Jesus Banagher is a bitch. Kill 1 or lose thousands? Easy choice, shoot the insane pilot of the gigantic MA. Riddhe is the man, can't wait to see him in the Banshee
@Raging0yster Loni and Banagher had the same kind of newtype connection that Amuro and Lala had in the original MSG so firing at her after all his efforts to save her would have been near impossible for him
Riddhe isn't exactly a experienced veteran, he's a Ensign so he's probably fresh off the boat from officer school. Riddhe is just a natural skill for piloting. Although Banagher fits the normal archetype Gundam teenager protagonist.
@Omegamegamanzx Right, in this episode, Banagher is almost on the Zeon side(Garencieres) , not the Federation. And ended up getting caught in the middle. While Riddhe, who officially belongs to the Fed's army and got slapped by captain Bright, did what he had to do.
I felt somewhat sorry for Banagher who was too naive to kill someone he knew. I know Loni had to pay, but it's only from the Federation side or bystander's point of view, which may not be the director's message).
Riddhe was the only hero of this battle, Loni was slaughtering civilians left and right and Banagher couldn't bring himself to kill her because he was so convinced he could just make her "stop' ? It's ridiculous. War is Hell.
I as Banagher should not be emotional, fighting is fighting, even friends, Banagher and should not not to kill her, and immediate enemy should be eliminated, because the fight was such that one as well.
0:46 did you see that??? thats fkn brutal never in a gundam series do you see what happens in a cockpit the moment they die she became a bloody pulp!!!!
@michaeljones1301 yeah but kamille impaled him with the core fighter which was hilarious btw but this girl got incinerated and turned into a bloodbath same thing happend to that zeon pilot in war in the pocket but luckily you dont see it :P
@uberhaxor69 yeah....that was pretty nasty =P you could see him getting boiled in the cockpit and also the episode in gundam seed destiny where the shinn's beam javelin nails auel and abyss down into the ocean XP
My biggest grip is that they changed this fight. In the novel Banagher was fighting Loni's father. She went on board the Shamblo to stop her father cause Banagher helped her realize this fight was pointless. Her father shoot hers and as she lays there dying, reaches out to Banagher and helps shoot the chest; killing her and her father. It was touching, sad, and gripping. It showed that Banagher was willing to do what was needed to save lives while also showing he cared about people.
@punkKid62 I never read the novel, but I like that scene more. Although this scene is touching and powerful in itself it would have shown more for Banagher and his development.
@Graywolf233 Oh it did a lot more, and you know what? He stilled cried for Loni but it made more sense in the noevl than here. I know her pyscommu system was malfuctioning but she was so much more sympathetic in the novel. Sure, she was pissed her mother was killed but she knew well enough that this was just repeating those events. Her father though? Giant douche.
guys where do you download the episodes? i want to download it free and i don't want to sign up somewhere.... but i want to rewatch them in hd :/ pls help
Did anyone notice when Loni actually blocked the mega partical cannon's path as it rushed towards Banagher, kinda refering to that she wasn't completely in control of all of her actions.
@epiclol9000 He didn't even have to shoot the cannon. She purposely raised 3 reflector-bits to nullify the mega particle diffusion gun after having her "revelation". She was going to stop right then and there by herself.
That being said I think Riddhe is given a lot of shit for this that isn't deserved. This machine was far too powerful, especially in the hands of Zeon. Its not reasonable to assume Zeon would stand idly by if they were to systematically dismantle the Shamblo.
@epiclol9000 To follow up (damn character limit) - it is obvious that the show is trying to give Riddhe a "bad guy" character, but sometimes you have to decide for yourself. What would you have done? In war, one life lost isn't a huge price to pay in the scheme of things.
Loni was an emotional part of the plot so its easy to be angry at him for killing her. However nobody can say how this would have played out had Riddhe chose otherwise. I think he made the right choice.
@wwwpwndcom Killing her didn't achieve anything. The main bulk of the Zeon forces were destroyed already at that time, so retreat was inevitable. However, it was shown that Loni didn't want to kill Banagher anymore, so all they had to do was disable to main weapons and it's done.
Loni wasn't going to fight anymore anyway, so she wasn't a threat.
@epiclol9000 She was highly unstable. But even if she wasn't a threat, that machine was. Riddhe was doing his duty as a soldier by eliminating it. Again, its not reasonable to assume Zeon would stand idly by if they were to systematically dismantle the Shamblo.
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I find it a bigger mystery why Banagher didnt use beamsabres and slice the Shamblo's shoulder cannons and head to ribbons while he was close trying to be diplomatic to a moving WMD. kind of a missed chance there, right?
@MrLunitunz the novel. the ntd system can be activated and used by both newtyoes and oldtypes. yet however the ntd can kill its pilot if they are not an oldtype.
@breakerfury31 One: You didn't answer my question, Manga or Novel?
Two: Yes it does. The Anaheim Worker said that NT-D would put too much strain on anyone's body. NT-D is controlled by the mind, this is evidenced by almost all of Unicorn's battles. Newtypes by nature are much stronger mentally than non-Newtypes or Oldtypes, thus they can take the strain. The fact that said Oldtype pilot died indicated that he couldn't take the strain, proving on some level that only Newtypes can really use NT-D
@MrLunitunz wrong. the ntd system is a psycommu system in the novel it was piloted by an oldtype and still activated when it need to. the only reason it activates is because the system senses a newtype and must find and destroy it. FROM the novel
As the name implies, the NT-D system was created with the specific purpose of combating enemy Newtype pilots. With the Earth Federation still fearful of the power that Newtypes possessed, the Federation commissioned longtime MS developer Anaheim Electronics to create a system that could effectively allow an Oldtype to combat Newtypes. This eventually led to the development of the RX-0 Unicorn- straight from gundam wiki
@breakerfury31 The NT-D mode is operated via psycho-frame, which can only be operated by a newtype. And in case anyone hasn't figured it out yet, Banagher is a cyber-newtype.
@breakerfury31 The NT-D mode is operated via psycho-frame, which can only be operated by a newtype. And in case anyone hasn't figured it out yet, Banagher is a cyber-newtype.
@breakerfury31 The NT-D mode is operated via psycho-frame, which can only be operated by a newtype. And in case anyone hasn't figured it out yet, Banagher is a cyber-newtype.
@breakerfury31 The NT-D mode is operated via psycho-frame, which can only be operated by a newtype. And in case anyone hasn't figured it out yet, Banagher is a cyber-newtype.
@breakerfury31 NT-D is a type of psycommu, that's why it glows. Psycommu systems can only be used by Newtypes. Gundam Wiki is not a reliable source. NT-D can only be used by Newtypes which is why Anaheim and Martha Vist took the trouble of forcing Marida to pilot the Banshee instead of getting any good, normal human being. All the Unicorn units are piloted by Newtypes, natural or otherwise, look at Banagher, Riddhe, Marida.
Really, I should Bright Slap you, but I'll spare you.
@MrLunitunz oh? why is Gundam Wiki not a reliable source when it's got a whole community of gundam fans worldwide as contributors on it? Not to mention they, whoever the contributors are, might have gotten some official information from lets say books like Dengeki Hobby or the manual for a gundam plastic model. Usually the manuals have certain information about the MSs and/or technology applied in said MS... :3
You make it sound like gundam fans are unreliable source of gundam information... :3
@GenesicShinZyraelKai This is true. But, as I've seen on it, a lot of information consists of speculation and other such questionable material that gets removed from the Gundam Wikipedia articles, which may also have the elements you mentioned.
@MrLunitunz Gundam Wiki ain't that all unreliable bro... if there are false information scattered about, the contributors usually just delete those said information and/or correct it. Also Gundam Wiki also takes information on mahq.net. :D
Fact is, as far as NT-D is concerned, the part about Oldtypes being able to use NT-D is only mentioned on Gundam Wiki nowhere else, and the Unicorn's page, from what I saw, says the suit has to sense ANOTHER Newtype, meaning the pilot has to be a Newtype, directly contradicting the earlier statement. Plus Psychoframes can only be used by Newtypes, the stuff about Oldtypes better describes Bio-Computers from V Gundam
@MrLunitunz Well about the NT-D, true it's a newtype only technology namely because of two very relevant things, 1st being the Unicorn being a FULL psychoframe MS and 2nd one being the Unicorn Destroy mode is controlled via brain waves. Also to note, an MS with psychoframe is meant for newtype use by default, to my knowledge atleast displayed in games... :3
@MrLunitunz Rihdee is not a new type. the NTD system is a system that identifies the opponent to be a newtype or a cyber newtype. if rihdee was a newtype then why didnt he feel the pain loni had felt? your thought on that he can activate the NTD because he is a newtype is wrong. anyone can activate it as long as the system identifies the enemy as a newtype or cyber newtype, but who knows maybe he hasnt reached newtype power yet
@breakerfury31 Anybody can use the Unicorn but you NEED to be a Newtype to activate NT-D. As for his lack of empathy, as has been stated elsewhere, Riddhe's a weak Newtype but evidence of him being a Newtype is there, he sensed the Unicorn in Episode 2.
ok this has been bugging me. the shamblo has psychoframe and in episode 3 the unicorn revealed it can take over enemy weapons that have psychoframe. so did the unicorn use that power to reflect the blast of the shamblo or was it loni? O.o
@breakerfury31 well, to be exact, Unicorn can take control of psycommu weapons (aka mind-controlled stuff) trying to take over another psychoframe unit just causes interference, shown by the scene when Banagher goes into NTD and he tried to control Shamblo. It just causes a huge ass shockwave.
@breakerfury31 and i dont know what youre referring to, if youre talking about the beam being reflected in this vid, then it was reflected on accident. Riddhe said earlier that they were gonna circle around and charge in, and try to be faster than the reaction time of the reflectors....so my guess is that the reflectors didnt move out of the way of the line of fire in time lol
The Kshatriya's pilot is in the Banshee, I'm pretty sure she's gonna fight the Delta Plus, Riddhe will win, he will take the Banshee, then a rivalry starts between him and Banagher of who is the better pilot. Skill vs OP Protagonist, Banshee vs Unicorn.
the delta plus is abandoned and the banshee is taken by riddhe, banagher rescues marida and escapes. Riddhe is then given the banshee and goes out of control when he thinks everyone is going against him, fights against banagher and fires a beam at the archilum, marida blocks the attack with the remaining damaged kyshatriya and saves the day, riddhe realises what he's done and teams up with banagher to take down full frontal.
@xXDestinyGundam950Xx No. No he is not. Kamille and Amuro both acted worse, when in an even shorter span of time, Banagher has completely had his world rocked.
Don't compare UC Gundam to that SEED nonsense. When UC Gundam characters cry, they cry manly tears from the horror and tragedy of the battlefield!
Hold on Hold on, The plot of gundam unicorn has elements from gundam seed, we all know that kira didn't want to fight in the war, banagher didn't want to either, I don't know why people hate gundam seed so much, it's a good series and has potential. I'm sure it due to people going it's a copy to the original gundam. Well guess what, everything has to be based around something. It isn't nonsense, it was good and was way more popular in it's time.
@xXDestinyGundam950Xx SEED has really generic (I'd say borderline terrible even, barring a few of the female designs) character art, cheap looking Mech designs, plot-armored Gundams that can literally destroy entire battlefields in one shot, and the coloring looks horrible. It was really popular because it pandered to a younger female audience more than any other Gundam before it.
Unicorn is 110% class. It's the way anime should be.
@xXDestinyGundam950Xx No no no, Unicorn is continuing the legacy of Amura Ray and the very first Mobile Suit Gundam UC 0079. Unicorn is formally titled Mobile Suit Gundam UC 0096, meaning all this happened 17 years after the first, and Unicorn is an expansion (and possibly closure) for the UC timeline. The themes in this has been copied and reflected in the alternate series of Wing, Seed, and 00. Please don't mix up the original anime's themes from its derivatives.
@xXDestinyGundam950Xx i agree with you there, SEED was my favourite series, but every different series has its own perks, and every character thinks differently. Kira treasures the meaning of life, therefore is reluctant to take one away. by the way, i assume that the abilities of gundam seed's technology are closer to the modern technology that we have right now, unlike other series.
@xXDestinyGundam950Xx After watching this episode for the first time, I thought the same. But then I realised that's not a fair comparison. The only similarity is they both cry, which kinda annoyed me after the third time. But Banagher can kick ass, he beat the shit out of Zinnerman immediately before this, and the only reason he won't kill Loni is because he empathises with her. Kira Yamato on the other hand is just a pussy.
How is he? if you rewatch gundam seed, he was able to beat up people. We all saw it, with the earth forces officer how he took them all on and then threw him to the ground. Then to that time when he fought against the blue cosmos soldiers. This shows that he has the potential like all anime series protagonists, unlike setsuna who just took a beating from lockon and didn't bother fighting back, Now that's a pussy, he always got hit and never fought back.
@xXDestinyGundam950Xx Setsuna wasn't afraid to fight or kill, that's one. Two, Kira Yamato's believability as character was stretched too thin over two series. Banagher essentially fights because he has no choice, he's a naive kid who won't destroy the Unicorn because it's a reminder of his father. Kira chooses to fight, both in the second half of SEED and in Destiny and so the fact that he refuses to kill anyone makes him pathetic, you don't fight in a war if you're not prepared to kill.
@MrLunitunz what kira yamato did after the received freedom was disarming his enemies, not killing them, except for rau. so I think I can forgive him for that. haha. at least he won the war :P
@paladinmsv But that's my point. He didn't want to kill anybody, and yet he actively choose to fight. At least Banagher has the excuse of being dragged into battle. Kira could've done better work on the political side if he's that pacifistic. People who sign up to fight in the war have to expect that they'll be forced to kill people at some point. That's why I think Kira's believability as a character was stretched too thin, after a while you start thinking about that contradiction.
@MrLunitunz actually, didn't Banagher not care about the Unicorn as a mobile suit? I think he's more into having to take responsibility of the Unicorn due to the La+ Box having the potential for destroying the beliefs of either Zeon or EF rather than being a memento from his father.
@GenesicShinZyraelKai Banagher wants to change things, so he lets himself be used, this is true. But he's been offered the possibility of destroying the Unicorn at least once, in Episode 2, and he wouldn't do it. One would presume it's because the Unicorn was given to him by his father and he doesn't want to destroy the only thing his father ever entrusted him with, he doesn't want to disappoint him.
@MrLunitunz I don't seem to remember him being close to seeing the Unicorn as his father's memento, please share your opinions about this. From what I gathered in episode 2, he cares more for Audrey more than the Unicorn or the La+ Box... :3
@GenesicShinZyraelKai He sees his father within the Unicorn when he faces down Loni. He obviously cares for Audrey, but I think he cares about the Unicorn as well, like I said, he's had several opportunities to destroy it and he wouldn't. His father told him to use it to guide him to Laplace's Box and that's exactly what he does, he thought about living up to Cardeas' wishes at least twice in Episode 4 and at least once in Episode 2.
@Monkerr So are most of the pilots in the Gundam universe, and they're certainly not all wimps. It's okay to cry but with Kira it started to be practically every episode, and it got annoying. It made you want to shout 'Man up!' at the screen. Plus he had pretty lengthy cry scenes which didn't really do anything for the viewers except the aforementioned 'Man up!'.
@MrLunitunz the whole bloodlines thing is silly. And Banagher has killed people before, and he had every reason to stop Loni at all costs (which he said himself). Now here's something...put Banagher in the Battle of Berlin and Kira against the Shamblo. As much as Kira wants to prevent death, he had no choice in order to stop the Destroy Gundam. Banagher, faced with the same situation, chooses not to shoot and lets his emotions get the best of him.
@blacksolar212 The bloodlines thing? You mean the three families, the Vists, the Zabis and the Marcenas family? No it's not. It gives the story context for one thing.
Banagher has killed people before, and I was partly disappointed with this battle (mainly because it wasn't the battle I wanted it to be). But the Destroy Gundam situation isn't the same. Kira didn't know Stella, his position is more equivalent to Riddhe's. A better comparison would be Kamille vs Four to a similar outcome.
@extraleague01 I think it's implied that the previous uses of the NT-D were brought on by high levels of stress/anger or the presence of a Newtype enemy, but this time around it was called on by the pilot willingly. The loss of the glow could be because there's no target for the NT-D to focus on but Banagher hasn't gone comatose this time around and dismissed the alternative mode. It's an interesting observation for sure.
What is the name of this track, I heard it first when unicorn was fighting sinanju in episode 3. It was absolutely amazing, can anyone tell me the name of this track please it would be greatly appreciated.
hmmm....i think Riddhe should've shot the head instead of the cockpit to avoid loni's death. i mean Loni could become an invaluable ally to Banagher. just a big "what if"
I don't know if anyone's mentioned this before but anyone noticed how she set up those beam reflectors as some sort of shield that prevented shamblo's beam from actually hitting delta plus and the unicorn? It's almost as if she wanted to die and just had to provoke riddhe/banagher to shoot her
Hmm that's a possibility. Though another explanation could be that she lost complete control of the Shamblo, but still maintained control of the beam reflectors.
@zetatrain I think so too, and I think (although didnt have time to confirm atm) the colour of the psycho frame reflects the emotion of the pilot. Hence when Banagher was unconscious at the beginning of Ep2 and loses his will to fight here, it "shuts down". When he wants to fight, it's red, and Marida has it in yellow for a different emotion -- you can see Loni's turned blue from red when she said it's sad. We should see what green means later
Interesting, though my idea is a little different. While Loni may have lost the will to fight at the last second, all her anger and hatred that was absorbed by they Shamblo's psychoframe had manifested itself to the point where it was the only thing controlling the Shamblo. Despite Loni's last second change, as far as the Shamblo was concerned, it was carrying out her final wish hence why it fired that last shot.
why Zeons almost have realistic Nazi's weapon feature? after Nazi-aliked Flag, Kampfer's "Panzerfaust", and now Zaku I Sniper have Replacable Gun barrel. just wait for character that resembles Hitler..
Well the way I see it, neither side, federation or zeon/neo zeon, is good or evil. The remnants pretty much fought in vain just so that they could deliver one final "FUCK YOU" to the federation, despite the fact that it would change nothing. They didn't lose because the "good guys" had to win, they lost because they tried to fight a prolong battle in which they were basically throwing away their lives. In the end this outcome was the most likely one.
at this minute of the show i was staring in the screen just waiting what banaghers answer was for the people watching ep 4. zinnerman said people live along to forget the sadness but boy this show mass produces sadness T_T.
@PhobotechNG Kid, I don't think you understand the idea of 'realism in characters'. The shit happening around them might not be realistic, but the characters sure as hell have a shitload of realism to them. Some people are born to fight, others are forced into it. Banagher was forced into it, he doesn't want to kill anyone, he is not a murderer. That is perfectly realistic as not even everyone in the real life army can shoot someone easily.
@DarkCloud64 Pardon me, "kid," but I'm 24 years old. You're also trying to argue realism into a sci-fi anime with giant bipedal robots, and my perspective on it is I can't wait for his character arc to mature. That would be great if this series included character development, just like the previous greats in the Gundam series like with Amuro Ray or Shiro Amada. I detest how he's a whiny little bitch now, hoping he'll be brave for the series climax. Now kindly take your pent up hormones elsewhere
@PhobotechNG Oh I'm sorry, i didn't realize you could tell the future and clearly knew something like this was impossible, because as far as human technology has come, it could very well happen in the next 300 years, regardless if we're alive or not. Beside that, I'm pretty sure when you were 15/16, you weren't thinking of going out and killing people. Pretty sure if I went back in time and dragged your teenage ass onto the battlefield, you'd be kicking and screaming to leave, afraid of it.
@DarkCloud64 Where is this attitude coming from? What are you trying to accomplish by arguing over this trivial bullshit? You're still bantering on supporting what you think is possible in a CARTOON. Listen to yourself. It's a wonderfully produced, awesomely entertaining show, there is no doubt. I don't care about what realistic way a kid would go through in the hells of war; I want my hero to be confident, and not annoying and whiny. That's MY opinion. Step off and worry about shit that matters
@PhobotechNG Funny, I don't remember mentioning what was real in an animation, I simply stated common sense back to a senseless moron that you don't know shit what the future will be like for us, and that this shit could be us someday. You also don't seem to understand realism in character development still. They developed this to be MORE realistic than the other Gundams in terms of character development, even if it is a short series of OVAs. Obviously you can't comprehend that though.
@DarkCloud64 "When opinions go against fact." All I said was "Banagher needs to man up," and you chose me to berate over on your little soap box. Nothing I say will be satisfactory for you, because you're on full-blown troll mode. Only in that insane mindset do you think you have any right to call someone a moron, through the anonymity of the internet where you're safe. Feverishly waiting for a response, so you can come out on top and "win" an argument you started on an anime video. Get a life.
@PhobotechNG The fact that you quite clearly have to come respond to me means that I must be trolling successfully. If you had any more of a life than myself, you wouldn't even take the time to respond.
@PhobotechNG not really whiny, more like questioning everyone around him about everything around him. Given that the guy had no father figure for a relative amount of time during his growth to teach him those things and as to why he got suddenly thrown into the chaos by his own father at that, and how the military works their ways just won't work for him since it contradicts his own personal beliefs... it's no wonder why Banagher's the way he is.
@DarkCloud64 Banagher's a civilian right? Doesn't that make him a murderer if he continues on piloting a mobile suit yet not even assigned in the military? Cause I don't remember of having the license to kill be given to civilians that participate in sorties with soldiers... Even if it's war, a civilian is still a civilian not entitled the license to kill unless for defensive purposes or is rightfully given. :3
@ExileXCross Mercenaries, paid to kill, murderer none the less... Also Banagher isn't a mercenary, he's not being paid by anyone to dispose off anyone. The license to kill is given to soldiers and is properly authorized inside the battlefield by the soldiers superiors, not outside it the battlefield by someone else.
@GenesicShinZyraelKai - Or unless they pulled a "Kira Yamato" into him in this anime, since I heard in the novel version that Banagher was able to shoot Loni since it she made him do it :P.
@maverickhunterdelta well you know how anime are... unless the anime is an anime only exclusive, several changes to either plot, character design or character personality will be made.... I actually think it suits the chain of events more rather than him having to shoot Loni
@GenesicShinZyraelKai - Unless you already watched all the recent gundam series, and know what Banagher should've thought what Mr. Daguza talked him in the last episode. For me or for anyone else, we know how disappointed THIS episode was.
@maverickhunterdelta meh to each our own I guess... but I do know the feeling of disappointment you're talking about when certain plot lines from visual novels I played get changed drastically when they get their anime form... -_- some of the important lines between characters are lost when that happens, so I'm guessing that's what happened here...
@GenesicShinZyraelKai - Man, stop saying the usual "to each of our own" or "its our opinion" I get that ALREADY! lol. What I'm saying is that Banaghery hasn't LEARNED his lesson from what Mr. Daguza said to him from episode 3. They constantly hammered his "hypocritical" actions in THIS EPISODE. I just "heard" in the novel, not know. Yes I get it about anime, but to constantly and quickly make the character hand-fisted his ego on "STOP FIGHTING" is a disappointment. :P
@GenesicShinZyraelKai - Now I am not talking about the comparisons of the novel to anime now, just saying that everyone I've met were disappointed on how they treated his character in this episode. Please get and know what I mean next time lol.
@maverickhunterdelta hahaha... he's getting there, learning his lesson from Daguza, but not so immediately. And him being a hypocrite might serve a surprise or something when he 'awakens' or something like that.
Also I get the feeling that most of the people you talked too, including you, are afraid of the Kira Yamato effect... :3 The effect in which the main protagonist tries to stop the fighting by using a gundam. XD
@GenesicShinZyraelKai - Not only that, but kira pretty much doesn't change throughout over the course of destiny and they wasted out on Shinn's character development. Now don't tell me that you weren't gotten sick of THAT effect :P.
True but there are some stark contrasts between Banagher and Kira. Banagher's naivete is portrayed as a huge character flaw that he must overcome where as Kira's "fighting is bad" stance is not presented as being naive but being in the right.
@zetatrain - I already know that.... damnit. I was saying it to HIM (not you) HIM. They just made him more of a disappointment HERE IN THIS EPISODE. Get with the program lol.
@zetatrain - Yea I know, but why state "right away: the details? You could've just ASK me before you jump in lol. Anyone here in the internet could actually say to you, "DERP I knew that!" or "thanks for pointing out the obvious there captain." :P
@zetatrain Oh and remember as well. A lot of fans (including you and me) have already exposed to the SEED/DESTINY universe. How will we supposed to "forgive" that Banagher's naivete is portrayed as a huge character flaw, SINCE THAT FLAW actually reminds us and our memories on freaking Jesus Yamato. Speaking of which, I thought the writers made Banagher learned his lesson from Angelo and Mr. Daguza from the previous episodes... seems to me that they pulled a fast one in his "flaw"
0:15 Riddhe used FLY!
0:35 Ms.Loni used SOLAR BEAM!
0:38 Riddhe evaded the attack!
0:41 Riddhe used HYPER BEAM!
It was Super Effective!
Critical Hit!
Ms.Loni died.
Riddhe was awarded 13333333333333333333333337 ex.points!
9000DarkDemon 5 days ago
Jesus Banagher is a bitch. Kill 1 or lose thousands? Easy choice, shoot the insane pilot of the gigantic MA. Riddhe is the man, can't wait to see him in the Banshee
Raging0yster 1 week ago
@Raging0yster Loni and Banagher had the same kind of newtype connection that Amuro and Lala had in the original MSG so firing at her after all his efforts to save her would have been near impossible for him
DanDood666 6 days ago
Banagher is just a 16-year-old student and Riddhe is an experienced soldier.
Gundam has always been a story of a boy becoming a man.
zexmarsfeb 2 weeks ago 2
@zexmarsfeb
Riddhe isn't exactly a experienced veteran, he's a Ensign so he's probably fresh off the boat from officer school. Riddhe is just a natural skill for piloting. Although Banagher fits the normal archetype Gundam teenager protagonist.
Omegamegamanzx 21 hours ago
@Omegamegamanzx Right, in this episode, Banagher is almost on the Zeon side(Garencieres) , not the Federation. And ended up getting caught in the middle. While Riddhe, who officially belongs to the Fed's army and got slapped by captain Bright, did what he had to do.
I felt somewhat sorry for Banagher who was too naive to kill someone he knew. I know Loni had to pay, but it's only from the Federation side or bystander's point of view, which may not be the director's message).
zexmarsfeb 18 hours ago
Riddhe was the only hero of this battle, Loni was slaughtering civilians left and right and Banagher couldn't bring himself to kill her because he was so convinced he could just make her "stop' ? It's ridiculous. War is Hell.
KosaiAvonej 2 weeks ago
I as Banagher should not be emotional, fighting is fighting, even friends, Banagher and should not not to kill her, and immediate enemy should be eliminated, because the fight was such that one as well.
kellywong18624 2 weeks ago
noooooooo puedo hacerlo!!!
chaval654 2 weeks ago
0:48 like a bouse :D
TL08tube 3 weeks ago
loni's psycommu color turned from red to green...
junky2fk 3 weeks ago
damn I got all tingling sensation when he said he couldn't shoot and the music started.
JCVA23 1 month ago
0:46 did you see that??? thats fkn brutal never in a gundam series do you see what happens in a cockpit the moment they die she became a bloody pulp!!!!
uberhaxor69 1 month ago
@uberhaxor69 did it with scirocco in zeta gundam, when kamille smushed him at the end
michaeljones1301 1 month ago
@michaeljones1301 yeah but kamille impaled him with the core fighter which was hilarious btw but this girl got incinerated and turned into a bloodbath same thing happend to that zeon pilot in war in the pocket but luckily you dont see it :P
uberhaxor69 1 month ago
@uberhaxor69 gundam seed the episode where sword strike takes down blitz gundam
someguy120100 3 weeks ago
@someguy120100 i forgot about that episode poor nicol lol
uberhaxor69 3 weeks ago
@uberhaxor69 yeah....that was pretty nasty =P you could see him getting boiled in the cockpit and also the episode in gundam seed destiny where the shinn's beam javelin nails auel and abyss down into the ocean XP
someguy120100 3 weeks ago
what id it with all the pussy gundam fighters they need to fuckin man up tured of them cryingball the time
MrMetal956 1 month ago
hey did you see that Riddhe damaged his delta plus's right arm with the Beam magnun. The recoil is so strong on that thing.
Tobymanic 1 month ago
Handled that situation like a boss!
Mixman1133 1 month ago
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Mixman1133 1 month ago
My biggest grip is that they changed this fight. In the novel Banagher was fighting Loni's father. She went on board the Shamblo to stop her father cause Banagher helped her realize this fight was pointless. Her father shoot hers and as she lays there dying, reaches out to Banagher and helps shoot the chest; killing her and her father. It was touching, sad, and gripping. It showed that Banagher was willing to do what was needed to save lives while also showing he cared about people.
punkKid62 1 month ago
@punkKid62 I never read the novel, but I like that scene more. Although this scene is touching and powerful in itself it would have shown more for Banagher and his development.
Graywolf233 1 month ago
@Graywolf233 Oh it did a lot more, and you know what? He stilled cried for Loni but it made more sense in the noevl than here. I know her pyscommu system was malfuctioning but she was so much more sympathetic in the novel. Sure, she was pissed her mother was killed but she knew well enough that this was just repeating those events. Her father though? Giant douche.
punkKid62 1 month ago
SIEG ZEON
Autruchement 1 month ago
guys where do you download the episodes? i want to download it free and i don't want to sign up somewhere.... but i want to rewatch them in hd :/ pls help
ChaosBirth12 1 month ago
@ChaosBirth12
check out tokyotosho (dot) info. It's where many people get their anime. They have episodes 1-4 on there. It's a torrent site.
Download Media Player Classic, or VLC player to play the files.
techbbq 1 month ago
@techbbq thank you very much!
ChaosBirth12 1 month ago
FUCK YOU RIDDHE!
Dodalalal91 1 month ago
Did anyone notice when Loni actually blocked the mega partical cannon's path as it rushed towards Banagher, kinda refering to that she wasn't completely in control of all of her actions.
Luminahawke 2 months ago
can someone tell me what the Sound Track is Called for this scene?
coffeefuzzy 2 months ago
@coffeefuzzy MAD-NUG
kanttyk 2 months ago
She didn't have to die...damn it Riddhe why didn't you just shoot the cannon?!
epiclol9000 2 months ago 6
@epiclol9000 He didn't even have to shoot the cannon. She purposely raised 3 reflector-bits to nullify the mega particle diffusion gun after having her "revelation". She was going to stop right then and there by herself.
That being said I think Riddhe is given a lot of shit for this that isn't deserved. This machine was far too powerful, especially in the hands of Zeon. Its not reasonable to assume Zeon would stand idly by if they were to systematically dismantle the Shamblo.
wwwpwndcom 2 months ago
@epiclol9000 To follow up (damn character limit) - it is obvious that the show is trying to give Riddhe a "bad guy" character, but sometimes you have to decide for yourself. What would you have done? In war, one life lost isn't a huge price to pay in the scheme of things.
Loni was an emotional part of the plot so its easy to be angry at him for killing her. However nobody can say how this would have played out had Riddhe chose otherwise. I think he made the right choice.
wwwpwndcom 2 months ago
@wwwpwndcom Killing her didn't achieve anything. The main bulk of the Zeon forces were destroyed already at that time, so retreat was inevitable. However, it was shown that Loni didn't want to kill Banagher anymore, so all they had to do was disable to main weapons and it's done.
Loni wasn't going to fight anymore anyway, so she wasn't a threat.
epiclol9000 1 month ago
@epiclol9000 She was highly unstable. But even if she wasn't a threat, that machine was. Riddhe was doing his duty as a soldier by eliminating it. Again, its not reasonable to assume Zeon would stand idly by if they were to systematically dismantle the Shamblo.
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marionetemanJ 1 month ago
@epiclol9000
I find it a bigger mystery why Banagher didnt use beamsabres and slice the Shamblo's shoulder cannons and head to ribbons while he was close trying to be diplomatic to a moving WMD. kind of a missed chance there, right?
vanDaalstad 2 weeks ago
i hate scary hero
ikhwan880 2 months ago
@MrLunitunz the novel. the ntd system can be activated and used by both newtyoes and oldtypes. yet however the ntd can kill its pilot if they are not an oldtype.
breakerfury31 2 months ago
next ep is gonna kickass. the lil warrant officer will get a promotion for sure
michu070 2 months ago
Super nice job(^O^)／
I like unicorn(^O^)／
Hageatama3 2 months ago
@MrLunitunz it doesnt prove yourpoint whatsoever because the anaheim electronic worker stated that using ntd will out so much strain on body
breakerfury31 2 months ago
@breakerfury31 One: You didn't answer my question, Manga or Novel?
Two: Yes it does. The Anaheim Worker said that NT-D would put too much strain on anyone's body. NT-D is controlled by the mind, this is evidenced by almost all of Unicorn's battles. Newtypes by nature are much stronger mentally than non-Newtypes or Oldtypes, thus they can take the strain. The fact that said Oldtype pilot died indicated that he couldn't take the strain, proving on some level that only Newtypes can really use NT-D
MrLunitunz 2 months ago
撃ったら衝撃で肩を破損させたよね
MGOplayerJAGAIMO5 2 months ago
@MrLunitunz wrong. the ntd system is a psycommu system in the novel it was piloted by an oldtype and still activated when it need to. the only reason it activates is because the system senses a newtype and must find and destroy it. FROM the novel
breakerfury31 2 months ago
@breakerfury31 The novel or the manga? There's a difference.
And if you're going by the manga, the so-called Oldtype pilot supposedly died after activating the NT-D, so that kind of proves my point.
MrLunitunz 2 months ago
i wish when the delta shot the gun his arm blow up and scatted in to a million bits
zero0wing 2 months ago
i guess this scene was not that complicated.it was relation.human.
and Riddhe`s said was not him image.it is Telepathy kind communication.
did i right explain?
watoi 2 months ago
Gundam Seed isn't a fair comparison to Unicorn
tom11zz884 2 months ago
@tom11zz884 - Its not a fair comparison, however, the similarities of banagher and kira yamato's "hypocritical ego" does make up for it :P
maverickhunterdelta 2 weeks ago
The greatest mecha ever...but those blu rays are crazy expensive :(
tom11zz884 2 months ago 2
@MrLunitunz where do you get your info from haha.
As the name implies, the NT-D system was created with the specific purpose of combating enemy Newtype pilots. With the Earth Federation still fearful of the power that Newtypes possessed, the Federation commissioned longtime MS developer Anaheim Electronics to create a system that could effectively allow an Oldtype to combat Newtypes. This eventually led to the development of the RX-0 Unicorn- straight from gundam wiki
i should bright slap you.
breakerfury31 2 months ago
@breakerfury31 The NT-D mode is operated via psycho-frame, which can only be operated by a newtype. And in case anyone hasn't figured it out yet, Banagher is a cyber-newtype.
ndalum75 2 months ago
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@breakerfury31 The NT-D mode is operated via psycho-frame, which can only be operated by a newtype. And in case anyone hasn't figured it out yet, Banagher is a cyber-newtype.
ndalum75 2 months ago
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@breakerfury31 The NT-D mode is operated via psycho-frame, which can only be operated by a newtype. And in case anyone hasn't figured it out yet, Banagher is a cyber-newtype.
ndalum75 2 months ago
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@breakerfury31 The NT-D mode is operated via psycho-frame, which can only be operated by a newtype. And in case anyone hasn't figured it out yet, Banagher is a cyber-newtype.
ndalum75 2 months ago
@breakerfury31 NT-D is a type of psycommu, that's why it glows. Psycommu systems can only be used by Newtypes. Gundam Wiki is not a reliable source. NT-D can only be used by Newtypes which is why Anaheim and Martha Vist took the trouble of forcing Marida to pilot the Banshee instead of getting any good, normal human being. All the Unicorn units are piloted by Newtypes, natural or otherwise, look at Banagher, Riddhe, Marida.
Really, I should Bright Slap you, but I'll spare you.
MrLunitunz 2 months ago
@MrLunitunz oh? why is Gundam Wiki not a reliable source when it's got a whole community of gundam fans worldwide as contributors on it? Not to mention they, whoever the contributors are, might have gotten some official information from lets say books like Dengeki Hobby or the manual for a gundam plastic model. Usually the manuals have certain information about the MSs and/or technology applied in said MS... :3
You make it sound like gundam fans are unreliable source of gundam information... :3
GenesicShinZyraelKai 2 months ago
@GenesicShinZyraelKai This is true. But, as I've seen on it, a lot of information consists of speculation and other such questionable material that gets removed from the Gundam Wikipedia articles, which may also have the elements you mentioned.
MrLunitunz 2 months ago
@MrLunitunz Gundam Wiki ain't that all unreliable bro... if there are false information scattered about, the contributors usually just delete those said information and/or correct it. Also Gundam Wiki also takes information on mahq.net. :D
GenesicShinZyraelKai 2 months ago
@GenesicShinZyraelKai True, but there ae grey areas. Typically I just use MAHQ.
Fact is, as far as NT-D is concerned, the part about Oldtypes being able to use NT-D is only mentioned on Gundam Wiki nowhere else, and the Unicorn's page, from what I saw, says the suit has to sense ANOTHER Newtype, meaning the pilot has to be a Newtype, directly contradicting the earlier statement. Plus Psychoframes can only be used by Newtypes, the stuff about Oldtypes better describes Bio-Computers from V Gundam
MrLunitunz 2 months ago
@MrLunitunz Well about the NT-D, true it's a newtype only technology namely because of two very relevant things, 1st being the Unicorn being a FULL psychoframe MS and 2nd one being the Unicorn Destroy mode is controlled via brain waves. Also to note, an MS with psychoframe is meant for newtype use by default, to my knowledge atleast displayed in games... :3
GenesicShinZyraelKai 2 months ago
@GenesicShinZyraelKai My point exactly. This other guy doesn't know what he's talking about.
MrLunitunz 2 months ago
@Yukikazehalo yes true in ep2 he did have that flash but what i was saying is that he couldnt feel other's pain such as loni.
breakerfury31 2 months ago
@MrLunitunz Rihdee is not a new type. the NTD system is a system that identifies the opponent to be a newtype or a cyber newtype. if rihdee was a newtype then why didnt he feel the pain loni had felt? your thought on that he can activate the NTD because he is a newtype is wrong. anyone can activate it as long as the system identifies the enemy as a newtype or cyber newtype, but who knows maybe he hasnt reached newtype power yet
breakerfury31 2 months ago
@breakerfury31
Riddhe IS a newtype, just a very weak one at this point. we already saw that he sensed the Unicorn in EP2, and he was too angry in EP4 to sense Loni.
Yukikazehalo 2 months ago
@breakerfury31 Anybody can use the Unicorn but you NEED to be a Newtype to activate NT-D. As for his lack of empathy, as has been stated elsewhere, Riddhe's a weak Newtype but evidence of him being a Newtype is there, he sensed the Unicorn in Episode 2.
MrLunitunz 2 months ago
@Monkerr rihdee fired the shot not banagher. rihdee isn't a newtype so he would not understand
breakerfury31 2 months ago
@breakerfury31 Riddhe is a newtype. Only Newtypes can use the NT-D and they assign Riddhe RX-O Unit 2.
MrLunitunz 2 months ago
I love how the delta plus can't fire more then once with the beam magnum lol, arm joint got messed up!
Monkerr 2 months ago
@Monkerr
It only had one beam clip anyway so even if he wanted to fire another time it wouldn't be possible without ammunition.
xXDestinyGundam950Xx 2 months ago in playlist Favorite videos
i love both characters honestly
nickaidanholden 2 months ago
love it when they mix emotion into the battle
vraelbliz 2 months ago
@ItsPeteKazama im refering to 00:34 the reflectors shield the delta plus and unicorn did the unicorn do that? or was it loni?
breakerfury31 2 months ago
@breakerfury31 it was totally loni, banagher was to occupied
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@breakerfury31 Loni did it, which is annoying she blocked it for them and he kills her -_-. He could of shot the head instead!
Monkerr 2 months ago
This OVA should win academy award for stunning and awesome experience.
lyue1996 2 months ago
ok this has been bugging me. the shamblo has psychoframe and in episode 3 the unicorn revealed it can take over enemy weapons that have psychoframe. so did the unicorn use that power to reflect the blast of the shamblo or was it loni? O.o
breakerfury31 2 months ago
@breakerfury31 Loni did it.
Samuraiedge2 2 months ago
@breakerfury31 well, to be exact, Unicorn can take control of psycommu weapons (aka mind-controlled stuff) trying to take over another psychoframe unit just causes interference, shown by the scene when Banagher goes into NTD and he tried to control Shamblo. It just causes a huge ass shockwave.
ItsPeteKazama 2 months ago
@breakerfury31 and i dont know what youre referring to, if youre talking about the beam being reflected in this vid, then it was reflected on accident. Riddhe said earlier that they were gonna circle around and charge in, and try to be faster than the reaction time of the reflectors....so my guess is that the reflectors didnt move out of the way of the line of fire in time lol
ItsPeteKazama 2 months ago
Gundam Unicorn just keeps on blowing my mind every single episode. God, the last 3 minutes or so of Episode one were just simply out of this world.
wwwpwndcom 2 months ago
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The Kshatriya's pilot is in the Banshee, I'm pretty sure she's gonna fight the Delta Plus, Riddhe will win, he will take the Banshee, then a rivalry starts between him and Banagher of who is the better pilot. Skill vs OP Protagonist, Banshee vs Unicorn.
JohnNguyenFTW 2 months ago
@JohnNguyenFTW
the delta plus is abandoned and the banshee is taken by riddhe, banagher rescues marida and escapes. Riddhe is then given the banshee and goes out of control when he thinks everyone is going against him, fights against banagher and fires a beam at the archilum, marida blocks the attack with the remaining damaged kyshatriya and saves the day, riddhe realises what he's done and teams up with banagher to take down full frontal.
xXDestinyGundam950Xx 2 months ago
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JohnNguyenFTW 2 months ago
Kinda lame how it could simply hold onto the Unicorn with ease when it began falling.
MisterHeroman 2 months ago
Can he stop crying for once?
varzonal 3 months ago
@varzonal Crying shows a person is human. Banagher is truly a human ..
lyue1996 2 months ago
@varzonal
Put it this way, he's the Kira Yamato of the UC Century
xXDestinyGundam950Xx 2 months ago
@xXDestinyGundam950Xx No. No he is not. Kamille and Amuro both acted worse, when in an even shorter span of time, Banagher has completely had his world rocked.
Don't compare UC Gundam to that SEED nonsense. When UC Gundam characters cry, they cry manly tears from the horror and tragedy of the battlefield!
JerzeyDevil82 2 months ago
@JerzeyDevil82
Hold on Hold on, The plot of gundam unicorn has elements from gundam seed, we all know that kira didn't want to fight in the war, banagher didn't want to either, I don't know why people hate gundam seed so much, it's a good series and has potential. I'm sure it due to people going it's a copy to the original gundam. Well guess what, everything has to be based around something. It isn't nonsense, it was good and was way more popular in it's time.
xXDestinyGundam950Xx 2 months ago
@xXDestinyGundam950Xx SEED has really generic (I'd say borderline terrible even, barring a few of the female designs) character art, cheap looking Mech designs, plot-armored Gundams that can literally destroy entire battlefields in one shot, and the coloring looks horrible. It was really popular because it pandered to a younger female audience more than any other Gundam before it.
Unicorn is 110% class. It's the way anime should be.
JerzeyDevil82 2 months ago
@JerzeyDevil82 *looks to left to see wing zero shooting a colony and taking no damage from total beam spam*
zgmfx13aprovidence 2 months ago
@xXDestinyGundam950Xx No no no, Unicorn is continuing the legacy of Amura Ray and the very first Mobile Suit Gundam UC 0079. Unicorn is formally titled Mobile Suit Gundam UC 0096, meaning all this happened 17 years after the first, and Unicorn is an expansion (and possibly closure) for the UC timeline. The themes in this has been copied and reflected in the alternate series of Wing, Seed, and 00. Please don't mix up the original anime's themes from its derivatives.
junky2fk 2 months ago
@xXDestinyGundam950Xx i agree with you there, SEED was my favourite series, but every different series has its own perks, and every character thinks differently. Kira treasures the meaning of life, therefore is reluctant to take one away. by the way, i assume that the abilities of gundam seed's technology are closer to the modern technology that we have right now, unlike other series.
WingZEROX10A 2 months ago
@WingZEROX10A
Yes i agree, at least there someone who can appreciate gundam seed and seed destiny. People nowadays are pathetic and judgemental!
xXDestinyGundam950Xx 2 months ago
@JerzeyDevil82
manly tears?
DigitalPerfection1 2 months ago
@xXDestinyGundam950Xx After watching this episode for the first time, I thought the same. But then I realised that's not a fair comparison. The only similarity is they both cry, which kinda annoyed me after the third time. But Banagher can kick ass, he beat the shit out of Zinnerman immediately before this, and the only reason he won't kill Loni is because he empathises with her. Kira Yamato on the other hand is just a pussy.
MrLunitunz 2 months ago 11
@MrLunitunz
How is he? if you rewatch gundam seed, he was able to beat up people. We all saw it, with the earth forces officer how he took them all on and then threw him to the ground. Then to that time when he fought against the blue cosmos soldiers. This shows that he has the potential like all anime series protagonists, unlike setsuna who just took a beating from lockon and didn't bother fighting back, Now that's a pussy, he always got hit and never fought back.
xXDestinyGundam950Xx 2 months ago
@xXDestinyGundam950Xx Setsuna wasn't afraid to fight or kill, that's one. Two, Kira Yamato's believability as character was stretched too thin over two series. Banagher essentially fights because he has no choice, he's a naive kid who won't destroy the Unicorn because it's a reminder of his father. Kira chooses to fight, both in the second half of SEED and in Destiny and so the fact that he refuses to kill anyone makes him pathetic, you don't fight in a war if you're not prepared to kill.
MrLunitunz 2 months ago
@MrLunitunz what kira yamato did after the received freedom was disarming his enemies, not killing them, except for rau. so I think I can forgive him for that. haha. at least he won the war :P
paladinmsv 2 months ago
@paladinmsv But that's my point. He didn't want to kill anybody, and yet he actively choose to fight. At least Banagher has the excuse of being dragged into battle. Kira could've done better work on the political side if he's that pacifistic. People who sign up to fight in the war have to expect that they'll be forced to kill people at some point. That's why I think Kira's believability as a character was stretched too thin, after a while you start thinking about that contradiction.
MrLunitunz 2 months ago
@MrLunitunz actually, didn't Banagher not care about the Unicorn as a mobile suit? I think he's more into having to take responsibility of the Unicorn due to the La+ Box having the potential for destroying the beliefs of either Zeon or EF rather than being a memento from his father.
GenesicShinZyraelKai 2 months ago
@GenesicShinZyraelKai Banagher wants to change things, so he lets himself be used, this is true. But he's been offered the possibility of destroying the Unicorn at least once, in Episode 2, and he wouldn't do it. One would presume it's because the Unicorn was given to him by his father and he doesn't want to destroy the only thing his father ever entrusted him with, he doesn't want to disappoint him.
MrLunitunz 2 months ago
@MrLunitunz I don't seem to remember him being close to seeing the Unicorn as his father's memento, please share your opinions about this. From what I gathered in episode 2, he cares more for Audrey more than the Unicorn or the La+ Box... :3
GenesicShinZyraelKai 2 months ago
@GenesicShinZyraelKai He sees his father within the Unicorn when he faces down Loni. He obviously cares for Audrey, but I think he cares about the Unicorn as well, like I said, he's had several opportunities to destroy it and he wouldn't. His father told him to use it to guide him to Laplace's Box and that's exactly what he does, he thought about living up to Cardeas' wishes at least twice in Episode 4 and at least once in Episode 2.
MrLunitunz 2 months ago
@MrLunitunz Kira was 16 when it started, if you had a heart you would cry for the people you've killed and couldn't save.
Monkerr 2 months ago
@Monkerr So are most of the pilots in the Gundam universe, and they're certainly not all wimps. It's okay to cry but with Kira it started to be practically every episode, and it got annoying. It made you want to shout 'Man up!' at the screen. Plus he had pretty lengthy cry scenes which didn't really do anything for the viewers except the aforementioned 'Man up!'.
MrLunitunz 2 months ago
@MrLunitunz I only remember him crying once in that really depressing episode after Rau revealed his destroy the whole universe plot.
blacksolar212 1 month ago
@MrLunitunz the whole bloodlines thing is silly. And Banagher has killed people before, and he had every reason to stop Loni at all costs (which he said himself). Now here's something...put Banagher in the Battle of Berlin and Kira against the Shamblo. As much as Kira wants to prevent death, he had no choice in order to stop the Destroy Gundam. Banagher, faced with the same situation, chooses not to shoot and lets his emotions get the best of him.
blacksolar212 1 month ago
@blacksolar212 The bloodlines thing? You mean the three families, the Vists, the Zabis and the Marcenas family? No it's not. It gives the story context for one thing.
Banagher has killed people before, and I was partly disappointed with this battle (mainly because it wasn't the battle I wanted it to be). But the Destroy Gundam situation isn't the same. Kira didn't know Stella, his position is more equivalent to Riddhe's. A better comparison would be Kamille vs Four to a similar outcome.
MrLunitunz 1 month ago
I wonder why Unicorn didn't go back to being Unicorn and stayed as partially Destroy mode at the end.
extraleague01 3 months ago
@extraleague01 I think it's implied that the previous uses of the NT-D were brought on by high levels of stress/anger or the presence of a Newtype enemy, but this time around it was called on by the pilot willingly. The loss of the glow could be because there's no target for the NT-D to focus on but Banagher hasn't gone comatose this time around and dismissed the alternative mode. It's an interesting observation for sure.
AumaanXaryne 2 months ago
AND THEN THE BANSHEEE APPEARS AND KICKS THE DOG SHIT OUT OF THE UNICORN!!!!!!!!!!
jace5151 3 months ago
MAD-NUG
popo5911 3 months ago
What is the name of this track, I heard it first when unicorn was fighting sinanju in episode 3. It was absolutely amazing, can anyone tell me the name of this track please it would be greatly appreciated.
chubbyninja1000 3 months ago
hmmm....i think Riddhe should've shot the head instead of the cockpit to avoid loni's death. i mean Loni could become an invaluable ally to Banagher. just a big "what if"
marijerome 3 months ago
I don't know if anyone's mentioned this before but anyone noticed how she set up those beam reflectors as some sort of shield that prevented shamblo's beam from actually hitting delta plus and the unicorn? It's almost as if she wanted to die and just had to provoke riddhe/banagher to shoot her
gigadrill 3 months ago
@gigadrill
Hmm that's a possibility. Though another explanation could be that she lost complete control of the Shamblo, but still maintained control of the beam reflectors.
zetatrain 3 months ago
@zetatrain I think so too, and I think (although didnt have time to confirm atm) the colour of the psycho frame reflects the emotion of the pilot. Hence when Banagher was unconscious at the beginning of Ep2 and loses his will to fight here, it "shuts down". When he wants to fight, it's red, and Marida has it in yellow for a different emotion -- you can see Loni's turned blue from red when she said it's sad. We should see what green means later
stormmeansnowork 3 months ago
@stormmeansnowork
Interesting, though my idea is a little different. While Loni may have lost the will to fight at the last second, all her anger and hatred that was absorbed by they Shamblo's psychoframe had manifested itself to the point where it was the only thing controlling the Shamblo. Despite Loni's last second change, as far as the Shamblo was concerned, it was carrying out her final wish hence why it fired that last shot.
zetatrain 3 months ago
why Zeons almost have realistic Nazi's weapon feature? after Nazi-aliked Flag, Kampfer's "Panzerfaust", and now Zaku I Sniper have Replacable Gun barrel. just wait for character that resembles Hitler..
yellowmonkeyisme 3 months ago
@yellowmonkeyisme
Gihren Zabi has got you covered there. Hell, his father even compared him to Hitler, which Gihren takes as a complement.
zetatrain 3 months ago
@zetatrain just hate condition when federations are too superior and zeons are persons to blame & hate.
yellowmonkeyisme 3 months ago
@yellowmonkeyisme
Umm.. sorry but what do you mean by that post?
zetatrain 3 months ago
@zetatrain simply hate whe the "good" is win, and the "evil" lose.. (i kinda like a story when the villain are the winner.)
yellowmonkeyisme 2 months ago
@yellowmonkeyisme
Well the way I see it, neither side, federation or zeon/neo zeon, is good or evil. The remnants pretty much fought in vain just so that they could deliver one final "FUCK YOU" to the federation, despite the fact that it would change nothing. They didn't lose because the "good guys" had to win, they lost because they tried to fight a prolong battle in which they were basically throwing away their lives. In the end this outcome was the most likely one.
zetatrain 2 months ago
@zetatrain I agree with that no one is good or evil. They have different opinions and ways, it's not like a kid show where they make good and bad.
When I was little, I always thinked that there were good and bad ..
lyue1996 2 months ago
at this minute of the show i was staring in the screen just waiting what banaghers answer was for the people watching ep 4. zinnerman said people live along to forget the sadness but boy this show mass produces sadness T_T.
hariyomi 3 months ago
wow that beam gun was that powerful? even the delta arm was damaged
ZEO369 3 months ago
Banagher needs to man up.
PhobotechNG 3 months ago
@PhobotechNG Kid, I don't think you understand the idea of 'realism in characters'. The shit happening around them might not be realistic, but the characters sure as hell have a shitload of realism to them. Some people are born to fight, others are forced into it. Banagher was forced into it, he doesn't want to kill anyone, he is not a murderer. That is perfectly realistic as not even everyone in the real life army can shoot someone easily.
DarkCloud64 3 months ago
@DarkCloud64 Pardon me, "kid," but I'm 24 years old. You're also trying to argue realism into a sci-fi anime with giant bipedal robots, and my perspective on it is I can't wait for his character arc to mature. That would be great if this series included character development, just like the previous greats in the Gundam series like with Amuro Ray or Shiro Amada. I detest how he's a whiny little bitch now, hoping he'll be brave for the series climax. Now kindly take your pent up hormones elsewhere
PhobotechNG 3 months ago
@PhobotechNG Oh I'm sorry, i didn't realize you could tell the future and clearly knew something like this was impossible, because as far as human technology has come, it could very well happen in the next 300 years, regardless if we're alive or not. Beside that, I'm pretty sure when you were 15/16, you weren't thinking of going out and killing people. Pretty sure if I went back in time and dragged your teenage ass onto the battlefield, you'd be kicking and screaming to leave, afraid of it.
DarkCloud64 3 months ago
@DarkCloud64 Where is this attitude coming from? What are you trying to accomplish by arguing over this trivial bullshit? You're still bantering on supporting what you think is possible in a CARTOON. Listen to yourself. It's a wonderfully produced, awesomely entertaining show, there is no doubt. I don't care about what realistic way a kid would go through in the hells of war; I want my hero to be confident, and not annoying and whiny. That's MY opinion. Step off and worry about shit that matters
PhobotechNG 3 months ago
@PhobotechNG Funny, I don't remember mentioning what was real in an animation, I simply stated common sense back to a senseless moron that you don't know shit what the future will be like for us, and that this shit could be us someday. You also don't seem to understand realism in character development still. They developed this to be MORE realistic than the other Gundams in terms of character development, even if it is a short series of OVAs. Obviously you can't comprehend that though.
DarkCloud64 3 months ago
@DarkCloud64 You're calling me a moron over my opinions? Get laid, you waste of time.
PhobotechNG 3 months ago
@PhobotechNG When your opinions go against fact, it's quite clear that I have every right to call you a moron.
DarkCloud64 3 months ago
@DarkCloud64 "When opinions go against fact." All I said was "Banagher needs to man up," and you chose me to berate over on your little soap box. Nothing I say will be satisfactory for you, because you're on full-blown troll mode. Only in that insane mindset do you think you have any right to call someone a moron, through the anonymity of the internet where you're safe. Feverishly waiting for a response, so you can come out on top and "win" an argument you started on an anime video. Get a life.
PhobotechNG 3 months ago
@PhobotechNG The fact that you quite clearly have to come respond to me means that I must be trolling successfully. If you had any more of a life than myself, you wouldn't even take the time to respond.
DarkCloud64 3 months ago
@PhobotechNG not really whiny, more like questioning everyone around him about everything around him. Given that the guy had no father figure for a relative amount of time during his growth to teach him those things and as to why he got suddenly thrown into the chaos by his own father at that, and how the military works their ways just won't work for him since it contradicts his own personal beliefs... it's no wonder why Banagher's the way he is.
GenesicShinZyraelKai 2 months ago
@DarkCloud64 Banagher's a civilian right? Doesn't that make him a murderer if he continues on piloting a mobile suit yet not even assigned in the military? Cause I don't remember of having the license to kill be given to civilians that participate in sorties with soldiers... Even if it's war, a civilian is still a civilian not entitled the license to kill unless for defensive purposes or is rightfully given. :3
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ExileXCross 3 weeks ago
@GenesicShinZyraelKai
Explain mercenaries,
ExileXCross 3 weeks ago
@ExileXCross Mercenaries, paid to kill, murderer none the less... Also Banagher isn't a mercenary, he's not being paid by anyone to dispose off anyone. The license to kill is given to soldiers and is properly authorized inside the battlefield by the soldiers superiors, not outside it the battlefield by someone else.
GenesicShinZyraelKai 3 weeks ago
@GenesicShinZyraelKai try telling him that from inside the Kshatriya when the RX-0 is in NT-D Mode
RbtV92 3 weeks ago
@RbtV92 That still doesn't disprove my point... both parties are still considered murderers... regardless of what their reasons are
GenesicShinZyraelKai 3 weeks ago
@GenesicShinZyraelKai im not disproving your point Im jut ridiculing it. Anyone who takes the life of another is a murderer.
RbtV92 3 weeks ago
@RbtV92 my point exactly...
GenesicShinZyraelKai 3 weeks ago
@GenesicShinZyraelKai - Or unless they pulled a "Kira Yamato" into him in this anime, since I heard in the novel version that Banagher was able to shoot Loni since it she made him do it :P.
maverickhunterdelta 2 weeks ago
@maverickhunterdelta well you know how anime are... unless the anime is an anime only exclusive, several changes to either plot, character design or character personality will be made.... I actually think it suits the chain of events more rather than him having to shoot Loni
GenesicShinZyraelKai 2 weeks ago
@GenesicShinZyraelKai - Unless you already watched all the recent gundam series, and know what Banagher should've thought what Mr. Daguza talked him in the last episode. For me or for anyone else, we know how disappointed THIS episode was.
maverickhunterdelta 2 weeks ago
@maverickhunterdelta meh to each our own I guess... but I do know the feeling of disappointment you're talking about when certain plot lines from visual novels I played get changed drastically when they get their anime form... -_- some of the important lines between characters are lost when that happens, so I'm guessing that's what happened here...
GenesicShinZyraelKai 2 weeks ago
@GenesicShinZyraelKai - Man, stop saying the usual "to each of our own" or "its our opinion" I get that ALREADY! lol. What I'm saying is that Banaghery hasn't LEARNED his lesson from what Mr. Daguza said to him from episode 3. They constantly hammered his "hypocritical" actions in THIS EPISODE. I just "heard" in the novel, not know. Yes I get it about anime, but to constantly and quickly make the character hand-fisted his ego on "STOP FIGHTING" is a disappointment. :P
maverickhunterdelta 2 weeks ago
@GenesicShinZyraelKai - Now I am not talking about the comparisons of the novel to anime now, just saying that everyone I've met were disappointed on how they treated his character in this episode. Please get and know what I mean next time lol.
maverickhunterdelta 2 weeks ago
@maverickhunterdelta hahaha... he's getting there, learning his lesson from Daguza, but not so immediately. And him being a hypocrite might serve a surprise or something when he 'awakens' or something like that.
Also I get the feeling that most of the people you talked too, including you, are afraid of the Kira Yamato effect... :3 The effect in which the main protagonist tries to stop the fighting by using a gundam. XD
GenesicShinZyraelKai 2 weeks ago
@GenesicShinZyraelKai - Not only that, but kira pretty much doesn't change throughout over the course of destiny and they wasted out on Shinn's character development. Now don't tell me that you weren't gotten sick of THAT effect :P.
maverickhunterdelta 2 weeks ago
@maverickhunterdelta
True but there are some stark contrasts between Banagher and Kira. Banagher's naivete is portrayed as a huge character flaw that he must overcome where as Kira's "fighting is bad" stance is not presented as being naive but being in the right.
zetatrain 2 weeks ago
@zetatrain - I already know that.... damnit. I was saying it to HIM (not you) HIM. They just made him more of a disappointment HERE IN THIS EPISODE. Get with the program lol.
maverickhunterdelta 2 weeks ago
@maverickhunterdelta
Calm down man, I know you weren't talking to me, doesn't mean I can't cut in to add a few details
zetatrain 2 weeks ago
@zetatrain - Yea I know, but why state "right away: the details? You could've just ASK me before you jump in lol. Anyone here in the internet could actually say to you, "DERP I knew that!" or "thanks for pointing out the obvious there captain." :P
maverickhunterdelta 2 weeks ago
@zetatrain Oh and remember as well. A lot of fans (including you and me) have already exposed to the SEED/DESTINY universe. How will we supposed to "forgive" that Banagher's naivete is portrayed as a huge character flaw, SINCE THAT FLAW actually reminds us and our memories on freaking Jesus Yamato. Speaking of which, I thought the writers made Banagher learned his lesson from Angelo and Mr. Daguza from the previous episodes... seems to me that they pulled a fast one in his "flaw"
maverickhunterdelta 2 weeks ago