SARGENT & GREENLEAF 831-B U.S. military blast-proof padlock CORRECTIONS & REVIEW

[spartan9944]

Hungarian legonaire , I though the French foriegn legion didn't exist anymore. Can you tell me more about this military ? I'm just curious. As to the ingersol lock, very badass. Great vid, but for the love of god

TURN THE FUCKING TV OFF. Or at least turn it down pleas

[HungarianLegionnaire]

Did the Military also request that the spelling of "Sergeant" be spelt "Sargent" ? Which is wrong... 

[wizwazzle]

@HungarianLegionnaire

No. this spelling is correct, as it is a common name,having absolutely nothing to do with the military rank of sergeant.

[HungarianLegionnaire]

@wizwazzle Oh haha I see, sorry I thought your Ingersol Sargent & Greenleaf blast-proof shrouded was contracted for the military, but spelt wrong. Does the U.S Military use this device to date? I'm in The French Foreign Legion and haven't seen anything like this device in Le Légion étrangère or the Armée Française, (Foreign Legion or French Army).

[wizwazzle]

@HungarianLegionnaire no problem..=) the US military used the 831-b in the 80's and has since been replaced by the 833-C

as far as i know the FF legion uses Ingersoll 10'lever padlocks,but i could be mistaken..

i did a video breakdown of the 10-lever,if you search my vids....

(LOL by the way "spelt is spelled "spelled")

just kidding...thanks for watching.

[2ndAsstJizzMopper]

TV needs to be louder.

[b03tz]

Amazing lock....very effin' nice...

[TheF0XR]

Hey You are the person that made me really into the S&G. So I got a S&G 833. My question is where can I get the tool to rotate the pins to line up for the side bar?

[wizwazzle]

@TheF0XR ooo, 831...awesome!

i use a short hook..it takes a LOT of practice.

Q: do you have keys?

feel free to pm me.

[wizwazzle]

@MLPSTORM yes they appear on ebay on a daily basis now..can be had for 50 $

[HenryChinaski405]

enjoyed the video. Interesting. PERHAPS, next time, you turn the episode of Family Guy off in the background? VERY distracting.

[Windowstweeker]

hey wiz, i have a question about the whole liquid nitrogen part of this lock...if you submerged the lock and let it cool couldnt you just take a screwdriver and hammer and hit the core and after it shatters the locking bar falls the shackle will pop open? lol i have been wondering thought i would ask

[Brentyn1985]

Where might I get a lock like this?

[vision688]

just got my 831b last week this lock will be in my collection for a long time

[DSSlocksmiths]

The ceramic inserts are nothing to do with cryogenic attacks, it's to slow down portable disc cutters and carbide tipped tools, which otherwise would remove it in seconds.

The steel alloy used is resistant to shattering. That's how it resists both the low temperature attacks and the shatter effects of high explosives.

Also, I'd trust an Ingersoll 10 lever mech over the now compromised Medeco system.

[wizwazzle]

yes, i happen to own the ingersol 10-lever.

very hard to pick.

thanks for your input.

[mikeythegreat18]

man thats one hell of a lock im stunned

[spektek9]

Cool lock but if you have a strong person jimmy a smaller size like rebar but tougher that does not bend you could snap the shackle off with It getting it opened in seconds/ Most people are not strong enough cant' do it . Also can't use big bolt cutters not strong enough.

[wizwazzle]

it would appear you are not familiar with the specs on this lock,or the way it works.

prying just tightens the mech,and the shroud prevents

bolt cutters.

dont matter how strong you are,even with a 4-foot

prybar you would be S.O.L.

these are used my the army to lock up ammo,guns,and explosive ordinance .

tested against MANY attacks.

no roid-monkey with a crowbar will open the S&G 831-B any time soon,...

[spektek9]

Yes i was incorrect i didnt know the lock must be on a very thick hasp it locks onto probabley have to pick Wiz Thanks for the info mabey you can only try to pick it Thanks Wiz,

[wizwazzle]

no sweat =)

yes the hasps are almost as impressive as the locks..

i will try my best to pick it

,but it is probably far off for me...

(six rotating pins....)

thanks for watching =)

[lockpicks08]

Nice info, looking 4ward to the next m8

[wazetah]

are you sure thats a Biaxial core in that it looks like a Medeco Classic key to me and Medecos only have 3 different rotational angles for,center,and aft lol just some more corrections for ya

[wizwazzle]

yeah, thanks,you are right =)

i am prolly gonna pull this vid and do a new one with all the updated info,but this time i run it all by Han first,

make sure i got it right.

a couple of the corrections are not completely correct

as well...=/

anyway,thanks for watchin' and the feedback

[gnarkill770]

any luck on picking this thing yet wiz?

[wizwazzle]

been plgging away at medeco in general,but not this

particular lock,YET..jruther2 nailed one 2 days ago,

check out his opening only vid...

lol

he is like me when i nailed the MTL..just BUZZIN on adrenaline=)

[opersita519]

who the fuck could pick this thing?

U wiz?!

[wizwazzle]

i know a few ppl who can....

maybe in a year or so of med3co practice...

i am up to 5 pins with the sidebar in,but my time is bad.

(6 pin med3co DnD kw)

[opersita519]

it is a 5 pin?

i thought it was 6.

and key looks deep. is this harder or easier than the abloy?

[wizwazzle]

it is a six.

(6 pin med3co DnD kw) !

[YogSoggoth6]

Cool video, very interesting lock. Are there any confirmed instances of someone being able to pick this thing? Ive searched around the internet and haven't seen anyone claiming to have picked it (yet).

[Longi452]

now let's see you pick this wiz :D

[lolkungen94]

family guy <3 :D nice vid btw

[DaneS47]

Thanks! Great Video.

And BIG thanks for all the help you give to

all of us new folks.

[Astrilec]

Very good and clear lesson! 5 stars and many more! Thanks. Well, I also saw your clip about Cisa 220/50: I tried many times with one oh theese but with no success. Any suggest will be really appreciate! I'm italian, sorry for my english! Astrid

[Jc3intelligent]

damn! that's gotta be the most secure lock in the world! ball bearings,heavy shroud,biaxial pins,liquid nitrogen protection,that's gotta be GREAT! but why is it an ingersoll/sargent & greenleaf with a medeco core? is it interchangeable like the LSDA?

[wizwazzle]

no...just rekeyable

[gnarkill770]

lock from hell. the god of all locks. lets see it become one of the fallen to your awsome lockpicking skills! i have the 826D! its the sem only without a shackle cover.

[scorche]

Reposted as requested:

I like that you are trying to correct your mistakes from the last one, but a few things:

A)This is a S&G lock. They just used the design with permission from Ingersoll

B)It was NEVER available to the public

C)It never cost $1200

D)The government didn't have to order them in 10,000 quantities and placed much larger (and other size) orders

E)The government pays $156.03 for the 833 padlock (you seem in a number of comments to be confusing this lock and the 833 padlock)

[scorche]

F)The S&G 833 model has the double ball mechanism

G)The keys and cylinder you have and that are in all 831 padlocks are Original Medeco cylinders - not Biaxial

H)This does not have fore and aft pins (this was instroduced with Biaxial)

H)The ceramic elements are not for Nitrogen resisitance - ceramic actually shatters easily - it is there for extreme drill/cut resistance

There may be more, but this list will do until the next video ;)

[jkthecjer]

S&G 831B use Medeco Original cores not Medeco Biaxial.

[scorche]

yeah...that was part of my original corrections comment that he deleted for some odd reason... =/

[wizwazzle]

Please re post your corrections if you can?

[scorche]

Was there something offensive about my comments? I thought you would be open to more corrections...

[wizwazzle]

no, absolutely no offence at all...i am trying to learn all i can about this lock,and was hoping you could repost the corrections

thanks.

[lolustupid]

do all locks dissasemble some how?

[wizwazzle]

not all....most of the more expensive ones do...

[spoolpinpicker]

what a ultimate lock great video!!!

[duby149]

dude that a F*CKING huge lock it'll be funny if some one used it for they bike people will be like WTF is that thing LoL XD

[808fophun]

great as always wiz.

[KevinH2k7]

7 piece rule ?

[wizwazzle]

7 pcs or less,yeah..only 5 pieces here

[A1rPun]

"American dad" on the background? :D thanks for all the info about the locks, i really appreciated!

[lockpickingmen]

YEAH !!!! a excellent info man 5***** (because no more)

[xlockpick]

AWESOME DUDE!! that is sooooooooo sweet! great vid!

[wizwazzle]

heh...thanx =)

[Straaasse]

again great info!

[BostonTrucker]

Damm that is nice, wow Expensive i guess they should be if there bulit proof have you tested it to make sure its bulit proof LOL

[dieselducy]

i wish i could get hold of one of these..

[wizwazzle]

i was waiting for you too see this. =) ...i know you have an appreciation for such things....

[vision688]

very well explained

[wizwazzle]

thank you.

[holypit]

how did you get that

[wizwazzle]

from a psychopathic Texan....

(and a fellow picker)

[jruther2]

Very nice. I can't wait to see you pop that thing open!

[wizwazzle]

dont be surprized if i come to you for help =)

[Longi452]

lmao, i was watching that family guy episode yesterday too :D

[jagjagme]

allways simpsons and family guy in the backround lol ;D

[sromanecz]

dude u r crazy u r deff a lock expert if i ever need a lock expert you would deff be the person id call i guarantee if i took that lock to any locksmith in this state they would be clueless

[UrlorJkron]

That's quite a racket in the background.

[wizwazzle]

yes...the background noise is there for a reason.

[bobcat5AM]

Great vid mate!That lock is amazing! :o)

[S1DESHOWMICK]

Mate that is one fantastic padlock, it's always great to watch videos with heap's of upgraded info, and i don't care if you don't pick it, it's just a great padlock. Thanks 5*

[douglas0929]

one word holy

[nekobakasan]

Your a fizzl!

like the vid. happy picking.

[wizwazzle]

LOL =p "nobody calls me a fizzle and gets away with it!"

thanx...=)

[Windowstweeker]

amazing lock, now pick it...lol, how did you acquire that beauty

[wizwazzle]

oh, i WILL get it picked.=)..if it takes me a year,

i will pick it. =)

(working on getting the parts together to make the tools i need....)

[Windowstweeker]

well good luck, im waiting for that video, lol

[wizwazzle]

hahaha =) thanks, ( i will need it )

[61pickgun]

Would trimming the operating key work on a 826 render it into a control key?

It seems that the same scenario would apply.

Great tech review on the lock, Wiz!

[wizwazzle]

an easy way to tell....just see if the keyway

has the stop for the shoulder...if it does then i would bet on it.

thanks,btw =)

[targetbuttmonkey]

Rocksrar! Very informative on a fascinating lock - hope to see that puppy get picked but wow nasty pins angling in all directions may be all but impossible. Great job on this vid!!

[wizwazzle]

thanks man..