Gay History Invisible to Mainstream America? - David Carter

[Supernova310]

Homosexuality has been shown to be a chemical fuckup in the brain when a fetus is being developed.... they are close to detecting it in fetuses so don't worry gay community you will die out when parents start aborting homo fetuses

[mblacky1983]

doesnt that prove that gays are naturally gay and therefore should be treated as any other human? fortunately the same genetic reasoning will much sooner erase intellectually inferior fetus' like you once were.

[Supernova310]

No you jack ass it proves that nature fucks up and does things at random lol...

[xxblodlustxx]

Nonsense. Being as homosexuality does not really diminish a human beings quality of life, aside from ignorant people and their awful harassment, I think that you are wrong. Nature is not random. Everything is the consequence of something else. Homosexuality has existed since the beginning of humanity. Why not let it be? And most of the people preaching against homosexuality happen to be the very same people protesting against abortion.

[Supernova310]

Who cares homos are going away lol

[xxblodlustxx]

You need to go away lol

[Supernova310]

Homos are still going away...

[Heyaitsjohn]

you wish :)

[Supernova310]

LOL i wish??? its reality.... i can give a fuck... I would abort a fag fetus in a heartbeat... I need my genes to continue

[Heyaitsjohn]

It's ignorant people like you who're going extinct. . . because the world needs your genes to STOP beng passed on :)

[Supernova310]

how about you say something thats true

[Heyaitsjohn]

That's the truth, right there. Deal with it or just ignore it. I don't care.

[bryanperf]

@ChannelAmsterdam : How about Alan Turing, the father of modern computer science, you intolerant bigot.

[TimotheosCauvin]

YouTube: "God gave them over"

watch?v=MwxokxpSdSo

[WellIAMScottish]

It's disappointing that David Carter was cut off for "lack of time". In the Roman era, long philosophical discussions were normal. Who decided that David Carter had only a short amount of time to speak? Is this cutting off of conversation healthy to humanity? I would have liked to listen to him for as long as he expressed himself. Time limits are human limits.

[WellIAMScottish]

White people didn't see the Black civil rights movement as a "civil rights movement" until they had hindsight after the change. I absolutely 150% support the gay rights movement but I want to caution against seeking legitimacy within the hetero world because that shouldn't be a foundation for your argument. The hetero world will understand what you are about when you can stand on your own two feet.

[MysticalMind]

FANTASTIC POINT!

GREAT POST!

[valu777]

The "studies thus far find that between 8 percent and 21 percent of homosexually parented children ultimately identify as non-heterosexual," the psychologist wrote. "For comparison purposes, approximately 2 percent of the general population are non-heterosexual. Therefore, if these percentages continue to hold true, children of homosexuals have a 4 to 10 times greater likelihood of developing a non-heterosexual preference than other children."

[dogseatsnakes]

valu777 it's possible but without verification it sounds like an urban legend.

I also suspect that christian parents are 10 time more likely to raise christian children than non christians. This is why christians shouldn't be allowed near kids.

[valu777]

There is a way that seems right to a person, but eventually it ends in death.

A heart that turns from God becomes bored with its own ways, but a good person is satisfied with God's ways.

Stubborn fools make fun of guilt, but there is forgiveness among decent people.

Jesus who is God said let the little children come to me !

[ZKoftherebellion]

God is a pedophile.

[MysticalMind]

You see, it is impossible to tell at the moment what the percentage of homosexuals is at the moment, as social attitudes towards them is still relatively intollerant.

Estimates are at 8% , actually its from 8 to 12%. So as you can see figures are very abstract at the moment.

Also you may want to read material that is not sponsored or in some way "propelled" by christian or any other religious organisation when it comes to sciences and human sexuality.

[FaithandReasons]

@MysticalMind

Estimates aren't around 8-12%. It's around 1.5-2%.

I see a lot of misinformation in these comments.

[GBS990]

It's called equal protection under the law.

Special laws for special people is what drives hatred towards protected groups.

[valu777]

"Research although not definitive, suggests that children reared by openly homosexual parents are far more likely to engage in homosexual behavior than children raised by others," said the online report by Trayce L. Hansen.

[Tiptoetherat]

The key words there are "not definitive" in other words she doesnt have enough evidence to back that up! Furthermore have you looked at her books?? This woman has spent most of her life writing about and doing studies on homosexuals and has NEVER printed anything pro gay. Over and over its all about how gay rights will harm children. Sounds like she is hater to me, if I was an author you had better believe that I would change what I write about now and then, Id get bored honetly, she is BS.

[valu777]

ok thats cool i pay no attention to her

[Tiptoetherat]

anymore?

[FaithandReasons]

@valu777

That is true. It's not an urban legend. The University of Southern California (USC) did a study on homosexual-parenting, and they reached the same conclusion. It's worthy of noting that USC is an advocate of homosexual-parenting and adoption. Before they conducted the study, they believed that there were "no differences" between children raised by homosexuals & those raised by heterosexual parents. Their study clearly refuted the "no differences" belief.

[regemo]

your response doesn't even deserve a response except to tell you that you aren't very intelligent.

[mindrunfree]

Excellent points by David.

[TimTrimT]

Look, the reason the issue is invisible is not because people like me don't support you, it's because WE DON'T CARE.

Let me clarify: Most right minded people like me are bored with this as we already understand your innate human value. For us, we have not been prejudiced against you, you are all in our lives as friends and family and we think you are swell folks, DON'T CARE who you kiss.

So god bless everyone and lets move on to issues of planetary survival please. (FFS!) Got a world to save!

[TheDemonPazuzu]

Just so long as the sodomites stay away from me, I don't even think about them.

[valu777]

A licensed psychologist with both clinical and forensic practice outreaches is warning that it appears children of homosexual couples are seven times more likely to develop "non-heterosexual preferences" than other children, but lawmakers establishing policy often don't know that because the researchers have concealed their discoveries.

[TheDemonPazuzu]

Yes, but just look at how thoroughly the politically correct agenda has warped the minds of everyday people!

[valu777]

i think its the other way around the fallen nature of humanity is fighting its self , why pay banks trillions while millions starve ?

[TheDemonPazuzu]

I agree with that statement and I recently learned of the Founding Fathers' warnings about how these central bankers are far, far more dangerous than the world's largest standing army, but I fail to see how any of that contradicts my statement about political correctness. In fact, it is not in any way a contradiction.

[Tiptoetherat]

There is virtually no evidence that sexual preference is 100% Nature and 0% nurture. Also by in large the longest and most comprehensive studies on same sex parents have shown that the chances of a child rasied by a same sex couple has the EXACT same chance of being gay as a hetrosexual couple. Beyond that is just goes against commen sence, if being gay WAS nurture over nature, then why are do gay kids come out of Traditional Christian (unaccepting) familes?

[cavejourney]

TimTrim - I wish it was that simple. I was kicked out of the house at 17 for being gay. I've been physically beaten up many times for the same reason. It's wonderful that you want to save the planet - I wish you well with it and I volunteer with an environmental charity myself. It's swell that you don't hate gays - but many people still do.

You've lived with significantly more rights and privileges than I do. I want to save the planet AND live in freely within it.

[TimTrimT]

Thumbs up CaveJourney. I hear you and believe me - I'm not defending brutality in any way. But I think the dynamic I portrayed drives a lot of the apathy facing gay rights. Most don't see it as an urgent issue; effectively invisible.

If it makes you feel any better, I also got beat up a lot when young for being a "nerd" & moved out early due to poverty. It's different I know, but ignorant heartless people don't discriminate as much as you'd think when they need to beat the shit out of someone..

[Sardonac]

The failure here is that even though there isn't a recorded and recognized history of many American minorities the history of gays in the United States has become increasingly prevalent and promoted yet is still rejected. Even Fox News refused to report that the movie "Milk" is about a gay politician.

[lunei66]

Seriously, who the f*ck cares if you're straight or gay? People need to grow up and stop judging people from their freaking sexuality.

[averylbrooks]

People need to stop judging others period and deal with their own crap. I do agree with you tho :)

[screwopenborders]

How stupid can you get? Gay history? LOL

[beeohhski]

well if we had retard history you would be the main char

[screwopenborders]

wow you hurt my feelings kid...try again.