Revenge is a word, 'that' does not stand in military terms, as a military action, therefore; when a military unit commits revenge, there 'is' no honor. Revenge is the only word you could put on this stupidity of killing old women, men and children. What honor is there in such an action? Therefore, rescind the Medals of Honor for the Wounded Knee Massacre (battle, in military terms).
Read the epic novel Rescue at Pine Ridge, 5 stars Amazon Int., the story of the revenge and redemption.
One of the exciting cavalry charges ever screened. No, it's not historically accurate. But there's some truth to the fact that Custer helped to save the Army of Potomac on the 3rd day of the Battle Gettysburg. His 3 charges smashed into Jeb Stuart's Division - hitting them on the front end and forcing the Rebs to retreat - upsetting part of Lee's plan that day for a pincer attack: Stuart from the rear and Pickett's Charge from the front - crushing the Federals in between.
Had the shoe been on the other foot at Plevna and the Turks were the attackers they wouldn't have been able to carry two rifles and ammo with them. It would have had to have been the Martini or the Winchester. and the repeater was underpowered except at close range, delicate and prone to fouling.
"Headquarters? In front of the attacking regiment!" One of the very best lines ever spoken in any war movie. Should be carved into the walls at West Point.
@horselips It reminds me of a quote of General George H Thomas during the Battle of Chicamauga. His troops are under severe attack. He orders an aide on a mission. When the aide asks General Thomas where he will be later, General Thomas replies, "Here".
14 years after the Little Big Horn, the 7th Cavalry was entrapped in a box canyon, and if it wasn't for the 9th Cavalry, there would have been a second massacre of the 7th Cav.
The Buffalo Soldiers, 9th Cavalry was rewarded with Presidential Parade Escort and Guard Duties for accomplishments, furthermore; the 9th Cav. received as many citations as most of the white cavs.
Read the novel, "Rescue at Pine Ridge", 5 stars Amazon, and Barnes & Noble.
I've just read the oddest thing. In popular imagination Confederate cavalry is always regarded as the gallant cavaliers but apparently they were pragmatic enough to carry six shooters while Union horse insisted on sabers I don't know either way but it's something new to think about. Most Union cavalry evolved into mounted infantry anyway, armed with Spencer repeaters and Henry rifles except maybe Custer's Wolverines,but it's something to imagine them charging Jeb Stuart' waving sabers.
@deriter64 Carrying extra weapons was a common practice north or south. Cavalrymen favored pistols because of their high number of shots, and because of the ability to use a handgun in confined spaces. When cavalry from opposing forces would become crowded together in a general melee it was often difficult if not impossible to swing a sabre effectively. A cavalrymen needed to be able to kill or wound his foe quickly because every moment he spent figting one enemy he exposed his back to another.
@Grimmest117 Hi, and thanks. That makes sense. Winston Churchill wrote that he survived the charge at Obduram because he had dislocated his shoulder and couldn't swing a sabre so he bought a broom handle Mauser that enabled him to dispatch two attackers in short order, which he couldn't have done with a sabre. Still, it must have been a strain on the wrist to blaze away with a heavy Colt cap and ball or a LeMat. I couldn't hit a target with a BB gun riding on a merry go round. All the best.
Everybody wants to pounce on the film's factual shortcomings. Fine. But why what about more contemporary movies like Oliver Stone's: JFK. ... Now that was complete nonsense.
This movie is terrific in spite of it being the most horrendous historical botch ever produced. But as much as it denigrates history it's fun to see Flynn and de Havilland together in romantic scenes. After all Macbeth and Julius Caesar are about as historically correct as Mickey Mouse but they keep putting Shakespeare on Broadway and the West End. And anyway Arthur Kennedy is the best supporting actor that ever lived,
@deriter64 Historically were up a creek without a paddle when it comes to what happened at the Little Bighorn. Majors Reno, and Benteen both despised Custer and wanted Custer out of the way so one of them could be promoted to his position. Promotion was rare in 1876. The Grant administration was so corrupt it's not hard to imagine a Grant directed US Army cover-up with Custer as the scapegoat. The Indian tribes involved in the battle each have a conflicting versions of what happened.
@deriter64 After all these years I still can't get a handle on Custer. His Civil War record seems sound and even in the west, as an archtypical Indian fighter, some of his opinions are enlightened compared to Chivington or even Sherman. He encountered superior numbers and was KIA but so was Chinese Gordon, :Pulleen or Leonidas. Corruption? What were a handful of soldiers of an industrial nation like the U.S. doing out there with single shot rifles anyway? Thanks again.
@deriter64 There were two reasons given for using that particular single shot carbine rifle. First, it was thought to be a better long range firearm. Secondly, the army thought that repeating rifles would encourage the troops to waste ammunition. The second reason was rather stupid, as the Battle of the Little Bighorn proved.
@Steve17010 Thank you for an intelligent response. But I stll believe that given the Winchester, the 16 shot Henry or the even more deadly Spencer the Seventh wouldn't have wouldn't have won Liitle Bighorn against those odds but would not have been massacred. Hell, I don't think it's fair but if the British army had Spencers instead of obsolete Martini Henrys the Zulu nation would have died 200 yards from the first line of infantry.
@Steve17010 Hi, I come off sounding so bloodthirsty but I'm not, nor am I a gun nut, just curious. These things happened and I wonder. You probably already know but for a good example of the impact of the repeating firearms on the battlefield look up Plevna and what the Turks with their Winchesters did to the Russian army. (Turks? Winchesters? Weird but true.) Or the Texas Rangers with those clumsy Colt Walkers against the Commanche. Or what Ike said about the M1. All the best.
@deriter64 I have not heard of the battle of Plevna but will check it out.
What I wonder about is that the United States army officials overlooked or ignored the impact of the Spencer repeating carbines when used by Union calvary troopers during the American Civil War. Such shortsightedness is staggering.
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Revenge is a word, 'that' does not stand in military terms, as a military action, therefore; when a military unit commits revenge, there 'is' no honor. Revenge is the only word you could put on this stupidity of killing old women, men and children. What honor is there in such an action? Therefore, rescind the Medals of Honor for the Wounded Knee Massacre (battle, in military terms).
Read the epic novel Rescue at Pine Ridge, 5 stars Amazon Int., the story of the revenge and redemption.
SpecialEffects9 3 months ago
One of the exciting cavalry charges ever screened. No, it's not historically accurate. But there's some truth to the fact that Custer helped to save the Army of Potomac on the 3rd day of the Battle Gettysburg. His 3 charges smashed into Jeb Stuart's Division - hitting them on the front end and forcing the Rebs to retreat - upsetting part of Lee's plan that day for a pincer attack: Stuart from the rear and Pickett's Charge from the front - crushing the Federals in between.
michsylvan 4 months ago 2
The scene describes this battle as Hanover, but those Custer charges were actually at North Cavalry Field, outside Gettysburg.
tcrlaf 4 months ago
Classic-
JG40061 5 months ago
Had the shoe been on the other foot at Plevna and the Turks were the attackers they wouldn't have been able to carry two rifles and ammo with them. It would have had to have been the Martini or the Winchester. and the repeater was underpowered except at close range, delicate and prone to fouling.
kpadmirer 6 months ago
After the Civil War there were plans to issue the US cavalry with a single-shot pistol.
The troopers were expected to rely on the saber and the pistol was to be used in an emergency or to dispatch a wounded horse.
kpadmirer 6 months ago
"Headquarters? In front of the attacking regiment!" One of the very best lines ever spoken in any war movie. Should be carved into the walls at West Point.
horselips 6 months ago
@horselips It reminds me of a quote of General George H Thomas during the Battle of Chicamauga. His troops are under severe attack. He orders an aide on a mission. When the aide asks General Thomas where he will be later, General Thomas replies, "Here".
Steve17010 6 months ago
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14 years after the Little Big Horn, the 7th Cavalry was entrapped in a box canyon, and if it wasn't for the 9th Cavalry, there would have been a second massacre of the 7th Cav.
The Buffalo Soldiers, 9th Cavalry was rewarded with Presidential Parade Escort and Guard Duties for accomplishments, furthermore; the 9th Cav. received as many citations as most of the white cavs.
Read the novel, "Rescue at Pine Ridge", 5 stars Amazon, and Barnes & Noble.
Long live the Buffalo Soldiers.
SpecialEffects9 6 months ago
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ERROLCUSTERFLYNN4EVR 7 months ago
I've just read the oddest thing. In popular imagination Confederate cavalry is always regarded as the gallant cavaliers but apparently they were pragmatic enough to carry six shooters while Union horse insisted on sabers I don't know either way but it's something new to think about. Most Union cavalry evolved into mounted infantry anyway, armed with Spencer repeaters and Henry rifles except maybe Custer's Wolverines,but it's something to imagine them charging Jeb Stuart' waving sabers.
deriter64 8 months ago
@deriter64 Carrying extra weapons was a common practice north or south. Cavalrymen favored pistols because of their high number of shots, and because of the ability to use a handgun in confined spaces. When cavalry from opposing forces would become crowded together in a general melee it was often difficult if not impossible to swing a sabre effectively. A cavalrymen needed to be able to kill or wound his foe quickly because every moment he spent figting one enemy he exposed his back to another.
Grimmest117 7 months ago
@Grimmest117 Hi, and thanks. That makes sense. Winston Churchill wrote that he survived the charge at Obduram because he had dislocated his shoulder and couldn't swing a sabre so he bought a broom handle Mauser that enabled him to dispatch two attackers in short order, which he couldn't have done with a sabre. Still, it must have been a strain on the wrist to blaze away with a heavy Colt cap and ball or a LeMat. I couldn't hit a target with a BB gun riding on a merry go round. All the best.
deriter64 7 months ago
Just can't get enough of the cavalry charges--- such exquisite drama!
hackfamily2011 11 months ago
Love this scene but much better with longer version. Used to be on YouTube. Love this movie!
dandydon777 1 year ago
Everybody wants to pounce on the film's factual shortcomings. Fine. But why what about more contemporary movies like Oliver Stone's: JFK. ... Now that was complete nonsense.
epm5433 1 year ago
This movie is terrific in spite of it being the most horrendous historical botch ever produced. But as much as it denigrates history it's fun to see Flynn and de Havilland together in romantic scenes. After all Macbeth and Julius Caesar are about as historically correct as Mickey Mouse but they keep putting Shakespeare on Broadway and the West End. And anyway Arthur Kennedy is the best supporting actor that ever lived,
deriter64 1 year ago
@deriter64 Historically were up a creek without a paddle when it comes to what happened at the Little Bighorn. Majors Reno, and Benteen both despised Custer and wanted Custer out of the way so one of them could be promoted to his position. Promotion was rare in 1876. The Grant administration was so corrupt it's not hard to imagine a Grant directed US Army cover-up with Custer as the scapegoat. The Indian tribes involved in the battle each have a conflicting versions of what happened.
Grimmest117 7 months ago
@deriter64 After all these years I still can't get a handle on Custer. His Civil War record seems sound and even in the west, as an archtypical Indian fighter, some of his opinions are enlightened compared to Chivington or even Sherman. He encountered superior numbers and was KIA but so was Chinese Gordon, :Pulleen or Leonidas. Corruption? What were a handful of soldiers of an industrial nation like the U.S. doing out there with single shot rifles anyway? Thanks again.
deriter64 7 months ago
@deriter64 There were two reasons given for using that particular single shot carbine rifle. First, it was thought to be a better long range firearm. Secondly, the army thought that repeating rifles would encourage the troops to waste ammunition. The second reason was rather stupid, as the Battle of the Little Bighorn proved.
Steve17010 6 months ago
@Steve17010 Thank you for an intelligent response. But I stll believe that given the Winchester, the 16 shot Henry or the even more deadly Spencer the Seventh wouldn't have wouldn't have won Liitle Bighorn against those odds but would not have been massacred. Hell, I don't think it's fair but if the British army had Spencers instead of obsolete Martini Henrys the Zulu nation would have died 200 yards from the first line of infantry.
deriter64 6 months ago
@deriter64 I agree with you.
Steve17010 6 months ago
@Steve17010 Hi, I come off sounding so bloodthirsty but I'm not, nor am I a gun nut, just curious. These things happened and I wonder. You probably already know but for a good example of the impact of the repeating firearms on the battlefield look up Plevna and what the Turks with their Winchesters did to the Russian army. (Turks? Winchesters? Weird but true.) Or the Texas Rangers with those clumsy Colt Walkers against the Commanche. Or what Ike said about the M1. All the best.
deriter64 6 months ago
@deriter64 I have not heard of the battle of Plevna but will check it out.
What I wonder about is that the United States army officials overlooked or ignored the impact of the Spencer repeating carbines when used by Union calvary troopers during the American Civil War. Such shortsightedness is staggering.
Steve17010 6 months ago
@Steve17010 some things never change
hulkmeister23 5 months ago
Just like trying to take back W116th and 8th avenue from the drug dealers July 7th 1974
sunrecords56 1 year ago
thanks to this clip.... i now know how to write "charge" in Greek.
x5deadlyvenoms 1 year ago
Custer!!!!!!!!!!
commandersheperd1 1 year ago
this was a pretty good movie. thanks for calling and sharing.
kumasie01 2 years ago