R.I.P Sophie, my friend once asked me about my spohie wrist band and i was crying telling her cos sophie was a beautiful wonderful girl (I actually knew her) who never deserved anything like that. agree we don't choose to be goth its just the way some people are me being one of them. X
Oh my goth! That is horrible :( people like this are to be pittied for there lack of human feeling,
and their repulsivnes. yet who could ever pitty those abominations...ugh seriously hating on others because of the way they dress...it is just sad that there are people who do something as ridiculouss as this.
maybe carrying around pepper spray or some special jewlery with knives and such would help? but then again if they are many a single armor ring with a blade won't do..
Totally agree! But Goth isn't a personality. Goth is a fashion/ subculture. People are goths for ALL different reasons. There is not a set personality for a goth. Every goth is an individual person with a different personality. You choose to be goth, for whatever reason, you are not born goth or with a "goth" personality.
Uhmm... That's not what happened to Sophie and Rob. Robert didn't die. Both of them went into a comma, Rob recovered slowly, but it became clear that Sophie would never regain consciousness, so in August 24th, 2007 (two weeks after the attack, not that same night), her family agreed to switch off the life support and she died... R.I.P. Sophie Lancaster ♥
When I went to Bloodstock a year or two after the incident, There was a Sophie Lancaster stall, and the band who wrote a song about her (Beholder) sang it live. It was a very special moment in my life to see first - hand the unity of the alternative scene. They released 'Never Take Us Down' as a single - all the profits went to the charity :D I wear my wrist band with pride and haven't taken it off in the 3 years that I've owned it!
Comment was directed at person above, btw. In Dublin people can be very intolerant. I've had people start fights with me on public transport,in bars, in college or even when I'm in work and just because I'm a girl with a lot of piercings and part of my head shaved. Yes, it's my choice to look this way but the blame should lie with people who are so small minded that they react with violence every time they see someone who looks different.
This was(and still is),horrible. Every time I hear about a goth who got bulled or beaten I'm tempted to go out in "normal" clothing.Its horrible that people hate goths enough to beat us,or throw rocks at us,or anything of that nature.Seriously,it scares me sometimes.
Her boyfriend is still alive, he survived it. R.I.P Sophie <3 I wear my wristband with pride! Our thoughts are with you! P.S I love your video's Sebastian :D
I must admit: I've had this problem, and still do, in my school. I get harassed by some brutes constantly because I simply prefer different things from the average kid in Bithlo High. There's probably only 5 Alt. Kids in the school excluding myself. Unfortunately, there's this poseur creep who,, goes to our school as a student, despite being a marked sexual predator. Hes gone to extents of trying to rape one or my friends in the school. It doesn't matter the grounds anymore: Learn self defense!!
i would feel like i did more if i paid for it myself so i can say yes i paid for this and it really meant something. its her choice if she wants people to pay for it but i dont think it means as much except kind of mooching on a serious subject. on the other issue that story made me cry it was horrible.
Im nots to keen on spreading the word with all the goths that are trolling goth thing I should know I posted some love for her a while back and got shit for it got called a poser that was just posting it for "goth credit" :T wrong page at the wrong time...
this is bull. who could do that? I heard this story before from a friend of mineess.. and i was shaking Mahn.. :/ where can you get a wristband from?!
The boyfriends interviews afterwards are heartbreaking. </3 ): I'm gonna get a wristband at some point, but as a quick fact, Cristina Scabbia from Lacuna Coil has a wristband and wears it on alot of tours. Even on the most recent tour in the UK. <3
It's always good to raise awareness about Sophie, however, her boyfriend survived (they didn't both die) and Sophie actually died 13 days later. What's most shocking is that the paramedics couldn't tell who was male and who was female, because of the facial damage. Anyone interested can look up the case online. The S.O.P.H.I.E Foundation is amazing, I wear my band every single day. It happened here in the UK; a friend of mine actually knew Sophie, she was a lovely, sweet and kind girl.
@MegaGibby96 That's not the meaning of goth (though there are many interpretations) being goth is a lifestyle it has nothing to do w/ your emotions. I know many many goths that are happy, I'm happy. Sure I'm not happy all the time, no one is. Descision or not, it's irrelevant. It's about how individuals feel comfertable. Some people feel comfy running around in hollister shirts and playing soft ball, I feel comfy in black vintage lace, spending the majority of my day drawing and sewing.
@Gothtecdotcom I think what she meant was that women just have to be -even more- careful because it happens to them more often... ;) but not that it cant happen to men,she never said that.
@Gothtecdotcom I never said it aint common, either just like she didnt^^ I know a male victim myself but it simply is a fact that it happens a bit more often to girls.
true of what you said, ATTACKERS.. i am a goth and was raped by a gangster years ago,doesn't matter who you are, and i have had a lot of gangs looking people tell me"hey you are one of those kinky girls" and i say usually no i just like the color black and gotten clear but can imagine, and.... attackers....must...end...
That's crazy that kind of stuff happens to Gothic ppl I hope the person who did this will get punished by The Us Government and i guess it would be safe if Us Gothic People be andwalk in groups so stuff like this won't happen.
I had the sophie lancastor vids played during my school assembly as part of our anti-bully campaign, and since im the only goth the in school i always had alot of criticism thrown my way, My principal thought it was a good idea and by the end of the day, i had alot of people realizing it was my idea and actually understanding and being alot less sinister towards me :)
Her boyfriend didn't die. He was just badly wounded. Also it's not a hate crime. What makes one Goth is simply the music one listens to and, to a lesser extent, the clothes one wears, both of which are *entirely* one's own *personal choice*, no matter how much you try to pretend that it's a "personality" or a "lifestyle."
No innocent person deserves to be attacked and killed. She was a *human being* above all else, who was killed for no reason. Whether she was Goth or not is irrelevant.
@StainlessVanadium shes not saying goth is a personality or lifestyle, its basicly like the zodiac signs, theyre all mainly similar, but theyre all still different (similar representing accuracy in the zodiac)
i remember the story about her. I was looking up pictures for my background and i came across her photo. So i clicked on it and read the news paper artical about it. I actually started crying (this was at school by the way)
@Kortneiii im not saying that it was okay for those ppl to beat them to death. but goth is someone u choose to be. its like someone who is homosexual. they dont choose to be it, its just a feeling they have. i dont dislike goths, not at all
@SebastianTheGirl so the meaning of "Goth" is being dark, or sad. Inside im sad. no doubt bout it. but i dont choose to be a Goth, and THATS a choice that ur making. to be in a certain group. nobody is born Goth. ur making a descision.
@MegaGibby96 being 'dark' &'sad' does not define Goth! Being a Goth is having a certain mentality; having an appreciation for & seeing the beauty in the darker things in life. Not fearing things like death & just accepting & liking the darkness in ourselves &others. Usually people with that mentality are drawn to dark things, dark colours like bats etc naturally. Some might be depressed but depression doesn't make you a goth!
@Cardien18 like i said before, ur choosing to be goth. Goth isnt a religion. If goth was never created. What would you be then? someone who sees the world in a different way is still the same person. ur choosing to be in a certain way.
@PanicPuppet06 no no, goth isnt a way life. ppl arent born goth. Goth is wat someone created. its a style. Dressing with Dark Clothing,and dark makeup. ur choosingt to do those things. u dont have to do that. YOU ARE "CHOOSING" TO DO THAT.
@MegaGibby96 no no, goth IS a lifestyle. yes, u do choose to dress that way, and ur right, ur not born goth but u grown up goth. i know alot of people that are goth and dont dress in all black. its not a clothing style, its not a music, its a way of life. look shit up and get info before u run ur mouth. ^^
@MegaGibby96 No one chooses to be what others label as goth, to have that dark mentality- that's just the way we develop & become. But what goths DO choose is how much we express it i.e. in clothing, makeup, hair etc. No one should say to another person to stop being who they are or live&dress a certain way if it doesn't hurt anyone. What you don't understand is the different between a true goth & a poser goth who just wants to look cool and wants attention etc
@SebastianTheGirl dear Sebastian I love this video but you have some of your facts wrong. 1 Sophie's boyfriend did live on but suffered some memory loss and he lost his sence of taste. 2. Sophie died about two weeks later while in the hospital. other than that your spot on. Great Video
@MegaGibby96 it's like someone liking pop music, it's not like they sit down and and say okay today I'm going to like pop music. if you like it yuou listen to it. It's not a choice is it?
R.I.P Sophie, my friend once asked me about my spohie wrist band and i was crying telling her cos sophie was a beautiful wonderful girl (I actually knew her) who never deserved anything like that. agree we don't choose to be goth its just the way some people are me being one of them. X
4mday 21 hours ago
i fucking laughed at kinky sex.
DANIELWHERESTHEB0AT 2 weeks ago
I WILL RAPE MEN IN THE STREET WITH MY RAKE!!!!!
DANIELWHERESTHEB0AT 2 weeks ago
@TheJoskee yes it was.
IlluminatiChild666 3 weeks ago
A song for Sophie by a local band here; /watch?v=3wl6Jcstr7U
WithinTheWater 1 month ago
Oh my goth! That is horrible :( people like this are to be pittied for there lack of human feeling,
and their repulsivnes. yet who could ever pitty those abominations...ugh seriously hating on others because of the way they dress...it is just sad that there are people who do something as ridiculouss as this.
maybe carrying around pepper spray or some special jewlery with knives and such would help? but then again if they are many a single armor ring with a blade won't do..
ArbrusMN 1 month ago
Totally agree! But Goth isn't a personality. Goth is a fashion/ subculture. People are goths for ALL different reasons. There is not a set personality for a goth. Every goth is an individual person with a different personality. You choose to be goth, for whatever reason, you are not born goth or with a "goth" personality.
pinksugarbubbles1 1 month ago 5
wasnt this in england ?
TheJoskee 1 month ago
@TheJoskee yes.
WithinTheWater 1 month ago
@TheJoskee yeah it was in England. I think it happaned in a place called Lancaster park
sasukecs2kurai 3 weeks ago
damn girl you look good
MrWillbarrel 1 month ago
Uhmm... That's not what happened to Sophie and Rob. Robert didn't die. Both of them went into a comma, Rob recovered slowly, but it became clear that Sophie would never regain consciousness, so in August 24th, 2007 (two weeks after the attack, not that same night), her family agreed to switch off the life support and she died... R.I.P. Sophie Lancaster ♥
Lubaaggi 1 month ago 16
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she died on my birthday.... D:
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When I went to Bloodstock a year or two after the incident, There was a Sophie Lancaster stall, and the band who wrote a song about her (Beholder) sang it live. It was a very special moment in my life to see first - hand the unity of the alternative scene. They released 'Never Take Us Down' as a single - all the profits went to the charity :D I wear my wrist band with pride and haven't taken it off in the 3 years that I've owned it!
WillowNightingale 1 month ago
I've had people threaten me when I was walking down the street just for wearing my pentacle necklace. The ignorance of a lot of people astounds me.
Rest In Peace Sophie <3
MissMeowTheZombieCat 1 month ago
Sophie is in our hearts forever. Every goth, every individual, every intelligent girl and boy all keep her memory alive.
TwiggyPunky 1 month ago
Comment was directed at person above, btw. In Dublin people can be very intolerant. I've had people start fights with me on public transport,in bars, in college or even when I'm in work and just because I'm a girl with a lot of piercings and part of my head shaved. Yes, it's my choice to look this way but the blame should lie with people who are so small minded that they react with violence every time they see someone who looks different.
prettyriot 1 month ago
Ms Columbine, thank you so much for doing this! It means a lot to many of us. This is something that I am very passionate about. I'm proud of you!
AspergirlSithstress 1 month ago
It really disgusts that there are people like that out there. Similar story with Brian Deneke
AshVladimirchick 1 month ago
This was(and still is),horrible. Every time I hear about a goth who got bulled or beaten I'm tempted to go out in "normal" clothing.Its horrible that people hate goths enough to beat us,or throw rocks at us,or anything of that nature.Seriously,it scares me sometimes.
Flore2938 1 month ago
"they died"...I'm pretty sure the boy friend lived...
Flore2938 1 month ago
I just got my Illamasqua package along with my S.O.P.H.I.E. bracelet! :)
witchsin 1 month ago
Her boyfriend is still alive, he survived it. R.I.P Sophie <3 I wear my wristband with pride! Our thoughts are with you! P.S I love your video's Sebastian :D
jodderzJEALOUSY 1 month ago
I must admit: I've had this problem, and still do, in my school. I get harassed by some brutes constantly because I simply prefer different things from the average kid in Bithlo High. There's probably only 5 Alt. Kids in the school excluding myself. Unfortunately, there's this poseur creep who,, goes to our school as a student, despite being a marked sexual predator. Hes gone to extents of trying to rape one or my friends in the school. It doesn't matter the grounds anymore: Learn self defense!!
XPaladinxMarchx 1 month ago
i would feel like i did more if i paid for it myself so i can say yes i paid for this and it really meant something. its her choice if she wants people to pay for it but i dont think it means as much except kind of mooching on a serious subject. on the other issue that story made me cry it was horrible.
Jannibean 1 month ago
You do not choose what you like. Why can't people understand that?
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Im nots to keen on spreading the word with all the goths that are trolling goth thing I should know I posted some love for her a while back and got shit for it got called a poser that was just posting it for "goth credit" :T wrong page at the wrong time...
frightsummers99 1 month ago
how can i support?
ZombieKitty25 1 month ago
@ZombieKitty25 buy i bracelete, its like two bucks, its in the desription
MegaGibby96 1 month ago
What happened to Sophie was a tragedy and should never have happened.
SykesDyke 1 month ago 2
Fuck.... this is the first time I heard of it but... that's really shit! why can't poeple just accept each other?
KindaConfused616 1 month ago
whoa....you get stalked too o.e
WickedWolfGoddess 1 month ago
this is bull. who could do that? I heard this story before from a friend of mineess.. and i was shaking Mahn.. :/ where can you get a wristband from?!
thisischelsea123 1 month ago
That is always a good thing
TheRebelde75 1 month ago
I love the Sophie Lancaster Foundation. Its a brilliant thing. This incident has always touched me. It doesnt help my name is Sophie to...
MrMooseham 1 month ago
The boyfriends interviews afterwards are heartbreaking. </3 ): I'm gonna get a wristband at some point, but as a quick fact, Cristina Scabbia from Lacuna Coil has a wristband and wears it on alot of tours. Even on the most recent tour in the UK. <3
DaughterOfVampire 1 month ago
It is a hate crime! Does anyone know if they ever caught the assholes?
HILLARYXNOELZ 1 month ago
Her bf survived ^^; But its a really sad storry...
TakitoAmiko 1 month ago
It's always good to raise awareness about Sophie, however, her boyfriend survived (they didn't both die) and Sophie actually died 13 days later. What's most shocking is that the paramedics couldn't tell who was male and who was female, because of the facial damage. Anyone interested can look up the case online. The S.O.P.H.I.E Foundation is amazing, I wear my band every single day. It happened here in the UK; a friend of mine actually knew Sophie, she was a lovely, sweet and kind girl.
Victoriomantic 1 month ago
@MegaGibby96 That's not the meaning of goth (though there are many interpretations) being goth is a lifestyle it has nothing to do w/ your emotions. I know many many goths that are happy, I'm happy. Sure I'm not happy all the time, no one is. Descision or not, it's irrelevant. It's about how individuals feel comfertable. Some people feel comfy running around in hollister shirts and playing soft ball, I feel comfy in black vintage lace, spending the majority of my day drawing and sewing.
InvaderAlley 1 month ago
You saying men cant be rape victims? carefull..
Gothtecdotcom 1 month ago
@Gothtecdotcom I think what she meant was that women just have to be -even more- careful because it happens to them more often... ;) but not that it cant happen to men,she never said that.
Elektro0Hexe 1 month ago
@Elektro0Hexe I disagree, Male rape is more common than you think...
Gothtecdotcom 1 month ago
@Gothtecdotcom I never said it aint common, either just like she didnt^^ I know a male victim myself but it simply is a fact that it happens a bit more often to girls.
Elektro0Hexe 1 month ago
P.s..i have been fighting for gay rights for years now EQUALITY and ....they will not win no matter for gays , goths, or what you stand for/////
3LOADED 1 month ago
true of what you said, ATTACKERS.. i am a goth and was raped by a gangster years ago,doesn't matter who you are, and i have had a lot of gangs looking people tell me"hey you are one of those kinky girls" and i say usually no i just like the color black and gotten clear but can imagine, and.... attackers....must...end...
3LOADED 1 month ago
Hmmmm i might get a tattoo in Respect for her. I heard about her story, heartbreaking.
DaniCasta369 1 month ago
That's crazy that kind of stuff happens to Gothic ppl I hope the person who did this will get punished by The Us Government and i guess it would be safe if Us Gothic People be andwalk in groups so stuff like this won't happen.
TheRebelde75 1 month ago
@TheRebelde75 this incident was in the UK
but i agree about being safe :)
MyDarkVoodoo 1 month ago
@MichaelColeSuckedME how do we report this dummy named Michel cole........your a joke!! ;-)
wickedgothchick 1 month ago
@wickedgothchick
wickedgothchick 1 month ago
@MegaGibby96 lol thats not the meaning that sounds retarded dark and sad wow lmao!!!!
wickedgothchick 1 month ago
wow thats just ......I Dont knw what to say to that
spookychels13 1 month ago
I had the sophie lancastor vids played during my school assembly as part of our anti-bully campaign, and since im the only goth the in school i always had alot of criticism thrown my way, My principal thought it was a good idea and by the end of the day, i had alot of people realizing it was my idea and actually understanding and being alot less sinister towards me :)
MissMadHatteRSammiie 1 month ago
thanks
TheRebelde75 1 month ago
This was really thoughtful! <3 I will definatley help that cause! :)
RavenRosemarie13 1 month ago
Question Can you be a homosexual and Gothic
TheRebelde75 1 month ago
@TheRebelde75 seriously? wow.. you can be anything you want to be!
pleasantbullet666 1 month ago 2
Her boyfriend didn't die.
I can't imagine the pain he must carry day to day. :{
AmarathAsura 1 month ago
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WOW YOU UGLY HOMO CLOWN EAT MY SHIT!
MichaelColeSuckedME 1 month ago
Her boyfriend didn't die. He was just badly wounded. Also it's not a hate crime. What makes one Goth is simply the music one listens to and, to a lesser extent, the clothes one wears, both of which are *entirely* one's own *personal choice*, no matter how much you try to pretend that it's a "personality" or a "lifestyle."
No innocent person deserves to be attacked and killed. She was a *human being* above all else, who was killed for no reason. Whether she was Goth or not is irrelevant.
StainlessVanadium 1 month ago
@StainlessVanadium shes not saying goth is a personality or lifestyle, its basicly like the zodiac signs, theyre all mainly similar, but theyre all still different (similar representing accuracy in the zodiac)
itsjojovan 1 month ago
i remember the story about her. I was looking up pictures for my background and i came across her photo. So i clicked on it and read the news paper artical about it. I actually started crying (this was at school by the way)
94samt 1 month ago
just goes to show how fucked up the world really is
Suicidalxbullet 1 month ago
i cry when i think of Sophie Lancaster the uk is so fucked up
antichristeileen 1 month ago
R.I.P SOPHIE
MegaGibby96 1 month ago 2
My best friend Caz :) Im very proud of her, love ya cazzz <3
BrettJonesCD 1 month ago 17
I put this on my facebook wall for all people to understand how aweful these things can be, thank u for posting sebastian
MHgothicKpoplover 1 month ago
thx i spreed the word
mimiges11 1 month ago
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well.. ppl choose to be goth, its a choice. its like being Scene.
MegaGibby96 1 month ago
@MegaGibby96 Sure it's a choice, but having an unorthodox appearance doesn't justify others beating her to death.
Kortneiii 1 month ago 3
@Kortneiii im not saying that it was okay for those ppl to beat them to death. but goth is someone u choose to be. its like someone who is homosexual. they dont choose to be it, its just a feeling they have. i dont dislike goths, not at all
MegaGibby96 1 month ago
@MegaGibby96 Your personality is not a choice, DRESSING a certain way is. Don't compare Scene to Goth.
SebastianTheGirl 1 month ago 67
@SebastianTheGirl so the meaning of "Goth" is being dark, or sad. Inside im sad. no doubt bout it. but i dont choose to be a Goth, and THATS a choice that ur making. to be in a certain group. nobody is born Goth. ur making a descision.
MegaGibby96 1 month ago
@MegaGibby96 being 'dark' &'sad' does not define Goth! Being a Goth is having a certain mentality; having an appreciation for & seeing the beauty in the darker things in life. Not fearing things like death & just accepting & liking the darkness in ourselves &others. Usually people with that mentality are drawn to dark things, dark colours like bats etc naturally. Some might be depressed but depression doesn't make you a goth!
Cardien18 1 month ago
@Cardien18 like i said before, ur choosing to be goth. Goth isnt a religion. If goth was never created. What would you be then? someone who sees the world in a different way is still the same person. ur choosing to be in a certain way.
MegaGibby96 1 month ago
@MegaGibby96 Goth is a way of life though. And your comparison to religion makes no sense. You still have to [choose] what religion you believe in.
PanicPuppet06 1 month ago
@PanicPuppet06 no no, goth isnt a way life. ppl arent born goth. Goth is wat someone created. its a style. Dressing with Dark Clothing,and dark makeup. ur choosingt to do those things. u dont have to do that. YOU ARE "CHOOSING" TO DO THAT.
MegaGibby96 1 month ago
@MegaGibby96 no no, goth IS a lifestyle. yes, u do choose to dress that way, and ur right, ur not born goth but u grown up goth. i know alot of people that are goth and dont dress in all black. its not a clothing style, its not a music, its a way of life. look shit up and get info before u run ur mouth. ^^
RavenDirgeXD 1 month ago
@MegaGibby96 No one chooses to be what others label as goth, to have that dark mentality- that's just the way we develop & become. But what goths DO choose is how much we express it i.e. in clothing, makeup, hair etc. No one should say to another person to stop being who they are or live&dress a certain way if it doesn't hurt anyone. What you don't understand is the different between a true goth & a poser goth who just wants to look cool and wants attention etc
Cardien18 1 month ago
@Cardien18 TRUE GOTH!!!! POSER GOTH!!!!
I can't believe you actually label members of the goth subculture like that.Sounds pretty damn silly when you think about it....
asnabelgur 1 month ago
@asnabelgur i actually don't like labelling but i did because i wanted to get my point across clearly :/
Cardien18 1 month ago
@Cardien18 I love this person. Knows what they are talking about and everything.
PanicPuppet06 1 month ago
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Cardien18 1 month ago
@SebastianTheGirl dear Sebastian I love this video but you have some of your facts wrong. 1 Sophie's boyfriend did live on but suffered some memory loss and he lost his sence of taste. 2. Sophie died about two weeks later while in the hospital. other than that your spot on. Great Video
AlternativeLifeTV 1 month ago
@SebastianTheGirl EVER!
...you forgot the rest of that last sentence. lol
d3v1lb1rd 1 month ago
@MegaGibby96 doesnt mean you should kill them -___-
NancyKTV 1 month ago
@NancyKTV im not saying that, it was a fucked up thing that those two guys did. but i was just taking but Sebastain said in this video
MegaGibby96 1 month ago
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@MegaGibby96 it's like someone liking pop music, it's not like they sit down and and say okay today I'm going to like pop music. if you like it yuou listen to it. It's not a choice is it?
Cardien18 1 month ago
Doesn't matter if it's a choice. Someone was attacked and murdered. Choice is irrelevant.
prettyriot 1 month ago
I've known about this for awhile and I'm glad you've brought it up. Makes me wish the human race was better.
HeartOfFantasy 1 month ago
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MegaGibby96 1 month ago
It's shit like this that makes me so angry.
PsychoticFairy333 1 month ago
Oh god, I actually LOVE you. Thanks for doing this, Sebastian. Eternal love is going your way <3
SelfMedicateWithTea 1 month ago
that's horrible :\
XblackveilbridesxXx 1 month ago
Thanks Sebastian ! :)
Klaudia249249 1 month ago
Thanks for sharing Sebastian! :)
crabbydabby 1 month ago
That's just sick, & I agree with everything you're saying. xx
dropdeadbxtchh 1 month ago