Some people respect authority more than others, think a mix of genetic and imposed differences cause this. Irrational neural connections permenantly formed when your a kid; I think our more absurd adult rules (drugs, porn, homophobia, religious taboos, bad language, etc) are propagated this way and lead to people treating one another horrificly for crossing a line in the sand or other meaningless breaches. Respect is fear, and leads to other negative emotions.
brain is plastic to some extent, maybe with practice we could change the stuff from when we were kids? Every time we follow our subconscious we reinforce those connections keep resisting and maybe you'll rewire yourself? People are far less rational than we give ourselves credit. I come from a really socially conservative family, and my instinct is still there, while my mind is on the other side of the room, I suppose this is how previously really religious non-believers feel.
@unassumption we're talking about this kind of things in one of my classes. I have an essay on the psychology of morality soon and its evolution in society. It's really fascinating the feedback loops of it all.
Did you hear Jonathan Haidt's theory that there are five intuitions with separate evolutionary histories at the base of morality? Respect for authority was one, alongside reciprocal altruism, empathy, Ingroup loyalty, and purity. I hear he correlated how strong each of those was for different people with personality (which has genetic underpinnings) and politics too (republicans are more authority, loyalty and purity based). There's a TED talk with him on it if your interested.
Are you kidding me?! That is literally what I am reading right now! I am critiquing his work for our class and the whole subject for this week is critiquing his paradigm. I can't believe he is well known overseas/how amazing it is that you are pointing out what he is telling us. He's teaches at my school...a class similar to this. He's in the faculty and I thought it was just a UVa thing. I'm really impressed right now...
That coincidence winded me. Suppose his emphasis on the biological as opposed to the social is the biggest critique? Did he go in looking for those 5? There could be more drives i suppose. Think the general idea that morals begin with a limited number of emotions, and society shapes the variation (which emotions prosper and are common in it) and applies it but its the same emotions at the root in all, is right, though I haven't looked into this much, his stuff is basically all i seen
Some people respect authority more than others, think a mix of genetic and imposed differences cause this. Irrational neural connections permenantly formed when your a kid; I think our more absurd adult rules (drugs, porn, homophobia, religious taboos, bad language, etc) are propagated this way and lead to people treating one another horrificly for crossing a line in the sand or other meaningless breaches. Respect is fear, and leads to other negative emotions.
unassumption 11 months ago
@unassumption
brain is plastic to some extent, maybe with practice we could change the stuff from when we were kids? Every time we follow our subconscious we reinforce those connections keep resisting and maybe you'll rewire yourself? People are far less rational than we give ourselves credit. I come from a really socially conservative family, and my instinct is still there, while my mind is on the other side of the room, I suppose this is how previously really religious non-believers feel.
unassumption 11 months ago
@unassumption we're talking about this kind of things in one of my classes. I have an essay on the psychology of morality soon and its evolution in society. It's really fascinating the feedback loops of it all.
Devidicus 11 months ago
@Devidicus
Did you hear Jonathan Haidt's theory that there are five intuitions with separate evolutionary histories at the base of morality? Respect for authority was one, alongside reciprocal altruism, empathy, Ingroup loyalty, and purity. I hear he correlated how strong each of those was for different people with personality (which has genetic underpinnings) and politics too (republicans are more authority, loyalty and purity based). There's a TED talk with him on it if your interested.
unassumption 11 months ago
Are you kidding me?! That is literally what I am reading right now! I am critiquing his work for our class and the whole subject for this week is critiquing his paradigm. I can't believe he is well known overseas/how amazing it is that you are pointing out what he is telling us. He's teaches at my school...a class similar to this. He's in the faculty and I thought it was just a UVa thing. I'm really impressed right now...
Devidicus 11 months ago
@Devidicus
That coincidence winded me. Suppose his emphasis on the biological as opposed to the social is the biggest critique? Did he go in looking for those 5? There could be more drives i suppose. Think the general idea that morals begin with a limited number of emotions, and society shapes the variation (which emotions prosper and are common in it) and applies it but its the same emotions at the root in all, is right, though I haven't looked into this much, his stuff is basically all i seen
unassumption 11 months ago