I Need My Pain

[Kasmir145]

Star Trek is deep. Anyone who tells you otherwise doesn't know what they're talking about.

[EdwardNorth]

You know, I've thought about this a lot recently. It might sound far-fetched, to some it might sound stupid, but you know what? I really do NEED my pain. It really DOES make me who I am. If things hadn't happened the way they did, if she hadn't torn my life away from me and stole my family, I wouldn't be the strong, brave, incredible person I am today.

I NEED my pain!

[matzoball101]

@EdwardNorth

through pain we create bonds

you do not know a person until you know their pain

[uberfun19]

@EdwardNorth I'm proud of you Edward Northon! Carry on solider, carry on!

[kajehart]

This movie was seriously underrated. The plotline of this movie was brilliant. Sad that Shatner's budget (esp at the end of the movie) was low. Each man, Sybok and Kirk, were correct in their own convictions.

[GalvaWalken8]

Kirk's pain = the loss of David, no doubt

[nardigan]

Aye, been a Trek fan since '71 and this movie has indeed grown on me as time passes... Dammit Bones..! I NEED my pain..!!!

[twinpeninsulas]

this movie is like coldpizza, it gets better as time passes

[antihero276]

now compare this to Picard, who needed Q to explain for an entire episode that he needed to have made the choices that he did to be who he is xD.

[Chris82bc]

@antihero276 Bad comparison. Q is far more powerful than Sybok and offending Q will be useless. It is much more difficult to stand up to Q than it is to stand up to Sybok.

[antihero276]

@Chris82bc Just stating that both captains shared the same situation... and Picard was the kind of man who lived with regrets until Q taught him, and Kirk was the kind of man who acknowledged his pain, but needed to struggle on, to learn from it.

[Chris82bc]

@antihero276 In that episode Q claimed to be God himself. Sybok only claims to talk to God. Big difference. Of course Picard will have less confidence explaining his thoughts to who he thinks as "God."

[antihero276]

@Chris82bc I wasn't talking about the god thing, just about the difference in manner that Picard and Kirk carry, but yeah, I understand that

[Chris82bc]

@antihero276 Well think of it this way, you would react differently depending on whether a mortal asked you this or an all powerful being who can squash your nuts into oblivion.

[antihero276]

@Chris82bc you misunderstand the point I'm trying to make, but ok.

[JFMProducer]

My personal favorite of all Trek films BECAUSE of the intimate scenes of friendship shared by the greatest trio in narrative history.

[joeylodes]

Actually one of the best scenes in all of Trekdom. such a shame it was right in the middle of a not so good film

(ps … drop dead JJ)

[bt101776]

Brillant scene. I need my pain!.

[scuban1975]

By the way, do you know if the scene (with Bones and Spock being taken back) is available?

[scuban1975]

Thanks for posting this, SocraticBass. I shared it on my Facebook wall. It's my favorite part of the movie and I've seen this many times. It's inspirational and redeems the mediocre movie.

[DaseinFly]

This movie gets a bad wrap a lot of the time...and to be sure, the ending was confusing and dare I say it, illogical...but overall, quite interesting ideas, and good actors.

[User90663]

At this point in the movie, Kirk had been captured and locked up in the brig of his own hijacked ship. 'bout time he got angry! Shoulda opened a big 'ol can of whoop ass at that point.

[N324F]

Kirk is god

[SnarkLicker]

Ah, back when canon meant something.

Kirk needs his pain because he knows what kind of sniveling weener he is without it (The Enemy Within).

[mcdbrinegar]

MAN!!!! I believe we all need our pain... too many of us on happy pills... we just except EVERYTHING... 

[deezvids]

this installment of the Star Trek movie series SO got a bad rap... :-D

[tiemedown]

this reminds me of the scene where Spock erases Kirk's memory and we never see his reaction. I assume it was something like this

[Padarack1]

.. err that is I think it was (more profitable than 10/Nemesis)

[Padarack1]

Awesome movie - Was just some folks decided it was no good, because the critics told them it was no good ... and so they've stuck with that notion. Some SFX were not as good as in the previous one, and some of the 'funny' bits didn't work as well, as in IV .. but that's because the studio forced them to put humor into the movie; when it WASN'T a 'humor' story - it's a darker type story. It's about what happens to people who follow false ideas (it's the ultimate way to the end, for them)

[Bla31n]

I like Lawrence Luckinbill as Sybok. Now, sources have illustrated the unlikely casting of Sean Connery for the part, but I think an actor to play the part that is closer to the original Sybok, I would give to Max von Sydow. He was up for grabs, but the amount that he wanted would've brankrupt this movie completely. So they say.

[Padarack1]

@Bla31n Interesting, I did not know that ... Love this scene. It's everything that defines Kirk's character ... he's real! .. Love this movie, and 6

[Bla31n]

@Padarack1 I say that STAR TREK V was a successful disappointment.

[Padarack1]

@Bla31n - Ok ... To me successful because it was an overall great movie but disappointing because box office-wise it went pretty average; always disappointing to see something you like, a movie or a new music CD not do great. But saying a lot of people decided it was (probably) bad, before they went in to see it, because of how the critics got their knives out for it. And the main reason for THAT had nothing to do with the movie's flaws, it was because the movie made the point there is a God

[Bla31n]

@Padarack1 This movie doesn't come near as worse as some of the worst movies I have ever laid my eyes on, believe me. I hold Paramount responsible for not doing enough to accommodate Shatner the money he needed, and the time to film, what would have been a spectacle. The Writer's Strike harmed it and the TNG barely a year old at the time of its debut made it difficult. Harve Bennett described it as having too much of a Thanksgiving meal, and thus began the over saturation of the STAR TREK series

[Padarack1]

@Bla31n All true and good points. Really people all around the internet blogs need to calm down, about this movie, chastising it ... Personally I really liked VI, but this Star Trek movie DID turn a profit, for Paramount ... just not as big a one as the one before or the one after ... international box office was pretty good. And all in all was more profitable than the horrible Nemesis (which I thought was such a sad, and unbefitting way to end it)

[AmIBuggingYou]

SERIOUSLY, What a great movie. SirBroadsword is so gay. Can't you tell by his username? Seriously?

[MBoudet]

"mediocre movie"? GFY, Shatner is a freggin ICON. Die a horrible death, SirBroadsword

[BlackScorpionSkull]

Man fuck life and whatever spawned it.

[Treknologist]

This is the scene that saves the whole movie for me!

[HectorJW2007]

One of the finest moments in Star Trek, of Captain Kirk and in Shatner's acting career.

[sundance13uk]

It could've been a great movie if the budget had been up to matching the script, a script full of great quotes like this that really define the character of Kirk. A truly profound quote that anybody who's ever experienced sorrow or loss and grown stronger through it can relate to. Whenever I feel like events of the past are breaking me I remind myself of this. It's also worthy of note that Chris Pine plays Kirk wonderfully in the recent movie, a great film in its own right but he shines.

[trammel]

This is my favorite line too!

[TonyShow82]

If I was in the same situation like them 3, I can see it now. Sybok would've exposed my pain by bringing up my late girlfriend's tragic passing and that would've made things worse for me. So the way I see it, if doing that means to take away my pain, I wouldn't want my pain taken away either. And I wouldn't want it taken away anyway. For how that to be done I feel would make matters worse and it's bad enough I dream about her every night and forced to know as long as I live she's gone forever.

[neildamgaard]

This clip is profound. "I don't want my pain taken away; I need my pain." "It makes us who we are." - yes, Dave, you're right.

[Temiken]

" I need my pain " is a very underrated line of ANY movie. One without pain is one without joy.

[DavidJBuchner]

People mock this movie, but I swear. It's the source for more of my favorite Trek quotes than almost any other story.

[Charmolution]

@DavidJBuchner

WHAT DOES GOD NEED WITH A STARSHIP?

[uberfun19]

@DavidJBuchner I can feel your pain, it runs deep! Share it with me!

[rehd]

@DavidJBuchner One year ago you made a youtube comment that I would actually care enough to thank you for posting. Thank you. (This has never happened before.)

[SirBroadsword]

Heh, a great part of a generally mediocre movie... :)