your all wrong, he is not fast, you should hear what Shostakovich himself play this pieces,that is more even faster!>< actually, if we took the blance between Shostakovich and him ,that would be the perfect playing speed
I saw this live by a user called choen444. It was brilliant. Couldn't erase the smile from my face. The recording quality is bad, but try: ricardo acosta shostakovich. You'll find the concert, surely.
I hate to agree with someone who so poorly expresses himself (grammatically speaking), but I have to agree in meaning with sagax2005. The soloist did tend to rush. This piece for a less experienced musician is particularly hard due to its extended parallel motion octaves. The tendency is to over-exert the energy needed to play the passage and consequently rush.
You all are acting like any high school could just sit down and play a piano concerto. Concertos were written to challenge professional musicians and to allow them to show off there skills. For a high-schooler to be able to play this, well..... Could you play it in High School?
The conductor is called a conductor for a reason. He is in charge of the whole performance. The soloist is just the sole member of the orchestra playing the line. It is the conductor who keeps the music together. I have so much more to say, but i would tire myself out just to comment. Don't be fools who think the soloist decides the tempo.
Oh My Gosh! I really want to be able to play this concerto with an orchestra. However, you really made it pretty bad. From the start you were rushing, and this is not shostakovich. This is pure Ryan Lin with everyone trying to follow. There is extremely lack of feeling. This is so bland. I'm surprised the conductor could even bear to continue. Perhaps there was no other pianist.
@sagax2005 Its hard playing that fast and he has no time to look at the composer. He's probably struggling to keep up. And anyway, he's a high schooler, so the fact that he can play this is impressive enough.
From 4:33 to 4:40 he was on his own selfish-i-ignore-the-orchestra time. xDDD Besides the rush and sudden tempo changes, feels desperate. He could have been running all the piece but what about feeling? I feel that thing desperate like he wanted to finish to go bath or sumthin. Cristina Ortiz performance on youtube for this piece is the new standard, check it out... peace!
To everyone that says he needs to pay more attention to the conductor:
When I played a concerto with the local orchestra, the conductor told me to completely ignore him. He told me that I was in charge. It's a piano concerto, so therefore, the pianist is in charge.
That was the conductor choosing to honor your tempos. The fact remains that it was not within your power to directly control the orchestra, it was within his. The orchestra has to go at the tempo of the conductor, not the soloist- it is the conductor's choice to try to follow the soloist or not. That puts the responsibility on the soloist either to try to listen to the orchestra, or to set tempos which the conductor can follow.
Both the orchestra and the soloist far surpass high school level. As a high schooler working on this piece now, I have to commend them for ASTOUNDING skill- it's clear the orchestra director is great at teaching technicality, musicality and overall unity. However, it seems he has not taught the orchestra or the soloist who is really in charge- the conductor. Tempo changes are frequent (see 2:33 and 6:48), and from the beginning, it looks like they do not follow the stick.
The soloist has no means of directly communicating with the orchestra. The conductor may choose to try to follow the soloist's tempo during performance, but the tempo the orchestra plays is the one set by the conductor.
I change my mind a little, though. It was the soloist's fault for making it hard for the conductor to follow his tempos. But if you watch the start, the conductor's stick technique is too flowy for this piece. That's why the orchestra falls behind- the beats are indefinite.
@jacobflaschen In a concerto, the orchestra is equally as important as the soloist. And really? If they were up to the soloist, then the soloist would be conducting and playing. This isn't the case, so he still has to listen to orchestra and follow the conductor.
I love this piece and I love it at a good clip. This kid is super -- and I'm uber impressed with the orchestra and maestro keeping up with him. OK he should be watching, but the joy of the piece is its pace. Wonderful job.
@alphabetgreen1996 I'd rather call it youthful playing, but very good. This young pianist will gain patience and control as he gets more seasoning. Hard to believe that's a high school orchestra. Their intonation and attack are uncommonly good for a high school. They do a very good job here.
I half agree...It is a piano concerto...so they follow him...but then again you do have a point that he needs to know he cannot control a whole orchestra alone
It's a wealthy area, wealthy areas tend to have superb music communities. It's usually similar in Japan. I used to live in rheinland pfalz area of Germany and it was pretty rural, over an hour from frankfurt, where are you at?
oh and I was born and grew up about 3 and a half hours away Santa Monica. The Folsom area of Sacramento too has a rich music community, they host a jazz festival every year
I played this piece when I was 15 back in 1978 when Shostakovich was still kind of in. You've got to practice slowly with a metronome or count out loud until the music is steady. You are way ahead of the orchestra and the conductor did a good job of changing tempos to match. This piece should be played at a steady tempo and your opening tempo is nice and brisk. Listen to the Andre Previn recording in the early 1960s. Previn was an exceptionally gifted pianist too.
I love this piece. I liked many parts of this performance. However, his hands look terrible on the parallel octaves. He needs to correct that or he'll have tendonitis in no time.
beacuse they live there, are raised there and most inmportant get the melody in the language which every european language has they develop a different type of musical understanding...
i´m not jealous... that is fact.... asian people ar as good at playing western as we are good at playing eastern, namely not good at all... and is beacause of our cultural and language differences.. the few asian people who has the real understanding and feeling for how western music "should" be played i those who has been raised here in europe or in the south and (more likely) north america and of course australia and new zeeland... continues...
i say one thing... asian people are really good at techinque but when it comes to the music they will never deliver a good musical experience for the public...
i wouldn't say never, but proabaly less frequently, simply because it's not a musical culture they grow up with. Now. look up Louis Schwitzgebel-Wang. He's a pianist from Geneva, Switzerland with a japanese or chinese mother (can't remeber which), whose technique is faultless but who also understands what he's playing. Enjoy.
The pianist is damned good, but part of an orchestra. On first perceiving the video, I thought that this was excellent for a high school orchestra, but then realized that the video focused solely on the pianist and in doing so possibly covered up the defects of the orchestra.
This is very nice played. It is a nice tempo. The orchestra and pianist is very skilled, and they know the piece. The only thing I think is bad, is that the pianist rushes after the long rests, and a few times were he has not had a long rest.
This is an awsome video, it is so nice to hear what my orchestra will be playing for the Spring Concert. Though the only thing I think should change is the clapping in the begining. It should be cut out. And I think the tempo is a bit fast (but then this is only the second version of this that I have been able to listen to. the one on Fantasia 2000 is slower).
the pianist is hauling ass! Just like Lang Lang - too busy showing off their ability to play a piece as fast as possible that they forget there is an orchestra behind them playing the same piece. must learn to play with the orchestra, but still very talented
Anyone nagging about the tempo being too fast: please stop it! This tempo is fine. Shostakovich himself played it in 6'30 (just watch?v=lTSr2oz15Xk), Hamelin takes 20 seconds extra. Who are you now to argue about *their* tempo?
Yes I know, music is about taste, but this argument works in both directions.
People aren't arguing that the tempo is too fast, exactly. One can play it as fast as they want, as long as it sounds good. However, this pianist, while technically gifted, rushes (which is different from playing fast) the tempo too much, and you can tell that the orchestra is constantly trying to catch up to him.
Now, that Lang Lang comment is a little harsh, hpbballer08.
I agree, it was WAY too fast (at least for my taste) and tempo maintenance was a little iffy. There were some tears between the piano and the orchestra, which didn't sound pleasant. And not enough shaping overall...there are some parts that really could have been played more musically.
Considering that this performer is professional and I am 15, I suppose that my performance won't be so terrible as you seem to think it may be. So keep watching.
you dont need to be a virtuoso to critique someone else. Everyone has a right to their own opinion even if its wrong, and this performance does infact have quite a few errors regarding tempo and musicality.
hi, i've been trying to get piano scores for this piece, but there isn't anywhere to buy them in my country, do you happen to have a scanned copy you could send me please?
your all wrong, he is not fast, you should hear what Shostakovich himself play this pieces,that is more even faster!>< actually, if we took the blance between Shostakovich and him ,that would be the perfect playing speed
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nice job, but the balance is bad...:O
WASSUPFOOISH 2 months ago
Fast, maybe, but this is a pretty incredible high school orchestra. Bravo!
espiegs103 2 months ago
fuck chinese!
mgokalparslan 4 months ago
THIS is a high school orchestra???? It's incredible!
TrelliaChan 5 months ago 3
i can tell the orchestra is a highschool orchestra(though they are way better than my old orch.) but t
here is always that one asian kid in every highschool who is freaking amazing. My school had one,,,she was the concertmaster,,,,played amazingly
pirategirl1492 10 months ago
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you are really good!
it is difficult to find this orchestra's score!
how did you find it? do you have it?
carolzm20 1 year ago
I'm doing this for my senior concerto!!!!!!!
nspire25 1 year ago
too fast
mariozex 1 year ago
high school orchestra? is this a joke? thats impossible, they sound so professional!
DJNotNais 1 year ago
I saw this live by a user called choen444. It was brilliant. Couldn't erase the smile from my face. The recording quality is bad, but try: ricardo acosta shostakovich. You'll find the concert, surely.
davidovich00 1 year ago
I hate to agree with someone who so poorly expresses himself (grammatically speaking), but I have to agree in meaning with sagax2005. The soloist did tend to rush. This piece for a less experienced musician is particularly hard due to its extended parallel motion octaves. The tendency is to over-exert the energy needed to play the passage and consequently rush.
PTDW10 1 year ago
You all are acting like any high school could just sit down and play a piano concerto. Concertos were written to challenge professional musicians and to allow them to show off there skills. For a high-schooler to be able to play this, well..... Could you play it in High School?
Nissim1795 1 year ago
@Nissim1795
Ask them again when they've graduated.
1712Overture 1 year ago
the soloist always sets the tempo. yes it kinda seemed like he rushed, but the orchestra follows the soloist. including the conductor.
emerald3113 1 year ago
this is so great, its another example of the old is still valuable to the young, great performances, SMHSSO rocks
123clanger 1 year ago
The conductor is called a conductor for a reason. He is in charge of the whole performance. The soloist is just the sole member of the orchestra playing the line. It is the conductor who keeps the music together. I have so much more to say, but i would tire myself out just to comment. Don't be fools who think the soloist decides the tempo.
sagax2005 1 year ago
Oh My Gosh! I really want to be able to play this concerto with an orchestra. However, you really made it pretty bad. From the start you were rushing, and this is not shostakovich. This is pure Ryan Lin with everyone trying to follow. There is extremely lack of feeling. This is so bland. I'm surprised the conductor could even bear to continue. Perhaps there was no other pianist.
sagax2005 1 year ago
@sagax2005 dude, you don't even play piano that well I bet, stop hating.
bazookars 1 year ago
@bazookars You dont have to play as well to critique. Look at the music critics.
sagax2005 1 year ago
@bazookars And you don't even know me how would you know if i even play piano? I really doubt i can play worse than him for that performance.
sagax2005 1 year ago
@sagax2005 Its hard playing that fast and he has no time to look at the composer. He's probably struggling to keep up. And anyway, he's a high schooler, so the fact that he can play this is impressive enough.
Nissim1795 1 year ago
From 4:33 to 4:40 he was on his own selfish-i-ignore-the-orchestra time. xDDD Besides the rush and sudden tempo changes, feels desperate. He could have been running all the piece but what about feeling? I feel that thing desperate like he wanted to finish to go bath or sumthin. Cristina Ortiz performance on youtube for this piece is the new standard, check it out... peace!
marvinracer88 2 years ago
To everyone that says he needs to pay more attention to the conductor:
When I played a concerto with the local orchestra, the conductor told me to completely ignore him. He told me that I was in charge. It's a piano concerto, so therefore, the pianist is in charge.
carlysmithson4eva 2 years ago
That was the conductor choosing to honor your tempos. The fact remains that it was not within your power to directly control the orchestra, it was within his. The orchestra has to go at the tempo of the conductor, not the soloist- it is the conductor's choice to try to follow the soloist or not. That puts the responsibility on the soloist either to try to listen to the orchestra, or to set tempos which the conductor can follow.
zagreen 2 years ago
this guy can't keep his tempo
EquisTox 2 years ago
Both the orchestra and the soloist far surpass high school level. As a high schooler working on this piece now, I have to commend them for ASTOUNDING skill- it's clear the orchestra director is great at teaching technicality, musicality and overall unity. However, it seems he has not taught the orchestra or the soloist who is really in charge- the conductor. Tempo changes are frequent (see 2:33 and 6:48), and from the beginning, it looks like they do not follow the stick.
zagreen 2 years ago
@zagreen I have to disagree- this is a concerto; the tempos are up to the soloist.
jacobflaschen 2 years ago
The soloist has no means of directly communicating with the orchestra. The conductor may choose to try to follow the soloist's tempo during performance, but the tempo the orchestra plays is the one set by the conductor.
I change my mind a little, though. It was the soloist's fault for making it hard for the conductor to follow his tempos. But if you watch the start, the conductor's stick technique is too flowy for this piece. That's why the orchestra falls behind- the beats are indefinite.
zagreen 2 years ago
@jacobflaschen In a concerto, the orchestra is equally as important as the soloist. And really? If they were up to the soloist, then the soloist would be conducting and playing. This isn't the case, so he still has to listen to orchestra and follow the conductor.
mario54671 1 year ago
I love this piece and I love it at a good clip. This kid is super -- and I'm uber impressed with the orchestra and maestro keeping up with him. OK he should be watching, but the joy of the piece is its pace. Wonderful job.
Gran419 2 years ago
this piece is is so sarcastic
BTWhq 2 years ago 2
Very selfish playing. He's ignoring the orchestra. Far too fast. Actually making me angry.
alphabetgreen1996 2 years ago 8
@alphabetgreen1996 I'd rather call it youthful playing, but very good. This young pianist will gain patience and control as he gets more seasoning. Hard to believe that's a high school orchestra. Their intonation and attack are uncommonly good for a high school. They do a very good job here.
Largo64 2 years ago
I half agree...It is a piano concerto...so they follow him...but then again you do have a point that he needs to know he cannot control a whole orchestra alone
bktrmbone90 2 years ago
@alphabetgreen1996 i can agree
WASSUPFOOISH 2 months ago
Good performance overall; dont see the poor tempo of the pianist some talk about so much;
Others disregard the poor sound quality, mistaking it with bad performance... :( (piano is to lowd, litle orchestra...)
Well, yes i agree, i understand you have a magnificent earing, but look more to the maestro ;)
Congrats
paulotav2 2 years ago
Orrible!!
sicko0011 2 years ago
ok, personally I think it's great playing but definetly look into that tempo, other than that it was nice nd vivid
Phersephoie 2 years ago
Wow, rushing and does not look at the conducter once.
jAcSToNeDjaK 2 years ago
He's rushing like crazy, this is crap.
smileonthetiles 2 years ago
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benino820 2 years ago
much better than my highschool orchestra haha
skryabyn 2 years ago
it really makes me upset when a pianist doesn't settle down on tempo.
yes, it's their time to shine, but really?
let's keep it together.
it partly is the orchestra's fault, but whatevs.
Great double reed players!!!! loved them.
aside from that earlier tempo mishap, the rest was great.
mangofreek 2 years ago
why does a highschool in usa have an orchestra? we dont even have one skilled violin player here in my school in germany
poepper 2 years ago
It's a wealthy area, wealthy areas tend to have superb music communities. It's usually similar in Japan. I used to live in rheinland pfalz area of Germany and it was pretty rural, over an hour from frankfurt, where are you at?
atrumdecretum 2 years ago
oh and I was born and grew up about 3 and a half hours away Santa Monica. The Folsom area of Sacramento too has a rich music community, they host a jazz festival every year
atrumdecretum 2 years ago
4:40 and onwards (the tutti chords) should've been legato.
T3RM1N83R 2 years ago
Very good though! Maybe a bit too fast at the end, but all around - good!
djordjen 2 years ago
could anybody send me the piano score for this?
bomberchicken 2 years ago
this concerto and the rachmaninov concerti are my favourite concerti
bomberchicken 2 years ago 2
I played this piece when I was 15 back in 1978 when Shostakovich was still kind of in. You've got to practice slowly with a metronome or count out loud until the music is steady. You are way ahead of the orchestra and the conductor did a good job of changing tempos to match. This piece should be played at a steady tempo and your opening tempo is nice and brisk. Listen to the Andre Previn recording in the early 1960s. Previn was an exceptionally gifted pianist too.
marcparella 3 years ago
wow,... i liked very much,..do you happen to have the piano scores, i would really much apreciate if you coud send me a copy
dosmildiez2010 3 years ago
Great clarity and tone, Ryan. No less expected from you. Are you rushing a bit much, though?
musicaldreamsabound 3 years ago
Great bassoonists.
ThaSchwab 3 years ago 2
It's quite rare for a high school orchestra =D
neoguy9090 3 years ago
Lol My high schools (William Mason High School Mason,OH) marching band performance this year is based off of this Concerto
Pufferfish911 3 years ago
that would be chamber orchestra, not symphony
hahaha1287 3 years ago
Russian soul on piano
Paboll 3 years ago
Love this concerto!
earthatic 3 years ago
Wow I would love to find a recording where the snare is actually on time and consistently clean... That would make me content...
MarimbaFire2007 3 years ago
AGREED.
joncoylemusic 3 years ago
Try finding a recording of the version Disney used in Fantasia 2000's : The Steadfast Tin Soldier.... you can look it up on youtube if you want (lol)
Pufferfish911 3 years ago
I love this piece. I liked many parts of this performance. However, his hands look terrible on the parallel octaves. He needs to correct that or he'll have tendonitis in no time.
jamie0168 3 years ago
You've got clarity and spunk! I like your interpretation of this work a lot!!! Bravissimo!!!
crazyovermozart 3 years ago 2
overall good performance ... a tad slow at times. Also intonation in the flutes & clarinets in the upper registers were a bit off.
contranimal 3 years ago
beacuse they live there, are raised there and most inmportant get the melody in the language which every european language has they develop a different type of musical understanding...
ivareriksson90 3 years ago
i´m not jealous... that is fact.... asian people ar as good at playing western as we are good at playing eastern, namely not good at all... and is beacause of our cultural and language differences.. the few asian people who has the real understanding and feeling for how western music "should" be played i those who has been raised here in europe or in the south and (more likely) north america and of course australia and new zeeland... continues...
ivareriksson90 3 years ago
bleah!!:)
biasekubiza 3 years ago
just look at him.... a robot..
ivareriksson90 3 years ago
Just look at you, jealous.
Anders039 3 years ago 9
i say one thing... asian people are really good at techinque but when it comes to the music they will never deliver a good musical experience for the public...
ivareriksson90 3 years ago
i wouldn't say never, but proabaly less frequently, simply because it's not a musical culture they grow up with. Now. look up Louis Schwitzgebel-Wang. He's a pianist from Geneva, Switzerland with a japanese or chinese mother (can't remeber which), whose technique is faultless but who also understands what he's playing. Enjoy.
didyce23 3 years ago
and actually.... i think his technique needs a little work. ambitious performance for a high school senior though.
boogersicecrm 3 years ago
This was really good!
can you guys comment on mine?
im played the same piece with orchestra..
modernman15 3 years ago
The pianist is damned good, but part of an orchestra. On first perceiving the video, I thought that this was excellent for a high school orchestra, but then realized that the video focused solely on the pianist and in doing so possibly covered up the defects of the orchestra.
cellocontour 3 years ago
It`s very good for a high school orchestra!
Vampirstone11 3 years ago 3
So, Samohi has a symphony orchestra! How many high schools can say that!? The tempo is fine and the whole performance awesome!! three thumbs up!
twmills777 3 years ago 3
This is very nice played. It is a nice tempo. The orchestra and pianist is very skilled, and they know the piece. The only thing I think is bad, is that the pianist rushes after the long rests, and a few times were he has not had a long rest.
aaaglenn 3 years ago
This is an awsome video, it is so nice to hear what my orchestra will be playing for the Spring Concert. Though the only thing I think should change is the clapping in the begining. It should be cut out. And I think the tempo is a bit fast (but then this is only the second version of this that I have been able to listen to. the one on Fantasia 2000 is slower).
blacktea13 3 years ago
That's a very very skilled high school orchestra.
And pianist too.
neoguy9090 3 years ago 2
umm.....ok you have to give credit for his playing ability but he needs to get his rhythm under control.
plushklush 3 years ago 4
the pianist is hauling ass! Just like Lang Lang - too busy showing off their ability to play a piece as fast as possible that they forget there is an orchestra behind them playing the same piece. must learn to play with the orchestra, but still very talented
hpbballer08 4 years ago 4
Anyone nagging about the tempo being too fast: please stop it! This tempo is fine. Shostakovich himself played it in 6'30 (just watch?v=lTSr2oz15Xk), Hamelin takes 20 seconds extra. Who are you now to argue about *their* tempo?
Yes I know, music is about taste, but this argument works in both directions.
tadaemdg 4 years ago 5
People aren't arguing that the tempo is too fast, exactly. One can play it as fast as they want, as long as it sounds good. However, this pianist, while technically gifted, rushes (which is different from playing fast) the tempo too much, and you can tell that the orchestra is constantly trying to catch up to him.
Now, that Lang Lang comment is a little harsh, hpbballer08.
h4x3dby1337 4 years ago 5
uhhh this guy apparently sucks
hugohua 4 years ago
the orchestra is too loud and the pianist will not stop rushing
LAis989 4 years ago
It was an awesome performance.
I think he needs to atleast look at the conductor~ =]
fullyfatty 4 years ago
A soloist only needs to look at the conductor during long periods of rest.
Usually the conductor should be listening to how the soloist plays the music.
neoguy9090 3 years ago
not true :D
ashaam 3 years ago
high school? are you telling me the orchestra and soloists are all high school students??
wow.
shawnwilso 4 years ago 14
I agree, it was WAY too fast (at least for my taste) and tempo maintenance was a little iffy. There were some tears between the piano and the orchestra, which didn't sound pleasant. And not enough shaping overall...there are some parts that really could have been played more musically.
benthedink8 4 years ago
Can you play this? If so put up or shut up!!
Let's see your offering on You-Tube
fsharpmajor 4 years ago
Considering that this performer is professional and I am 15, I suppose that my performance won't be so terrible as you seem to think it may be. So keep watching.
benthedink8 4 years ago
you dont need to be a virtuoso to critique someone else. Everyone has a right to their own opinion even if its wrong, and this performance does infact have quite a few errors regarding tempo and musicality.
DualThunder 4 years ago
I agree, its too fast, like F1 world championship ^^
stonedrider15 4 years ago
i'm learning this piece and it seems awesome :)
uo12345678910 4 years ago 2
THIS WAS BRILLIANT!!i heard this piece live just yesterday. this interpretation is by FAR better and so full of emotions!
johnbaptistlulu 4 years ago
i've played this one, its tough. especially the part at 3:33, it's really tricky.
it is a bit rushed though, but that is actually how shostakovich himself played it.
and also work on the ending, there are mistakes in 6:41-end. other than that it was a pretty good performance.
maxmetal1991 4 years ago
hi, i've been trying to get piano scores for this piece, but there isn't anywhere to buy them in my country, do you happen to have a scanned copy you could send me please?
luisefe50 2 years ago
good,but ,yes,far too fast !
chenluluck 4 years ago
Rushed...far too fast for my tastes, and your technique it would seem. Never sacrifice clarity and accuracy for speed. Nice cadenza however.
Watching your wrists during the octaves at measure 88. You look painfully tense.
Solid performance overall. Pity we couldn't heart the rest.
Yourenigma 4 years ago
I love the interpretation of pianist in this music !!!
darktv 4 years ago
Snare should anticipate more and be ahead of the beat and not behind. Also try not too rush through the piece but cool performance!
bridgetchang 4 years ago 2