I'm an atheist, but I will admit that you've provided a literary reconciliation, however ridiculous it may seem. Still, there's thousands of others problems with the Bible that are irreconcilable.
It is difficult for those who do not dig for themselves. The biggest problem I see is that mankind fouled up the story that was given them. They continue to this day in that effort it appears.
@SolomonSeries I think I must have been in one of my moods when I made that statement. I appologise to you and to Jesus for my grumblings. The Holy Bible is the greatest book ever written. I have been in church since i was 15. There was a period when I was in my thirties that I took off and did the prodigal son thing for nine years. I will have to spend some time in prayer about my current attitude. I dont want to start using you tube as a means to jab at God. Its best to discuss these things.
The Gen 5:4 response doesn't work because of one thing: chronology. Cain knew his wife long before Adam had Seth in which later he turned eight hundred years of age and only then had sons and daughters.
As for Cain's wife & incest, I almost always hear the explanations the mosaic law was not yet in effect. But yet when it comes to why Cain's offering was rejected ? Or why did Abraham pay tithes to Melchizedek ? I hear equally as often the law pre-existed Moses. Therefore Cain's offering was rejected because it wasn't a blood sacrifice to atone for sin(s), and tithing has always been effect too (both before and after the law). So if that's true, then how could God allow incest before the law ?
@OldEarthCreationist hello friend I think looking at the perspective of the law befor moses needs to be looked at through a different spectrum of light,befor the LAW was THE WORD,ONE DAY IS AS A THOUSAND YEARS
and that DAY Adam died at 980ish God instructed Adam and Adam his kids,These SONS of God were vertulay spotless in there walk, Almost as good as ENOCH(no law asked for! no law given) but the doctrine of atonement was with them. after Exodus the Israelites CHOSE the law over grace THINK
@Darlatwentythree Hi Brad, How could the "Doctrine of Atonement" be with them ? Because John 1:1 says Christ pre-existed the law ? Well then I ask you the same question over again "Would Christ EVER condone incest" ? But what does 2 Peter 3:8 have to do with anything ? Are you saying since Adam died before a thousand years, he still died "in the day" he sinned ? Well if that's true, then the Creation "days" need not be 24 hours each either. THINK. Don't be a hypocrite. Please be consistent.
@OldEarthCreationist OK Whats the difference between the LAW and the WORD? perhaps the law, is the Word
expressed! "the spoken word" and in Eden after the fall GOD spoke! to man THEN man was alienated from GOD, Seperated! But the Bible says that they were givin sheep skin coats! And hebrews 11 says that by faith Able offered up a Better sacrifice then Cain! so why were they told to offer on their own accord? yea all the creation days are 1000yrs except Gen 1,1 we dont know how long that was!!
@Darlatwentythree I'm sorry Brad. But your thinking is typical of most Christians. Whereas you seem to be incapable of seeing your own double-mindedness. First you say because Christ expressed God's thoughts to the Old Covenant saints prior to Moses, they therefore knew blood was the only atonement for the remission of sins. But then you say incest was condoned because there is no sin where there is no law. But at least you're not a Young Earth Creationist. They're the most double-minded of all.
@OldEarthCreationist Are you deff dumb and blined? you cant atack The WORD jn 10,34,35 so you atack them who stand on the WORD! no law? no sin! romans 3,20/4,15/5,13/7,7 standing on GODS infalible WORD is not double mindedness! Thus saith the LORD I will have mercy apon whom I will have mercy and I will have compassion apon whom i will have compassion! Isaiah. Romans 4 " Blessed is the man on whom the lord will not impute sin. Who art thou to make thy self God? did you not read hebrews 11?
@OldEarthCreationist All your looking for is to Hate the WORD! the WORD demolishes your point of view! condone is a strong word! as though one advocates it, rather then tolorates it. Faith AND Revalation are beyond your comprehention. I plainly say WHAT THE SCRIPTURE SAYS. If you cant see that are you then the double minded person? your thinking is typical of a reprobate mind! so is such men that will withstand the trueth in the last days as our LORD hath said. use the WORD to suport your views.
@Darlatwentythree Dear Brad, I agree. No law. No sin. Which means therefore then that Cain's offering could not possibly have been rejected because it wasn't a blood atonement for sin. But rather because it wasn't from the best of his crops. Whereas Abel did offer the best from his flocks. But, as for your accusation that I hate the WORD, you couldn't be more wrong; or more out of line. However, even though there was no law, do you still think Christ would EVER condone or tolerate incest ?
@OldEarthCreationist Hello friend I can see that this topic is a hot potato for you, and no doubt your Minister! forget WHY GOD rejected Cains offering! the Bible says that he is of that wicked one! As for Incest one can only stand on the WORD Heb,13,8 I think to ask such a question is to make our LORD and Savior a Judge! and he is not. Jn 3,16. he is love and love is long suffering! condone? no! tolerate? yes unto correction! "The law of the LORD IS PERFECT converting the soul" Pslams
Hi Brad, truth is a hot topic for me. Especially Genesis. Because if we don't get that right, then the rest of our interpretations will be skewed. Some alot. Others perhaps only a little. But I don't rely on my Pastor. Because he (like most Christians) cares more about religion than truth. That's why we can't just forget why Cain's offering was rejected. You can suppose God "tolerated" incest "unto correction" if you like. But Heb.13:8 is no proof text for your supposition. In fact the contrary.
It is true that things in Genesis once twisted make everything else askew. One needn't go all the way back to creation to find the errors. Much of the Torah is mis-used and misunderstood. Clearly it did not govern the Kings as it was discovered and "translated" much later by the surprise of Ezra and others. Big confusion exists on the things that could/should have been historically established, yet have not been.
@OldEarthCreationist ok Blood for remission of sins Noah knew, Old Job knew, And Able knew. Peter knew who Jesus Christ was by revalation, by faith heb,11. I know the Godhead is hard to comprehend but a word is a thought expressed! the WORD is GODS thoughts expressed, hence the WORD became
flesh, rev,3,16 Jesus Christ "the begining of the creation of GOD" Would HE therefore condone incest? would he inforce the law where it is not given? romans 3, with out the knowlege of law there can be no sin
Cain was wondering the wilderness as his punishment by God. Adam and Eve's children were not in the wilderness. So to this point the only other thing on earth is the devil. God cast the devil to the earth to were he moved upon his belly.
Genesis of the Grail Kings google... As discovered in previous studies, the Gospel texts which have been in the public domain for centuries often bear little relation to the first-hand accounts of the era to which they relate.
In order to further enhance the historical succession from Cain, he was married to his half-sister, a pure-bred Anunnaki princess called Luluwa. Her father was Enki and her mother was Lilith, a granddaughter of Enlil. Although not giving the name of Cain's wife, the Bible does name their younger son Enoch (Henôch), while the Sumerian records cite his elder son and kingly successor Atûn, who is perhaps better known as King Etâna of Kish.
What an interesting (speculative) assertion. There are a couple of references within this that are referred to in an Urban Myth set (the talmud). Can you direct me to your source? It does not seem accurate along one train of thought, BUT who says it should? Family feuds are often recorded from the perspective of the recorder. Good show.
geez, defending yourself based on your own personal interpretation "he MAY have been... blah blah" not a 100% answer it's pretty clear that 4:17 happened first before 5:4 who's the ignorant now?
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I am hoping he was hunting ignorant people. WATCH OUT! HA! HA!
Nimrod enters into many stories of the past. He may have been a hunter of man OR animals. Despite what preachers say about Cain and Abel, there was never a mandate to sacrifice animals. It was to be the first of the fields. The lineage of Cain may have in theory deviated into carnality (meat).
Your understanding is confused. Notice that "man and woman" are mentioned in the creation sequence before the story of Adam or Eve. It is out of sequence. If you can't see that, then you are blind. If you can and do not recognize it then you are ignorant too.
4:17 when cain knew his wife when he came to nod etc., 5:4 adam and eve begot sons and daughters, its pretty clear that cain knew his wife before adam and eve begot sons and daughter sir please reply to this there was a time conflict, discrepancy i respect your answer i only seek knowledge ^_^
Are you that dense? Your question answers your question. The book is written out of sequence. It is a collection of stories to reveal different aspects of the detail. The descriptions of events give depth. It is not a chronology as your question demonstrates. Are you pretending to be stupid or are you really?
"caine & sister, boom its done!", "come to church with me now"
INCORRECT
All they wrote was "he had sons & daughters!" you assumed an answer from this statement..
TRUTH ---->
God was a man & a woman at once. That is how he created adam and eve without having a partner for himself.. Proof is the statue of the God/pharoe that build the pyramids..
Check it... a man with breasts built them called ----> Hemium
what! "their was no law back then" so you are saying that it was o.k to fuck your brother & sister and raise kids!!!
This Bible just gets worse!!! so lets say they did bring in a law after caine and ables kids grew up......... guess who is the only people they have to sleep with still is ?
(EVEN WITH THE "LAWS THEY STILL ONLY HAD FAMILY TO RECREATE WITH)
So then they were then always breaking the law forever after it was made??
You miss the point of the rib! How many ribs did Cain and Abel have? Same as Adam? Same as Adam before or after the removal............All I need to demonstrate is one possibility. I have now given two AT LEAST>
yeah exept even if adam and eve had heaps!! of sons and daughters then the only way life can go further is if they have sex with thier mum, dad, brothers or their sisters..
It looks like your shift key keeps sticking just like that chip you carry on your shoulder. You and I might agree if you could stop your religious bend towards hatred. If you will watch all the videos you will see that I indeed prove that past teachings are fouled, yet fools such as you attack the Bible because of bad Bible teachers. Address the teachers, but leave the Text out until it is accurately revealed.
god is supposedly against homos but he has ZERO problems with a dude nailing his sister to procreate the species.
in fact god is apprently a fan of incest and jesus lineage is chock full of it. abraham married his sister and lot nailed both of his daughters AFTER the species had already expanded.
anf why is it that god suddenly changed his mind (like the bible SOMETIMES says he doesn't_) about incest and why didn't he just give the laws earlier?
Your question is a good one. You are duped in to comparing "doctrine" and the ideas of God which likely have nothing to do with one another. People rarely examine the Bible, but rather compare what man has said about it. There are obvious flaws in what has been taught and what is actual. We are preparing to release a video series that addresses the frailties of churhc doctrine with what the Bible records and what is likely more closely aligned.
alright i will accept your rhetoric for what it is at the moment. keep in mind that my preacher said many of the same things to me about 5 years ago. ( before he died of heart failure)
by gods own PERFECT law, picking up sticks on the sabbath (or hitting your parents) is worthy of death while raping a woman is worth 50 shekels (and marrying her maybe)
how can ANYBODY adore a god that puts the sabbath day OVER a womans rights?
It is odd (and a bit funny) that YOUR rhetoric is based on what was said by a dead preacher.Problem is that you listen with preconceived notions and ill thought concepts of right and wrong.Picking up sticks is RELIGION!Are you following religion or God?You complain about RELIGION, yet you haven't a clue the difference.Why not search for my definition of religion video?Are you adoring a god or complaining about man created doctinal disputes? Doesn't the Bible teach AGAINST The traditions of man?
my rhetoric is based COMPLETELY on the bible and how sadistic god is in it. you mentioned the difference between what god thinks and what is taught while i pulled DIRECTLY from gods thoughts (bible)
i mention that god thinks worse of stick gathering than rape and you give me a cheap line. its clear cut in the bible that god LOVES infanticade, human sacrifice, and just plain old muder for no reason other than they deserved it
how is that in ANY way justifiable by your logic? cuz hes god?
The Bible has many perspectives, not just the ones cited by the preachers (most of them quote from a vantage point that favors their ideas). Much as you do folks jump on a point be it major or minor and it really reveals more what is in the HEART and mind of the reader than anything else. The Bible is a mirror of the heart and soul. It reflects the person holding it. What do you see?
what kind of Truth is that? i don't read "math for beginners" or aristotle and come away with 10,000 different interpretations.
the bible is a mirror of the heart and soul? well i say the quran or book of mormon is the same thing, what do you see? i could use the same logic for ted haggard, kent hovind, jim baker, or other liars in the pulpit.
sorry dude but that line is nothing more than posturing that only works on sheep. and you still didn't address the other points i made
i'm trying to give the guy the benefit of the doubt but judging from how your discussion went south i don't think i will have much more luck than you had....
haha true, but i am more concerned with the shepherds myself. because its the shepherds that keep the flock in line.
and didn't they sacrifice and eat lambs, so the shepherd is REALLY no better than the wolf and in reality they lamb is better of just wondering around and hopefully not finding any wolves or cliffs to leap from?
Ever notice how all of their shepherds live like kings? The ones at the top have power and every comfort money can buy, while the flock does all the sacrificing to get into heaven. We all know where the power and money comes from. The shepherds are sucking the marrow from their bones. You would think even dumb sheep would have caught on by now.
I am content to wander free, so far I have been smart enough to avoid the shepherds, the wolves and the cliffs.
haha so very true. i wonder how humble any of the people in these videos live? these preachers really are no better than the very SAME pharisees that jesus was against
good luck explaining that however, cuz we prolly just don't understand the original hebrew or the septuigent or something else
Dead languages are very convenient things to have around it seems, you can claim they say anything and 99% of people will never know the difference. It makes it so much easier to change the story when the dupes catch on. OH! and if the dupes manage to learn the dead language, then you can just tell them that they learned it from an uninformed source and that a whole new understanding of the language has come to light since you erroneously acquired it.
indeed. you would think that an all-knowing and wise holy spirit would guide the authors to use more reliable language since it already knew that jesus was lying about his imminent return and that thee world would continue for thousands of years
also i think the authors of the epistles KNEW this and used more THEORIES to explain his absense. what i don't understand is why the early church just didn't make up even more stuff to make it absolutely uncertain of jesus divinity
Exactly! The whole story of the birth of Jesus centers around the fact that Mary and Joesph were traveling to Bethlehem to be counted in the census and pay their taxes. The fact that every person, every calf and bag of wheat was accounted for as evidenced by the amount of records that survived from that time, surely they would have at least tried to fabricate an identity for him. Those were some record keeping, scribing mofos back then, half of Egypt was on payroll, yet none ever mentioned JC
i've read some stuff that suggested that there never was any censuses taken in israel at the time. furthermore you'd figure that they could at least get the data from the time period right, like with who was ruling at the time of his birth.
it just seems like a TON of faith required to believe in this bible, especially when you consider that they require so much evidence for stuff they disagree with like evolution and the age of the planet
oh yea, there were tons of material found around that area. 15,000 tables found in Elba alone. Egyptians were so worried about immortality and legacy that they wrote what they ate for breakfast! All the civilizations around there either traded or fought or just passed through migrating to somewhere else so they had records of that too. But none of them ever saw anything biblical. Moses was kinda big deal, but no one else saw him either. Egyptians would have mentioned him I'm sure.
the bible says that there were about 600,000 fighting men. an estimate of the total population was 2- 2.5 MILLION people ( half the population of egypt) marching 10 abreast. that is was a VERY long line and would have taken 5 days to cross any point on the land. CERTAINLY theres evidence of 2.5 million people marching around the desert
i've also read that MAYBE they interpreted it wrong and the number was about 20,000 ...... but that would mean the bible ( and therefore god) made a mistake
also i think that we may be the wolves, or at least i am... i think? all this metaphorical v literal stuff has me a lil confused ,maybe i should ask solomon for a biblical theory hahaha
furthermore what the hell kind of comment is " its funny..rhetoric...dead preacher"
isn't that just a tad insensitive? a man is dead and you used him in some spiteful attack on my rhetoric, is that the love of jesus in action?
the comment mkaes no sense anyways because the rhetoric i was refering to was your 1 liner about "taught v actual" that he used as well to justify the evil stuff in the bible. so basically you just insulted YOURSELF and a dead preacher
Don't worry about it, they all think that we are to stupid to understand what we read. We read it, we understood it and we recognized it for the bullshit that it is and they can't stand that because it means some of us cannot be lied to and controlled any longer.
also in reply to you calling me ignorant...If I said the same about any other writtings you wouldnt call me ignorant. yould probaly even agree! but strong is the need to defend somthing when you base your life on it.
It is okay if you do not read well. It is also okay if you have preconceived convictions in error. You are subject to the same error as the "Christians" you say follow blindly in faith. You just have faith in the other direction. It is not "clear" as you state. In fact, Adam was 130 when he had Seth, and that gives well over 100 years for a wide array of things to happen. You overlook that the entire section of text is out of sequence, like an old man telling stories with diversions.
No, God used old men. The story is not in sequence by design. It is fairly easy to understand, but heretics challenge the church mythology and fail to read the Text itself. The text was written in day time and style that required the minute parts of the story to be told out of sequence. A reasonable person could understand that. An unreasonable person would expect abnormally chronological writing of a massive text set on sheet skins. Which is more difficult to understand?
What lies? Are you aware that the Bible gives examples of BOTH good and bad? Most folks do not read the whole story and then they fail to realize their "religion" is flawed. Just like your religion of hatred and mythology. You have failed as did the church fathers and those who caused the terrible crimes in the Bible. The book is still revealing the evil in you, and you are dumb enough to share it with others.
If you read the Bible you would understand that your ignorance is nearly perfect. Your retort is simple, but inaccurate. Your perspective is as twisted as the perspective of Christians who fail to read their Bibles. You are equally at fault in ignorance.
After watching I went back and read the relevent part, and it confirmed my understandin that it makes it very clear that Adam and Eve had their other children after Cain "knew his wife"
If this is the true word of God a man with the knowledge and know how Id really expect it to be a bit better than this garbage.
It is okay if you do not read well. It is also okay if you have preconceived convictions in error. You are subject to the same error as the "Christians" you say follow blindly in faith. You just have faith in the other direction. It is not "clear" as you state. In fact, Adam was 130 when he had Seth, and that gives well over 100 years for a wide array of things to happen. You overlook that the entire section of text is out of sequence, like an old man telling stories with diversions.
There was NO Adam!!!!! it is a bullshit story told to ignorant savages by even more savage idiots!!!!! Get it through your head, none of it ever happened, it is just stories, it is not history and it is not even good stories! If you just have to read stories written a long time ago, read ancient Greek literature, the stories are much better written.
Greek literature (ancient) stems from the lost tribes. The stories nearly replicate the traditions of the Bible in instances because the Greeks find their roots in the Bible. You are sadly confused, duped by traditions of pagans and preachers. Your ignorance is only exceeded by your zeal to challenge from a point of weakness. You are not well educated. You are a hard liner taking a strong stance against weakly equipped mythologists. Why not step to the middle and explore without the zeal?
"why not step in the middle and explore without the zeal"
indeed. great advice for anybody seeking the truth
for example you have given me NOTHING but pointless rhetoric for every question i've posed.
i pick DIRECTLY from the bible that god thinks worse of picking up sticks on sabbath than raping a woman, an explaination? i mention that god has no problem with child murdering and you give me rhetoric
can i get a actual answer to why a god worth worshipping would do these things?
Site the verse you are using, so I can address it and I will. I thought that your messages were senseless hatred, as they were laced with both. Point to the scripture and verse and maybe we can discuss it. If I site one that you are not looking at then it adds confusion. Share the specific rape verse that you are hung up on. There is BOTH sides of every argument in the Text. You are choosing one, so be specific. I do not expect you to embrace the god that has been shared with you.
duet. is clear, you ONLY die if you rape a married woman. but if you rape an unmarried woman the you pay her dad 50 shekels and marry her. its a damn good thing our government wasn't founded on these morals becuase this is absolutely disgusting law handed down from god himself, gods PERFECT law
why would a loving god give such laws to even a primitive people? lets not forget that any such law in the quran would be unequivically evil
I understand the Koran very well. I note you are using that as a shield or distraction to stir more religious sentiment. Not a problem. (Only yours). Which version or translation of the Bible are you using? There are versions before the Hebrew that you may not be aware of. Which one do you use so I can use the same Text that has confused you thus far?
nah its not a shield dude, thats what your doing by constantly resorting to ad hominom in an effort to refuse me intellectual repsect. it amatuer and nothing more than a salesman tactic.
its prideful, spiteful BS that i would expect a christian to be against. so why don't we all stick to the issues here and somewhat get along?
AH more intricacies to gods perfect and simple word eh? well lets go with KJV, NIV it doesn't matter to me, you choose
Think about the nasty old dudes who wrote the Bible, they were using their womenfolk as currency. Buying, selling, trading them, using them to get into influential families, for peace offerings etc. It was part of their perfect plan to make sure that Jewish women did not get uppity and rebelling the way the Greek, Roman, Spartan women were getting at the time. They could not risk losing the income that twat was bringing in. They couldn't get top shekel for used twat, so they invented the law.
Don't forget that in the Quran raped women are put to death. The 4 wittiness rule insures that no woman would ever tell, thus perfect protection for rapists. Equally evil.
indeed and that if a woman doesn't scream loudly enough while being raped then she gets put to death as well according to the dueteronomy passages i just mentioned.
and apparently they felt the need to make sure that ALL manner of rape is discussed, whether its in the city, a field, or outside the gate. because of course it matters when and where they are raped to the loving and perfect christian god
Well yea, what do you expect, Mohammad's first wife hired a Christian tutor for him years earlier and he remembered the stories as best he could while he was plotting his own hoax for world domination and ultimate control of twat, while he was at it. Quiet a few hadith about women getting uppity and thinking they were human again... couldn't have that!
You are the most ignorant one here, you argue for a truth that never existed even long after it has been proven false. The Bible is garbage, nothing more than a weakly strung fabric of myths and legends stolen from ancient civilizations. You are the one who has been duped, played the fool by the very ones who perpetuated this hoax on humanity. The old bastards probably started it shortly after seeing Lysistrata, judging by their hatred for women.
My hateful friend (see above). You are a religious zealot, merely you have taken on a religion to refute religion. You are a lost and confused inDUHvidual. I asked a simple question as to which form of the Text you are using and you cannot answer civilly. One would think that this is your moment to shine, but rather you feel a superior answer is coming to address your mystic beliefs. I would operate in fear if I was you as well. Remain in the dark (dork) if you want. What translation?
you have been insulting dissentors this entire time and then you complain about him answering civilly?
again this can't be the christian humbleness, love and compassion that preachers talk about at the end of sermons? are you REALLY a christian or a plant just acting like one?
i understand that you are getting tough criticism and a less-than-loving responses but i gave you no such thing you you responded with it anyways, why?
what this guys in the video fails to reconise is: It states after the Cain and Abel debarkel Adam has more sons and daughters. bringing us right back to the question! maybe the answer is that it dosnt make sense, there is no right answer. And copulating with a sister? hyocritical dont you say? another bibloe joke.
It is interesting how you read and manipulate the text. The Bible DOES NOT say that. Seth the 3rd son is mentioned as well as sons and daughters, but the story is clearly told out of sequence. THAT sequencing confusion is part of the answer. It is simple to demonstrate the sequence. Man and woman are mentioned in the days of creation before the story of Adam and Eve. It is a writing style. Our reading style often overlooks this. It never says he slept with his sister or his mother.
Thanks for commenting. These videos and those of this type which point people back to the Bible tend to get some pretty caustic replies. Often folks are not seeking, merely throwing rocks. I haven't have a half dozen folks challenge any of our videos from a fact basis. They merely challenge from hearsay. They challenge these videos (Cain and Abel) but often refuse to read what the Bible says. Odd, how the Gospel stirs people for good and bad.
Bible is not written by God, it is the serial books written by man.
jc8861 3 months ago
I'm an atheist, but I will admit that you've provided a literary reconciliation, however ridiculous it may seem. Still, there's thousands of others problems with the Bible that are irreconcilable.
NostalgicBreed 4 months ago
I really think that god could have done a lot better job of writing the Bible
BADDOOKUS 5 months ago 2
@BADDOOKUS
It is difficult for those who do not dig for themselves. The biggest problem I see is that mankind fouled up the story that was given them. They continue to this day in that effort it appears.
SolomonSeries 5 months ago
@SolomonSeries I think I must have been in one of my moods when I made that statement. I appologise to you and to Jesus for my grumblings. The Holy Bible is the greatest book ever written. I have been in church since i was 15. There was a period when I was in my thirties that I took off and did the prodigal son thing for nine years. I will have to spend some time in prayer about my current attitude. I dont want to start using you tube as a means to jab at God. Its best to discuss these things.
BADDOOKUS 5 months ago
So u just wasted my time and u didn't provide an answer.
cmpresents 9 months ago
You are welcome!
SolomonSeries 9 months ago
The Gen 5:4 response doesn't work because of one thing: chronology. Cain knew his wife long before Adam had Seth in which later he turned eight hundred years of age and only then had sons and daughters.
poolerboy0077 11 months ago
As for Cain's wife & incest, I almost always hear the explanations the mosaic law was not yet in effect. But yet when it comes to why Cain's offering was rejected ? Or why did Abraham pay tithes to Melchizedek ? I hear equally as often the law pre-existed Moses. Therefore Cain's offering was rejected because it wasn't a blood sacrifice to atone for sin(s), and tithing has always been effect too (both before and after the law). So if that's true, then how could God allow incest before the law ?
OldEarthCreationist 1 year ago
@OldEarthCreationist hello friend I think looking at the perspective of the law befor moses needs to be looked at through a different spectrum of light,befor the LAW was THE WORD,ONE DAY IS AS A THOUSAND YEARS
and that DAY Adam died at 980ish God instructed Adam and Adam his kids,These SONS of God were vertulay spotless in there walk, Almost as good as ENOCH(no law asked for! no law given) but the doctrine of atonement was with them. after Exodus the Israelites CHOSE the law over grace THINK
Darlatwentythree 1 year ago
@Darlatwentythree Hi Brad, How could the "Doctrine of Atonement" be with them ? Because John 1:1 says Christ pre-existed the law ? Well then I ask you the same question over again "Would Christ EVER condone incest" ? But what does 2 Peter 3:8 have to do with anything ? Are you saying since Adam died before a thousand years, he still died "in the day" he sinned ? Well if that's true, then the Creation "days" need not be 24 hours each either. THINK. Don't be a hypocrite. Please be consistent.
OldEarthCreationist 1 year ago
@OldEarthCreationist OK Whats the difference between the LAW and the WORD? perhaps the law, is the Word
expressed! "the spoken word" and in Eden after the fall GOD spoke! to man THEN man was alienated from GOD, Seperated! But the Bible says that they were givin sheep skin coats! And hebrews 11 says that by faith Able offered up a Better sacrifice then Cain! so why were they told to offer on their own accord? yea all the creation days are 1000yrs except Gen 1,1 we dont know how long that was!!
Darlatwentythree 11 months ago
@Darlatwentythree I'm sorry Brad. But your thinking is typical of most Christians. Whereas you seem to be incapable of seeing your own double-mindedness. First you say because Christ expressed God's thoughts to the Old Covenant saints prior to Moses, they therefore knew blood was the only atonement for the remission of sins. But then you say incest was condoned because there is no sin where there is no law. But at least you're not a Young Earth Creationist. They're the most double-minded of all.
OldEarthCreationist 11 months ago
@OldEarthCreationist Are you deff dumb and blined? you cant atack The WORD jn 10,34,35 so you atack them who stand on the WORD! no law? no sin! romans 3,20/4,15/5,13/7,7 standing on GODS infalible WORD is not double mindedness! Thus saith the LORD I will have mercy apon whom I will have mercy and I will have compassion apon whom i will have compassion! Isaiah. Romans 4 " Blessed is the man on whom the lord will not impute sin. Who art thou to make thy self God? did you not read hebrews 11?
Darlatwentythree 11 months ago
@OldEarthCreationist All your looking for is to Hate the WORD! the WORD demolishes your point of view! condone is a strong word! as though one advocates it, rather then tolorates it. Faith AND Revalation are beyond your comprehention. I plainly say WHAT THE SCRIPTURE SAYS. If you cant see that are you then the double minded person? your thinking is typical of a reprobate mind! so is such men that will withstand the trueth in the last days as our LORD hath said. use the WORD to suport your views.
Darlatwentythree 11 months ago
@Darlatwentythree Dear Brad, I agree. No law. No sin. Which means therefore then that Cain's offering could not possibly have been rejected because it wasn't a blood atonement for sin. But rather because it wasn't from the best of his crops. Whereas Abel did offer the best from his flocks. But, as for your accusation that I hate the WORD, you couldn't be more wrong; or more out of line. However, even though there was no law, do you still think Christ would EVER condone or tolerate incest ?
OldEarthCreationist 11 months ago
@OldEarthCreationist Hello friend I can see that this topic is a hot potato for you, and no doubt your Minister! forget WHY GOD rejected Cains offering! the Bible says that he is of that wicked one! As for Incest one can only stand on the WORD Heb,13,8 I think to ask such a question is to make our LORD and Savior a Judge! and he is not. Jn 3,16. he is love and love is long suffering! condone? no! tolerate? yes unto correction! "The law of the LORD IS PERFECT converting the soul" Pslams
Darlatwentythree 11 months ago
Hi Brad, truth is a hot topic for me. Especially Genesis. Because if we don't get that right, then the rest of our interpretations will be skewed. Some alot. Others perhaps only a little. But I don't rely on my Pastor. Because he (like most Christians) cares more about religion than truth. That's why we can't just forget why Cain's offering was rejected. You can suppose God "tolerated" incest "unto correction" if you like. But Heb.13:8 is no proof text for your supposition. In fact the contrary.
OldEarthCreationist 11 months ago
@OldEarthCreationist
It is true that things in Genesis once twisted make everything else askew. One needn't go all the way back to creation to find the errors. Much of the Torah is mis-used and misunderstood. Clearly it did not govern the Kings as it was discovered and "translated" much later by the surprise of Ezra and others. Big confusion exists on the things that could/should have been historically established, yet have not been.
SolomonSeries 5 months ago
@OldEarthCreationist ok Blood for remission of sins Noah knew, Old Job knew, And Able knew. Peter knew who Jesus Christ was by revalation, by faith heb,11. I know the Godhead is hard to comprehend but a word is a thought expressed! the WORD is GODS thoughts expressed, hence the WORD became
flesh, rev,3,16 Jesus Christ "the begining of the creation of GOD" Would HE therefore condone incest? would he inforce the law where it is not given? romans 3, with out the knowlege of law there can be no sin
Darlatwentythree 11 months ago
Cain was wondering the wilderness as his punishment by God. Adam and Eve's children were not in the wilderness. So to this point the only other thing on earth is the devil. God cast the devil to the earth to were he moved upon his belly.
AftermathOmega 1 year ago
Genesis of the Grail Kings google... As discovered in previous studies, the Gospel texts which have been in the public domain for centuries often bear little relation to the first-hand accounts of the era to which they relate.
huggmeok 2 years ago
In order to further enhance the historical succession from Cain, he was married to his half-sister, a pure-bred Anunnaki princess called Luluwa. Her father was Enki and her mother was Lilith, a granddaughter of Enlil. Although not giving the name of Cain's wife, the Bible does name their younger son Enoch (Henôch), while the Sumerian records cite his elder son and kingly successor Atûn, who is perhaps better known as King Etâna of Kish.
huggmeok 2 years ago
What an interesting (speculative) assertion. There are a couple of references within this that are referred to in an Urban Myth set (the talmud). Can you direct me to your source? It does not seem accurate along one train of thought, BUT who says it should? Family feuds are often recorded from the perspective of the recorder. Good show.
SolomonSeries 2 years ago
geez, defending yourself based on your own personal interpretation "he MAY have been... blah blah" not a 100% answer it's pretty clear that 4:17 happened first before 5:4 who's the ignorant now?
valsotto27 2 years ago
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SolomonSeries 2 years ago
im curious about this guy Nimrod the might hunter of what?
valsotto27 2 years ago
I am hoping he was hunting ignorant people. WATCH OUT! HA! HA!
Nimrod enters into many stories of the past. He may have been a hunter of man OR animals. Despite what preachers say about Cain and Abel, there was never a mandate to sacrifice animals. It was to be the first of the fields. The lineage of Cain may have in theory deviated into carnality (meat).
SolomonSeries 2 years ago
those two possibilities were null and void considering time intervals
valsotto27 2 years ago
Your understanding is confused. Notice that "man and woman" are mentioned in the creation sequence before the story of Adam or Eve. It is out of sequence. If you can't see that, then you are blind. If you can and do not recognize it then you are ignorant too.
SolomonSeries 2 years ago
4:17 when cain knew his wife when he came to nod etc., 5:4 adam and eve begot sons and daughters, its pretty clear that cain knew his wife before adam and eve begot sons and daughter sir please reply to this there was a time conflict, discrepancy i respect your answer i only seek knowledge ^_^
valsotto27 2 years ago
Are you that dense? Your question answers your question. The book is written out of sequence. It is a collection of stories to reveal different aspects of the detail. The descriptions of events give depth. It is not a chronology as your question demonstrates. Are you pretending to be stupid or are you really?
SolomonSeries 2 years ago
"caine & sister, boom its done!", "come to church with me now"
INCORRECT
All they wrote was "he had sons & daughters!" you assumed an answer from this statement..
TRUTH ---->
God was a man & a woman at once. That is how he created adam and eve without having a partner for himself.. Proof is the statue of the God/pharoe that build the pyramids..
Check it... a man with breasts built them called ----> Hemium
He was just 1 god and not the1st...
THE1BIGQUESTION 2 years ago
You missed the point! You are now spreading your own idea/speculation.
SolomonSeries 2 years ago
you tried to draw a simple family tree from god yet? &)
THE1BIGQUESTION 2 years ago
what! "their was no law back then" so you are saying that it was o.k to fuck your brother & sister and raise kids!!!
This Bible just gets worse!!! so lets say they did bring in a law after caine and ables kids grew up......... guess who is the only people they have to sleep with still is ?
(EVEN WITH THE "LAWS THEY STILL ONLY HAD FAMILY TO RECREATE WITH)
So then they were then always breaking the law forever after it was made??
YOU ARE IN A LOOP
THE1BIGQUESTION 2 years ago
You miss the point of the rib! How many ribs did Cain and Abel have? Same as Adam? Same as Adam before or after the removal............All I need to demonstrate is one possibility. I have now given two AT LEAST>
SolomonSeries 2 years ago
So if me and my brother take out a few ribs each now, we can make a person thats alive with the pieces of our bones??
hmm
I dont think so
So far your 2 possibilitys are 1: Cain & Ables kids slept with there brothers & sisters or parents.
or 2
We can build a people out of 2 or 3 ribs...
this is whacked
THE1BIGQUESTION 2 years ago
"Cloning" ever heard there term?
Maheekun 2 years ago
yeah exept even if adam and eve had heaps!! of sons and daughters then the only way life can go further is if they have sex with thier mum, dad, brothers or their sisters..
Its still f**ked up man..
hmm
THE1BIGQUESTION 2 years ago
genesis or genISIS, arent you whites tired of lying and plagiarism. almost all stories of HO LIE bible have roots in ancient egypt, fools
NaaBegNoFriend 2 years ago
It looks like your shift key keeps sticking just like that chip you carry on your shoulder. You and I might agree if you could stop your religious bend towards hatred. If you will watch all the videos you will see that I indeed prove that past teachings are fouled, yet fools such as you attack the Bible because of bad Bible teachers. Address the teachers, but leave the Text out until it is accurately revealed.
SolomonSeries 2 years ago
HAHAHAHAHAHA
god is supposedly against homos but he has ZERO problems with a dude nailing his sister to procreate the species.
in fact god is apprently a fan of incest and jesus lineage is chock full of it. abraham married his sister and lot nailed both of his daughters AFTER the species had already expanded.
anf why is it that god suddenly changed his mind (like the bible SOMETIMES says he doesn't_) about incest and why didn't he just give the laws earlier?
it takes faith indeed
theeyeisblind 2 years ago
Your question is a good one. You are duped in to comparing "doctrine" and the ideas of God which likely have nothing to do with one another. People rarely examine the Bible, but rather compare what man has said about it. There are obvious flaws in what has been taught and what is actual. We are preparing to release a video series that addresses the frailties of churhc doctrine with what the Bible records and what is likely more closely aligned.
SolomonSeries 2 years ago
alright i will accept your rhetoric for what it is at the moment. keep in mind that my preacher said many of the same things to me about 5 years ago. ( before he died of heart failure)
by gods own PERFECT law, picking up sticks on the sabbath (or hitting your parents) is worthy of death while raping a woman is worth 50 shekels (and marrying her maybe)
how can ANYBODY adore a god that puts the sabbath day OVER a womans rights?
theeyeisblind 2 years ago
It is odd (and a bit funny) that YOUR rhetoric is based on what was said by a dead preacher.Problem is that you listen with preconceived notions and ill thought concepts of right and wrong.Picking up sticks is RELIGION!Are you following religion or God?You complain about RELIGION, yet you haven't a clue the difference.Why not search for my definition of religion video?Are you adoring a god or complaining about man created doctinal disputes? Doesn't the Bible teach AGAINST The traditions of man?
SolomonSeries 2 years ago
my rhetoric is based COMPLETELY on the bible and how sadistic god is in it. you mentioned the difference between what god thinks and what is taught while i pulled DIRECTLY from gods thoughts (bible)
i mention that god thinks worse of stick gathering than rape and you give me a cheap line. its clear cut in the bible that god LOVES infanticade, human sacrifice, and just plain old muder for no reason other than they deserved it
how is that in ANY way justifiable by your logic? cuz hes god?
theeyeisblind 2 years ago
The Bible has many perspectives, not just the ones cited by the preachers (most of them quote from a vantage point that favors their ideas). Much as you do folks jump on a point be it major or minor and it really reveals more what is in the HEART and mind of the reader than anything else. The Bible is a mirror of the heart and soul. It reflects the person holding it. What do you see?
SolomonSeries 2 years ago
what kind of Truth is that? i don't read "math for beginners" or aristotle and come away with 10,000 different interpretations.
the bible is a mirror of the heart and soul? well i say the quran or book of mormon is the same thing, what do you see? i could use the same logic for ted haggard, kent hovind, jim baker, or other liars in the pulpit.
sorry dude but that line is nothing more than posturing that only works on sheep. and you still didn't address the other points i made
theeyeisblind 2 years ago
Theeyeisblind,
He is not going to do anything but insult because he hasn't a leg to stand on, you and I both know it.
This would be really funny if religion were not so dangerous and detrimental to intellect and humanity. Who is going to protect us from the sheep?
ReligionIsSophistry 2 years ago
i'm trying to give the guy the benefit of the doubt but judging from how your discussion went south i don't think i will have much more luck than you had....
haha true, but i am more concerned with the shepherds myself. because its the shepherds that keep the flock in line.
and didn't they sacrifice and eat lambs, so the shepherd is REALLY no better than the wolf and in reality they lamb is better of just wondering around and hopefully not finding any wolves or cliffs to leap from?
theeyeisblind 2 years ago
Ever notice how all of their shepherds live like kings? The ones at the top have power and every comfort money can buy, while the flock does all the sacrificing to get into heaven. We all know where the power and money comes from. The shepherds are sucking the marrow from their bones. You would think even dumb sheep would have caught on by now.
I am content to wander free, so far I have been smart enough to avoid the shepherds, the wolves and the cliffs.
ReligionIsSophistry 2 years ago
haha so very true. i wonder how humble any of the people in these videos live? these preachers really are no better than the very SAME pharisees that jesus was against
good luck explaining that however, cuz we prolly just don't understand the original hebrew or the septuigent or something else
theeyeisblind 2 years ago
Dead languages are very convenient things to have around it seems, you can claim they say anything and 99% of people will never know the difference. It makes it so much easier to change the story when the dupes catch on. OH! and if the dupes manage to learn the dead language, then you can just tell them that they learned it from an uninformed source and that a whole new understanding of the language has come to light since you erroneously acquired it.
ReligionIsSophistry 2 years ago
indeed. you would think that an all-knowing and wise holy spirit would guide the authors to use more reliable language since it already knew that jesus was lying about his imminent return and that thee world would continue for thousands of years
also i think the authors of the epistles KNEW this and used more THEORIES to explain his absense. what i don't understand is why the early church just didn't make up even more stuff to make it absolutely uncertain of jesus divinity
theeyeisblind 2 years ago
Exactly! The whole story of the birth of Jesus centers around the fact that Mary and Joesph were traveling to Bethlehem to be counted in the census and pay their taxes. The fact that every person, every calf and bag of wheat was accounted for as evidenced by the amount of records that survived from that time, surely they would have at least tried to fabricate an identity for him. Those were some record keeping, scribing mofos back then, half of Egypt was on payroll, yet none ever mentioned JC
ReligionIsSophistry 2 years ago
i've read some stuff that suggested that there never was any censuses taken in israel at the time. furthermore you'd figure that they could at least get the data from the time period right, like with who was ruling at the time of his birth.
it just seems like a TON of faith required to believe in this bible, especially when you consider that they require so much evidence for stuff they disagree with like evolution and the age of the planet
theeyeisblind 2 years ago
oh yea, there were tons of material found around that area. 15,000 tables found in Elba alone. Egyptians were so worried about immortality and legacy that they wrote what they ate for breakfast! All the civilizations around there either traded or fought or just passed through migrating to somewhere else so they had records of that too. But none of them ever saw anything biblical. Moses was kinda big deal, but no one else saw him either. Egyptians would have mentioned him I'm sure.
ReligionIsSophistry 2 years ago
the bible says that there were about 600,000 fighting men. an estimate of the total population was 2- 2.5 MILLION people ( half the population of egypt) marching 10 abreast. that is was a VERY long line and would have taken 5 days to cross any point on the land. CERTAINLY theres evidence of 2.5 million people marching around the desert
i've also read that MAYBE they interpreted it wrong and the number was about 20,000 ...... but that would mean the bible ( and therefore god) made a mistake
theeyeisblind 2 years ago
also i think that we may be the wolves, or at least i am... i think? all this metaphorical v literal stuff has me a lil confused ,maybe i should ask solomon for a biblical theory hahaha
theeyeisblind 2 years ago
(2nd reply)
furthermore what the hell kind of comment is " its funny..rhetoric...dead preacher"
isn't that just a tad insensitive? a man is dead and you used him in some spiteful attack on my rhetoric, is that the love of jesus in action?
the comment mkaes no sense anyways because the rhetoric i was refering to was your 1 liner about "taught v actual" that he used as well to justify the evil stuff in the bible. so basically you just insulted YOURSELF and a dead preacher
theeyeisblind 2 years ago
Don't worry about it, they all think that we are to stupid to understand what we read. We read it, we understood it and we recognized it for the bullshit that it is and they can't stand that because it means some of us cannot be lied to and controlled any longer.
ReligionIsSophistry 2 years ago
also in reply to you calling me ignorant...If I said the same about any other writtings you wouldnt call me ignorant. yould probaly even agree! but strong is the need to defend somthing when you base your life on it.
DanielThomasVideos 2 years ago
It is okay if you do not read well. It is also okay if you have preconceived convictions in error. You are subject to the same error as the "Christians" you say follow blindly in faith. You just have faith in the other direction. It is not "clear" as you state. In fact, Adam was 130 when he had Seth, and that gives well over 100 years for a wide array of things to happen. You overlook that the entire section of text is out of sequence, like an old man telling stories with diversions.
SolomonSeries 2 years ago
Out of sequence? was God on drugs that day?
Why not accept it for the iron age mythology it is? and base your beliefs on evidence
DanielThomasVideos 2 years ago
No, God used old men. The story is not in sequence by design. It is fairly easy to understand, but heretics challenge the church mythology and fail to read the Text itself. The text was written in day time and style that required the minute parts of the story to be told out of sequence. A reasonable person could understand that. An unreasonable person would expect abnormally chronological writing of a massive text set on sheet skins. Which is more difficult to understand?
SolomonSeries 2 years ago
A reasonable person would recognize that it was crap and that anything that took that many lies to cover up was its self a lie.
ReligionIsSophistry 2 years ago
What lies? Are you aware that the Bible gives examples of BOTH good and bad? Most folks do not read the whole story and then they fail to realize their "religion" is flawed. Just like your religion of hatred and mythology. You have failed as did the church fathers and those who caused the terrible crimes in the Bible. The book is still revealing the evil in you, and you are dumb enough to share it with others.
SolomonSeries 2 years ago
this is another example of why ignorance is bliss. Just give a half ass answer, and wham the Christians are satisfied.
WHY DO CHRISTIANS NOT READ THERE BIBLES?
DanielThomasVideos 2 years ago
If you read the Bible you would understand that your ignorance is nearly perfect. Your retort is simple, but inaccurate. Your perspective is as twisted as the perspective of Christians who fail to read their Bibles. You are equally at fault in ignorance.
SolomonSeries 2 years ago
After watching I went back and read the relevent part, and it confirmed my understandin that it makes it very clear that Adam and Eve had their other children after Cain "knew his wife"
If this is the true word of God a man with the knowledge and know how Id really expect it to be a bit better than this garbage.
DanielThomasVideos 2 years ago
It is okay if you do not read well. It is also okay if you have preconceived convictions in error. You are subject to the same error as the "Christians" you say follow blindly in faith. You just have faith in the other direction. It is not "clear" as you state. In fact, Adam was 130 when he had Seth, and that gives well over 100 years for a wide array of things to happen. You overlook that the entire section of text is out of sequence, like an old man telling stories with diversions.
SolomonSeries 2 years ago
There was NO Adam!!!!! it is a bullshit story told to ignorant savages by even more savage idiots!!!!! Get it through your head, none of it ever happened, it is just stories, it is not history and it is not even good stories! If you just have to read stories written a long time ago, read ancient Greek literature, the stories are much better written.
ReligionIsSophistry 2 years ago
Greek literature (ancient) stems from the lost tribes. The stories nearly replicate the traditions of the Bible in instances because the Greeks find their roots in the Bible. You are sadly confused, duped by traditions of pagans and preachers. Your ignorance is only exceeded by your zeal to challenge from a point of weakness. You are not well educated. You are a hard liner taking a strong stance against weakly equipped mythologists. Why not step to the middle and explore without the zeal?
SolomonSeries 2 years ago
"why not step in the middle and explore without the zeal"
indeed. great advice for anybody seeking the truth
for example you have given me NOTHING but pointless rhetoric for every question i've posed.
i pick DIRECTLY from the bible that god thinks worse of picking up sticks on sabbath than raping a woman, an explaination? i mention that god has no problem with child murdering and you give me rhetoric
can i get a actual answer to why a god worth worshipping would do these things?
theeyeisblind 2 years ago
Site the verse you are using, so I can address it and I will. I thought that your messages were senseless hatred, as they were laced with both. Point to the scripture and verse and maybe we can discuss it. If I site one that you are not looking at then it adds confusion. Share the specific rape verse that you are hung up on. There is BOTH sides of every argument in the Text. You are choosing one, so be specific. I do not expect you to embrace the god that has been shared with you.
SolomonSeries 2 years ago
deut. 22: 28-29, numbers 31: 15-18
duet. is clear, you ONLY die if you rape a married woman. but if you rape an unmarried woman the you pay her dad 50 shekels and marry her. its a damn good thing our government wasn't founded on these morals becuase this is absolutely disgusting law handed down from god himself, gods PERFECT law
why would a loving god give such laws to even a primitive people? lets not forget that any such law in the quran would be unequivically evil
theeyeisblind 2 years ago
I understand the Koran very well. I note you are using that as a shield or distraction to stir more religious sentiment. Not a problem. (Only yours). Which version or translation of the Bible are you using? There are versions before the Hebrew that you may not be aware of. Which one do you use so I can use the same Text that has confused you thus far?
SolomonSeries 2 years ago
nah its not a shield dude, thats what your doing by constantly resorting to ad hominom in an effort to refuse me intellectual repsect. it amatuer and nothing more than a salesman tactic.
its prideful, spiteful BS that i would expect a christian to be against. so why don't we all stick to the issues here and somewhat get along?
AH more intricacies to gods perfect and simple word eh? well lets go with KJV, NIV it doesn't matter to me, you choose
theeyeisblind 2 years ago
Think about the nasty old dudes who wrote the Bible, they were using their womenfolk as currency. Buying, selling, trading them, using them to get into influential families, for peace offerings etc. It was part of their perfect plan to make sure that Jewish women did not get uppity and rebelling the way the Greek, Roman, Spartan women were getting at the time. They could not risk losing the income that twat was bringing in. They couldn't get top shekel for used twat, so they invented the law.
ReligionIsSophistry 2 years ago
Don't forget that in the Quran raped women are put to death. The 4 wittiness rule insures that no woman would ever tell, thus perfect protection for rapists. Equally evil.
ReligionIsSophistry 2 years ago
indeed and that if a woman doesn't scream loudly enough while being raped then she gets put to death as well according to the dueteronomy passages i just mentioned.
and apparently they felt the need to make sure that ALL manner of rape is discussed, whether its in the city, a field, or outside the gate. because of course it matters when and where they are raped to the loving and perfect christian god
duet. 22: 22-29
theeyeisblind 2 years ago
Well yea, what do you expect, Mohammad's first wife hired a Christian tutor for him years earlier and he remembered the stories as best he could while he was plotting his own hoax for world domination and ultimate control of twat, while he was at it. Quiet a few hadith about women getting uppity and thinking they were human again... couldn't have that!
ReligionIsSophistry 2 years ago
damn thats pertty sick dude. but i wonder if it even compares to how barbaric the judeo christian god was in his covenant with the jews.
its weird how atrocities in other religions are as such yet atrocities in ones own faith are perfectly acceptable.
cognitive dissonance at its best
theeyeisblind 2 years ago
You are the most ignorant one here, you argue for a truth that never existed even long after it has been proven false. The Bible is garbage, nothing more than a weakly strung fabric of myths and legends stolen from ancient civilizations. You are the one who has been duped, played the fool by the very ones who perpetuated this hoax on humanity. The old bastards probably started it shortly after seeing Lysistrata, judging by their hatred for women.
ReligionIsSophistry 2 years ago
My hateful friend (see above). You are a religious zealot, merely you have taken on a religion to refute religion. You are a lost and confused inDUHvidual. I asked a simple question as to which form of the Text you are using and you cannot answer civilly. One would think that this is your moment to shine, but rather you feel a superior answer is coming to address your mystic beliefs. I would operate in fear if I was you as well. Remain in the dark (dork) if you want. What translation?
SolomonSeries 2 years ago
are you serious?
you have been insulting dissentors this entire time and then you complain about him answering civilly?
again this can't be the christian humbleness, love and compassion that preachers talk about at the end of sermons? are you REALLY a christian or a plant just acting like one?
i understand that you are getting tough criticism and a less-than-loving responses but i gave you no such thing you you responded with it anyways, why?
theeyeisblind 2 years ago
what this guys in the video fails to reconise is: It states after the Cain and Abel debarkel Adam has more sons and daughters. bringing us right back to the question! maybe the answer is that it dosnt make sense, there is no right answer. And copulating with a sister? hyocritical dont you say? another bibloe joke.
DanielThomasVideos 2 years ago
It is interesting how you read and manipulate the text. The Bible DOES NOT say that. Seth the 3rd son is mentioned as well as sons and daughters, but the story is clearly told out of sequence. THAT sequencing confusion is part of the answer. It is simple to demonstrate the sequence. Man and woman are mentioned in the days of creation before the story of Adam and Eve. It is a writing style. Our reading style often overlooks this. It never says he slept with his sister or his mother.
SolomonSeries 2 years ago
love it.
nannatimes5 2 years ago
Thanks for commenting. These videos and those of this type which point people back to the Bible tend to get some pretty caustic replies. Often folks are not seeking, merely throwing rocks. I haven't have a half dozen folks challenge any of our videos from a fact basis. They merely challenge from hearsay. They challenge these videos (Cain and Abel) but often refuse to read what the Bible says. Odd, how the Gospel stirs people for good and bad.
SolomonSeries 2 years ago