There isn't too much to be excited about the leading GOP candidates. If McCain gets the nominee it will be Bob Dole in '96 all over again. The same may be true for Huckabee, and Romney. It may be the time to draft a GOP presidential candidate. Fred Thompson would be it! DRAFT FRED THOMPSON!
Agreed-- although I am a democrat and do not like many Republicans, I have a lot of respect for Fred Thompson. I also agree about Huckabee-- he may be the least electable Republican I've ever seen.
Where was Fred Thompson at the CNN/YouTube debates?
Fred Thompson is nowhere to be found in Iowa.
Vote for someone who truly has a chance and voice. This message is not intended for Sheeple who jump bandwagons. Research who Ron Paul is, watch some of his videos, and don't ignore what millions already know.
Inform yourself who is part of CFR people if you really want to save America! He supports the North American Union and not the Constitution. He is a Fake!!! How can you support and CFR member??? watch?v=Vo5CZvD3-QM
Typical American bluster and hubris. Your country would've been quite content to suck Tojo's cock had he not suckered you at Pearl Harbor. We were fighting facist evil on behalf of the free world for two years before you got your wake-up call, or had you forgotten that the USA didn't fight the second world war all by itself?
American politics is the world's business because of your President's agressive and destructive foreign policy. Don't even think about telling anyone to mind their own business until you quit meddling in the affairs of sovereign states.
Fred has NO place in this race. He just has identical beliefs to Mitt and Rudy. He isn't as smart as Rudy (which is REALLY saying something) and isn't as good at combing his hair as Romney. He's useless in this race.
Does he realize that this isn't for a role as president in some movie? My guess is he does not, or he would understand that he is unqualified for the U.S. presidency at this time. If he does realize it then he's running with the expectation that everything can be choreographed and scripted for him. He doesn't seem self motivated without lobbyist dollars moving him. complete prop with little substance or info.
Fred Thompson is the best candidate. He's calm, in control, and a compulsive omnivore. If you're looking for the perfect deodorant, then you're out of luck.
He'll support our Armed Forces by providing them essential supplies, such as curling irons and week-old sushi.
He wants to fix health care. On Day One, Fred will demand health insurance for animals.
With passion for innovation, Fred will over fund the 5-wheel automobile concept.
Fred Thompson IS the ONLY Candidate! If you love how Bush has run this country - VOTE FOR FRED! He will ensure status quo is maintained... We need to BOMB Iran and maybe even implement the draft! It doesn't matter how much money it costs - at least that is what my CFR buddies told me...we can either print it or borrow from communist China!!
"This was Fred Thompson's first debate. You know, the long-awaited savior for the Republicans, Fred Thompson, is finally in the debates. It was a good chance for the voters to finally put the name with the cadaver." --Bill Maher
nixon once called thompson dumb as hell and i believe he was rite. thompson is all hype and doubt most people even kno where he stands on the issues. NO fred 08
How many more friedman units do you want? The CIC already has shown he has no plan for this war and they never planned for it. The war was thrown from the start with the lack of planning. Hugh you continue to show why you are apart of the minority of americans. Baseless optimism. The fact remains you guys would love to see the troops continue to die for your inept leader
Al-Qaida makes less than 10% of the insurgency. The fighting that is going on is coming from the Iraqi people of various sects. Yeah hard to report the good when people are dying all around you
Ron Paul, Never voted to raise taxes, has way more experience than Thompson, voted against the patriot act and the iraq war, i think you get my point, get it right America Vote Ron Paul in 2008
America you need to WAKE UP!!! RON PAUL is our ONLY hope!! I have just turned 18 AND I FEAR FOR MY RIGHTS AND MY FUTURE!!! PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE WATCH THESE IN GOOGLE VIDEO "Freedom to Fascism" and "Zeitgeist" !!!
Well yet again I heard on the news (CNN) that 15 people were killed and they were women and children. They weren't killed by terrorists. They were killed by coalition forces. Also the 3 star general stated basically that the war was failing. The videos are piling up here on youtube with soldiers saying the war is a failure and that we won't win because there is a civil war going on. The only way to support our troops is to bring them home immediately.
Another clown in the white house, when will you Yanks ever learn. you can't even reply to the stupid things he says about Michael Moore on you tube.He's an actor, needs scripts an acts for a living, get real folks.
any person that thinks this man shoud be in the White House is a fool. he just keeps beating the same old horse. he will say anything to get your vote.
ATTENTION!! Click on my name and check out my video "Life of US Troops in the Iraq War" To see what is really going on. Our (ground) soldiers are exhausted and want to come home. Don't believe war supporters who are living in dreamland. The only way to support our soldiers is to bring them home immediately!
how about some actual video of him saying his views and opionions on stuff instead of the propoganda filth. there is no REAL reason given in this video as to why we should vote for thid man. also his acting career is non imporntant, being an actor has nothing to do with being the leader of anything
Al Qaeda makes up only about 3% of the terrorist population in Iraq. There are so many different people fighting each other. Eventually one will have to take the lead and run the country with or without the help of the US. I would rather we let them do it themselves.
One thing is for certain If our soldiers are not there they will not die. There is already a civil war there now and I would rather that these sunni, Shia, and other tribal militants fight each other than us. The truth is we don't know what will happen if we just leave, But policing the world is what makes other countries hate us. Click on my name and watch my video "Soldiers Shoots Civillians" and "Iraq and Afghani war"
We dont know for sure what will happen but all the most likely scenarios would involve heavy amounts of genocide and likely result in us having to go back anyway which would take us back to square one and cost even more American lives. Second of all I am absolutely against basing any policy decision of the USA on what makes us popular with the rest of the world. What I mean is that we need to put what is in are own best interest ahead of what might score us popularity points with other nations.
If there is problems in Iraq after we leave we still should not go back. Its their war. We got rid of their dictator and now its time that the Iraqi government step up and take control. Its not the responsibility of the US to police the world. We are trillions in debt, but forget that The real problem is that we have had 4500 of our troops die. Think about them and their families next time you support the war.
It has nothing to do with foreign nations anymore. Our own country is against this war. We already have heavy amounts of genocide going on in iraq and we are at square one. We went back to square one when we disbanded the iraqi army, removed the government and purged the baathists.
Genocide you say? You want Genocide go to Darfur. You want genocide leave Saddam in power so he can gas the Kurds again. Sunni Iraqi's are fighting Sunni insurgents. Until the recent peace deal they signed, Al Sadr's Shia militia group was killing members of other Shia militia groups. Tell me how exactly does two members of the same ethnicity killing each other classify as genocide?
They still are killing each other. You have not only sunnis killing sunnis (which the government doesn't count as violence) and shiites killing shiites but also sunnis killing shiites and kurds and etc. Everyone is fighting each other. How do we quell a civil war that we helped proliferate? Like it or not Saddam was the only thing keeping the country stable and keeping the radicals in line.
What is the difference between the dictatorship they have now and the dictatorship they had then at this point? More people have died now than under Saddam, there is less infrastructure, less utilities and less electricity than under that cruel dictator we propped up. We've gotten to the point where our government has contemplated letting Mushariff take over the country.
So why does he still think the Soviet Union is still a nation????? Is this how stupid some Americans really are? I think I'll send Ron Paull anothe 50 bux just because this commercial was so ridiculous. Flip flop/ Maybe he will end the Vietnam war too?
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Yeah hey lets leave Iraq. That makes sense right? Just pack up and leave. I mean the Kurds, Sunnis, and Shia are only killing each other because we are there upseting the natural order right? Once we leave they will probably stand on a hill outside Baghdad and sing "Buy the World a Coke" in arabic.
No that's what Don Rumsfeld and company believed they'd be singing when we toppled Saddam. You're talking about people being unrealistic and that is exactly how we got into this mess. In your recent post you said you didn't even give a shit if they all killed each other so whats it actually matter to you?
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Oh and those terrorists will leave them alone too. And Iran...of course they wont take such a golden opportunity to spread their sphere of influence which could possibly result in the acquiring of Nuclear Weapons by a terrorist organization. Of course not, yeah Ron Paul makes total sense.
Thats right, let Iran deal with Iraq. Absolutely. Those tribes have been infighting forthousands of years. Do you really think that the Us with its short term history of interventionalism is going to change that. Wake up! They never fucked with us until the policy of the US as dictated by Israel through AIPAC kept us there. Thats rights the Sunnis and Shiites are killing each other and its their war, not ours and especially not mine. Civil wars cost money and lives and huge financial burdens.
Sunnis and Shia can kill each other all they want for all I care, provided they keep Al Qaeda out which they seem to have decided to do. You really are a fool though, you know good and well what Iran will do with control in Iraq.
As for letting tribes kill each other, thank you so much, now stop whining when the Israelis retaliate against the Palestinians whom they have been fighting with since Biblical times.
The Israeli's have occupied and mistreated the Palestinians for years. No my friend, you are quite clueless. The Israelis have been condemned numerous times even by the UN, who by the way I detest. Btw there was no Alquida in Iraq before we went in there. You must be another one that believes they hate us for our freedoms; Which freedoms would those be? Amazing how you know what they will do Mr. Prophet and exactly how do you propose the US will win?
Compassionate conservatism? Who cares about the people of iraq they should just kill each other? Good lord is that what you guys believe? The iraqis by all intents and measures have kept Al Qaida out of Iraq as they make a small percentage of the insurgency. What you have is a 3 way civil war between the kurds, sunnis and shiites. They didn't understand the country before they invaded and they still dont
Actually the Kurds dont really care what the Shia and Sunnis do. They tend to stay in the north and let everyone else kill each other. The Shia just got themselves a brand spakin new Country and are now killing each other because they cant agree how to run it. The Sunnis are fed up with Al Qaeda which is responsible for the vast majority of insurgent attacks in Iraq and has begun to realize that boycotting elections is not in their best interest.
You haven't studied this conflict long enough seekster and obviously have no concept of what is going on. Maybe if you studied a bit about how we funded Bin Laden, how we armed Saddam, how we overthrew democratically elected governments and replaced them with cruel dictators because it was in our "best interest" you would understand the points Ron Paul makes
Actually your wrong, I know all about how we funded the Taliban in their fight against the Soviets, I know all about how we gave weapons to Saddam in his fight against Iran. It was called the Cold War and we were fighting the Soviet Union. The Soviet Union is no more (contrary to the words you put in Fred;s mouth) now we have a new enemy and the diplomatic lines have been changed.
We supported the Taliban and Saddam because it was against our interest for Soviet Union or for Iran to emerge victorious in those conflicts. Now our enemy is Al Qaeda and other Islamic Facist terrorist groups and thus Saddam and Bin Laden were not the enemy of our enemy but just our enemy. It makes perfect sense to me so whats your problem?
We played both sides with Saddam. It was not anywhere close to our best interest. We knew the Soviet Union was collapsing on its own since the late 70s. Even so this has nothing to do with tyrants we put in place after we deposed democratically elected leaders. There is no such thing as Islamic Fascist. Those two terms cannot coexist. They are polar opposites.
Seekster do you know we also supplied arms and help to Iran during that war? That we switched sides and supported saddam with chemical weapons? How we also encouraged the kurds to rise up against saddam and then did nothing and help saddam murder them? I didn't put words in Fred's mouth he said Soviet Union in his speech obviously he doesn't know the difference.
So tell me seekster who is the majority in the country? Don't look it up. How does that compare to the rest of the middle east? By the way what actual views does Fred have other than empty rhetoric?
The Majority in what sense, in terms of liberals or conservatives? Moderates will always be the majority in any country. Thompson outlines his platform in his Announcement video. If you want to see where all the candidates including Thompson stand then visit ontheissues dot com
My response was actually about Iraq who is the majority in Iraq the shiites or the sunnis? How does that compare to the rest of the middle east? My question was to you seekster what actual views does thompson have that you agree with? You don't seem to care he sold his soul to lobby for abortion?
Buddy, wawbwc just wait and see what happens will you. Jeez you are making issues where there are none yet. And here I thought you two were against "pre-emptive" strike.
You know I am against pre-emptive strike because I support Ron Paul. Check out "Ron Paul on ABC World News 10-03-07" here on youtube. It appears that MCain and Huckabee are the fringe candidates now.
Paul, Tancredo, Hunter, Brownback, Huckabee are the second level candidates. Thompson, Rudy, Romney, and McCain are the first level candidates, as in the guys who have a chance. Well ok Huckabee has a chance as a vice-presidential pick.
Actually Mccain is starting to slip into second tier status as his campaign falls apart. Mccain sold himself out thinking he'd become the Republican party's next leader. He lost his maverick qualities he once had that actually made him electable once. Thompson's campaign is imploding before it gets off the ground because of his continued Dan Quaylish gaffes that make him sound either lazy or stupid.
Richard N Haas is now the CFR president. He was an advisor to George Bush SR and Bill Clinton. It doesn't matter which party you are in, The CFR is bipartisan. Abortion and gay marriage is not their consern. The Rockefellers even today are a powerful people shaping government.
Ok seriously id really really like someone to try using a different source other than youtube to back up their arguments. Youtube is a nice forum to debate but it contains almost no credible sources for these kinds of debates. Besides Im really getting tired of people perscribing videos for me to watch. Most of the time when I am commenting I am at school or work so I cant really watch a video with the sound on now can I?
"George Bush is a RIGHT wing Neo-Con." Bush is a Populist leaning moderate Conservative. Not even a real Conservative. I define Neo-con as people like the KKK or neo-nazis who are also not real Conservatives. They are the very fringe, people who nobody likes.
The goal of the average politician is to be the best liar (which explains Bill Clinton).
But in all seriousness if Rudy is trying to please the CFR then what the heck is he doing skipping out on Hispanic Community debates, or visting restaurants that will only serve customers who order in English. There are drastic differences in how Republicans and Democrats view foriegn policy among other issues.
If the CFR's agenda is that broad then its bound to meet the will of some people. Or could it be that you have forgotten who the President's employer is? The President works for the American People on a four year contract. It is the people, not the CFR, the renews that contract. Dont get me wrong I have several issues with the CFR but they arent running the country.
Seekster; You have taken it to a new low. Common knowledge does not disagree with me. As for logic, you are using none, and yes you are everyday people. You are looking for a "father figure hero" and probably "miming" what has been programmed in you by elders. You strike me as being a bright young man. Remember this please; a person should "own" their own thoughts. If you really believe what you say, then so be it. Let us live in peace with our differences. I shall argue no further.
I really really am not looking for a Father Figure in my President. I just want someone who isnt going to drive this Country into the ground. Thompson seems to me like he can actually improve things. I am very independent and I really dont like having to "take someone's word for it".
Im all for living in peace though. The argument was pointless to begin with but its slow at work right now and I was bored.
You did not just imply that the race for President is a free ride?
Riddble me this wawbwc, with so many CFR members in the race how can they all look out for each other? Somebody has got to give and certain individuals who will remain *cough* Hillary *cough* nameless, want the office so bad they would kill for it. If its Rudy v Hillary or Fred v Hillary, nobody is going to pull any punches. They are both members of the CFR, they arent Free Masons. BIG DIFFERENCE.
You do realize that all of the Presidential candidates are politicians who associate with other politicians. Politicians are undesirable people. Your logic would work on everyday people, it wont work here.
Seekster: Careful, this smacks of hypocrisy. If you justify this behaviour for fred, (the red truck facade) ,you cannot criticise it when Gore or anyone else does it. It is an act of deception to win the hearts of the simple minded. Using double standards invalidates ones arguments.
I was going on about the red truck "facade" for the sake of argument. I do not personally believe that it was all staged. Common knowledge disagrees with your take on the red truck but for the sake of argument and my own entertainment I decided to amuse myself by using your own logic against you.
You do not personally believe the red truck incident was staged? Good lord you defy logic. Thompson didn't even drive that red truck but a few feet before his campaign stop. He rented the truck out and had someone else drive it most of the way while he got pulled around in his trailer. Common knowledge disagrees entirely with your account of the red truck. Just as it disagrees with you about Fred being on America's side during watergate instead of nixons
Despite the fact that your take on the Red truck and Nixon is inaccurate for reasons I have mentioned earlier, they are also just as irrelevant to this race as Bill Clinton's sex life was to his presidency. (Bill Clinton was the personification of corruption but Monica had absolutely nothing to do with it). I care about one thing when choosing who to support for President; whose views most closely match my own. For this reason I support Thompson.
The red truck incident is common knowledge and had been reported in the local papers at the time that yes he rented out the truck and didn't own or drive it. So once again do some more research kid. Also my bit about the Nixon part is also accurate as Thompson himself stated in his watergate memoirs that he had given the nixon lawyers information he was not authorized to give.
Personification of corruption? You're kidding? So you don't think that's what Richard Nixon was? For all the shit you claim Clinton did all you guys could get was a cumstain on a blue dress and you needed to commit a perjur trap just to get that. You have no problem with Scooter Libby committing multiple felonys and then being let off by the hook by his boss? That is the definition of corruption.
Actually Nixon was also a personification of corruption. My problem with Clinton has nothing to do with his infidelity. I didnt like Clinton but they impeached him for political reasons just as Scooter Libby was indicted because the Democrats couldnt get Cheney or Rove. Tell me exactly what felonies was Scooter Libby accused of. Bush should have pardoned Libby, not just commuted his sentence.
If you bothered paying attention to the trial and read the entire transcripts Scooter was indicted because he commited perjury and obstruction of justice. The democrats had nothing to do with Scooter Libby. The Special Prosecutor was a Republican appointed by Bush as a Federal Attorney and appointed by Deputy AG Comey to be special prosecutor. The whole investigation was launched by DOJ and the FBI not the "democrats"
Libby, Gonzales, DeLay, all victims caught in political cross fire because of Bush haters. I dont care who the President is, I would rather have Congress get things done to help the country rather than make political attacks. But of course they are politicians and politicians can always be trusted to do one thing, and one thing only, and that is to look out for their own personal interests.
Libby and Gonzales were victims of their own design. Libby leaked the identity of an undercover NOC and took the fall for it. He committed multiple felonies and was a convicted felon. Gonzales willingly broke the hatch act, wrote decisions to violate criminal law and encouraged thus, and committed multiple perjuries before congress. He was a victim of his own stupidity. Congress was doing nothing but their job in looking into those scandals
Actually Libby was never charged with anything other than perjury? Why because the prosecutor knew about the real leaker, Armitage. This was a witch hunt by bitter people for political purposes. As for Gonzales his mistake was that he didnt explain what he did to the American people before the Media came in and made it look like he did something illegal when in fact he did not.
Are you kidding me? Libby was charged and convicted of two counts of perjury, one count of lying to the FBI and one count of obstruction of justice. Once again you don't pay attention to anything do you? Are you telling me that if 3 people rob 3 different banks only one person who robbed the one bank is responsible? There was nothing political about this.
I thought you said Libby was charged with revealing the identity of an FBI agent (who wasnt actually under cover to begin with but thats a whole different issue). If they really and solid evidence to charge him with that then they would have done so. Instead they simply questioned him so many times until they found some slight contradiction and then had him charged with perjury which was the best they could get.
Where did I say that? I said he was charged with perjury, obstruction of justice in connection with outing of an undercover CIA agent. Get the agency correct. The FBI investigated Libby's statements because they handle domestic matters. Its hard to get solid evidence when he was obstructing justice. Try understanding what obstruction of justice means and what perjury means then come back and reply.
The special prosecutor was a Republican appointed by a republican president to be a federal attorney and appointed by a Republican department of justice. Stop lying kid. Gonzales lied about the reasons for why they were fired claiming incompetence and then backing down when that was proven false. Then he lied under oath about what the hospital meeting was about and he was contradicted by the head of the FBI and multiple witnesses.
Gonzales should have just come out and said that the prosecutors were fired for political reasons, which they most likely were, but the executive branch has the legal right to hire and fire federal prosecutors as they see fit, hell Clinton fired over a hundred federal prosecutors because they didnt agree with him politically and nobody seemed to raise a fuss about that. Its all dirty partisan politics Moran, best accept it and deal with it rather than try to deny it.
So you're saying that once again Gonzales perjured himself under oath. Clinton fired prosecutors at the start of his term because that's normal! Bush Jr. did it with Clintons, Clinton did it with Bush Sr, Bush Sr did it with Reagans. You obviously don't understand how our government works. Bush Jr. fired his own prosecutors because they weren't going after democrats.
Libby wasn't charged with leaking as he was obstructing justice hence the conviction on obstruction of justice. He covered things up and lied to the grand jury about it. Libby is a convicted felon and was let off the hook by his boss after being ordered to leak plame's identity.
I remember when the whole leak case broke on the news. At first the Dems targeted Karl Rove but found they couldnt take him down, next they tried Cheney, still no luck with the VP. Finally they had to settle with Libby and all they could get him on was a stinking perjury charge. Come on name one politician who hasnt lied? You could put any politician under oath and given enough time he or she would commit perjury.
How could the democrats target Karl Rove? The democrats didn't run the investigation. The special prosecutor appointed by the justice department did. It is known that Karl had something to do with it but Libby obstructed the investigation so that they couldn't determine how involved Cheney was. If you paid attention to the investigation Rove was actually involved. So now you're saying because politicians lie that its okay to out undercover agents in the intelligence agency?
Ive heard some people say that Fred has gone against the alleged ideals of the NAU plan multiple times. I havnt heard a decisive sound bite indicating this but you cannot seem to come up with decisive evidence that Fred is one of those who is in on the whole alleged NAU plot. (Still skeptical of the whole conspiracy idea but ill play along for now.) This leaves us at a stalemate.
For the sake of argument: Can you offer evidence that would indicate a motive for the membership of FDT in the CFR? If not then the question of motive is up for opinion.
To seekster: You can do a google search on Fred Thompson's rented truck. You will find many listings to choose from. No doubt though you will probably think them all liberal biased. P.S. I did not vote for Gore and consider him "politician" all the way. So is Fred. He reminds me too much of L.B.J. A "beltway bubba" relying on "father figure" imagery.
If you dont vote for politicians then its safe to say that most of the time YOU DONT VOTE at all.
Seriously though if we assume that Fred is geniune then nuff said and he is a good man. If we assume that Fred is a politician and only used the pickup as a political tool then he is a clever politician who knows how to appeal to his constituents. So he is either a good man or a good politician. Personally I think he is both.
Addendum to prev. post. I am aware of the levity intended with the cigar. Bad idea on his part. It is noted among constituents that he has them. "Gifts", so they say.
And I would speak to the contrary of him/her.....There are witnesses. (no offense intended to your grandparent). Most of what M.Moore says is backed up with evidence. (Incidently I am not a big M.M. fan. I check the resources).
There are witnesses saying that he traveled around in a red pickup and not a Limo too so you are going to need more than contrary witness testimony to support the Limo idea. Moore and now Al Gore are more self-serving than the modern day politician. They manipulate facts and twist them into their mistaken versions of reality. Neither of them seem to believe what they say in their movies but they do like the money they make from saps who buy the crap they sell.
If Fred drove a blue pickup could he sway the democratic vote? It boggles the mind that an issue as important as who will lead the last super-power could hinge on his choice of campaign vehicle. If I tried I couldn't find a more trivial, unsubstantive issue upon which to determine my vote.
What I dont understand, wawbwc, is why you dont have your own television show. I mean you appear to have the ability to read peoples minds and see their reasoning behind all of their decisions. I mean after all you seem to know exactly why Fred joined CFR.
Your argument is simplistic though it would pass the logic test if you provided some quote where Fred said "I joined CFR for the benefits". Since you lack even initial evidence the rest of your line of thinking simply falls apart.
Hype, This man is a hypocrite. He criticized M.Moore for going to cuba all the while chewing on a cigar imported from cuba. (posted on Youtube). The U.S. has a strict ban on imports of any kind from cuba. Also during his "lil red truck" senate campaign, he would be limo'd to the truck that was parked only a few blocks from the rally. He would then take his coat off, roll up his sleeves, get in the truck and drive in like he rolled in from the farm. Another actor, whew!
"He criticized M.Moore for going to cuba all the while chewing on a cigar imported from cuba." - 325NEK
You clearly lack that sense of what we like to call humor. Its hard to take an slug like Moore seriously since he is consistently wrong. Fred's sense of humor on the other hand was very refreshing for a politician.
As for the thing about the red truck. My Grandparent in Memphis, TN would speak to the contrary.
Justin what a dull and unoriginal attack. Do you really believe that all members of the CFR support a North American Union? That is like saying all members of the DNC support Abortion. A group with membership as diverse as the CFR could not possibly stand in complete solidarity. To write Fred or anyone for that matter off because they are a member of the CFR without further backing is downright thoughtless. (Dont make me have to counter spam, keep your propaganda in one place at least.)
Fred Thompson is not a leader.. He just plays one on TV. Don't be dellusional, and please don't spread your dellusion with a Days of Thunder sound track. It belittles our intelligence. You forgot to mention F. Thompson is a member of the CFR. An organization bent on reducing our soveriegnty in an effor toward globalization.
Cut cut Ive heard this script before cmcdaniel dont know where you got it from but tell them its getting old. They need to come up with something new. Something I cant rip apart with facts in a relatively small number of posts.
Fred Thompson was a lobbyist for abortion and now he says he's pro-life. Fred Thompson is a CFR member. Who did Ronald Reagan endorse? Answer Ron Paul. He said he was a great leader.
I might be willing to accept that Ron Paul's social record is impressively Conservative but he lacks common sense when it comes to foreign policy.
Fred Thompson has always been Pro-life just look at his voting record. Rather than just swallowing the lobbying thing at face value why dont you do a little digging into it and see what you find in terms of the abortion group.
Angelina is a member of CFR but she is still hot...whats your point?
I wouldn't vote for any CFR member. And that goes for Angelina too. The president of the CFR himself states that we should give up soverignty for safety and that we should not think of ourselves as just Americans but should reconsider our borders.
Interesting quote, why didnt you mention something like that before? Do you have a credible source for that quote? Please send me the link if you do. Feel free to message me the link if you cannot post it here.
If their President did indeed make such a statment then I want to know. It does not change the fact that not all CFR members would support the idea of a NAU but it doesnt help the organization out.
Here you go seekster. Check out "CFR on National Sovereignty vs Globalisation" here on youtube. And check out their own site CFR"dot"org and CFR"dot"org/publications/ Google CFR building a North American Community
Hmm let me make one thing clear, I am all for being on close and friendly terms with Canada and Mexico. They are our neighbors after all and it would be counterproductive to be on hostile terms with them. However I draw a very fine line between close realtions and infrigning on the soverignty of any of these nations by one of the others. Publically CFR has only been promoting extremly close ties with Canada and Mexico which is fine...however...
...I would be very supportive of keeping a very very close eye on the organization. The moment they mention something about how it might be a good idea for the three nations to abandon their soverignty and become one, let me know and Ill do what I can to stop them. Forgive me for being a skeptic but I believe things like conspiracy theories should be approached with skepticism lest we become paranoid and give in to demagogues.
Still you and hellsunicorn should be proud of yourselves. You have the reason and will to make your case to skeptics such as myself without obsessive name calling and shouting. While I am not convinced of the CFR's intentions I have recommended that they be watched closely. I will admit that the NAU conspiracy is by far more credible than something like the 9/11 conspiracy in that the CFR/NAU conspiracy is a possibility (though still a relatively unlikely one).
However there is one main concern of mine that you have yet to directly address. The CFR is a large organization that deals with a wide range of foreign policy issues. It is a gigantic stretch of the imagination to believe that such a politically diverse group of members could all agree on the idea of an NAU.
I have advised that each prominent member be examined for signs that they could possibly support such a movement. I intend to look into that myself since I am a fan of doing ones own research. Ill start with the Presidential candidates but by all means if you have any suggestions for individuals which you would like me to investigate give me their names.
In closing I have this to say: "YOUTUBE FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS GOOD GIVE US MORE THAN 500 CHARACTERS TO WORK WITH!"
The people who say the Paulite outsmarted Hannity are the same people who think Paul won all the debates. These are the same people who would follow Ron Paul to Hell/Disney Land if he asked them to. In other words "Sean Hannity Outsmarted" is simply a matter of opinion.
The point is that the majority of our military supports Ron Paul. Go to "maj General Stubblebine Supports 911 Conspiracy" here on youtube. Also check out "Soldiers are refusing to participate in the Iraq War" here on youtube.
Please please dont tell my you are basing this idea that the military supports Ron Paul or that they believe in the 9/11 conspiracy (which is proven to be utter nonsense) on youtube videos? Come on buddy I give you more credit than that.
In the 2000 Republican presidential primaries, Thompson initially backed former Tennessee Gov. Lamar Alexander, who eventually succeeded Thompson in the Senate, two years later. When Alexander dropped out of the presidential race, Thompson endorsed Senator John McCain's bid and became his national co-chairman.[48] Both McCain and Thompson were contenders to be George W. Bush's running mate in 2000.[49][50]
Actually Reagan turned out to be the Greatest President since FDR. Now I dont think Fred Thompson is on the same level as Ronald Reagan but he is closer than any other candidate and so...
As far as I'm concerned you cannot offer any evidence whatsover that the man you would chose as President is anything but a lying second rate play-actor. This is not to say that it would be the end of the world if he wins; Ronald Regan kept the seat nice and warm for eight years, and his head was stuffed with straw.
Something must be wrong with my eyes because I could have sworn you made a stupid crack about Ronald Regan who for all rights and purposes was the Greatest President since World War II. Im certain I must have been mistaken though, you cant be that stupid...
I liked his rebus button.
It had the name Fred and a Thompson sub-machine gun.
FRED and the Thompson.
mrgermans 2 years ago
fred rules
ptcrusin 4 years ago
There isn't too much to be excited about the leading GOP candidates. If McCain gets the nominee it will be Bob Dole in '96 all over again. The same may be true for Huckabee, and Romney. It may be the time to draft a GOP presidential candidate. Fred Thompson would be it! DRAFT FRED THOMPSON!
openandskeptic 4 years ago
Fred's out, and Ron Paul just raised 1.85 million on MLK day, who's viable??
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The troops support Ron Paul, support them by bringing them home!!!!Bring them home by electing RON PAUL!!!
iTellYouNoLie 4 years ago
Thompson is raking in donations. Please add YOURS to it, today! FRED08(dot)com
Huckabee is dangerous and would destroy the Republican party as we've known it to be....
egginanest 4 years ago
Agreed-- although I am a democrat and do not like many Republicans, I have a lot of respect for Fred Thompson. I also agree about Huckabee-- he may be the least electable Republican I've ever seen.
rodeorock39 4 years ago
Fred Thompson 08...Great Job...
newyorknaked 4 years ago
Money is on the way Fred! Keep on truckin!!!
newyorknaked 4 years ago
Any Republican is better than any Democrat...Thats for sure!!! Go Fred!!
newyorknaked 4 years ago
Fred Thompson for President!!! Go Fred!
newyorknaked 4 years ago
Fred Thompson is a CFR member, and that means he's a puppet of our corrupt government. Electing him would be just like re-electing Bush.
If you value your freedom, watch "America: Freedom to Fascism" on google video.
freedomsadvocate07 4 years ago
Fred Thompson supporters, help spread the word about the "CFR". Thank you
wawbwc 4 years ago
Where was Fred Thompson at the CNN/YouTube debates?
Fred Thompson is nowhere to be found in Iowa.
Vote for someone who truly has a chance and voice. This message is not intended for Sheeple who jump bandwagons. Research who Ron Paul is, watch some of his videos, and don't ignore what millions already know.
Ron Paul '08!
percymate 4 years ago
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Fred's a beast, I'm with FRED! Fuck Ron Paul hes a dam queer
d0xit0 4 years ago
Inform yourself who is part of CFR people if you really want to save America! He supports the North American Union and not the Constitution. He is a Fake!!! How can you support and CFR member??? watch?v=Vo5CZvD3-QM
marcusjansen239369 4 years ago
Isn't it ironic that Ron Paul is anti-war, yet all his supporters are so intent on picking a fight with anyone who will listen?
Just food for thought.....
DollfaceT 4 years ago 2
I'm Fred Thompson. I think I'll take a nap now.
ProlefeedTV 4 years ago
FREDNECK 2011!!
HEE HAW!
frodolinkimo 4 years ago 2
Fred can't even dominate himself :-)
Former Tennessee Sen. Fred Thompson has skidded into sixth place in a CNN/WMUR poll of likely Republican voters in New Hampshire.
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AnAppealToHeavenWash 4 years ago 2
Fred will dominate Hillary in every conceivable way.
frodolinkimo 4 years ago
Ron Paul wins Fresno, California Straw Poll with 35%...
ronpaul2008[DOT]com/straw-poll-results
Tea anyone?
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AnAppealToHeavenWash 4 years ago 2
Ron Paul wins Fresno, California Straw Poll with 35%...
ronpaul2008[DOT]com/straw-poll-results
Tea anyone?
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AnAppealToHeavenWash 4 years ago
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Fred Thompson has the endorsements of National Right to Life, George Allen and Tom McClintock.
On November 21st, 2007, let's help a real conservative get into the White House!
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cmitchz 4 years ago
If he becomes Prez. im goin to Canada.
riguyugir 4 years ago
Typical American bluster and hubris. Your country would've been quite content to suck Tojo's cock had he not suckered you at Pearl Harbor. We were fighting facist evil on behalf of the free world for two years before you got your wake-up call, or had you forgotten that the USA didn't fight the second world war all by itself?
problem49 4 years ago
They shure as Hell Finished It
thebluemaggot 4 years ago
American politics is the world's business because of your President's agressive and destructive foreign policy. Don't even think about telling anyone to mind their own business until you quit meddling in the affairs of sovereign states.
problem49 4 years ago
Anyone who supports Fred should look at Ron Paul. He is a much better choice and you can clearly see the difference in experience and in the issues.
grunner2012 4 years ago
Thompson looks like shit, and this is with make-up. He looks like a propped up corpse, sheesh, I ain't voting for a zombie for pres.
bluemule24 4 years ago
Fred has NO place in this race. He just has identical beliefs to Mitt and Rudy. He isn't as smart as Rudy (which is REALLY saying something) and isn't as good at combing his hair as Romney. He's useless in this race.
Don't vote for another baboon:
VOTE RON PAUL!!
someguy5554 4 years ago
Does he realize that this isn't for a role as president in some movie? My guess is he does not, or he would understand that he is unqualified for the U.S. presidency at this time. If he does realize it then he's running with the expectation that everything can be choreographed and scripted for him. He doesn't seem self motivated without lobbyist dollars moving him. complete prop with little substance or info.
isoscles 4 years ago
they said the same thing about reagan.
taymacjack 4 years ago
They were right.
problem49 4 years ago
if you say so
taymacjack 4 years ago
»»Senator FRED THOMPSON = GREAT man = GREAT next U.S. President. Yes.
truthfbeauty 4 years ago
I served no years in the USMC. What's your point?
problem49 4 years ago
Fred, Mitt, Rudy, Hillary, Obama... they're all the same.
It will come down to best looking ass and tits.
frodolinkimo 4 years ago
Fred is a disgrace. Watergate was a whitewash. If you love Bush's lies you'll love Fred's also.
futureslave 4 years ago 4
Fred Thompson is the best candidate. He's calm, in control, and a compulsive omnivore. If you're looking for the perfect deodorant, then you're out of luck.
He'll support our Armed Forces by providing them essential supplies, such as curling irons and week-old sushi.
He wants to fix health care. On Day One, Fred will demand health insurance for animals.
With passion for innovation, Fred will over fund the 5-wheel automobile concept.
FRED 2009
MAN, ACTOR, NO HOMO TENDENCIES
frodolinkimo 4 years ago
Fred Thompson IS the ONLY Candidate! If you love how Bush has run this country - VOTE FOR FRED! He will ensure status quo is maintained... We need to BOMB Iran and maybe even implement the draft! It doesn't matter how much money it costs - at least that is what my CFR buddies told me...we can either print it or borrow from communist China!!
GO FRED!
danitexas 4 years ago
Fred will make every islamo-fascist wet their pants. He'll make sure each one has a tree planted in their ass.
frodolinkimo 4 years ago
Fuckin-A
thebluemaggot 4 years ago
Luckily I'm not American and the rest of the world are not into warmongering or imperialism.
Dazla76 4 years ago
Why the hell are you supporting the war on YouTube, you should be in Iraq if you want to support the troops - CHICKENHAWK!
Dazla76 4 years ago 3
Vote Fred Thompson 2008!!!!
KingSportsFan 4 years ago
"This was Fred Thompson's first debate. You know, the long-awaited savior for the Republicans, Fred Thompson, is finally in the debates. It was a good chance for the voters to finally put the name with the cadaver." --Bill Maher
twochordcool 4 years ago 6
nixon once called thompson dumb as hell and i believe he was rite. thompson is all hype and doubt most people even kno where he stands on the issues. NO fred 08
zdwade 4 years ago 4
vote fred 08!!!
blair9123 4 years ago
VOTE FRED - to maintain status quo!
I love Bush - I love FRED!!
danitexas 4 years ago
Fred's no homo. That's all I need to know. He's got my vote!
frodolinkimo 4 years ago
he's dumb as hell
seks03 4 years ago
You mean he's dumb as shit.
frodolinkimo 4 years ago 4
He's smarter than a jar of dead flies, but just barely.
problem49 4 years ago
he is the lazy like pres bush don't elect him for president vote for ron paul
warlord2080 4 years ago 4
How many more friedman units do you want? The CIC already has shown he has no plan for this war and they never planned for it. The war was thrown from the start with the lack of planning. Hugh you continue to show why you are apart of the minority of americans. Baseless optimism. The fact remains you guys would love to see the troops continue to die for your inept leader
PogueMoran 4 years ago 6
Al-Qaida makes less than 10% of the insurgency. The fighting that is going on is coming from the Iraqi people of various sects. Yeah hard to report the good when people are dying all around you
PogueMoran 4 years ago 4
Ron Paul, Never voted to raise taxes, has way more experience than Thompson, voted against the patriot act and the iraq war, i think you get my point, get it right America Vote Ron Paul in 2008
atman009 4 years ago 2
America you need to WAKE UP!!! RON PAUL is our ONLY hope!! I have just turned 18 AND I FEAR FOR MY RIGHTS AND MY FUTURE!!! PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE WATCH THESE IN GOOGLE VIDEO "Freedom to Fascism" and "Zeitgeist" !!!
XTCinmee 4 years ago 3
Well yet again I heard on the news (CNN) that 15 people were killed and they were women and children. They weren't killed by terrorists. They were killed by coalition forces. Also the 3 star general stated basically that the war was failing. The videos are piling up here on youtube with soldiers saying the war is a failure and that we won't win because there is a civil war going on. The only way to support our troops is to bring them home immediately.
buddyfreakinholly 4 years ago 2
I saw Thompson in his first debate in Michigan. He didn't impress me at all.
THEAMETTS 4 years ago 5
Another clown in the white house, when will you Yanks ever learn. you can't even reply to the stupid things he says about Michael Moore on you tube.He's an actor, needs scripts an acts for a living, get real folks.
farmeadow 4 years ago 4
any person that thinks this man shoud be in the White House is a fool. he just keeps beating the same old horse. he will say anything to get your vote.
photoramasf 4 years ago 3
ATTENTION!! Click on my name and check out my video "Life of US Troops in the Iraq War" To see what is really going on. Our (ground) soldiers are exhausted and want to come home. Don't believe war supporters who are living in dreamland. The only way to support our soldiers is to bring them home immediately!
buddyfreakinholly 4 years ago 2
Oh yay another Rockefeller SHOW pony.
Fred Thompson member of CFR spp . gov
SOSnUSA 4 years ago
Appears to me that Thomson is the same jerk as the other frontrunners. At least he fits though.
kakaokaka 4 years ago
how about some actual video of him saying his views and opionions on stuff instead of the propoganda filth. there is no REAL reason given in this video as to why we should vote for thid man. also his acting career is non imporntant, being an actor has nothing to do with being the leader of anything
Ichiroson 4 years ago
Al Qaeda makes up only about 3% of the terrorist population in Iraq. There are so many different people fighting each other. Eventually one will have to take the lead and run the country with or without the help of the US. I would rather we let them do it themselves.
buddyfreakinholly 4 years ago
One thing is for certain If our soldiers are not there they will not die. There is already a civil war there now and I would rather that these sunni, Shia, and other tribal militants fight each other than us. The truth is we don't know what will happen if we just leave, But policing the world is what makes other countries hate us. Click on my name and watch my video "Soldiers Shoots Civillians" and "Iraq and Afghani war"
Karma000Justice 4 years ago 2
We dont know for sure what will happen but all the most likely scenarios would involve heavy amounts of genocide and likely result in us having to go back anyway which would take us back to square one and cost even more American lives. Second of all I am absolutely against basing any policy decision of the USA on what makes us popular with the rest of the world. What I mean is that we need to put what is in are own best interest ahead of what might score us popularity points with other nations.
Seekster 4 years ago
If there is problems in Iraq after we leave we still should not go back. Its their war. We got rid of their dictator and now its time that the Iraqi government step up and take control. Its not the responsibility of the US to police the world. We are trillions in debt, but forget that The real problem is that we have had 4500 of our troops die. Think about them and their families next time you support the war.
Karma000Justice 4 years ago 2
It has nothing to do with foreign nations anymore. Our own country is against this war. We already have heavy amounts of genocide going on in iraq and we are at square one. We went back to square one when we disbanded the iraqi army, removed the government and purged the baathists.
PogueMoran 4 years ago
Genocide you say? You want Genocide go to Darfur. You want genocide leave Saddam in power so he can gas the Kurds again. Sunni Iraqi's are fighting Sunni insurgents. Until the recent peace deal they signed, Al Sadr's Shia militia group was killing members of other Shia militia groups. Tell me how exactly does two members of the same ethnicity killing each other classify as genocide?
Seekster 4 years ago
They still are killing each other. You have not only sunnis killing sunnis (which the government doesn't count as violence) and shiites killing shiites but also sunnis killing shiites and kurds and etc. Everyone is fighting each other. How do we quell a civil war that we helped proliferate? Like it or not Saddam was the only thing keeping the country stable and keeping the radicals in line.
PogueMoran 4 years ago
So you propose letting Iraq go back to being a dictatorship Moran?
Seekster 4 years ago
What is the difference between the dictatorship they have now and the dictatorship they had then at this point? More people have died now than under Saddam, there is less infrastructure, less utilities and less electricity than under that cruel dictator we propped up. We've gotten to the point where our government has contemplated letting Mushariff take over the country.
PogueMoran 4 years ago
So why does he still think the Soviet Union is still a nation????? Is this how stupid some Americans really are? I think I'll send Ron Paull anothe 50 bux just because this commercial was so ridiculous. Flip flop/ Maybe he will end the Vietnam war too?
Raimunelar 4 years ago
What the hell are you talking about Rai? Nobody thinks the Soviet Union is still a nation.
Seekster 4 years ago
Do some research on Freds interview in Iowa the other day and then come back and tell me this again. Ron Paul is the only one who makes any sense.
Raimunelar 4 years ago 2
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Yeah hey lets leave Iraq. That makes sense right? Just pack up and leave. I mean the Kurds, Sunnis, and Shia are only killing each other because we are there upseting the natural order right? Once we leave they will probably stand on a hill outside Baghdad and sing "Buy the World a Coke" in arabic.
Seekster 4 years ago
No that's what Don Rumsfeld and company believed they'd be singing when we toppled Saddam. You're talking about people being unrealistic and that is exactly how we got into this mess. In your recent post you said you didn't even give a shit if they all killed each other so whats it actually matter to you?
PogueMoran 4 years ago
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Oh and those terrorists will leave them alone too. And Iran...of course they wont take such a golden opportunity to spread their sphere of influence which could possibly result in the acquiring of Nuclear Weapons by a terrorist organization. Of course not, yeah Ron Paul makes total sense.
Seekster 4 years ago
Thats right, let Iran deal with Iraq. Absolutely. Those tribes have been infighting forthousands of years. Do you really think that the Us with its short term history of interventionalism is going to change that. Wake up! They never fucked with us until the policy of the US as dictated by Israel through AIPAC kept us there. Thats rights the Sunnis and Shiites are killing each other and its their war, not ours and especially not mine. Civil wars cost money and lives and huge financial burdens.
Raimunelar 4 years ago
Sunnis and Shia can kill each other all they want for all I care, provided they keep Al Qaeda out which they seem to have decided to do. You really are a fool though, you know good and well what Iran will do with control in Iraq.
As for letting tribes kill each other, thank you so much, now stop whining when the Israelis retaliate against the Palestinians whom they have been fighting with since Biblical times.
Seekster 4 years ago
The Israeli's have occupied and mistreated the Palestinians for years. No my friend, you are quite clueless. The Israelis have been condemned numerous times even by the UN, who by the way I detest. Btw there was no Alquida in Iraq before we went in there. You must be another one that believes they hate us for our freedoms; Which freedoms would those be? Amazing how you know what they will do Mr. Prophet and exactly how do you propose the US will win?
Raimunelar 4 years ago
Compassionate conservatism? Who cares about the people of iraq they should just kill each other? Good lord is that what you guys believe? The iraqis by all intents and measures have kept Al Qaida out of Iraq as they make a small percentage of the insurgency. What you have is a 3 way civil war between the kurds, sunnis and shiites. They didn't understand the country before they invaded and they still dont
PogueMoran 4 years ago
Actually the Kurds dont really care what the Shia and Sunnis do. They tend to stay in the north and let everyone else kill each other. The Shia just got themselves a brand spakin new Country and are now killing each other because they cant agree how to run it. The Sunnis are fed up with Al Qaeda which is responsible for the vast majority of insurgent attacks in Iraq and has begun to realize that boycotting elections is not in their best interest.
Seekster 4 years ago
You haven't studied this conflict long enough seekster and obviously have no concept of what is going on. Maybe if you studied a bit about how we funded Bin Laden, how we armed Saddam, how we overthrew democratically elected governments and replaced them with cruel dictators because it was in our "best interest" you would understand the points Ron Paul makes
PogueMoran 4 years ago
Actually your wrong, I know all about how we funded the Taliban in their fight against the Soviets, I know all about how we gave weapons to Saddam in his fight against Iran. It was called the Cold War and we were fighting the Soviet Union. The Soviet Union is no more (contrary to the words you put in Fred;s mouth) now we have a new enemy and the diplomatic lines have been changed.
Seekster 4 years ago
We supported the Taliban and Saddam because it was against our interest for Soviet Union or for Iran to emerge victorious in those conflicts. Now our enemy is Al Qaeda and other Islamic Facist terrorist groups and thus Saddam and Bin Laden were not the enemy of our enemy but just our enemy. It makes perfect sense to me so whats your problem?
Seekster 4 years ago
We played both sides with Saddam. It was not anywhere close to our best interest. We knew the Soviet Union was collapsing on its own since the late 70s. Even so this has nothing to do with tyrants we put in place after we deposed democratically elected leaders. There is no such thing as Islamic Fascist. Those two terms cannot coexist. They are polar opposites.
PogueMoran 4 years ago
Seekster do you know we also supplied arms and help to Iran during that war? That we switched sides and supported saddam with chemical weapons? How we also encouraged the kurds to rise up against saddam and then did nothing and help saddam murder them? I didn't put words in Fred's mouth he said Soviet Union in his speech obviously he doesn't know the difference.
PogueMoran 4 years ago
So tell me seekster who is the majority in the country? Don't look it up. How does that compare to the rest of the middle east? By the way what actual views does Fred have other than empty rhetoric?
PogueMoran 4 years ago
The Majority in what sense, in terms of liberals or conservatives? Moderates will always be the majority in any country. Thompson outlines his platform in his Announcement video. If you want to see where all the candidates including Thompson stand then visit ontheissues dot com
Seekster 4 years ago
My response was actually about Iraq who is the majority in Iraq the shiites or the sunnis? How does that compare to the rest of the middle east? My question was to you seekster what actual views does thompson have that you agree with? You don't seem to care he sold his soul to lobby for abortion?
PogueMoran 4 years ago
Buddy, wawbwc just wait and see what happens will you. Jeez you are making issues where there are none yet. And here I thought you two were against "pre-emptive" strike.
Seekster 4 years ago
You know I am against pre-emptive strike because I support Ron Paul. Check out "Ron Paul on ABC World News 10-03-07" here on youtube. It appears that MCain and Huckabee are the fringe candidates now.
buddyfreakinholly 4 years ago
Paul, Tancredo, Hunter, Brownback, Huckabee are the second level candidates. Thompson, Rudy, Romney, and McCain are the first level candidates, as in the guys who have a chance. Well ok Huckabee has a chance as a vice-presidential pick.
Seekster 4 years ago
Actually Mccain is starting to slip into second tier status as his campaign falls apart. Mccain sold himself out thinking he'd become the Republican party's next leader. He lost his maverick qualities he once had that actually made him electable once. Thompson's campaign is imploding before it gets off the ground because of his continued Dan Quaylish gaffes that make him sound either lazy or stupid.
PogueMoran 4 years ago
Richard N Haas is now the CFR president. He was an advisor to George Bush SR and Bill Clinton. It doesn't matter which party you are in, The CFR is bipartisan. Abortion and gay marriage is not their consern. The Rockefellers even today are a powerful people shaping government.
buddyfreakinholly 4 years ago
Ok seriously id really really like someone to try using a different source other than youtube to back up their arguments. Youtube is a nice forum to debate but it contains almost no credible sources for these kinds of debates. Besides Im really getting tired of people perscribing videos for me to watch. Most of the time when I am commenting I am at school or work so I cant really watch a video with the sound on now can I?
Seekster 4 years ago
"George Bush is a RIGHT wing Neo-Con." Bush is a Populist leaning moderate Conservative. Not even a real Conservative. I define Neo-con as people like the KKK or neo-nazis who are also not real Conservatives. They are the very fringe, people who nobody likes.
Seekster 4 years ago
The goal of the average politician is to be the best liar (which explains Bill Clinton).
But in all seriousness if Rudy is trying to please the CFR then what the heck is he doing skipping out on Hispanic Community debates, or visting restaurants that will only serve customers who order in English. There are drastic differences in how Republicans and Democrats view foriegn policy among other issues.
Seekster 4 years ago
If the CFR's agenda is that broad then its bound to meet the will of some people. Or could it be that you have forgotten who the President's employer is? The President works for the American People on a four year contract. It is the people, not the CFR, the renews that contract. Dont get me wrong I have several issues with the CFR but they arent running the country.
Seekster 4 years ago
And you base this theory on...what exactly?
Seekster 4 years ago
Seekster; You have taken it to a new low. Common knowledge does not disagree with me. As for logic, you are using none, and yes you are everyday people. You are looking for a "father figure hero" and probably "miming" what has been programmed in you by elders. You strike me as being a bright young man. Remember this please; a person should "own" their own thoughts. If you really believe what you say, then so be it. Let us live in peace with our differences. I shall argue no further.
325NEK 4 years ago
I really really am not looking for a Father Figure in my President. I just want someone who isnt going to drive this Country into the ground. Thompson seems to me like he can actually improve things. I am very independent and I really dont like having to "take someone's word for it".
Im all for living in peace though. The argument was pointless to begin with but its slow at work right now and I was bored.
Seekster 4 years ago
You did not just imply that the race for President is a free ride?
Riddble me this wawbwc, with so many CFR members in the race how can they all look out for each other? Somebody has got to give and certain individuals who will remain *cough* Hillary *cough* nameless, want the office so bad they would kill for it. If its Rudy v Hillary or Fred v Hillary, nobody is going to pull any punches. They are both members of the CFR, they arent Free Masons. BIG DIFFERENCE.
Seekster 4 years ago
You do realize that all of the Presidential candidates are politicians who associate with other politicians. Politicians are undesirable people. Your logic would work on everyday people, it wont work here.
Seekster 4 years ago
Seekster: Careful, this smacks of hypocrisy. If you justify this behaviour for fred, (the red truck facade) ,you cannot criticise it when Gore or anyone else does it. It is an act of deception to win the hearts of the simple minded. Using double standards invalidates ones arguments.
325NEK 4 years ago
I was going on about the red truck "facade" for the sake of argument. I do not personally believe that it was all staged. Common knowledge disagrees with your take on the red truck but for the sake of argument and my own entertainment I decided to amuse myself by using your own logic against you.
Seekster 4 years ago
You do not personally believe the red truck incident was staged? Good lord you defy logic. Thompson didn't even drive that red truck but a few feet before his campaign stop. He rented the truck out and had someone else drive it most of the way while he got pulled around in his trailer. Common knowledge disagrees entirely with your account of the red truck. Just as it disagrees with you about Fred being on America's side during watergate instead of nixons
PogueMoran 4 years ago
Despite the fact that your take on the Red truck and Nixon is inaccurate for reasons I have mentioned earlier, they are also just as irrelevant to this race as Bill Clinton's sex life was to his presidency. (Bill Clinton was the personification of corruption but Monica had absolutely nothing to do with it). I care about one thing when choosing who to support for President; whose views most closely match my own. For this reason I support Thompson.
Seekster 4 years ago
The red truck incident is common knowledge and had been reported in the local papers at the time that yes he rented out the truck and didn't own or drive it. So once again do some more research kid. Also my bit about the Nixon part is also accurate as Thompson himself stated in his watergate memoirs that he had given the nixon lawyers information he was not authorized to give.
PogueMoran 4 years ago
Personification of corruption? You're kidding? So you don't think that's what Richard Nixon was? For all the shit you claim Clinton did all you guys could get was a cumstain on a blue dress and you needed to commit a perjur trap just to get that. You have no problem with Scooter Libby committing multiple felonys and then being let off by the hook by his boss? That is the definition of corruption.
PogueMoran 4 years ago
Actually Nixon was also a personification of corruption. My problem with Clinton has nothing to do with his infidelity. I didnt like Clinton but they impeached him for political reasons just as Scooter Libby was indicted because the Democrats couldnt get Cheney or Rove. Tell me exactly what felonies was Scooter Libby accused of. Bush should have pardoned Libby, not just commuted his sentence.
Seekster 4 years ago
If you bothered paying attention to the trial and read the entire transcripts Scooter was indicted because he commited perjury and obstruction of justice. The democrats had nothing to do with Scooter Libby. The Special Prosecutor was a Republican appointed by Bush as a Federal Attorney and appointed by Deputy AG Comey to be special prosecutor. The whole investigation was launched by DOJ and the FBI not the "democrats"
PogueMoran 4 years ago
Libby, Gonzales, DeLay, all victims caught in political cross fire because of Bush haters. I dont care who the President is, I would rather have Congress get things done to help the country rather than make political attacks. But of course they are politicians and politicians can always be trusted to do one thing, and one thing only, and that is to look out for their own personal interests.
Seekster 4 years ago
Libby and Gonzales were victims of their own design. Libby leaked the identity of an undercover NOC and took the fall for it. He committed multiple felonies and was a convicted felon. Gonzales willingly broke the hatch act, wrote decisions to violate criminal law and encouraged thus, and committed multiple perjuries before congress. He was a victim of his own stupidity. Congress was doing nothing but their job in looking into those scandals
PogueMoran 4 years ago
Actually Libby was never charged with anything other than perjury? Why because the prosecutor knew about the real leaker, Armitage. This was a witch hunt by bitter people for political purposes. As for Gonzales his mistake was that he didnt explain what he did to the American people before the Media came in and made it look like he did something illegal when in fact he did not.
Seekster 4 years ago
Are you kidding me? Libby was charged and convicted of two counts of perjury, one count of lying to the FBI and one count of obstruction of justice. Once again you don't pay attention to anything do you? Are you telling me that if 3 people rob 3 different banks only one person who robbed the one bank is responsible? There was nothing political about this.
PogueMoran 4 years ago
I thought you said Libby was charged with revealing the identity of an FBI agent (who wasnt actually under cover to begin with but thats a whole different issue). If they really and solid evidence to charge him with that then they would have done so. Instead they simply questioned him so many times until they found some slight contradiction and then had him charged with perjury which was the best they could get.
Seekster 4 years ago
Where did I say that? I said he was charged with perjury, obstruction of justice in connection with outing of an undercover CIA agent. Get the agency correct. The FBI investigated Libby's statements because they handle domestic matters. Its hard to get solid evidence when he was obstructing justice. Try understanding what obstruction of justice means and what perjury means then come back and reply.
PogueMoran 4 years ago
The special prosecutor was a Republican appointed by a republican president to be a federal attorney and appointed by a Republican department of justice. Stop lying kid. Gonzales lied about the reasons for why they were fired claiming incompetence and then backing down when that was proven false. Then he lied under oath about what the hospital meeting was about and he was contradicted by the head of the FBI and multiple witnesses.
PogueMoran 4 years ago
Gonzales should have just come out and said that the prosecutors were fired for political reasons, which they most likely were, but the executive branch has the legal right to hire and fire federal prosecutors as they see fit, hell Clinton fired over a hundred federal prosecutors because they didnt agree with him politically and nobody seemed to raise a fuss about that. Its all dirty partisan politics Moran, best accept it and deal with it rather than try to deny it.
Seekster 4 years ago
So you're saying that once again Gonzales perjured himself under oath. Clinton fired prosecutors at the start of his term because that's normal! Bush Jr. did it with Clintons, Clinton did it with Bush Sr, Bush Sr did it with Reagans. You obviously don't understand how our government works. Bush Jr. fired his own prosecutors because they weren't going after democrats.
PogueMoran 4 years ago
Libby wasn't charged with leaking as he was obstructing justice hence the conviction on obstruction of justice. He covered things up and lied to the grand jury about it. Libby is a convicted felon and was let off the hook by his boss after being ordered to leak plame's identity.
PogueMoran 4 years ago
I remember when the whole leak case broke on the news. At first the Dems targeted Karl Rove but found they couldnt take him down, next they tried Cheney, still no luck with the VP. Finally they had to settle with Libby and all they could get him on was a stinking perjury charge. Come on name one politician who hasnt lied? You could put any politician under oath and given enough time he or she would commit perjury.
Seekster 4 years ago
How could the democrats target Karl Rove? The democrats didn't run the investigation. The special prosecutor appointed by the justice department did. It is known that Karl had something to do with it but Libby obstructed the investigation so that they couldn't determine how involved Cheney was. If you paid attention to the investigation Rove was actually involved. So now you're saying because politicians lie that its okay to out undercover agents in the intelligence agency?
PogueMoran 4 years ago
Ive heard some people say that Fred has gone against the alleged ideals of the NAU plan multiple times. I havnt heard a decisive sound bite indicating this but you cannot seem to come up with decisive evidence that Fred is one of those who is in on the whole alleged NAU plot. (Still skeptical of the whole conspiracy idea but ill play along for now.) This leaves us at a stalemate.
Seekster 4 years ago
For the sake of argument: Can you offer evidence that would indicate a motive for the membership of FDT in the CFR? If not then the question of motive is up for opinion.
Seekster 4 years ago
To seekster: You can do a google search on Fred Thompson's rented truck. You will find many listings to choose from. No doubt though you will probably think them all liberal biased. P.S. I did not vote for Gore and consider him "politician" all the way. So is Fred. He reminds me too much of L.B.J. A "beltway bubba" relying on "father figure" imagery.
325NEK 4 years ago
If you dont vote for politicians then its safe to say that most of the time YOU DONT VOTE at all.
Seriously though if we assume that Fred is geniune then nuff said and he is a good man. If we assume that Fred is a politician and only used the pickup as a political tool then he is a clever politician who knows how to appeal to his constituents. So he is either a good man or a good politician. Personally I think he is both.
Seekster 4 years ago
Addendum to prev. post. I am aware of the levity intended with the cigar. Bad idea on his part. It is noted among constituents that he has them. "Gifts", so they say.
325NEK 4 years ago
And I would speak to the contrary of him/her.....There are witnesses. (no offense intended to your grandparent). Most of what M.Moore says is backed up with evidence. (Incidently I am not a big M.M. fan. I check the resources).
325NEK 4 years ago
There are witnesses saying that he traveled around in a red pickup and not a Limo too so you are going to need more than contrary witness testimony to support the Limo idea. Moore and now Al Gore are more self-serving than the modern day politician. They manipulate facts and twist them into their mistaken versions of reality. Neither of them seem to believe what they say in their movies but they do like the money they make from saps who buy the crap they sell.
Seekster 4 years ago
If Fred drove a blue pickup could he sway the democratic vote? It boggles the mind that an issue as important as who will lead the last super-power could hinge on his choice of campaign vehicle. If I tried I couldn't find a more trivial, unsubstantive issue upon which to determine my vote.
problem49 4 years ago
Problem...nobody cares what color his pickup is...hell most people probably dont even know so how could it be a hinge issue?
Seekster 4 years ago
What I dont understand, wawbwc, is why you dont have your own television show. I mean you appear to have the ability to read peoples minds and see their reasoning behind all of their decisions. I mean after all you seem to know exactly why Fred joined CFR.
Your argument is simplistic though it would pass the logic test if you provided some quote where Fred said "I joined CFR for the benefits". Since you lack even initial evidence the rest of your line of thinking simply falls apart.
Seekster 4 years ago
Hype, This man is a hypocrite. He criticized M.Moore for going to cuba all the while chewing on a cigar imported from cuba. (posted on Youtube). The U.S. has a strict ban on imports of any kind from cuba. Also during his "lil red truck" senate campaign, he would be limo'd to the truck that was parked only a few blocks from the rally. He would then take his coat off, roll up his sleeves, get in the truck and drive in like he rolled in from the farm. Another actor, whew!
325NEK 4 years ago
"He criticized M.Moore for going to cuba all the while chewing on a cigar imported from cuba." - 325NEK
You clearly lack that sense of what we like to call humor. Its hard to take an slug like Moore seriously since he is consistently wrong. Fred's sense of humor on the other hand was very refreshing for a politician.
As for the thing about the red truck. My Grandparent in Memphis, TN would speak to the contrary.
Seekster 4 years ago
»»»FRED THOMPSON for President!
truthfbeauty 4 years ago
Justin what a dull and unoriginal attack. Do you really believe that all members of the CFR support a North American Union? That is like saying all members of the DNC support Abortion. A group with membership as diverse as the CFR could not possibly stand in complete solidarity. To write Fred or anyone for that matter off because they are a member of the CFR without further backing is downright thoughtless. (Dont make me have to counter spam, keep your propaganda in one place at least.)
Seekster 4 years ago
Fred Thompson is not a leader.. He just plays one on TV. Don't be dellusional, and please don't spread your dellusion with a Days of Thunder sound track. It belittles our intelligence. You forgot to mention F. Thompson is a member of the CFR. An organization bent on reducing our soveriegnty in an effor toward globalization.
cmcdaniel37 4 years ago
Cut cut Ive heard this script before cmcdaniel dont know where you got it from but tell them its getting old. They need to come up with something new. Something I cant rip apart with facts in a relatively small number of posts.
Seekster 4 years ago
He's got my vote!!! Good luck liberal slime!!!
paulwall0905 4 years ago
Thanks!!!
problem49 4 years ago
Ho no!!! An other right wing nut!!! :(
MustacheVerra 4 years ago
Fred Thompson was a lobbyist for abortion and now he says he's pro-life. Fred Thompson is a CFR member. Who did Ronald Reagan endorse? Answer Ron Paul. He said he was a great leader.
buddyfreakinholly 4 years ago
Reagan is alive?
I might be willing to accept that Ron Paul's social record is impressively Conservative but he lacks common sense when it comes to foreign policy.
Fred Thompson has always been Pro-life just look at his voting record. Rather than just swallowing the lobbying thing at face value why dont you do a little digging into it and see what you find in terms of the abortion group.
Angelina is a member of CFR but she is still hot...whats your point?
Seekster 4 years ago
I wouldn't vote for any CFR member. And that goes for Angelina too. The president of the CFR himself states that we should give up soverignty for safety and that we should not think of ourselves as just Americans but should reconsider our borders.
buddyfreakinholly 4 years ago
Interesting quote, why didnt you mention something like that before? Do you have a credible source for that quote? Please send me the link if you do. Feel free to message me the link if you cannot post it here.
If their President did indeed make such a statment then I want to know. It does not change the fact that not all CFR members would support the idea of a NAU but it doesnt help the organization out.
Seekster 4 years ago
Here you go seekster. Check out "CFR on National Sovereignty vs Globalisation" here on youtube. And check out their own site CFR"dot"org and CFR"dot"org/publications/ Google CFR building a North American Community
buddyfreakinholly 4 years ago
Hmm let me make one thing clear, I am all for being on close and friendly terms with Canada and Mexico. They are our neighbors after all and it would be counterproductive to be on hostile terms with them. However I draw a very fine line between close realtions and infrigning on the soverignty of any of these nations by one of the others. Publically CFR has only been promoting extremly close ties with Canada and Mexico which is fine...however...
Seekster 4 years ago
...I would be very supportive of keeping a very very close eye on the organization. The moment they mention something about how it might be a good idea for the three nations to abandon their soverignty and become one, let me know and Ill do what I can to stop them. Forgive me for being a skeptic but I believe things like conspiracy theories should be approached with skepticism lest we become paranoid and give in to demagogues.
Seekster 4 years ago
Still you and hellsunicorn should be proud of yourselves. You have the reason and will to make your case to skeptics such as myself without obsessive name calling and shouting. While I am not convinced of the CFR's intentions I have recommended that they be watched closely. I will admit that the NAU conspiracy is by far more credible than something like the 9/11 conspiracy in that the CFR/NAU conspiracy is a possibility (though still a relatively unlikely one).
Seekster 4 years ago
However there is one main concern of mine that you have yet to directly address. The CFR is a large organization that deals with a wide range of foreign policy issues. It is a gigantic stretch of the imagination to believe that such a politically diverse group of members could all agree on the idea of an NAU.
Seekster 4 years ago
I have advised that each prominent member be examined for signs that they could possibly support such a movement. I intend to look into that myself since I am a fan of doing ones own research. Ill start with the Presidential candidates but by all means if you have any suggestions for individuals which you would like me to investigate give me their names.
In closing I have this to say: "YOUTUBE FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS GOOD GIVE US MORE THAN 500 CHARACTERS TO WORK WITH!"
Seekster 4 years ago
Who do our military soldiers support? Go to "Sean Hannity Outsmarted" here on youtube.
buddyfreakinholly 4 years ago
The people who say the Paulite outsmarted Hannity are the same people who think Paul won all the debates. These are the same people who would follow Ron Paul to Hell/Disney Land if he asked them to. In other words "Sean Hannity Outsmarted" is simply a matter of opinion.
Seekster 4 years ago
The point is that the majority of our military supports Ron Paul. Go to "maj General Stubblebine Supports 911 Conspiracy" here on youtube. Also check out "Soldiers are refusing to participate in the Iraq War" here on youtube.
buddyfreakinholly 4 years ago
Please please dont tell my you are basing this idea that the military supports Ron Paul or that they believe in the 9/11 conspiracy (which is proven to be utter nonsense) on youtube videos? Come on buddy I give you more credit than that.
Seekster 4 years ago
In the 2000 Republican presidential primaries, Thompson initially backed former Tennessee Gov. Lamar Alexander, who eventually succeeded Thompson in the Senate, two years later. When Alexander dropped out of the presidential race, Thompson endorsed Senator John McCain's bid and became his national co-chairman.[48] Both McCain and Thompson were contenders to be George W. Bush's running mate in 2000.[49][50]
- Wikipedia, Fred Thompson.
ThinkTankedUSA 4 years ago
so freddy's an actor eh?
didn't you yanks try that once with reagan? now THAT didn't really work out or what?
WhyDidYouDeleteME 4 years ago
Actually Reagan turned out to be the Greatest President since FDR. Now I dont think Fred Thompson is on the same level as Ronald Reagan but he is closer than any other candidate and so...
Vote Fred Thompson 2008 and 2012!!!
Seekster 4 years ago
As far as I'm concerned you cannot offer any evidence whatsover that the man you would chose as President is anything but a lying second rate play-actor. This is not to say that it would be the end of the world if he wins; Ronald Regan kept the seat nice and warm for eight years, and his head was stuffed with straw.
problem49 4 years ago
Something must be wrong with my eyes because I could have sworn you made a stupid crack about Ronald Regan who for all rights and purposes was the Greatest President since World War II. Im certain I must have been mistaken though, you cant be that stupid...
Seekster 4 years ago