I remember biding on a property against this man... he took the property for 20 thousand less and he's lucky I didn't charge him and his agent with fraud. George is a liar... he doesn't care about anyone but himself. F him!
The immigrant vote put Ford in office simply because they did not want a homosexual mayor who represents another man as his 'husband,' even kissing him on TV with their adopted child in the middle. One wonders how the self-hating white liberals feel now after having spent decades embracing 'diversity,' and worshipping the false gods of multiculturalism and political correctness. The immigrants have shown what they are willing - and unwilling to tolerate. And homosexuality is not one of them.
I woke up monday morning and reflected on the crook smitherman being involved in the $1b ehealth scandal, the $1b long gun registry waste of time, and voted himself a $35k payraise in the middle of the worst recession in decades...so I didn't vote for his ass.
Oh, unbelievable! Smitherman wants us to wake up in the morning and "reflect" on multiculturalism. I'd rather wake up in the morning and reflect on how good and solid our economy is with no corrupt politicians or heavy taxation to pay for rainbow schemes and unicorns...
Multiculturalism is a failure, and even Germany's leader has said so publicly recently. So has Ujjal Dosanjh, B.C. politician, even though he benefitted from the Multi-Cult himself. Multicultural countries always fail and disappear: the Roman Empire, Yugoslavia, the Austro-Hungarian Empire, they all die. I want to avoid a tombstone for Canada as well. We need one strong central culture that does not brook any deviant cultures with their problems.
If Toronto votes for this guy, they will certainly get what they deserve.....more wasted taxpayers dollars!!! Good riddance to Miller and MILLER LIKE_ SMITHERMAN!!!
This is what Smitherman and the Liberals are about. Smoke and mirrors...confuse the public, in this case, about issues that are totally out of control of city council (it's a Fed matter) and let's not actually talk issues that actually part of city council's responsibilty. Why, because Smitherman has no real campaign, other than to say... Ford is worse...quite the platform ... Smitherman squandered a BILLION not million, of our hard earned money and it's amazing anyone would vote for this idiot
Can you tell that he is actually Bull Shitting because is speech in the beginning is stop and stutter.. His aim is to make Rob Ford look like a bad a guy. Smitherman should walk away and leave us alone. On election day - vote ROB FORD the peoples mayor.
Nice Job Smitherman trying to make Rob Ford look bad because you are too dumb to understand what he was trying to imply. He was implying that the city should take care of the 2.5 million ppl it already hosts before it tends to an excess million it cannot support. But hey if you wanna rip on someone you should rip on yourself for wasting one billion of "our" money on e-health. ROB FORD FOR MAYOR!!!!!!!!!!!
Rob Fords '' values '' are people who already live in the city and need assistance....how are we supposed to be paying for immigrants with a massive debt on our hands.
Is there anyone here reading this who "awakes every morning and reflect on the things that we have in common with our neighbors"? I don't think even dipshit sensitivity counselors think about that when they get out of bed. When I awake in the morning I usually reflect on my bladder and the need to drain it, and I probably have that in common with my neighbors!
smitherman's brother knows a lot more about smitherman than WE will ever know and he does NOT trust smitherman. smitherman's Own Brother backs ROB FORD for Mayor...
smitherman started an anyone but ford campaign as soon as smitherman saw that the people wanted Rob Ford and not smitherman. mayor Millar also Didn't Care what the people wanted. Down with Arrogant Self Serving Mayors.
@USraeliTerror Well, I suppose it's easy to generalize people and say that all Jews are the same, all Jews are zionists, all Jews support Israel. But I suppose it's easy to be a moron as well.
We're talking about Toronto, not Israel. Take your meds, and then find an appropriate forum for your bull shit.
@USraeliTerror What a terrible analogy. Don't you see different breeds of dogs mating? What about cats? What about thousands of other different kinds of animals that mate with different breeds within their own species? Sure, dogs and cats don't mate with each other, but they mate with their different breeds. In fact, it is better for them to mate with different breeds because it makes them less prone to disease and physical disability.
@PoliticsStudent wow for a Politics Student you really present weak arguments - USraeliTerror raises some valid points - whether I agree with them or not is irrelevant - however YOUR response is TAKE YOUR MEDS! Inspiring! Wasted youth in our educational systems these days lol
@PortugueseGina1 If by "valid points" you're referring to his blatant Antisemitism or his argument that human races shouldn't mix because frogs don't mate with scorpions, then I seriously question your judgment.
I told him to take his meds because clearly, given his username and the fact that all of his comments have nothing to do with the video, he is a troll and likely has some kind of mental or social problem that requires medication.
@TorontoHockeyLeafs This was my comment.... Rob Ford wants to take care of the people that already live here in Toronto. Smitherman has no clue what the fuck he is doing. I have not heard any intelligent ideas from Smitherman. And for Sarah Thomson for doing whats she did was absolutely pathetic droping out and supporting douchebag Smitherman. They just want to take out Rob Ford. All Smitherman can do is blow 1 billion dollars down the drain like he blows his boyfriends balls. VOTE FOR ROB FORD!
@Jaymeoshawa well if something that is immoral is wrong, then yea.......plus as a bottom he thinks its normal and enjoyable getting it up the ass, and tries to give it to the public that way in his role as a politician....
@TheTwistedGypsy well la dee da...do what you like, I could care less...but don't tell me I have to agree with it, or promote it,and if I wish to make an analogy connecting his sexual practices with his politics, I will, as I agree with neither.
WTF are you saying Smitherman...."we only survive as a City when we awake every morning and reflect on the things that we have in common with our neighbours"....HUH????? We have healthcare in common as neighbours...how many times did you stop and think about 1 billion when you were on a spending spree?? COME ON TORONTO!!! WAKE THE F#%@ UP!!!!!!!!
This is why you should consider yourself lucky for not having been involved with " Club Drugs. " Would you listen to what those drugs do to your brain.
I don't live in the city of Toronto but I will just say that it would be nothing but criminal if Rob Ford was not elected mayor. Smitherman, Giambrone, Pantalone, Miller and the weasel McGuinty have done enough damage to the city of Toronto and the Province of Ontario. I read the comment of Rob Ford and there was nothing rascist about it. Shame on Smitherman and Rossi for playing the race card. The New World Order is emerging!!! Socialism/Communism is dead!
Desperation grips the campaign of George Smitherman. As Minister of Health, he raised health taxes/eye exams right out of our pocket. He's a slimeball like Dalton "Read My Lips no New Taxes" McGuinty. Rob Ford has united the working people who see Toronto crumbling to minority groups. Smitherman stop trying to dumb down the electorate in case you missed it while arrogantly doing you're political grandstanding, citizens of Toronto are pissed with the likes of politicians like you.
@breakerexpress The entire country's been crumbling to minority groups ever since the Trudeau government. That's why the working class now has elected a Conservative government at the federal level and many right-wing and center-right provincial governments that will hopefully rid us of socialists, feminists, multiculturalists and gay rights activists who have been sucking the blood right of our government and nation for decades now !
Mr. Smitherman, seriously give it up! You're a crook and a liar....1 billion dollars unaccounted for! Do you know how much money that is??? AND to boot, you're expecting the taxpayer to vote for you!!!! That's the amusing part!
@TML1335 really? you disagree with myself and the majority of other Torontians...hey so if he's not lying, would you mind telling me what happened to the 1 billion dollars? and while you're at it, tell me specifically about YOUR portion of the money AND MINE!
@Ms12Italia - You are the liar. $1 billion is accounted for. It just wasn't spent as well as it should have been. That a big difference. But I'm sure it's lost on you. Do you know what an audit is? Your willful ignorance will be the end of us all.
@verstwo2 wow "it just wasn't spent as well as it should have been"....that makes me feel so much better! What's the difference?
Perhaps the better question is do you know what an audit is. I do. I'm actually a Chartered Accountant, do you know what that is? You're an idiot at best!
@Ms12Italia - Yes, my wife is a CA also. So you do know the difference between 'unaccounted for' and 'accounted for but misspent' and just decided to be intellectually dishonest? Furthermore, there was nothing criminal about it and Smitherman has never lied about it. Why you have decided to lie about this is beyond me, but it's very ironic. I'm just sick of this hyperbolic rhetoric, and wish people would just be reasonable and honest (yes, even about their faults).
@verstwo2 Misspent? A fraudster misspends money as well - diverts company funds for his/her personal gain. Does that make Mr. Smitherman any different? There's nothing intellectually dishonest about my statement. $1 billion wasted / misappropriated / misallocated, whichever way you'd like to call it, it's $1 billion of our money which was swept away in the hands of Mr. George. As an accountant, I need someone with a bit more fiscal responsibility and he's definitely not the man for that.
@Ms12Italia - "A fraudster misspends money as well - diverts company funds for his/her personal gain. "- do you have evidence that Smitherman gain personally from this? Because if you do you should forward it to the police. If not, you should stop making slanderous accusations that you cannot support with evidence. That is if you care about your own intellectual integrity at all. I notice that you no longer claim the money is 'unaccounted for'.
@verstwo2 smitherman gave a 30 million dollar untendered contract to IBM. i wasnt there but im sure there was a bribe involved. if hes working for the people why wouldnt he put it up for tender? is it wrong nowadays to save money?
@Ms12Italia - If you are an accountant as you claim, maybe you should audit the campaign promises of our next mayor Mr. Ford. It leaves the city $100 millions in the red. But that's ok as long as we can keep hurling hyperbolic rhetoric around. Crooks! Liars! Doesn't that make us feel better. Why even bother critically analyzing the candidates platforms.
@verstwo2 I didn't realize this was a battle of words...perhaps we should be in a court of law interrogating one another on words. As well, I never made any arguments in support of Rob Ford. I simply stated we needed someone with a bit more fiscal responsibility and I didn't deem him fit for that position. Someone who's mismanaged funds , willingly or not, $1billion to boot, shouldn't be in any mayoral position. Period.
@Ms12Italia - I'm simply pointing out the gross exaggeration of your claim. You are entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts. Calling him a "crook and a lair" is factually incorrect. And if we don't bother to adhere to the facts..we're in a sorry state indeed.
@verstwo2 really, what is your point? Irrespective of whether you agree with her claim, it's her opinion. I don't believe she's trying to make factual claims here. You are obviously a Smitherman fan and like him, you're focussing on how he did little wrong as opposed to what he actually failed to do.
@1Torlaw - I made my point several times. Calling someone a "crook and a liar' is not a matter of opinion, it is a matter of fact. And in this case it is factually incorrect or in other words - it's a lie. IT plain and simple, why is it so hard to understand? I'm not a fan of Smitherman in particular...I'm a fan of honesty. And the dishonesty here has forced me to defend him.
@verstwo2 crook and a liar are a matter of opinion-no? fact: I'm wearing a red shirt - opinion: the shirt is ugly.My opinion of him of a crook and a liar stand true - reaffirmed this at the York University debate I personally attended where he did NOTHING to support/explain his own platform except attack those of Rob Ford and Pantalone.
@verstwo2 I will continue to label him as a crook and a liar as he fails to accept his failures as the health minister reverting back to his "large budget, many positive changes" comments. If one fails to accept failures especially at the political level where tax dollars are a stake is nothing but a crook and / or liar in my opinion.
@1Torlaw - I've heard him admit the failure of Ehealth a few times. You need some new talking points. These are getting old. I'm no huge fan of Smiterman, but compared to Ford he looks good.
@verstwo2 sorry bud, 1 billion is not something we should be overlooking....I'm not closing a blind eye to that. 1 billion is the tip of the iceberg.....
@Ms12Italia Actually, the billion dollars spent on eHealth are paying off. Next year, the savings will have covered the expense, and after that, close to half a billion dollars a year are saved at no additional cost. It was a one-time fee to improve the system dramatically.
@PortugueseGina1 Straight up... he is the only genuine person in this race...all the other candidates are acting like typical politicians with this type of demagoguery. As an ethnic minority I don't see Rob's views as racist at all, but fake politicians like this guy are putting words in his mouth. This idiot thinks that minorities are gonna jump on the bandwagon simply b/c they label Rob as a "racist"! He is racist for even thinking that minorities would fall for that bull.
I support Rob Fords comments!!! Lets worry about existing Torontonians...listen to yourself....going on about values @ :32 ->1:57 you sound like a moron. Toronto needs to reign in the deficit and start bettering itself sustainably. Its about time Toronto checks the open door policy. We cant even move our own traffic, and people. Subway sucks!!! How is getting real about the facts anti toronto? Way to play on his words like the rest of the Vultures tho.
Loser. Sour grapes?
ericclaptonismygod31 1 month ago
Hope you run again George :)
AtharK21 6 months ago
You may like Smitherman, but he pegs Ford right to a "T". Ford is a goof!
crazinesslives 7 months ago
I remember biding on a property against this man... he took the property for 20 thousand less and he's lucky I didn't charge him and his agent with fraud. George is a liar... he doesn't care about anyone but himself. F him!
davejsmith 9 months ago
The immigrant vote put Ford in office simply because they did not want a homosexual mayor who represents another man as his 'husband,' even kissing him on TV with their adopted child in the middle. One wonders how the self-hating white liberals feel now after having spent decades embracing 'diversity,' and worshipping the false gods of multiculturalism and political correctness. The immigrants have shown what they are willing - and unwilling to tolerate. And homosexuality is not one of them.
bgibb101 10 months ago
@bgibb101 - very well put.
asiantrolls 7 months ago
that faggot doesn't shut his ass and dick trap mouth, does he??
winjasonwin 1 year ago
@winjasonwin ... LOL
asiantrolls 7 months ago
smitherman is an asshole!
winjasonwin 1 year ago
I guess his mouth smells like ass... lol. What speaking the truth!
Jababer9 1 year ago
George is a douche. He doesn't even pronounce "Toronto" like a Toronto native does.
jonzoid99 1 year ago
Look at how stupid that peice of crap is. Hes a peice of garbage.
jonny366 1 year ago
blah blah blah...you lost Smitherman liar
igreens1 1 year ago 4
I woke up monday morning and reflected on the crook smitherman being involved in the $1b ehealth scandal, the $1b long gun registry waste of time, and voted himself a $35k payraise in the middle of the worst recession in decades...so I didn't vote for his ass.
z0neseek 1 year ago
@danny12315 and what's your point? So he squandered 500 million then?
1Torlaw 1 year ago
in hate rob ford that red neck!
nasrarules 1 year ago
Hey George, How about an 8ball and a $100 bill. let's party like the old days
emcga150 1 year ago
Oh, unbelievable! Smitherman wants us to wake up in the morning and "reflect" on multiculturalism. I'd rather wake up in the morning and reflect on how good and solid our economy is with no corrupt politicians or heavy taxation to pay for rainbow schemes and unicorns...
Dracopol 1 year ago
Multiculturalism is a failure, and even Germany's leader has said so publicly recently. So has Ujjal Dosanjh, B.C. politician, even though he benefitted from the Multi-Cult himself. Multicultural countries always fail and disappear: the Roman Empire, Yugoslavia, the Austro-Hungarian Empire, they all die. I want to avoid a tombstone for Canada as well. We need one strong central culture that does not brook any deviant cultures with their problems.
Dracopol 1 year ago
If Toronto votes for this guy, they will certainly get what they deserve.....more wasted taxpayers dollars!!! Good riddance to Miller and MILLER LIKE_ SMITHERMAN!!!
TheFIGHTFORRIGHTS 1 year ago
This is what Smitherman and the Liberals are about. Smoke and mirrors...confuse the public, in this case, about issues that are totally out of control of city council (it's a Fed matter) and let's not actually talk issues that actually part of city council's responsibilty. Why, because Smitherman has no real campaign, other than to say... Ford is worse...quite the platform ... Smitherman squandered a BILLION not million, of our hard earned money and it's amazing anyone would vote for this idiot
TheFIGHTFORRIGHTS 1 year ago
rob ford is a dumbass
quickstrike93 1 year ago
Can you tell that he is actually Bull Shitting because is speech in the beginning is stop and stutter.. His aim is to make Rob Ford look like a bad a guy. Smitherman should walk away and leave us alone. On election day - vote ROB FORD the peoples mayor.
darkoanton5 1 year ago
Nice Job Smitherman trying to make Rob Ford look bad because you are too dumb to understand what he was trying to imply. He was implying that the city should take care of the 2.5 million ppl it already hosts before it tends to an excess million it cannot support. But hey if you wanna rip on someone you should rip on yourself for wasting one billion of "our" money on e-health. ROB FORD FOR MAYOR!!!!!!!!!!!
d1mpl3z121 1 year ago
Rob Fords '' values '' are people who already live in the city and need assistance....how are we supposed to be paying for immigrants with a massive debt on our hands.
albinocarl 1 year ago 2
I'm so sick of hearing smitherman slamming his opponent.
We do not need a mayor who tears other people down.
We need a mayor who stands up for his own views.
Rob Ford is a stand up guy and he will stand up for Us.
krkr40 1 year ago 2
Is there anyone here reading this who "awakes every morning and reflect on the things that we have in common with our neighbors"? I don't think even dipshit sensitivity counselors think about that when they get out of bed. When I awake in the morning I usually reflect on my bladder and the need to drain it, and I probably have that in common with my neighbors!
ignoblius 1 year ago
@ignoblius Smitherman talks out of his rear....useless man who's sole-sourced contracts and squandered 1 BILLION in e-health!
1Torlaw 1 year ago 2
@1Torlaw no actually smitherman takes it up the rear
slowtoyotaecho 1 year ago
Diversity is a false god.
ignoblius 1 year ago
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smitherman's brother knows a lot more about smitherman than WE will ever know and he does NOT trust smitherman. smitherman's Own Brother backs ROB FORD for Mayor...
krkr40 1 year ago
smitherman started an anyone but ford campaign as soon as smitherman saw that the people wanted Rob Ford and not smitherman. mayor Millar also Didn't Care what the people wanted. Down with Arrogant Self Serving Mayors.
Up with ROB FORD for Mayor !!
krkr40 1 year ago
really really- diversity divERsity DIversity diverSITY
Diversity is always okay when it's gay, black, mexican, junkie etc.. anything but white traditional
I live in the US and have loosely followed this race. I hope for Ford to smoke this loser in the election.
newworldorderly 1 year ago 3
@USraeliTerror Your attempts to hijack this discussion are fruitless. We're talking about Toronto. I don't give a shit about Israel.
Thanks for coming out. Remember, take your meds!
PoliticsStudent 1 year ago
@USraeliTerror Well, I suppose it's easy to generalize people and say that all Jews are the same, all Jews are zionists, all Jews support Israel. But I suppose it's easy to be a moron as well.
We're talking about Toronto, not Israel. Take your meds, and then find an appropriate forum for your bull shit.
PoliticsStudent 1 year ago
@USraeliTerror What a terrible analogy. Don't you see different breeds of dogs mating? What about cats? What about thousands of other different kinds of animals that mate with different breeds within their own species? Sure, dogs and cats don't mate with each other, but they mate with their different breeds. In fact, it is better for them to mate with different breeds because it makes them less prone to disease and physical disability.
Take your meds please.
PoliticsStudent 1 year ago
@PoliticsStudent wow for a Politics Student you really present weak arguments - USraeliTerror raises some valid points - whether I agree with them or not is irrelevant - however YOUR response is TAKE YOUR MEDS! Inspiring! Wasted youth in our educational systems these days lol
PortugueseGina1 1 year ago
@PortugueseGina1 If by "valid points" you're referring to his blatant Antisemitism or his argument that human races shouldn't mix because frogs don't mate with scorpions, then I seriously question your judgment.
I told him to take his meds because clearly, given his username and the fact that all of his comments have nothing to do with the video, he is a troll and likely has some kind of mental or social problem that requires medication.
PoliticsStudent 1 year ago
@USraeliTerror What a narrow perspective you have. Did you forget to take your meds today?
PoliticsStudent 1 year ago
This clown sounds the same as all other politicians.
darrenroskam 1 year ago
Nice ..... playin the race card .
hanksnow82 1 year ago
For a media scrum, this was a pretty good speech. Kind of fluffy, but somewhat inspiring. Makes me feel good about living in a multicultural society.
PoliticsStudent 1 year ago
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TorontoHockeyLeafs 1 year ago 20
@TorontoHockeyLeafs This was my comment.... Rob Ford wants to take care of the people that already live here in Toronto. Smitherman has no clue what the fuck he is doing. I have not heard any intelligent ideas from Smitherman. And for Sarah Thomson for doing whats she did was absolutely pathetic droping out and supporting douchebag Smitherman. They just want to take out Rob Ford. All Smitherman can do is blow 1 billion dollars down the drain like he blows his boyfriends balls. VOTE FOR ROB FORD!
TORONTOLEAFSHOCKEY28 1 year ago 10
@TORONTOLEAFSHOCKEY28 well said my friend...hahaha well said
Kingblueman13 1 year ago
Smitherman you communist dictating samming faggit nobody likes you.
toronto647 1 year ago
Why the hell is diversity a strength?? Someone please explain this to me! It's madness.
Decimator334 1 year ago
@TheTwistedGypsy YA SO?
What does that have to do with anything
Is it wrong to be gay ? Is that what you are saying ?
Jaymeoshawa 1 year ago
@Jaymeoshawa well if something that is immoral is wrong, then yea.......plus as a bottom he thinks its normal and enjoyable getting it up the ass, and tries to give it to the public that way in his role as a politician....
TheTwistedGypsy 1 year ago
@TheTwistedGypsy
These maybe your morals and your opinions and you are entitled to them
Have a nice Day
Jayme
Proud Gay Man
Jaymeoshawa 1 year ago
@Jaymeoshawa yes they are....as they are of many.....
You Have A Nice Day Also.
Jim
Proud Normal Man
TheTwistedGypsy 1 year ago
@TheTwistedGypsy
Hate to inform you I am very much "Normal" being Gay
Welcome to Canada where we respect one another and have human rights
Sexual Orientation happens to be one of them
Jaymeoshawa 1 year ago
@TheTwistedGypsy well la dee da...do what you like, I could care less...but don't tell me I have to agree with it, or promote it,and if I wish to make an analogy connecting his sexual practices with his politics, I will, as I agree with neither.
TheTwistedGypsy 1 year ago
WTF are you saying Smitherman...."we only survive as a City when we awake every morning and reflect on the things that we have in common with our neighbours"....HUH????? We have healthcare in common as neighbours...how many times did you stop and think about 1 billion when you were on a spending spree?? COME ON TORONTO!!! WAKE THE F#%@ UP!!!!!!!!
Ms12Italia 1 year ago
why is he running? he should be in jail!
1Torlaw 1 year ago
@TheTwistedGypsy Yeah...he's a battyman!
KardiFan2000 1 year ago
This is why you should consider yourself lucky for not having been involved with " Club Drugs. " Would you listen to what those drugs do to your brain.
warmflash 1 year ago
I guess George didn't hear that most people agree with Rob on his immigration remarks.
cne08 1 year ago
what a joke....
GO FORD!!!!!
Donninator1 1 year ago
I don't live in the city of Toronto but I will just say that it would be nothing but criminal if Rob Ford was not elected mayor. Smitherman, Giambrone, Pantalone, Miller and the weasel McGuinty have done enough damage to the city of Toronto and the Province of Ontario. I read the comment of Rob Ford and there was nothing rascist about it. Shame on Smitherman and Rossi for playing the race card. The New World Order is emerging!!! Socialism/Communism is dead!
sublimepriest 1 year ago 3
you have my vote, george.
captainkellyskitchen 1 year ago
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how can we support someone who can't account for 1 billion at ehealth?
Rob Ford all the way!
classicNHLfights 1 year ago
ROB FORD FOR MAYOR !!!!!
dawgawful 1 year ago 4
Desperation grips the campaign of George Smitherman. As Minister of Health, he raised health taxes/eye exams right out of our pocket. He's a slimeball like Dalton "Read My Lips no New Taxes" McGuinty. Rob Ford has united the working people who see Toronto crumbling to minority groups. Smitherman stop trying to dumb down the electorate in case you missed it while arrogantly doing you're political grandstanding, citizens of Toronto are pissed with the likes of politicians like you.
breakerexpress 1 year ago 30
@breakerexpress The entire country's been crumbling to minority groups ever since the Trudeau government. That's why the working class now has elected a Conservative government at the federal level and many right-wing and center-right provincial governments that will hopefully rid us of socialists, feminists, multiculturalists and gay rights activists who have been sucking the blood right of our government and nation for decades now !
SickerThanThou 10 months ago
Mr. Smitherman, seriously give it up! You're a crook and a liar....1 billion dollars unaccounted for! Do you know how much money that is??? AND to boot, you're expecting the taxpayer to vote for you!!!! That's the amusing part!
Ms12Italia 1 year ago 18
@Ms12Italia Rob Ford is a crook and hes a liar NOT Smitherman
TML1335 1 year ago 2
@TML1335 really? you disagree with myself and the majority of other Torontians...hey so if he's not lying, would you mind telling me what happened to the 1 billion dollars? and while you're at it, tell me specifically about YOUR portion of the money AND MINE!
Ms12Italia 1 year ago
@Ms12Italia - You are the liar. $1 billion is accounted for. It just wasn't spent as well as it should have been. That a big difference. But I'm sure it's lost on you. Do you know what an audit is? Your willful ignorance will be the end of us all.
verstwo2 1 year ago
@verstwo2 wow "it just wasn't spent as well as it should have been"....that makes me feel so much better! What's the difference?
Perhaps the better question is do you know what an audit is. I do. I'm actually a Chartered Accountant, do you know what that is? You're an idiot at best!
Ms12Italia 1 year ago
@Ms12Italia - Yes, my wife is a CA also. So you do know the difference between 'unaccounted for' and 'accounted for but misspent' and just decided to be intellectually dishonest? Furthermore, there was nothing criminal about it and Smitherman has never lied about it. Why you have decided to lie about this is beyond me, but it's very ironic. I'm just sick of this hyperbolic rhetoric, and wish people would just be reasonable and honest (yes, even about their faults).
verstwo2 1 year ago
@verstwo2 Misspent? A fraudster misspends money as well - diverts company funds for his/her personal gain. Does that make Mr. Smitherman any different? There's nothing intellectually dishonest about my statement. $1 billion wasted / misappropriated / misallocated, whichever way you'd like to call it, it's $1 billion of our money which was swept away in the hands of Mr. George. As an accountant, I need someone with a bit more fiscal responsibility and he's definitely not the man for that.
Ms12Italia 1 year ago 2
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@Ms12Italia - "A fraudster misspends money as well - diverts company funds for his/her personal gain. "- do you have evidence that Smitherman gain personally from this? Because if you do you should forward it to the police. If not, you should stop making slanderous accusations that you cannot support with evidence. That is if you care about your own intellectual integrity at all. I notice that you no longer claim the money is 'unaccounted for'.
verstwo2 1 year ago
@verstwo2 smitherman gave a 30 million dollar untendered contract to IBM. i wasnt there but im sure there was a bribe involved. if hes working for the people why wouldnt he put it up for tender? is it wrong nowadays to save money?
slowtoyotaecho 1 year ago
@Ms12Italia - If you are an accountant as you claim, maybe you should audit the campaign promises of our next mayor Mr. Ford. It leaves the city $100 millions in the red. But that's ok as long as we can keep hurling hyperbolic rhetoric around. Crooks! Liars! Doesn't that make us feel better. Why even bother critically analyzing the candidates platforms.
verstwo2 1 year ago
@verstwo2 I didn't realize this was a battle of words...perhaps we should be in a court of law interrogating one another on words. As well, I never made any arguments in support of Rob Ford. I simply stated we needed someone with a bit more fiscal responsibility and I didn't deem him fit for that position. Someone who's mismanaged funds , willingly or not, $1billion to boot, shouldn't be in any mayoral position. Period.
Ms12Italia 1 year ago
@Ms12Italia - I'm simply pointing out the gross exaggeration of your claim. You are entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts. Calling him a "crook and a lair" is factually incorrect. And if we don't bother to adhere to the facts..we're in a sorry state indeed.
verstwo2 1 year ago
@verstwo2 really, what is your point? Irrespective of whether you agree with her claim, it's her opinion. I don't believe she's trying to make factual claims here. You are obviously a Smitherman fan and like him, you're focussing on how he did little wrong as opposed to what he actually failed to do.
1Torlaw 1 year ago
@1Torlaw - I made my point several times. Calling someone a "crook and a liar' is not a matter of opinion, it is a matter of fact. And in this case it is factually incorrect or in other words - it's a lie. IT plain and simple, why is it so hard to understand? I'm not a fan of Smitherman in particular...I'm a fan of honesty. And the dishonesty here has forced me to defend him.
verstwo2 1 year ago
@verstwo2 crook and a liar are a matter of opinion-no? fact: I'm wearing a red shirt - opinion: the shirt is ugly.My opinion of him of a crook and a liar stand true - reaffirmed this at the York University debate I personally attended where he did NOTHING to support/explain his own platform except attack those of Rob Ford and Pantalone.
1Torlaw 1 year ago 3
@verstwo2 I will continue to label him as a crook and a liar as he fails to accept his failures as the health minister reverting back to his "large budget, many positive changes" comments. If one fails to accept failures especially at the political level where tax dollars are a stake is nothing but a crook and / or liar in my opinion.
1Torlaw 1 year ago 3
@1Torlaw - I've heard him admit the failure of Ehealth a few times. You need some new talking points. These are getting old. I'm no huge fan of Smiterman, but compared to Ford he looks good.
verstwo2 1 year ago
@verstwo2 sorry bud, 1 billion is not something we should be overlooking....I'm not closing a blind eye to that. 1 billion is the tip of the iceberg.....
1Torlaw 1 year ago
@Ms12Italia Actually, the billion dollars spent on eHealth are paying off. Next year, the savings will have covered the expense, and after that, close to half a billion dollars a year are saved at no additional cost. It was a one-time fee to improve the system dramatically.
differently 1 year ago
@differently HAHA is that a joke?
PortugueseGina1 1 year ago
@Ms12Italia
He was involved, but he's not solely responsible for that money.
He was there for about 400 mil of it. Other people bungled it up for the other 600 million.
Lightworker444 1 year ago
Rob Ford is 100% correct - let's get our own house in order...
Mr. Smitherman, why don't we take the money you screwed us on at e-Health to solve our fiscal problems? what a clown! get real!
PortugueseGina1 1 year ago 9
@PortugueseGina1 Straight up... he is the only genuine person in this race...all the other candidates are acting like typical politicians with this type of demagoguery. As an ethnic minority I don't see Rob's views as racist at all, but fake politicians like this guy are putting words in his mouth. This idiot thinks that minorities are gonna jump on the bandwagon simply b/c they label Rob as a "racist"! He is racist for even thinking that minorities would fall for that bull.
Rob is a realist!
MrTrinidaddy1 1 year ago 9
I support Rob Fords comments!!! Lets worry about existing Torontonians...listen to yourself....going on about values @ :32 ->1:57 you sound like a moron. Toronto needs to reign in the deficit and start bettering itself sustainably. Its about time Toronto checks the open door policy. We cant even move our own traffic, and people. Subway sucks!!! How is getting real about the facts anti toronto? Way to play on his words like the rest of the Vultures tho.
MastodonDR 1 year ago 8
fords comments were correct!!!!!!!
gooshTO 1 year ago 8