@renix Thanks for the comment. Nespresso machines do make decent crema. Please keep in mind Nespresso Machines designed to make espresso with minimum effort (no mess, consistent shots end. etc) But nobody said It's professional espresso machine where you can control everything. When you use Single-Serve Espresso machine you do lose control over process but at same time you will receive decent shot of Espresso.
@aromacup Obviously, I disagree with the "decent" part. I've tried multiple capsules and volumes and only one did not make into the trash immediately. I was edible, but not something I'd pay to drink straight. I do understand the value proposition of convenience, it was not lost on me. There is also a well-documented problem with water volume inconsistency and a brew temp issue.
@renix Nespresso capsules was rated very high by Kenneth Davids who is well known expert (actually authority) in this field and other experts in this field. Please visit his website since I can't post links here. You can disagree and that is totally fine. I do respect your opinion because we all different and like different coffee's. The best part of it you will decide for yourself what is better for you.
@aromacup Yes, it blows my mind at times why KD bothers to review pods and cheapo coffee's with scores as high as 91. Take a look at the comment for the Ristretto review. A 91 review on CR is a good score, but is obviously meaningless when a Nesp. gets the same mark as a correctly made espresso. It's a bit confusing I know. No industry folk or at-home coffee geek types respect Nespresso at all. There's a reason for that, and it's not made up.
@renix If it blow your mind it's totally OK. But please don't speak for other people. Also if you think you know better then David you need to prove it first.
@aromacup "Anyone interested in the very best and freshest espresso with the greatest variety of choice at the most reasonable cost should forget about pods, capsules and discs and learn how to use a good conventional home espresso machine and grinder." - Ken Davids
" Pay someone else to make espresso drinks – if the drinks are good they are worth every penny. This includes bean to cup machines and especially Nespresso machines. Get that thought out of your head!" - James Hoffman (JimSeven)
From Coffee forums: "I am never really sure what to make of CoffeeReviews. Many of the coffees we enjoy from high-quality independent roasters score in the mid-90s, but there are so many 90+ coffees it seems almost meaningless. 90+ K-Cup and Nespresso?"
"in case you believe Kenneth Davids in his review of pods and capsules, and want to switch... Illy capsules (90 points!?! REALLY?),"
"That's what Ken Davids does, giving 91 to nespresso capsule too. *sigh*"
" we all different and like different coffee's" Imagine being served overcooked pasta with sauce from a can. A person who doesn't care will eat it. Someone who loves pasta and sauce will give you the stink eye. You can't tell that person "we all like different pasta!" Yes, we can all like different pasta within the range where it's made correctly, not outside that range. This is why Michelin restaurants cook a certain way and McD's cooks another.
So this is not a case of liking different coffee's. It's knowing what made correctly, and calling it what it is, which is "made incorrectly". There is a standard.
It's not 8.8 or 9..It's whatever setting works for you. 9 is just the most efficient pressure, not always the best. The power of the pump is marketing hype. Most home machines use 15 and market that, so Nesp. badges it like a horsepower rating. Commercial machines never advertise max pressure, coincidence? Nope.
All that being said, I maintain Nespresso's do not make good crema. They make foam with large bubbles. It's very odd. Look at every video you find and it will be pale. Every time. It should be darker with red speckles. And with that being said about crema, crema isn't where the important flavor is anyway :)
@aromacup I also take issue with the "19 bar" business Nespresso uses for marketing hype. You say in the video it "exceeds" the necessary pressure. No one uses anything too far from 9 bars at the basket (or manometer), so 19?! How does that get me anything? Who knows what the actual pressure is in the capsule?
@renix Good point and I do agree with you it's 8.8 or 9 bars. But it's exceeds the necessary pressure right? So here's nothing wrong with it. Here's also one more point why it's 19 bars from Nespresso's website "A Nespresso machine is equipped with a 19-bar pressure pump, which provides the power needed to pierce the film of the capsule and reveal the coffee’s 900 or so different aromas." So it also has something to do with Nespresso machines design.
@aromacup Also, crema does not come from an "air mixture". There should be zero air in the brew process. Air has nothing to do with it. Perhaps you are thinking of steaming milk and thought that crema was made from air bubbles? It is not. It is emulsified oils, etc. etc. Simply research the process.
Hello, nice vid! I have a question, i just purchased one and i am wondering about what must i do when i finish doing a coffee...just turn down the start button or maybe i have to press both buttons and hold them before turn off?
@aromacup Thanks a lot, there was a part on the instructions, "after last coffee" page, that is part of "rinsing" (i noticed this now) and i was pressing both buttons befre turn off the machine XD.
Love your videos. Keep them coming. I would rather watch the videos than read instructions on the machines. Oh, and that cup of espresso looks so delicious! ;O)
ur shaking hahaha cuz of the coffee :)
FJo83 1 month ago
@FJo83 Yeap :)
aromacup 1 month ago
hey guys is your citiz also so loud?...my is vibrating like crazy...i cant use it at night,i am sure my neighbours would suffer...:(
remuspower 1 month ago
@remuspower Nope. It's a little loud but not vibrating. I would call Nespresso. They have great customer service.
aromacup 1 month ago
Do you have to descale this?
KagakuGakusei 2 months ago
@KagakuGakusei Yes you need to descale. You can use Nespresso descaling kit (recommended) or vinegar.
aromacup 2 months ago
@aromacup OK thanks.
KagakuGakusei 2 months ago
Thank you Brian, Nice Demo.
Scuby007 2 months ago
@aromacup Great review Bryan: very clear and well structured explanation! Bravo! And thank you! ;)
le1erpote 3 months ago
@le1erpote On behalf of Brian - Thank you :)
aromacup 3 months ago
I love the nespresso, the closest thing to an italian bar espresso, and I know
dantiri 3 months ago
@dantiri Great. Thank you.
aromacup 3 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Notice the color and consistency of espresso here: /watch?v=baAFdBSN3SM&
I know you are a guy selling pods and such, so no point in mentioning it, but for anyone reading....
renix 5 months ago
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renix 5 months ago
That's not a nice crema there Mr. coffee expert man.
renix 5 months ago
@renix Thanks for the comment. Nespresso machines do make decent crema. Please keep in mind Nespresso Machines designed to make espresso with minimum effort (no mess, consistent shots end. etc) But nobody said It's professional espresso machine where you can control everything. When you use Single-Serve Espresso machine you do lose control over process but at same time you will receive decent shot of Espresso.
aromacup 5 months ago
@aromacup Obviously, I disagree with the "decent" part. I've tried multiple capsules and volumes and only one did not make into the trash immediately. I was edible, but not something I'd pay to drink straight. I do understand the value proposition of convenience, it was not lost on me. There is also a well-documented problem with water volume inconsistency and a brew temp issue.
renix 5 months ago
@renix Nespresso capsules was rated very high by Kenneth Davids who is well known expert (actually authority) in this field and other experts in this field. Please visit his website since I can't post links here. You can disagree and that is totally fine. I do respect your opinion because we all different and like different coffee's. The best part of it you will decide for yourself what is better for you.
aromacup 5 months ago
@aromacup Yes, it blows my mind at times why KD bothers to review pods and cheapo coffee's with scores as high as 91. Take a look at the comment for the Ristretto review. A 91 review on CR is a good score, but is obviously meaningless when a Nesp. gets the same mark as a correctly made espresso. It's a bit confusing I know. No industry folk or at-home coffee geek types respect Nespresso at all. There's a reason for that, and it's not made up.
renix 5 months ago
@renix If it blow your mind it's totally OK. But please don't speak for other people. Also if you think you know better then David you need to prove it first.
aromacup 5 months ago
@aromacup "Anyone interested in the very best and freshest espresso with the greatest variety of choice at the most reasonable cost should forget about pods, capsules and discs and learn how to use a good conventional home espresso machine and grinder." - Ken Davids
" Pay someone else to make espresso drinks – if the drinks are good they are worth every penny. This includes bean to cup machines and especially Nespresso machines. Get that thought out of your head!" - James Hoffman (JimSeven)
renix 5 months ago
From Coffee forums: "I am never really sure what to make of CoffeeReviews. Many of the coffees we enjoy from high-quality independent roasters score in the mid-90s, but there are so many 90+ coffees it seems almost meaningless. 90+ K-Cup and Nespresso?"
"in case you believe Kenneth Davids in his review of pods and capsules, and want to switch... Illy capsules (90 points!?! REALLY?),"
"That's what Ken Davids does, giving 91 to nespresso capsule too. *sigh*"
renix 5 months ago
Another: "Ken Davids thinks the Nespresso is one point better (take with the appropriate sized block of salt lick):"
renix 5 months ago
" we all different and like different coffee's" Imagine being served overcooked pasta with sauce from a can. A person who doesn't care will eat it. Someone who loves pasta and sauce will give you the stink eye. You can't tell that person "we all like different pasta!" Yes, we can all like different pasta within the range where it's made correctly, not outside that range. This is why Michelin restaurants cook a certain way and McD's cooks another.
renix 5 months ago
So this is not a case of liking different coffee's. It's knowing what made correctly, and calling it what it is, which is "made incorrectly". There is a standard.
It's not 8.8 or 9..It's whatever setting works for you. 9 is just the most efficient pressure, not always the best. The power of the pump is marketing hype. Most home machines use 15 and market that, so Nesp. badges it like a horsepower rating. Commercial machines never advertise max pressure, coincidence? Nope.
renix 5 months ago
All that being said, I maintain Nespresso's do not make good crema. They make foam with large bubbles. It's very odd. Look at every video you find and it will be pale. Every time. It should be darker with red speckles. And with that being said about crema, crema isn't where the important flavor is anyway :)
renix 5 months ago
@aromacup I also take issue with the "19 bar" business Nespresso uses for marketing hype. You say in the video it "exceeds" the necessary pressure. No one uses anything too far from 9 bars at the basket (or manometer), so 19?! How does that get me anything? Who knows what the actual pressure is in the capsule?
renix 5 months ago
@renix Good point and I do agree with you it's 8.8 or 9 bars. But it's exceeds the necessary pressure right? So here's nothing wrong with it. Here's also one more point why it's 19 bars from Nespresso's website "A Nespresso machine is equipped with a 19-bar pressure pump, which provides the power needed to pierce the film of the capsule and reveal the coffee’s 900 or so different aromas." So it also has something to do with Nespresso machines design.
aromacup 5 months ago
@aromacup Also, crema does not come from an "air mixture". There should be zero air in the brew process. Air has nothing to do with it. Perhaps you are thinking of steaming milk and thought that crema was made from air bubbles? It is not. It is emulsified oils, etc. etc. Simply research the process.
renix 5 months ago
Hello, nice vid! I have a question, i just purchased one and i am wondering about what must i do when i finish doing a coffee...just turn down the start button or maybe i have to press both buttons and hold them before turn off?
Thank you!
eduki 6 months ago
@eduki If you have Nespresso Citiz it will automatically go to stand my mode after 30 minutes. Or you can use Power Onn/Off switch.
P.S. Enjoy your espresso
aromacup 6 months ago
@aromacup Thanks a lot, there was a part on the instructions, "after last coffee" page, that is part of "rinsing" (i noticed this now) and i was pressing both buttons befre turn off the machine XD.
I can see it now, thanks again!
eduki 6 months ago
@eduki Sure :). Citiz is great machine. I love it myself :).
igordelnorte 6 months ago
very nice
jellyfishslapper 7 months ago
:)
brianbotkiller 9 months ago
Love your videos. Keep them coming. I would rather watch the videos than read instructions on the machines. Oh, and that cup of espresso looks so delicious! ;O)
volgamaid 10 months ago