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  • Edna Cintron stood waving for rescue in the North Tower plane shaped hole for at least 20 minutes.

    Isn't it logical Edna should have roasted if there was that much heat to weaken steel

    SEE YT VID: Fire Weakens Steel but not Woman Waving in Tower...4:14 min

  • They all experienced explosions going off every single one of them. Could that mean explosions?

    NIST didnt even check for explosives which was incredibly stupid. but hey its an official investigation and the whole thing is marked by stupidity

    Pools of molten steel?

    Lets not even bother with them

    . the official investigation was a joke

    Anything that didnt support the official story was ignored. Its pathetic an investigation ignores evidence they dont like

  • Secondary Explosions is a stupid theory

    There was TONS of electric work in WTC and tons of fuel lines and stuff.

    You think they wouldnt explode?

  • Oil...it's what's for dinner.

  • Explosions and lateral ejections clearly visible.

    watch?v=NxGJHTlpOc8

  • This is fucked up. Those conspiracy douchebags manipulated and took advantage of John's confusion, and tried to make some truth of it.

  • golly gee...thanks a bunch.thanks for straightening me out on that... you idiot. and we all just fell off the turnip truck. what is amazing is the gov. expects anyone to believe their conspiracy theory. they did. it is proven. now all we have to do is wait for it to hit mainstream. there is no debunking live nanothermite that can be ignited. there is no debunking molten steel. connect the dots moron. Wait! stop the presses. I found their passports at the crash sites!!!

  • Are you related to Cass Sunstein somehow? Can you say (unreacted) NANOTHERMITE? Fact: It was found all over Manhattan. Perhaps you'll relocate your soul someday? Good luck with that.

    “Cowardice asks the question, ‘Is it safe?’ Expediency asks the question, ‘Is it politic?’ But conscience asks the question, ‘Is it right?’ And there comes a time when one must take a position that is neither safe, nor politic, nor popular but because conscience tells one it is right.” - Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.

  • THE LOBBS WAS BLOWN OUT BEFORE SECOND PLANE HIT!!!!!!!! WHEN I CAME DOWN INTO THE LOBBY IT WAS ALREADY BLOWN TO SHIT!!!!!!

  • @rsmcgranahan Well what do you expect? If a huge ass jet slams into a skinny building a 500mph full speed It's going to ROCK the foundation (foundation of a building means bottom, or in this case we'll go with lobby so you can understand better) sending a gigantic shock wave throughout, and blowing out countless windows. This massive shock wave even blew out windows in cars around the area. A fully loaded jet has the destructive power of more bombs than you can imagine kiddo, no paper planes.

  • @rsmcgranahan Basically what I'm trying to say, is that even the shock wave from the first tower being hit would cause the lobby of the building RIGHT NEXT to it to be fucked up along with all the cars as well. Now....if there is SOLID proof that the lobby of the first tower hit was blown out, then I'll be a believer. Just remember, no paper plans, air plains are flying bombs if completely consumed (they were by the building), most plan crashes are slow (they aint murders) accidents, and dragggg

  • @kushsmokkeralt Think about it really hard, from the top of the building to the bottom of the plane crash was only about 25% of the whole building. So why would the WHOLE entire building be blasted into dust.? That's like saying I broke my collar bone and my whole body calapsed due to bone failure. Just doesn't add up. And believe me I know having to think that 9/11 was done by people within our own government, or at least that there was explosives in the buildings is a very dark thought

  • dear, you don't have any videos on the Thermite that has been found, how comes ???

  • @zoobizzit Thermite that has been?? na thats unproven BS

  • @TheLHOser

    here; /watch?v=8_tf25lx_3o

  • @zoobizzit NO Still unproven bs no video will change that for you. 

  • DOWN WITH SILVERSTEIN!

  • "The reason the lobby was blown out and evacuated was also because of the collapse"

    This is simply a lie.

    William Rodriguez (janitor at wtc and 911 hero) declared they were blown out of the lobby by secondary explosions, then ran outside, and then saw the second plane impact.

  • Makes no sense.

  • For more information see my video "John Schroeder, FDNY, 9/11 Hero"

  • rkowens,,,,,,,,,you are without a doubt,,,,,,,,,,the king of the douches,,,,,,,,,,,to actually try to push the complete lunacy of the official sac of bullshit conspiracy theory that the government laid out to us,,,,,,,,,damn you to hell,,,,,,,,,the cops know,,,,,,,,,the firefighters know,,,,,,,,the architects know,,,,,,,,the physicists know,,,,,,,,the pilots know,,,,,,and most of all a majority of the masses now know,,,,,,,,that damn near everything we were told that day were massive lies!!!

  • YOu fucks just go around debunking everything are you going to debunk me too, how much do you get payed to do these, or were they orders?? I just dont believe this horse shit I decieded that that day I seen the towers fall in 1HR BS is what I say. Youre scum for doing this the familys are in NY right now begging for the TRUTH not the comissions bullshit and you guys debunk everthing about that day the THERMITE WTC 7 wasnt struck bye the towers I can show you pics bet you wont give youre email!!

  • 'Terrorists' will also destroy buildings and then launder money into the construction firms hired in to rebuild what they have just destroyed. There is a joke in Manchester that the IRA are experts in urban renewal because they blew the city center up and then won the contracts to rebuild it. They made a fortune as did their bosses MI5.

    Thats my personal experience of 'terrorism' I was scared at the time but looking back and sussing out why they did it, I just think 'you clever bastards'.

  • For more on John Schroeder see my video "John Schroeder, FDNY, 9/11 Hero"

  • These videos prove nothing, its all nonsense, wake up people! There is a vid on here of a us soldier who said in 2004 he knew 911 was a lie, and they were hoping everyone back home would expose the lie and bring them home! what have you all been waiting for?

  • @MrOllie86 Debunked. Move on.

  • he was there you mr rkowned was at home playing with yourself

  • Elevator cabs and their attached equipment falling down the shafts would have sounded like explosions and caused great damage in the lobby and basement. The DC motors and pulleys are huge and just sit to the side of the shafts and are merely bolted to the floor. They could easily be pulled into the shafts and fall all the way to the bottom if large amounts of debris were to fall on top of the cars themselves .I was a building engineer for awhile in a 75 floor building

  • Haha if loose change keeps his story in the dark and exploits his beliefs why haven't you or anyone else interviewed him, why doesn't he seek an interview if he supports the governments version I'm sure any network will talk with him. This isn't a debunking this is you speaking for a guy you don't know & who doesn't know you. FAIL

  • This video didn't debunk shit. You're basically just guessing what Schroeder was thinking in an attempt to discredit the obvious evidence of 2ndary explosions. You did not show enough clips from the interview to "debunk it" Anyone who has watched the entire interview with Schroeder knows he talks about other explosions not related to the plane crash or collapse. Schroeder's testimony is MUCH more powerful than what was shown in this clip.

  • @unicorntaxi So,what makes you any different?

  • NSG

  • No bombs obviously but who trained the perpetrators and let them commit mass murder? I find it hard to belive the official version of events. No video evidence of a plane striking the pentagon and islamic students hijacking the planes with craft knives? complete bollocks. I dont belive goverments, they are full of shit.

    R.I.P to those who died on that day.

  • @burnzgotshot So, how would the hijackers get the plane. They are not going to have ak-47's and be dressed any different. Also, objects like that probably made it through a large amount of times back then because airport security didn't really do everything they were supposed to. Also, comapring them to special forces, they probably were hand picked, best of the best, operatives for Al-Qaeda or who ever the hell it was. Lastly, anyhting else would be very noticed and would be stopped quickly.

  • @USAFFuturePilot You still had to go through metal detectors and all the other degrading bullshit even in those days so it seems that someone gave them the blades in-between the security checks and boarding the plane. They were most likely CIA trained opratives. Research 'operation cyclone' to get an overview.

  • @burnzgotshot Oh, you mean the operation to pay alot of muslim militants to destroy russian forces in the middle east? I don't see the point in talking about cyclone. So we tried to beat russia, any means necissary. Unless 9/11 was done by the U.S, against the U.S, to attack Russia? I'm not trying to be a dick, but I honestly don't get it. And yes, we did pay Al-Qaede, no arguement about it. Also, blades between security? I't is now sounding like some movie. But explain in detail everything.

  • @USAFFuturePilot Only the pentagon and all the people who worship that giant statue of an owl at bohemian grove know the full story and its not the one they tell the media to reiterate. We can only speculate on the tactics involved but as for the motives then its plain to see that there is far more to it than the US vs Islam. In my opinion its the Human Race vs the Globalists, Im not looking forward to seeing UN troops on the streets of America but when that happens we know we're fucked.

  • @burnzgotshot The blades were more than likely ceramics, undetectable to metal detectors. It's no different from a shank in a prison yard. Hell in a prison yard paper can be lethal enough to be made as a make shift dagger and pierce the throat quiet easily. Even after 9/11 a teenager snuck in a box cutter and got arrested after he said he had a box cutter on him.

  • @godzilla1077 Maybe even shards of glass wrapped in ducktape for a handle. Either way the goverments of the world have used this terrorism nonsense to gain more control over our lives and increase a centralised powerbase. Al-Qaeda are a bunch of inept imbeciles, there is no way they could have pulled off this mass murder without being trained by elite forces and be given carte blanche to go ahead with it.

  • @burnzgotshot Not really. You do realize there have been terrorist attacks on U.S. soil not counting the first WTC attack in 93'.

  • @godzilla1077 Yeah and every time an attack takes place they chip away at your constitution which leads to less freedom. Can you not see it happening? Ive been watching them for years in the UK. They played the IRA and the UDA off each other for years and put an immense amount of draconian laws in place to 'protect' us from 'the terrorists' and take away our freedom. Please dont let the USA go the same way, it would be a shame.

  • @burnzgotshot I think you're just paranoid. The government may not be all good,but this doesn't help them. Things like 9/11 cause more and more problem,shit the world needs to worry about every day.

  • @burnzgotshot

    Lol no video of a plane striking it? Do you not trust a hundred witnesses? Do you think a missile could have knocked down those light posts? Do you think a missile could leave behind debris of a Boeing? Wake up.

  • @Flashstorm100 OK, it was Bin Laden and his evil henchmen who perpetrated the attacks from his underground high-tech facility in Torra Borra.

    Come on, the official version sounds like a fucking James Bond script. I still want a video of a plane striking the Pentagon and then I might change my mind. Until then I will carry on with my belief that this heinous crime was commited by the CIA, MI5 and Mossad.

  • @burnzgotshot

    Lol you want an idiot. I honestly can't believe people doubt that a plane hit the Pentagon. Morons. Witnesses, physical evidence isn't enough. Only the truly ignorant need a video of it.

  • @burnzgotshot

    watch?v=YVDdjLQkUV8

    There is your video. You'll notice how the wing of the aircraft matches perfectly and the wing disappears right as the plane hits the Pentagon.

  • @Flashstorm100 I got exited then, I thought you sent me a link to an actual video of a plane striking the Pentagon but as usual it was just a CG animation of something the Pentagon's security cameras failed to capture.

    And if what that video conveys is true then it was an amazingly accurate hit for a bunch of islamic students who had done a few hours in flight school.

    Still not convinced Flashstorm . . .

  • @burnzgotshot

    Lol a few hours in flight school right. By the way, it shows what the camera caught. Again, how did those light posts get knocked down? Bombs? How clever.

  • @Flashstorm100 I are agree with yuo. these truthers ar stoopid i saw that video of the plane hits the pentegon and the consprirasy fucks still deny it happens. it was obviusly bin laden and not our goverment. anyone who says it was not is are bin laden is a trayter to the American peeple an shuold be burned at a steak. those dum truther ideeots always tring to look for other ansers wen facts ar ther in front of a them. h

  • @Flashstorm100 I would not put anything past the CIA, MI5 and Mossad. An analogy I use to convey my thinking of the Pentagon attack is from when me and my friends were burgled while living in a house share. All of our doors were kicked in and all of us had items stolen. It turned out that it was one of my 'friends' who had done the burglary, kicked his own door in as well as ours and trashed his own room. Same applies to 9/11 only innocent people lost their lives.

  • @Flashstorm100 What is your game? I looked through your past comments and you just seem to be being inanley antagonistic against those who are suspicious of the true motives of the people who run the world. What is wrong with being vigilant and questioning the status quo? Jefferson even said eternal vigilance is the price of liberty so why are you being obstinate, or are you just being truculent out of tedium?

  • @burnzgotshot

    Oh, nothing wrong with questioning. It's just ridiculous when it gets to the point of spreading around ignorance and stupidity.

  • @Flashstorm100 I agree, mainstream news for example.

  • @burnzgotshot

    If only mainstream news bullshitted half as much as Loose Change alone.

  • @Flashstorm100 Loose change should be called 'loose ends' it's quite sloppy and does no one who died that day any justice. They are most likely disinformers same as mainstream media. The mirror image of the twisted truth, the bipolar opposite of the tiny eyed lies that spew forth like a jet of information vomitus. Both sides have their compartmentalised versions of events and I'm in the middle looking beyond what they see, like being neutral at a baseball game and being nonchalant as to who wins

  • @burnzgotshot Okay,if the CIA did 9/11,wouldn't you think to be more convincing,they would have done worser than using planes to hit buildings with? Honestly,those agents are much smarter than you think.

  • @Anon7771 What are you trying to convince me of, that the CIA, MI5, Mossad, MSS, SVR, etc . . . are benevolent organisations with the best interests of the human race at heart and that Islam is the great evil?

  • @burnzgotshot I never said that,and they aren't trying to destroy islam,They are trying to stop idiots from blowing themselves up since their mindset seems permanent. Terrorists will kill anyone different from themselves,even fellow muslims. I don't know about what you actually think,nor care,but I'm just saying what logic says,not faith of believe. I use what I have,not what I guess and take too fast as evidence,then stick with it,like the 9/11 truthers. If 9/11 was an inside job,everyone knows

  • @Anon7771 Thats why I think there is more to it than Islam v USA. If you belive in that paradigm then you may as well think the feuds on WWF wrestling are real. There are many reasons for the attacks other than jihad, oil, US support of the Saudi dictatorship and Zionism. If anything it was a massive insurance scam.

    The sad thing about 9/11 and the subsequent conflicts is that millions have lost their lives and you can't joke about that.

  • @burnzgotshot You can think of it that way,but it doesn't mean you know. We don't know what's going on and making guesses show ignorance of the whole thing that you don't clearly know. Who knows what's going on,but evidence doesn't show that because it's a matter of getting that evidence. If you can get it straight from the horse's mouth,then we can get somewhere.

  • @burnzgotshot You make it sound like a James bond script. Osama has no evil henchmen,but bodyguard who follow a messed up version of Islam. This shit has been going on every since The USA took Al-Qaeda's place in controlling the Middle East and protecting it from invasions from the community. That area always had problems. There's a rare video of a plane hitting the Pentagon,but it's bootleg,so you still wouldn't believe it..

  • @burnzgotshot Nobody does,but you don't need to listen to the government to know 9/11 was not an inside job.

  • @burnzgotshot Didn't take much training. 1. Terrorists have proven in the past that it's not terribly difficult to hijack a plane, it's happened quite a few times. 2. flying a plane into a building isn't all that difficult, especially to a trained pilot. 3. No terrorist had ever flown a plane into a building before, the people onboard had no clue it was going to happen, probably figured it was going to end like every other hijacking when they land and demand ransom or something stupid.

  • @burnzgotshot Is there video evidence of you have sex? You'r a virgin then it never happened LOL And they are probably keeping them for security reasons or there could be 38934889 reasons we don't know that they are hiding from us...butr the point is, do you think they would give you NUT JOBS the PLEASURE of what you want? These guys are pissed that killed osama for you and you think they did it, they probably can't even understand this. FUCKKKKK!!!

  • @burnzgotshot Why would there be wide "video" evidence of a plane striking the pentagon. Do you think people spent all day and night filming the Pentagon in case a plane hit it?

  • @MrDigitalgenie there were hundreds of security tapes confiscated from many establishments and areas around the Pentagon, none have been released. Surely if they have nothing to hide then they should let them be viewed by the public.

  • @fallschirmjager0000 Lets face if "something" hits the building, they're going to get all the security tapes and watch them and work out what happened. That's what tends to happen when there is a crime, they get the tapes and analysis what happened.

  • @MrDigitalgenie Why would they need to know what happened when the said what happened like 2 hours after the thing happened, why not put these 'Conspiracys' to bed...Oh and just so you know....The official story is also a conspiracy

  • @MrDigitalgenie nope but there were around 100 cctv tapes that were confiscated by the fbi

  • @burnzgotshot you make the claim there was no evidence of a plane hitting the pentagon in other words there was no plane then make the statement RIP to those that died. Fuck you you disrespectful pile of dog shit. How the fuck can you claim that those people did not exist then tell them RIP. A fucking pile of shit is better than you. You fucking pathetic stupid asshole. You are full of shit and we don't care what your bullshit opinion is. Go somewhere and die you fucking asshole

  • @burnzgotshot

    Go fuck you man, racist little motherfucker like alex jones and the rest.

  • I guess this filmmaker is unaware of the 118 first responders that testified at the 9/11 commission hearings. ALL 118 of these people testified to having felt and or heard explosions going off in the towers.

  • @echoandi I don't think the testimony you are referring to was from the commission. Thousands of accounts were taken from 9/11 and that 118 of them used the word "explosion" to describe what they heard is no surprise at all. These responders do not believe there were bombs involved it was merely the best way they could describe what they heard. There are mundane explanations for the sounds... They were not the first 118 either. That is a selection.

  • @markh1011 .............I am surprised to find, seemingly intelligent, people still making arguments without looking at the mountains of evidence proving controlled demolition.

    Here is a new compilation to check out!

    w.youtube.com/watch?v=ERhoNYj9­_fg&playnext_from=TL&videos=nm­GpLmXs4us&feature=recentf 

  • @echoandi ".I am surprised to find," - I'm surprised that people still believe in silly conspiracies no matter how much time people spend debunking them. Then again I've argued with religious people before so I'm probably not that surprised.

    So supposedly the NWO took town WTC7 with very obvious loud explosions and the NYFD didn't notice? They must have all been in on it because they believed it would collapse naturally long before it did. ...

  • @echoandi actually, the maker of this film has another one talking about those 118 people too. and what they really said... look it up and stop believing the ct sites.

  • @matchesison Many witness testimonies you can see for yourself YouTube

    "Jesse Ventura/Alex Jones 911 : FBI Director Asking FDNY Film Crew About Secondary Hit 3/4"

  • @echoandi jesse ventura is making is making butt loads of money on anything conspiracy motivated so i wont listen to a thing he has to say. money is his motive. same thing with alex jones. they are not credible sources. looking at alexs history is enough to know he is only after money too.

  • @echoandi Ventura and Jones are in it for the money. Same thing with Avery, Griffin and Gage.

  • @godzilla1077 Solid argument pee-brain!

    Shoot the messenger....don't analyze or even look at the evidence yourself.

  • @echoandi Yes, you would "feel" explosions too if a plane hit the exact same building you were standing in. You would also "feel" explosions if a 110 story skyscraper were to collapse only feet from where you're standing!! Did you even watch the video posted above or is your brain too pea-size to comprehend or maybe it's just that you can't read!!??

  • @echoandi I guess you are unaware of the world? 12000 pages of details of what people felt. Explain what people would feel A. When a plane crashes into a building above them? Kinetic energy, energy dispersion. So anyone below or above would indeed feel/hear an explosion that would feel right next to them. B. NIST DID entertain the idea of controlled demolition, and they checked for explosive material. None of the two unique by-products of thermite were there, nothing indicative of explosives...

  • @crazykidcapa Thousands of architects an engineers who have nothing to hide or gain unlike NIST/gov people don't agree with u . Are u a engineers or architect ? I will believe experts over some moron on u tube who believes a report done by the people who were involved. To say there wrong would show your ignorance and discredit all u say !! I will trust 20+ years expert engineers&architects ,physicist over ALL

  • @Headshothorror4488 "a engineers" and "to say there wrong" You talk about people being ignorant!

  • @crazykidcapa "NIST DID entertain the idea of controlled demolition, and they checked for explosive material. None of the two unique by-products of thermite were there, nothing indicative of explosives..."

    This is a lie. NIST did not test for explosives.

    They did some calculations on sound emissions for a single explosive, RDX, which was the loudest they could find. Then in their sound model, they didn't account for building diffusion...in Manhattan.

    Please check facts before posting.

  • @OneVoiceMore The explosive in question would cause hearing damage at a half mile. It's comparable to standing in front of speakers at a rock concert. It wasn't heard or recorded by people on scene, even the ones in the buildings when they collapsed.

    If there were explosives in WTC 7, were they planted before or after WTC 1's collapse?

  • @echoandi

    /watch?v=2hBDXB6cifo&feature=c­hannel_video_title

    And this time, watch the whole fucking video!

  • @echoandi ''This filmaker'' is fully aware of the ''118 first responders''. If you had bother to watch his videos instead of just commenting crap, you'll see that he has even made a debunking video about your fucking 118 first responders.

    /watch?v=2hBDXB6cifo&feature=c­hannel_video_title

  • @echoandi Yes, and? Things explode in office fires. Not necessarily explosives. If it was a conspiracy, why would They let almost *ten dozen* people testify in open court putting holes in their story?

  • @echoandi Well there's 83493 flammable and explosive materials in big buildings, hell you'll find shit loads in the Janiters closet.You're trying to tell me that when a huge plane slams into a building and causes huge fire balls to go over the building , crackling and reaching explosive material, that they wont here explosions!! fuck a secondary!! they should have heard 7 or 8 at least. And you can't take down a building with single explosions and different times, hundreds at the same..only way!

  • @echoandi

    Explosions, not explosives... Not to mention that all these accounts were long before or long after the collapse.

  • @usindependent50 Explosions were reported during or just before the collapses. Please read the essay "Explosive Testimony" before sharing your "knowledge". Chief Ray Downey, FDNY, was one of the premiere collapse experts in the country. He told Father John Delendick that he thought there had been bombs in the top of the south tower, because the collapse was too even.

    For more about John Schroeder, see my video:

    John Schroeder, FDNY, 9/11 Hero

  • @punxsutawneybarney

    No, they were not. Name one of those accounts that were reported during the collapse. Cheif Ray Downey said it LOOKED LIKE there had been bombs but even he does not beleive the conspiracy.

    John Schroeder was exploited by conspiracy theorists. You obviously should watch this video.

    Anyone in the demolition business would know that the charge required to make a straight cut through the supports in the WTC would create a detonation that would be heard across the Hudson.

  • @usindependent50 Dude, the collapse happened in 15 seconds. There was no time to report anything during the collapse. Afterwards, 118 first responders reported sounds of explosions or flashes of light.

    You don't know what you're talking about with Chief Ray Downey. He has personal reasons for keeping silent.

    For information about straight cuts through the supports in the WTC see my video:

    Incendiary Experiments

  • @punxsutawneybarney

    Well duh, none of the 118 testimonies of explosions were reported to be heard during the collapse.

    Oh and you know Cheif Downey so personally. Maybe he's not keeping silent. Maybe hes just ignoring the crazy conspiracies.

    There is zero way that any type of incendiary could make a cut through those supports. Wait, I thought you said it was an explosive?

  • @usindependent50 You don't know what you[re talking about. Do your homework. Start with my video that shows how incendiary thermite cuts through steel columns and beams like a hot knife through butter.

    Incendiary Experiments

  • @echoandi Of course explosions are going off in a building just hit by a 767 at 500 miles an hour. Fires are burning up office material, electronics, and the steel frame.

  • "Felt" or "Heard" explosions? Do you think it was all nice a stable after a plane hit?

  • @echoandi lol,nope.

  • @ACEBAKER

    I state that you probably watched Matrix when your parents left for a dinner or a parents summit at school - whatever.

    However, with all your talent - that one can read out of your statements; should you ever have problems like loosing your job, failing exams or your girl leaving you. Turn back to this site and re read what you wrote, it might give you a clue for the "why".

  • LOL and again....this guy is the one cherry picking information and misrepresenting people. Watch Core of Corruption and this debunking guy will look like a friggin idiot.

  • Yeah, its obvious that this guy is confused about what happened..Sounds like a scary as hell situation he was in...Then the Loose Change losers interview him, try to keep him confused....Everyone else in his company said they only experienced the collapse..No bombs.....so why would any respectable investigator take the word of one witness, and throw away the reports of the other witnesses in the same area. Well the answer is simple...you do it if your lying, trying to make up a story.

  • @JPPolachek

    Truthers like to cherry pick their witnesses and misrepresent others. There's nothing true about their inside job tales, expect for the date.

  • I usually like these vids. This one was a little weak though.

  • its amazing how you debunk an eyewitness account saying things like "in fact". total conjecture. he is saying "second plane?" THEN all hell breaks loose "within seconds". that is not even close to the time line this video is pure conjecture and have skewed assumption that a fire-fighter can mistake a plane flying into a building and a collapse when they were an hour apart from each other. try again.

  • RKO = games player who wants to win an argument. (no matter how much nonsense he has to put forth)

    Don't waste your energy on this person.

  • MoJoSB, sure youre right but what are the rest of us to do when we're bored and want to kick around some idiots for fun (e.g. gid256, RKO, batmangreen, etc. ??) A guy's got to have a little fun sometimes... lol.

  • Your name is accurate.

  • Awcome on batman, is that all you got? You and RKO must be room mates. I actually wish i had not uncovered the truth myself but i am not going to stand by and watch another person claim to debunk a bunch of facts with nothing more than not wanting to understand the facts and just make a few statements that are not backed up by any facts at all. E-Z chair deducting is bullshit. We all wish someone can show us the magical facts and say yes our enemy is an outsider and not the NeoCons of America.

  • you get more facts in two 3 minute debunk videos then any conspiracy theory crap you watch or read. all of the debunk videos have CREDIBLE sources.. science.. math.. and pictures to back up there claims. go check the crediblity of just the people who do the conspiracy videos. none of them have hard facts and there integrity is questionable. just look up the three idiots who did "loose change". there idiots and you buy into there BS.

  • lol who do you work for?

  • he has a right to try. he also has the right to fail. as he has done here. i don't suspect him of being some shill. simply a helpful fool trying to hold on to his fantasy.

  • watch?v=6tovqJQC2tA

    watch?v=ABc1TSBO7_Y

  • He says he saw the first one fall and THEN he says he "GOT DOWN TO THE WATER" and watched the other one collapse....

    How long did it take him and his fellow fire fighters to"GET DOWN TO THE WATER"??

    A half an hour maybe?

    I DID NOT hear a damned thing to prove he was saying that he saw them collapse one right after the other.

  • NO  planes were actually used on 911

    Watch

    Theory of ghostplane

    911 taboo

  • I don't believe the "No planes theory",Sorry ^_^

  • then what kind of Planes were they and who was flying them at the controls ?

  • If there were no planes, where the hell are the passengers?

  • i dont have any idea where the passengers are or even if they were real names or made up. We know that on the Social security death index many of the Names of the ' supposed' people that boarded those planes are not on the List.

    What do we universally have to examine is the  Video evidence of the Planes. and those Plane videos are full of massive obvious errors .

    There are a thousand reasons i can cite why NO planes were used

  • Well, here's one I can cite:

    On September 11, 2001, a friend of my Uncle's boarded American Airlines Flight 11 to Los Angeles. He has not been seen or heard of in 8 years.

    According to the mainstream account, he tied when his flight impacted the North Tower of the WTC.

    According to conspiracy theorists....

    ...

    ...

    Well, where is he?

  • i dont know because im not a ' theorist ' im simply an Avg American with an Open clear logical objective mind using Critical thinking to evaluate the evidence to determine the Truth as best i can.

    I have No idea where your Uncles Friend is, its impossible for me to know that. Give me the evidence regard him and ill evaluate it the same way i evaluated the Plane video evidence which is obviously Fake and Phony

    Watch

    SEPTEMBER CLUES

  • You have a lack of logic, planes were flown into the world trade center. are you to blind to see that. besides, there were phone calls made from the passengers aboard the hijacked flights. do you also think nibiru will hit the earth in 2012?

  • Your friends uncle could be dead right now, or he could be living on a beach on an island in the Tropics drinking a Mai tai and having fun, who knows ?

    Regardless of where he is or what happened to him,  what we all do have and can universally examine is the videos we were All given showing the Planes.

    And those videos do not add or Line up with actual planes, 1,000 reasons i can cite that show they are fake.

    Your Friends Uncle being dead or Alive doesnt change that

  • Your Analogy is like me saying to you, The News said OJ simpson didnt kill his wife, and the reason he didnt is because you cant find me anyone else who actually did do the murders, therefore, defacto ,  OJ has to be innocent

    One has nothing to do with the Other being its unknown, all you can do is Evaluate the evidence that is given to you.

    i dont need to yet know what happened to your uncles friend to be able to show the Plane videos are Fake, 2 totally seperate issues

  • Watch this video

    911 inside out Pilots

  • who knows prob shot to death burnt to a crisp somewhere

  • watch

    911 Taboo

  • gay

  • You're right, you are gay.

  • all i know is that that mother fucker was there on 911. more than you can say dick wad

  • wow... that firefighter lived a haunting experience and he is pretty fucked up because of it. You can tell at one point he didn't feel comfortable talking about it.

  • weak

  • Loose Change?...try Loser Change.

  • watch

    911 inside out pilots

  • Hey everyone, let's see if ACEBAKER can back up one of his claims.

    You claimed that Norman Minneta said "I believe in inside job."

    So where is your source troll?

    Everyone watch! This "gutless intellectual coward" will run and hide. Or he'll LIE and say "oh he's in this movie" or "he's on this website."

    Or this piece of shit coward will ignore me, but that's even worse because it proves he's nothing more than a cowardly fuckwit who can't hold his own in a debate.

  • I am asking questions, I want a real investigation.

    Why dont you come forward and confess that you planted bombs in the building? Make sure to bring your handcuffs with you and your jammies.

    Ok, so now your asking the questions. You know what fucktard? I would love it if you would donate your brain to science. I want to compare and see what the difference is between your brain and a hot pile of crap.

  • Love how you were too scared to reply specifically to my comment in the hopes that I wouldn't see it.

    So let's step back. What evidence do you have that is hard evidence, NOT circumstantial, that proves bombs were used in the building.

  • MRGuy, asking for proof before there's even been a proper investigation is not very smart.

  • GOOGLE

    ace baker  911

    911 close up

  • Nah, Ace Baker got intellectually dominated and shown that his no plane theory was shit. He then threatened to commit suicide in an effort to gain attention.

    What a sad pathetic fool.

  • Read the amazing articles up on the site

    911closeup

    you'll then realize that NO PLANES were used

  • Nah, 911 close up OBVIOUSLY doesn't "prove" anything.

    It's all just OPINION based on speculation.

  • This person is a disinformation agent trying to make 9-11 truthers to look looney tunes.

    Do not pay any attention to this fucking asshole

  • The largest growing sect within the 911 truth movement IS the No Plane theory !

    911 CLOSE UP COM

    also google ACE BAKER 911

    watch on here all proving NO planes !

    THEORY OF GHOSTPLANE

    SEPTEMBER CLUES

    911 TABOO

    OCTOPUS 911

    911 INSIDE OUT PILOTS

    There is TONS of info out there proving No planes

  • No you're wrong troll.

    That info OBVIOUSLY doesn't "prove" anything. It's all just SPECULATION

    And those videos promote mindless drivel that only works on the IGNORANT.

  • lol

    I can't tell the difference between you and the other N0 planer guy anymore. Both of you are acting like mindless retarded idiots.

    Oh wait, I forgot that you are a mindless retarded idiot who can't prove his theory. My bad.

  • DUR DE DUR !!!!

    aaaa huiiiik

    no plane therie iz true just lyke the moon iz made of CHEESE !!!

  • What if another investigation comes up with nothing? If they pick over every detail that the truthers have labelled as evidence, and rationally explain each and every thing that they have come up with?

    How much detail must they get into?

    What are the big questions that YOU would like answered by this commission?

  • Google the debate between the makers of Loose Change and Popular Mechanics.

    There are too many questions I want answered to list here. I would be up all night. Sorry.

  • OK then, I will ask three questions, which can be answered briefly.

    1) Who do you believe did this?

    2) How did they do this?

    3) Why did they dothis?

    4) What would you say if they DID a FULL investigation and found no conflict with the official version of the events of that day?

  • 911 was an inside job.

    Thanks to all those patriots that are pointing this out. It is not a crime to ask questions. It is not a crime to investigate a crime. It is a crime to plant bombs in a building and blow it up. NO evidence of a crime should be ingnored!

  • You're right, it's not a crime to ask questions. But you're not really asking questions are you?

    For instance, what hard evidence do you have about bombs being planted in the buildings? And why has no one come forward to say "we planted bombs in the buildings?" And why has no one come forward and said "we killed the bomb planters?" And why has no one come forward saying "We killed the people who killed the bomb planters?"

  • MRGuy, why has no one come forward to tell the story about killing Jimmy Hoffa? Maybe the bomb planters are dead--did that ever occur to you?