Re: David Perry: Will videogames become better than life?

[stalepieonceagain]

video games ARE the real world. it's not like software is non-physical, or that controller in your hand isn't real, the tv is fake. it's a physical object you're looking at. even a person's imagination is physical, so the ideas an artist has that he puts into a game were originally physical even before he wrote them into software or drew them in Paint

[sy1234]

@stalepieonceagain yes all of the tools we work with like our imagination are "real" in that abstract sense that they're based on our physicality. Good point.

But when people talk about realness with video games they compare it with the "meat-space" that exists outside the player's house. Real as in having a pizza with friends not unreal like logging into a game and having virtual pizza with virtual friends.

[stalepieonceagain]

Nah, the law is real. I wish there was more laws (like social laws) in video games. I wish the police were tougher in Grand Theft Auto.

[Finiras]

"holding hands with the woman yuo're in love with"

what if they invent machines that can make you feel that by giving stimuli to your brain?

[sy1234]

What do you mean _when_? I'm a brain in a jar living in the matrix living in the other matrix.

I guess the argument would then talk about suspension of disbelief influencing the perception of quality.  Movies will never get "real" as long as I'm an observer. Games will never get "real" as long as I must suspend my disbelief.

But that's me, I can imagine millions of having thinner barriers and smaller requirements for realness.

[HexicRave]

Yes I agree. They have been better since 1996. Life is just like that.

[sy1234]

You got me thinking about the old vs new difference.. I made a video followup:

watch?v=XeEGjmhInIA