as friends. Some people have friends that are closer to them than their relatives.
HEY AVON! How about this as an idea? Give Stringer up to him, then go tell Stringer you gave him up to set up a counter plan and set up mouzone and omar.
wow. alotta hate from viewers as to stringer. i think he was a far more competent and savvy then yall do - if it wasnt for avon's megalomaniacal gangsterism the barksdale empire would have lived on
Stringers problem was that he never checked his own head going through it. He was that smart and he was going along the right track where you want to try to move your illicit gains into legitimate businesses. You can't jerk around your friends, you can't try to be Mr. Political intrigue. You have to keep seeing all the angles because once you can no longer see them, that's when you fuck up and get dead.
He had the right idea, but in his vanity, he went about it in the completely wrong way.
@phuturephunk So true. On top this vanity was his naivety. He believed that the rules of the legitimate business world were the same as those neat economic principles he learned in community college. Little did he understand that it was another game but with different rules. He was like a fish without water. Its like Avon told him, "You are a man without a country".
I Put Stringer Bell on the same level as Manolo in Scarface and G-Money in New Jack City, these guys constantly Phuck'd up and didnt stick to the rules of the Game. Stringer messed up in Season 1 with Orlando and all that, that resulted in a cop getting shot. Cops started to pay more attention. He messed up with letting Prop Joe into those towers, he messed up with Marlo (not taking care of that sooner) he had Dee killed and he was phucking his baby moms. It was his time, he had to go.
Actually it was Bey and Savino who messed up. I also believe it was Little Man who shot the cop even if Bey and Savino indirectly tried to make him not to do it. Bell ordered Bey to get rid of the evidence and if not for D'Angelo they would have goten away with it. Bell told Bey to find a place he had no connections to. Al Capone messed up with taxes so Stringer messed up with Mouzone. That was his only fatal mistake.
@TheLokked i disagree. #1 How did Stringer fuck up with orlando? Lol, as I recall Orlando wanted to do some 'extra shit' on the side to earn more money and eventually got busted by cops and Avon. Then he decided to snitch. Wee bey and Littleman accidentally shot Kima because they just wanted to kill Orlando for snitching. Dude wtf are you talking about? The cops were already paying more attention when Mcnulty brought it up to the judge in season 1.
@shegwin , Even Avon pointed it out to Stringer on how he could not have known that it was a set up from the get go. Orlando had no connects and no money to facilitate a deal like that. If Stringer would have to told about the thing in the first place things wouldve been done differently and Kema would not have gotten shot. And i already know that they were being talked about, but when a cop gets shot you get more attention. Period.
@TheLokked IF ANYTHING, stringer was the most smartest you dumbass. Don't you remember Stringer going to the low rises and instructing Dee to go and withold payment and see whose flashing cash around? That shit worked. Remember when he instructed them to remove all the payphones out of the lowrises and make them walk longer distances to payphones that werent tapped? He also got Wallace killed who was going to be a snitch.
@shegwin, LOL, now im a dumbass for having an opinion. Well to be honest, it wasnt about the money completely with Avon the way it was with Stringer. Also to be honest everything that Stringer did regarding most things was talked about with Avon. Avon has been leary about the pay phones because he himself didnt like using the same one. Avon was already questioning about snitches.
@TheLokked Stringer was able to lead the barksdale crew to so much money and profit. remember NOBODY WAS WATHCING THEM. Marlo had taken the streets but marlo was making no profit, why? CAUSE STRINGER HAD PROP JOE'S CONNECTION. Therefore they had a way better product and he was still making so much money. Avon could not stand the idea of not having his streets that he fucked the whole thing up by starting a war.
@shegwin You're missing the theme of Stringer's character. Sure, he was highly intelligent. The point being is that he basically tried to outsmart himself and the Game by reforming it into some kind of business. The fact that he died in the end (symbolically in eyeshot of his B&B ad) shows that there is no reforming the game, ever. Also, Stringer did fuck up a number of times because he used business mentality over street smarts. He tried to have Omar killed on a Sunday for example, a big no-no.
@shegwin thats def true witch was why in season 4 when Marlo had to talk to that russian cat about a connect barksdale told him send my aunte 100racks and i make sure next time u come to prison you can holla at the russian dude yosef+ barksdale low key dont like eastside prop joe= he west side along with marlo. As for stringer bell his business greed along with liein and cheating the game earned him an ambush! Barksdale wanted 2 help stringer but it was no changeing brother Mouzons mind!
@shegwin , Let me re-iterate money wasnt the most important thing to Avon. You might have the better product but that dont mean anything if you dont have the best real estate. Proven after the towers went down.
@kandinskyforfootball , Honestly Dangelo did phuck up a few times. Avon had the right to get rid of him also. Avon was always the type of put family and certain people ahead of the game. If he wasnt family we wouldve been dead.
@TheLokked Actually, Stringer and Avon were fucking each other up. Stringer is getting in the way of Avon trying to do street shit while Avon is getting in the way of Stringer to take a more civilized and expansive business approach. The final irony is that they give each other up for the games that they're in: Avon to Brother Mouzone (notice that Brother doesn't give a fuck about business) and Stringer to Bunny (trying to get Avon locked up on that street shit).
@MrJooxman Thank fuck you explained the whole thing to me. Otherwise I might have to have watched it and used my mind to understand the programme. WE ALL GET IT FUCKNUTS! Stop trying to look clever by posting the utterly obvious on youtube feeds. When you precede any argument with "actually", you have to propose an alternative view, not the conventional wisdom. Hence your silly "what happened is..." just makes you look like a twat. Kiss Kiss!
Avon gave up Stringer because Stringer had his nephew killed and didn't tell him. And, when he did, he rubbed that shit iin when Avon was basically calling him soft. Avon was growing sick of Stringer's getting played by the criminals who play the game on the political and real estate level.
@atmchickluva you got that shit mixed up, stringer was the brains behind it, he had book smarts. avon had street smarts. but both of them still knew a little of both.
"HE DOESNT STRIKE ME AS A MAN WHO WOULD TELL STORIES, EVEN AT THE POINT OF DYING" THATS A REAL QUOTE RIGHT THERE!!! YOU GOTTA LOVE THE WIRE!!! MUOZONE STRAIGHT SHUT THAT NYC CONNECT DOWN! HIS WORD IS BOND!
Stringer was smart but drug game intelligence and business intelligence are two different things...drug dealers are not cut out for the business world and businessmen are much more evil!!!
avon didnt only give up string for money, he gave string up cause if he didnt he would have been dead. u think brother and omar wouldnt do anything to someone who has the info on the person there tryin to get revenge on?
@turner45555 i think he gave up stringer b/c of what stinger did to d.....that was the ultimate decision....if stringer never got bodied d ....i think avon wouldve lied about stringer whereabouts at least.... but at the end of the day stringer fucked up by killin one of avon relatives...
Ppl love to praise Avon as that dude. But we do realize that in the end Avon gave up Stringer, his brother, for money and business. All he did was strike quicker than Stringer. Both of them are snakes.
@ojonesjr string was going to die regardless , he tried to save string but couldnt even though HE KILLED HIS NEPHEW thats loyalty.....if you remember correctly brother mouzone was not to be fuck with he had tons of bodys... stringer double crossed him and he was bound to die
@razorsharpandonpoint "tons of bodys" aint enough, to quote Prop Joe "more bodies then a Chinese cemetery". Your right String had to go, man was not cut out for the Game, he did not even know about Mouzones rep.
@ojonesjr nah...stringer made his own bed...Avon told him not to deal with prop joe...trying to buy time to get a good pakage...stringer only saw the money aspect snaked his own boy to get it...hell at least avon tried to save him but stringer hadjust gone too far...he wouldve been dead and out of his connect....stringer made his own bed...now he lies in it...
For those who don't quite understand: Avon was given a choice by New York to either allow Brother to kill Stringer Bell OR Avon would lose all his connections in New York("your reputation got you a line to..."). If Avon wanted to keep his reputation as a straight-up player, he had to let Stringer go.
Wow, seemed like Avon cared more about saving his reputation in New york than the fact that Stringer had his nephew killed. I guess in a way, Avon agreed with Stringer's logic behind killing his nephew but at the same time, he still had to punish Stringer for it, so I guess making stringer look stupid in front of slim charles was one of his ways of punishing Stringer.
Honestly I think STringer trying to change the game(realestate) got him killed....it was just not knowing his place and going against the King(Avon)..that did it.
Man the Barksdales had developed such STRONG REPUTATIONS THROUGHOUT THE EAST COAST, BUT IN LESS than a year, Stringer Bell was able to nullify that reputation. Man Stringer to Barksdale is Judas Iscariot to Jesus.
"Business is where you are now. But what got you here is your word & your reputation. With that alone, you've still got an open line to New York. Without it, you're done." Brother Mouzone
i disagree with the outlook that avon gave up stringer just to protect his rep. stringer made plays that avon fundamentally disagreed with. stringer killed D. stringer easily gave up turf that was won through blood just to increase revenue. the NY connect was important to avon, but seeing how he reacted to losing his older connect in season 2, i'm willing to bet he would have defended stringer if it weren't for the way stringer played the game.
@thevividdream kudos to you! that's exactly right @ your last sentence. Avon was a strict adherent to the rules of the game! Stringer was a strict adherent to changing the rules to suit his personal interests. You cannot survive long (financially or physically with Stringer's outlook) trying to change the game. Same with the mob. You have to stick to the game. More bodies start to drop when they try to change it.
Avon was loyal to Stringer to the end, he had to sacrifice Stringer or lose everything. Easy choice to make, especially with Marlo creeping in, the last thing Avon needed was a Omar teaming up with Brother, the two Could easily take out all the corners then Avon & String.
Avon could've fixed this. He had a choice: Stringer or his rep? Avon chose his rep. After all Avon and Stringer have been through, Avon decides to give him up. Seems like their brotherhood was bulls***. Avon should've listened to stringer about this beef over corners. "There are games beyond the game". But Prop Joe told stringer that avon is a soldier.
@kandinskyforfootball yeah, stringer being unloyal and having Deangelo behind avon's back sure made this choice hard for avon. give up stringer or lose everything--fortunately he was able to get both.
@kandinskyforfootball It wasn't just his rep. If he didn't make this right with Mouzone, he would have lost his NY connect and then he would have had no choice but to go to Prop Joe and at that point Joe would have made him his bitch.
@kandinskyforfootball Stringer didn't give a fuck about Avon either. String snitched on Avon so he could regain power and recover his losses from the Davis deal. Stringer was disloyal and selfish. Fuck Stringer for snitching on his boy. I think Avon should have whacked String once he found out about DeAngelo. Blood runs thicker than water. D took 20 years for Avon. Stringer had D whacked because Stringer was a scared bitch.
@kandinskyforfootball Do you realize that this was after Stringer had D'Angelo murdered? Like he said "It's all just business". Stringer did what he had to do. Avon did what he had to do. The game is the game.
@TheCasatres I can think of 2 reasons why Avon gave Stringer up.
1. Reputation: Stringer really screwed himself when he tried to turn Omar on Bro Mouzone. If Avon tried to protect Stringer, it would have cost Avon a lot in terms of street connections-especially New York contacts (not to mention his own safety).
2. Stringer told Avon that he had D'angelo (Avon's nephew) killed. Although Stringer had it done to save himself and Avon, it probably left a chip on Avon's shoulders.
its the fact that brother mouzone walks around with a suit and tie and with a posh accent that makes it seem fake. they probably based him on a real life character, but it still doesn't feel right
oh shit omar was out side omar aint have beef wit him cuz brotha mouzone had respect for him and he let avon slide they coulda kelled him but omar wasnt like dat real talk look at omar inna back
"You want me to go up against Brotha? Nigga got more bodies on 'em than a Chinese cemetery."
Brother and Omar was the greatest superhero team-up in history.
MrKaneShadow 3 days ago
They only got it from the Port when they were with the co-op... but seeing as Avon wanted to war with Marlo... the co-op voted to have Barksdale crew kicked out of the co-op, thus they needed a line outta New York.
mallet9191 6 days ago
Why does Avon need a " Open line " to New York? I thought they got it all shipped in by the greeks at the port.
ATSV4ME 1 week ago
@ATSV4ME he started his off in NY, plus, if the Greeks line were to fall off he would be on top based on his NY association!
mississippiBull 3 days ago
Man, we barely saw Mouzone in the series. People talked about him like he was Omar Little and the writers only put him in two stories: protecting the towers and getting revenge.
GreekFire25 1 week ago
@GreekFire25 The show was about Baltimore. Mouzone was from New York.
afterapplepicking 1 week ago
Notice the sigh of relief on Avon's face when Mouzune was implying for Stringer's head. It is what it is. But Avon was driven to make amends with his sister for the death of D'Angelo. Even though D'Angelo was the one who ended up losing his mind. He was their weakest link. And Stringer did the right thing by taking him out. He should've taken out Avon and joined forces with Marlo and Prop Joe. Avon was nothing but a street corner delinquent who was trapped in the 5th grade.
FUCKxUxNxURxMOTHERx2 1 week ago
Avon has some big fucking hands...
WLYBEE 2 weeks ago 3
Avon was Avon....true to the code he made his loyalties...same with Stringer...the politics each played netted the returns...
the "game" is filthy...nothing pleasant about it
T74G 2 weeks ago
@kandinskyforfootball dont forget though that stringer gave colvin the safe house where avon was so he betrayed avon too
gxenoraf22 2 weeks ago
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veldross1 3 weeks ago 33
@veldross1 LMAO!!
uesat1 6 days ago
why didn't avon just get mouzone so nobody could cut off his NY connection. instead he gave up String like it weren't no thing...i expected avon to be stronger than this. at this point he didn't know string was turning him into bunny yet
ZidaneHenryFrance 3 weeks ago
@ZidaneHenryFrance
if Avon was only concerned with this --- that is what he would have done..
but he was already coming to the conclusion that String was not playing the same game as him --- this was the revelation of one more betrayal of him by String.
suziecreamchease 2 weeks ago
Brother Mouzone was the worst charecter in the wire. He just didn´t fit in with the rest of the characters and show
basquat76 4 weeks ago
@basquat76 prolly cause he's not a b-more character
mrfish4lyfe 4 days ago
It was a hard decision to make, but it had to be made, and he probably felt a tad bit better about it since he had D killed...String was about to run off the cliff anyway smh
MsTreynatra 1 month ago
@MsTreynatra This shit had NOTHING to do with that faggot D'Angelo getting killed
uesat1 6 days ago
@uesat1 I know its not the main reason why but be forreal now it had SOMETHING to do with it
MsTreynatra 6 days ago
Is This Scene After The Death Of DeAngelo? Anybody
BlackPride1000 1 month ago
@BlackPride1000 no, this is one of the scenes that precedes the death of Stringer
Glorenzelg1 1 month ago
@BlackPride1000 Yes this was way after DeAngelo's death and the confrontation where Stringer confesses to Avon about putting the hit on DeAngelo.
SabinBlitz81 1 month ago
damn loyalty is hard to find...man they really came from the mud with each other and Stringer was more harsh than Avon...just look at what he would do to get out of tough situations he killed D'Angelo then slept with his baby mom he had Wallace killed he was pretty gangsta just with class...with Avon it was bout family but Stringer it was bout getting ahead in life...out of the game... Stringer was a business man Avon family man
smoney585 1 month ago
What song is playing in the backround?
wmhp1959 1 month ago
Here, Avon seems to have undermined his loyalty to the rules of the game. Avon asks "you want money?", knowing that the street is the street, ALWAYS. He seems like a victim who 'sold out to save himself. He wanted to avoid the rules because of his personal involvement in this mess. Personal or not, the game is the game.
kandinskyforfootball 1 month ago
@kandinskyforfootball True...Only problem is Avon wasn't involved.....That was all on stringer......That was a decision he had to make
logic2000 1 month ago
@logic2000 Yeah, but he had two options - the towers or stringer? Him and stringer built the Barksdale empire. Without each other - no empire. I think it was selfish of avon. D'angelo was going to betray family. People have relatives that are no closer than friends. Relatives can be worser than friends. But this is arguable.
kandinskyforfootball 1 month ago
Brother Mouzon's gotta be the worst character. Too comic book.
Just an opinion.
DrunkenPoetic 1 month ago
@DrunkenPoetic Are u serious?
kandinskyforfootball 1 month ago
One of my FAVOURITE scenes!!!!!!!!!!
Reqrezentin 2 months ago
Us two, motherfucka
superkulmedkniv25 2 months ago
In Season one, D'angelo foreshadowed what all the players in the game role was, Bodie is a Pawn, The Stash House is the Castle,Stringer is Queen which in Reality is a Pawn with all the right moves and Avon is King !.. Brother Mouzone would of destroyed the game for avon if he didn't give up Stringer and Don't get me wrong !.. I like stringer and I wish he would of escaped from Omar & Brother Mouzone, but it was his time to go. Besides he gave up Avon to the Cops. They Finished Each-Other.
spiderman62181 2 months ago
In The Game of chess you have to play to win, Unforunately Stringer was a Queen on the board, He had all the moves but at the end he was just another sacrificial piece on the chess board, Avon had to protect his empire and save himself as King !.. He moved his people where they needed to be to save himself.
spiderman62181 2 months ago
this dude mozone was lame as hell. look at that outfit and the way he talk. lmao
thaistomp 2 months ago
@thaistomp He talks like he's all about business without being high strung or emotional. Something average people don't know how to do.
Meela234 2 months ago
Brother Mouzone would have scared the shit out of me. Too calm.
darrenmother 2 months ago
stringer wud hav lived ......if he was more in the game rather than the business coz business always gets you killed
sonalmar19 3 months ago
was he in the black mafia a supposed group of hired killers who were muslim ?
NotGangster100 3 months ago
Which was a sucker move of all the moves in the show. I never liked Avon and I have no idea why people did like him. I wish Omar got him at the pay phone. Omar wanted to walk up close when he clearly coulda got him from a few feet away. Shit came back on Stringer, no doubt. But atleast he was trying to get out the game
mkvl1490 3 months ago
Avon was caught between a rock and a hard place between honoring his word or allowing his friend to be killed by Omar and Brother Mouzone. In the end he took the lesser of the two evils to ensure that his empire (If not temporarily) continued to stay in business.
davydmx 3 months ago
YOUR MAN TOLD OMAR LITTLE THAT I WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE TORTURE OF YOUNG BOY WHO WAS CLOSE TO MR LITTLE'S HEART...lol shit makes me laugh each time...
dondiego211 3 months ago
anyone know the song playin in the background?
gatchAttk 4 months ago
@gatchAttk "A Place Nobody Can Find" by Sam and Dave
majinshenmue 3 months ago
"Business is where you are now, but what got you here is your word and your reputation." integrity fellas.
mefeline 4 months ago
Omar and Avon are the only 2 Gs that could fuck with Brother mouzone, nobody else , he respected them as they did him
SNOWMANABM 4 months ago
Brother Mouzone you so crazy!!!!!
bigrich0926 4 months ago
"The inner workings of your organization dont concern me" Brother Mouzone is a fuckin gangsta
KarimMakesCream 4 months ago
See ya String!
phunkybiotch 4 months ago
there is no black guy in existence with a library card
babyturtlefilms 4 months ago
@babyturtlefilms Yeah, no one can see the lie that your statement is simply by going to a library.
Racism works better when it is subtle but racists are too stupid to know what subtlety is.
Sabbatai 4 months ago
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mkvl1490 4 months ago
"Honest people do not do business with dishonest people. Your reputation is your foundation." - Robert Kiyosaki
Apexed818 5 months ago 11
Stringer was a smart dude and wanted his own business but he screwed up. He set Mouzone up, not Avon. And second Stringer and Avon were close and Stringer hired someone to kill DeAngelo. Atleast Avon was willing to pay or whatever for Stringer.
Pur3blackd1am0nD 5 months ago
He had his boy aced for that weak ass NY dope? He should have just joined the co op with Prop Joe.
SM87013 5 months ago
@SM87013 you're forgetting one thing though - Mouzone would've come for Avon's ass too!
Apexed818 5 months ago
@Apexed818
not only that avon and prop joe were rivals...if he went along with prop joe he would've gotten good dope but would have lost his corners which was the stable of avon's character..pride
704Hustle 5 months ago
@704Hustle Thing thing we learned throughout this show tho was that no matter how good your product was, if you didn't have the corners, it didn't mean shit. You can't look at it like a regular business model. That was Stringer's mistake.
Antrizzle2009 4 months ago
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SM87013 5 months ago
Google Muhammad's Temple #12 in Philadelphia (Black Mafia). Brotha Mouzone's character is indeed real and is alive today. My pop was a bartender at the Garden State Lounge in South Camden, NJ in the 60's. All those Islam gangsters came there to drink. He told me some stories about those people that was unreal.
huemanxxx 6 months ago
@huemanxxx I was about to note that in Islam you aren't supposed to drink or be a gangster (so those Islam gangsters at the bar must not be taking their religion seriously etc) but then I remembered that only the former was true. If making your enemies submit by force and making them pay you "protection" money isn't gangster I dunno what is, so Mouzone is totally following Muhammed there. And he is kinda like Gus but more badass. He also reminds me of Anton Chigurh.
ravenouscolonelhart 5 months ago
@ravenouscolonelhart The behaviour of the character Brother Mouzone, despite being partially filled with principles is in complete violation with Islam (which means submitting to God). If you want to know more on Islam, I may advise you to google "the deen show". being Canadian, you also will appreciate to watch Dr Abdullah Hakim Quick ( afro & native American) who lives in Toronto and has done a great job by compiling and digging the pre Columbus Islamic presence in America
GTAGIS 5 months ago
@ravenouscolonelhart Always remember what most of the 9/11 terrorists did before they murdered 3000. They went to a strip club, got laid and drank Chrystal all night
WiseGuy5674 5 months ago
@WiseGuy5674 cmon now dick cheney dont drink chrystal.
jubileeshine 4 months ago
@jubileeshine ...fail
WiseGuy5674 4 months ago
@ravenouscolonelhart Speaking as a Muslim, Islam condemns all that Mouzone is about. - He is a gangster with a suit and bow tie on. Shooting and killing, especially when there's room for forgiveness is AGAINST Islam. There was room for forgiveness in Mouzone's case.
kandinskyforfootball 1 month ago
Brother Mouzone wasn't really a believable character imo. Just felt a little too over the top and cartoonish for an otherwise realistic show.
Lifendz 7 months ago
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AziMeX 7 months ago
@Lifendz I don't agree, if you look at the history of the Nation of Islam you will see a lot of characters with his mindset
axemanoz 6 months ago
All Avon carried abt was reputation
SheenaD26 7 months ago
This is one of the very few scenes in the Wire where Avon gets verbally checked. He tries his best to take command of the scene and intimidate Brother Mouzone, but it just doesn't work. Mouzone holds his own really well.
krishnm 7 months ago
Avon had no choice here. Mouzone was more influential than him. If he had refused to give his childhood friend up and done something to Mouzone than his reputation among New York gangsters and drug dealers would have been hurt.
BENNYSIEGEL90 8 months ago
Brother does dress up like a Man going to somebody's "Funeral" especially with a reputation like his.
Crazymike1975 8 months ago
This shows how Avon had to get rid of stringer because of business needing to keep his rep and good name for the connects to stay messing with him. The same way Stringer had to kill Dangelo because of business so Dangelo couldn't snitch. It's never nothing personal just BUSINESS.
duecethird22333 8 months ago
He's so lucky it wasn't Omar. He'd have killed him straight after getting the info. "Stringer's gotta go, Barksdale too".
ThePrinceII 8 months ago
I think there's at least a little revenge factor for d'angelo, stringer did call the hit.
yangdax 9 months ago 16
@yangdax but he was gonna rat on his own uncle too. Stringer did avon a favour. It would've been difficult for Avon to do it, don't you think?
kandinskyforfootball 1 month ago
@kandinskyforfootball
Avon strikes me as a character that values family above all, he is not a sociopath like Marlo so he does have loyalties. Therefore I don't think he would have killed D'angelo even if D was about to snitch, he may have found another solution but not killing.
With Stringer, that bond is weaker. I mean that Avon would've killed Stringer way before he even thought about killing D'angelo. A friend is replaceable, a nephew is not.
yangdax 1 month ago
@yangdax Life's too short to replace a friend like stringer. Avon knew stringer longer than he knew d'angelo. You can't guarantee to regain another 20 yrs of friendship with someone else. Arguably, relatives are just as untrustworthy and capable of betrayal as friends. Some people have friends that are closer to them than their relatives.
kandinskyforfootball 1 month ago
HEY AVON! How about this as an idea? Give Stringer up to him, then go tell Stringer you gave him up to set up a counter plan and set up mouzone and omar.
tahthedon 9 months ago
@tahthedon fail because, in spite of the bluff, stringer still gave avon enough reason to kill him.
reknowvator11 8 months ago
Love how Avon's doing the evil guy finger tent ala Mr. Burns at the beginnig of the scene.
helikestv 9 months ago
wow. alotta hate from viewers as to stringer. i think he was a far more competent and savvy then yall do - if it wasnt for avon's megalomaniacal gangsterism the barksdale empire would have lived on
finarrykahn13 10 months ago
Sam & Dave A Place Nobody Can Find (1965)
antdogg422 10 months ago
Stringers problem was that he never checked his own head going through it. He was that smart and he was going along the right track where you want to try to move your illicit gains into legitimate businesses. You can't jerk around your friends, you can't try to be Mr. Political intrigue. You have to keep seeing all the angles because once you can no longer see them, that's when you fuck up and get dead.
He had the right idea, but in his vanity, he went about it in the completely wrong way.
phuturephunk 10 months ago 3
@phuturephunk So true. On top this vanity was his naivety. He believed that the rules of the legitimate business world were the same as those neat economic principles he learned in community college. Little did he understand that it was another game but with different rules. He was like a fish without water. Its like Avon told him, "You are a man without a country".
ramonalejandrosuare 10 months ago 4
I Put Stringer Bell on the same level as Manolo in Scarface and G-Money in New Jack City, these guys constantly Phuck'd up and didnt stick to the rules of the Game. Stringer messed up in Season 1 with Orlando and all that, that resulted in a cop getting shot. Cops started to pay more attention. He messed up with letting Prop Joe into those towers, he messed up with Marlo (not taking care of that sooner) he had Dee killed and he was phucking his baby moms. It was his time, he had to go.
TheLokked 10 months ago 17
@TheLokked ur damn right!
slimithy12 3 months ago
@TheLokked
Actually it was Bey and Savino who messed up. I also believe it was Little Man who shot the cop even if Bey and Savino indirectly tried to make him not to do it. Bell ordered Bey to get rid of the evidence and if not for D'Angelo they would have goten away with it. Bell told Bey to find a place he had no connections to. Al Capone messed up with taxes so Stringer messed up with Mouzone. That was his only fatal mistake.
BENNYSIEGEL90 3 months ago
@TheLokked i disagree. #1 How did Stringer fuck up with orlando? Lol, as I recall Orlando wanted to do some 'extra shit' on the side to earn more money and eventually got busted by cops and Avon. Then he decided to snitch. Wee bey and Littleman accidentally shot Kima because they just wanted to kill Orlando for snitching. Dude wtf are you talking about? The cops were already paying more attention when Mcnulty brought it up to the judge in season 1.
shegwin 1 month ago
@shegwin , Even Avon pointed it out to Stringer on how he could not have known that it was a set up from the get go. Orlando had no connects and no money to facilitate a deal like that. If Stringer would have to told about the thing in the first place things wouldve been done differently and Kema would not have gotten shot. And i already know that they were being talked about, but when a cop gets shot you get more attention. Period.
TheLokked 1 month ago
@TheLokked IF ANYTHING, stringer was the most smartest you dumbass. Don't you remember Stringer going to the low rises and instructing Dee to go and withold payment and see whose flashing cash around? That shit worked. Remember when he instructed them to remove all the payphones out of the lowrises and make them walk longer distances to payphones that werent tapped? He also got Wallace killed who was going to be a snitch.
shegwin 1 month ago
@shegwin, LOL, now im a dumbass for having an opinion. Well to be honest, it wasnt about the money completely with Avon the way it was with Stringer. Also to be honest everything that Stringer did regarding most things was talked about with Avon. Avon has been leary about the pay phones because he himself didnt like using the same one. Avon was already questioning about snitches.
TheLokked 1 month ago
@TheLokked Stringer was able to lead the barksdale crew to so much money and profit. remember NOBODY WAS WATHCING THEM. Marlo had taken the streets but marlo was making no profit, why? CAUSE STRINGER HAD PROP JOE'S CONNECTION. Therefore they had a way better product and he was still making so much money. Avon could not stand the idea of not having his streets that he fucked the whole thing up by starting a war.
shegwin 1 month ago
@shegwin You're missing the theme of Stringer's character. Sure, he was highly intelligent. The point being is that he basically tried to outsmart himself and the Game by reforming it into some kind of business. The fact that he died in the end (symbolically in eyeshot of his B&B ad) shows that there is no reforming the game, ever. Also, Stringer did fuck up a number of times because he used business mentality over street smarts. He tried to have Omar killed on a Sunday for example, a big no-no.
ChippyBlane 1 month ago
@shegwin thats def true witch was why in season 4 when Marlo had to talk to that russian cat about a connect barksdale told him send my aunte 100racks and i make sure next time u come to prison you can holla at the russian dude yosef+ barksdale low key dont like eastside prop joe= he west side along with marlo. As for stringer bell his business greed along with liein and cheating the game earned him an ambush! Barksdale wanted 2 help stringer but it was no changeing brother Mouzons mind!
Peacetilhavoc5 1 month ago
@shegwin , Let me re-iterate money wasnt the most important thing to Avon. You might have the better product but that dont mean anything if you dont have the best real estate. Proven after the towers went down.
TheLokked 1 month ago
@TheLokked Can you not say the same for D'angelo?
kandinskyforfootball 1 month ago
@kandinskyforfootball , Honestly Dangelo did phuck up a few times. Avon had the right to get rid of him also. Avon was always the type of put family and certain people ahead of the game. If he wasnt family we wouldve been dead.
TheLokked 1 month ago
@TheLokked Actually, Stringer and Avon were fucking each other up. Stringer is getting in the way of Avon trying to do street shit while Avon is getting in the way of Stringer to take a more civilized and expansive business approach. The final irony is that they give each other up for the games that they're in: Avon to Brother Mouzone (notice that Brother doesn't give a fuck about business) and Stringer to Bunny (trying to get Avon locked up on that street shit).
MrJooxman 1 month ago
@MrJooxman Thank fuck you explained the whole thing to me. Otherwise I might have to have watched it and used my mind to understand the programme. WE ALL GET IT FUCKNUTS! Stop trying to look clever by posting the utterly obvious on youtube feeds. When you precede any argument with "actually", you have to propose an alternative view, not the conventional wisdom. Hence your silly "what happened is..." just makes you look like a twat. Kiss Kiss!
JimmyMc1979 1 month ago
@MrJooxman "Actually, Stringer and Avon were fucking each other up"
Well thanks for that...
JimmyMc1979 1 month ago
...and with that the Barksdale empire crumbles......
mattd687 11 months ago
@mattd687 thanks to stringers sneaky ass and snitchin ass ...he accutally gave uppp avon to the feds ..fuck stringer ...avon was a g
KrayzieB0ne3 11 months ago
Avon gave up Stringer because Stringer had his nephew killed and didn't tell him. And, when he did, he rubbed that shit iin when Avon was basically calling him soft. Avon was growing sick of Stringer's getting played by the criminals who play the game on the political and real estate level.
Stel987 11 months ago
@atmchickluva you got that shit mixed up, stringer was the brains behind it, he had book smarts. avon had street smarts. but both of them still knew a little of both.
hiphopheadism 1 year ago
"HE DOESNT STRIKE ME AS A MAN WHO WOULD TELL STORIES, EVEN AT THE POINT OF DYING" THATS A REAL QUOTE RIGHT THERE!!! YOU GOTTA LOVE THE WIRE!!! MUOZONE STRAIGHT SHUT THAT NYC CONNECT DOWN! HIS WORD IS BOND!
ATTITUDEOFTHECITY 1 year ago
He's got the black bow tie on....That can't be good.
WiseGuy5674 1 year ago 3
"the inner workings of your organisation don't concern me..!
kevsul47 1 year ago
People that say tv is crap never watch The Wire.
blakmagik4 1 year ago
" Its your word and reputation that got you here". Brother. That true in all walks on life.
trevdiggz 1 year ago
:- ))
thecalistallion 1 year ago
Stringer was smart but drug game intelligence and business intelligence are two different things...drug dealers are not cut out for the business world and businessmen are much more evil!!!
sliccmoufschalaa 1 year ago
@sliccmoufschalaa so true
megatronxnjx973 1 year ago
bye bye stringer
mosilflutil10 1 year ago
Stringer still got Avon back from beyond the grave and ratted him out. Although I would take 7 years in in prison than being dead.
JeffWithAnF 1 year ago
Nigga looks like "Roger" from "What's Happenning"
THEREALtrappajohn 1 year ago 8
Brother Mouzone reminds me of Gus from Breaking Bad, anyone else agree?
htownallday281 1 year ago 68
@htownallday281 How badass would it be if Brother Mouzone showed up on Breaking Bad working for Gus?
cptnbinky 10 months ago
@htownallday281 Ones red ones darkskin how
Dwaynesname30 9 months ago
@Dwaynesname30 The way they act, if you actually followed both shows you would know this instead of spewing out some ignorant race bullshit.
htownallday281 9 months ago
@htownallday281 I bet Gus has a library card.
TinKnocka420 7 months ago
@htownallday281
Fuck yeah.
Mouzone would have made quite a reputation in Baltimore if someone gave him a Box Cutter.
TheLeoOfCostaRica 7 months ago
@htownallday281 For sure.
EthanE3Eves 4 months ago
@htownallday281 i agree.
SubliminalCell 3 months ago
avon didnt only give up string for money, he gave string up cause if he didnt he would have been dead. u think brother and omar wouldnt do anything to someone who has the info on the person there tryin to get revenge on?
turner45555 1 year ago
@turner45555 i think he gave up stringer b/c of what stinger did to d.....that was the ultimate decision....if stringer never got bodied d ....i think avon wouldve lied about stringer whereabouts at least.... but at the end of the day stringer fucked up by killin one of avon relatives...
megatronxnjx973 1 year ago
Brother Mouzone...Strictly Business
2916316 1 year ago
Ppl love to praise Avon as that dude. But we do realize that in the end Avon gave up Stringer, his brother, for money and business. All he did was strike quicker than Stringer. Both of them are snakes.
ojonesjr 1 year ago
@ojonesjr stringer killed his nephew wtf he pose to do? aint no loyalty after that
tommybrown187 1 year ago
@ojonesjr string was going to die regardless , he tried to save string but couldnt even though HE KILLED HIS NEPHEW thats loyalty.....if you remember correctly brother mouzone was not to be fuck with he had tons of bodys... stringer double crossed him and he was bound to die
razorsharpandonpoint 1 year ago
@razorsharpandonpoint "tons of bodys" aint enough, to quote Prop Joe "more bodies then a Chinese cemetery". Your right String had to go, man was not cut out for the Game, he did not even know about Mouzones rep.
xdir 1 year ago
@ojonesjr nah...stringer made his own bed...Avon told him not to deal with prop joe...trying to buy time to get a good pakage...stringer only saw the money aspect snaked his own boy to get it...hell at least avon tried to save him but stringer hadjust gone too far...he wouldve been dead and out of his connect....stringer made his own bed...now he lies in it...
bceaser1 1 year ago
2:06 Brother Mouzone made a statement just uncrossing his hands , he like well whats it gone be Avon?
fukengr8 1 year ago 30
Brother Mouzone is easily the scariest character on this show
jampt1989 1 year ago 6
Ya boi gave u up... and we aint have to torture his ass neither
mkvl1490 1 year ago 4
He said he still had an open line to New York, he should've called him back to take care of Marlo.
y05ngmoney 1 year ago
Wood Harris is a brilliant actor.
Crazymike1975 1 year ago
For those who don't quite understand: Avon was given a choice by New York to either allow Brother to kill Stringer Bell OR Avon would lose all his connections in New York("your reputation got you a line to..."). If Avon wanted to keep his reputation as a straight-up player, he had to let Stringer go.
klined 1 year ago 6
Wow, seemed like Avon cared more about saving his reputation in New york than the fact that Stringer had his nephew killed. I guess in a way, Avon agreed with Stringer's logic behind killing his nephew but at the same time, he still had to punish Stringer for it, so I guess making stringer look stupid in front of slim charles was one of his ways of punishing Stringer.
Omerta3000 1 year ago
Honestly I think STringer trying to change the game(realestate) got him killed....it was just not knowing his place and going against the King(Avon)..that did it.
VallaeBoy 1 year ago
Man the Barksdales had developed such STRONG REPUTATIONS THROUGHOUT THE EAST COAST, BUT IN LESS than a year, Stringer Bell was able to nullify that reputation. Man Stringer to Barksdale is Judas Iscariot to Jesus.
TubeGuest5178 1 year ago
"Business is where you are now. But what got you here is your word & your reputation. With that alone, you've still got an open line to New York. Without it, you're done." Brother Mouzone
will434usmc 1 year ago
@will434usmc A Las Vegas attorney who represented the mafia said they were always the most honest men he'd ever represent.
Wargoat6 1 year ago
I think mouzone is the king. No one can put anything over him
MostDefinate 1 year ago
@MostDefinate
uhm...how bout omar !?
paraparrot 1 year ago
i disagree with the outlook that avon gave up stringer just to protect his rep. stringer made plays that avon fundamentally disagreed with. stringer killed D. stringer easily gave up turf that was won through blood just to increase revenue. the NY connect was important to avon, but seeing how he reacted to losing his older connect in season 2, i'm willing to bet he would have defended stringer if it weren't for the way stringer played the game.
thevividdream 1 year ago
@thevividdream kudos to you! that's exactly right @ your last sentence. Avon was a strict adherent to the rules of the game! Stringer was a strict adherent to changing the rules to suit his personal interests. You cannot survive long (financially or physically with Stringer's outlook) trying to change the game. Same with the mob. You have to stick to the game. More bodies start to drop when they try to change it.
TubeGuest5178 1 year ago
Avon was loyal to Stringer to the end, he had to sacrifice Stringer or lose everything. Easy choice to make, especially with Marlo creeping in, the last thing Avon needed was a Omar teaming up with Brother, the two Could easily take out all the corners then Avon & String.
xdir 1 year ago
Love Mouzone and Omar, both characters are nice throwbacks to classic western gunslingers.
slantedeskimo 1 year ago 2
look at avons face when mouzone first walks in....he looked like he didnt give a fuck...
paddy415 1 year ago
Avon could've fixed this. He had a choice: Stringer or his rep? Avon chose his rep. After all Avon and Stringer have been through, Avon decides to give him up. Seems like their brotherhood was bulls***. Avon should've listened to stringer about this beef over corners. "There are games beyond the game". But Prop Joe told stringer that avon is a soldier.
kandinskyforfootball 1 year ago
@kandinskyforfootball yeah, stringer being unloyal and having Deangelo behind avon's back sure made this choice hard for avon. give up stringer or lose everything--fortunately he was able to get both.
gauchebag 1 year ago
@kandinskyforfootball Yea well the fact that Stringer stabbed him in the back didn't exactly make this a hard choice for him.
Antrizzle2009 1 year ago
@kandinskyforfootball It wasn't just his rep. If he didn't make this right with Mouzone, he would have lost his NY connect and then he would have had no choice but to go to Prop Joe and at that point Joe would have made him his bitch.
Antrizzle2009 1 year ago
@kandinskyforfootball Stringer didn't give a fuck about Avon either. String snitched on Avon so he could regain power and recover his losses from the Davis deal. Stringer was disloyal and selfish. Fuck Stringer for snitching on his boy. I think Avon should have whacked String once he found out about DeAngelo. Blood runs thicker than water. D took 20 years for Avon. Stringer had D whacked because Stringer was a scared bitch.
sckrbt 1 year ago
@sckrbt
Bell was a businessman, not a gangster. That was the difference between the two. But it is clear Avon did not want to give him up. He had no choice.
Both were a great team but in the end ended up betraying each other.
ss90ss444 1 year ago
@kandinskyforfootball Do you realize that this was after Stringer had D'Angelo murdered? Like he said "It's all just business". Stringer did what he had to do. Avon did what he had to do. The game is the game.
DreadfulControversy 1 month ago
Can Some give me a detailed description on why Avon gave Stringer Up?
TheCasatres 1 year ago
@TheCasatres I can think of 2 reasons why Avon gave Stringer up.
1. Reputation: Stringer really screwed himself when he tried to turn Omar on Bro Mouzone. If Avon tried to protect Stringer, it would have cost Avon a lot in terms of street connections-especially New York contacts (not to mention his own safety).
2. Stringer told Avon that he had D'angelo (Avon's nephew) killed. Although Stringer had it done to save himself and Avon, it probably left a chip on Avon's shoulders.
flukes777 1 year ago
@flukes777 THX Alot, Made things more clear now ;D
TheCasatres 1 year ago
"you look healthy." lmao. you know you're a badass when thats how someone like avon barksdale greets you.
basten2 1 year ago
the bro mouzone character was a bit fake. he was sort of out of place.
thegov08 1 year ago
@thegov08
You've never heard that Biggie was shot by a guy in a bowtie!? I was three blocks away at the time....
ejarrett 1 year ago
its the fact that brother mouzone walks around with a suit and tie and with a posh accent that makes it seem fake. they probably based him on a real life character, but it still doesn't feel right
thegov08 1 year ago
@thegov08 just like gaymar
gauchebag 1 year ago
What is the song playing in the background?
ss90ss444 2 years ago
@ss90ss444 A Place Nobody Can Find, by Sam and Dave.
Martunez 1 year ago
oh shit omar was out side omar aint have beef wit him cuz brotha mouzone had respect for him and he let avon slide they coulda kelled him but omar wasnt like dat real talk look at omar inna back
sexxyladychick 2 years ago
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zalmoxe 2 years ago