Scotland is a rich country, yet many Scottish people are poor. Scotland has a surplus of energy, yet many Scottish people struggle to heat their homes. Scotland produces an educated workforce thanks to our tradition of free education for all, yet Scots are forced to emigrate to find work. Why is that if the Union has been so great for us?
Oil companies under-estimate oil resources, they don't over-estimate. It's simple business logic. In addition, there are issues of commercial secrecy, so oil companies are loathe to admit just how much is left. However most available estimates claim that the remaining worth of known oil deposits runs into the trillions of dollars. we could use it to create an oil-fund for Scotland to develop our economy for when the oil runs out.
The only difference between Salmond and Nick Griffin is the accent! And dont be seduced you jocks because you are being led like donkeys by the village idiot into fiscal oblivion! Fact, 4.5 million on Scotland, the exchequer raises £40 billion and Scotland spends £78 either via the Assembly or by benefits from central UK. 70% of jobs are UK based and will come to England after partition. Greed, sheer greed is driving the jock nationalists!
@MrMickroach The focus on Alex Salmond is insulting to the intelligence of the Scottish electorate. The implication is that we're too stupid to realise we're being taken in by a snake-oil salesman. However Scots have already realised we've been taken in by snake-oil salesmen - the problem for the Unionist case is that they're all in the Westminster parties.
@thehappyhacker1 With that diatribe, my argument is proven! It beggars belief that Scotalnd already takes more than its fair share of the dibbs, yet you want more
@MrMickroach Why not read the McCrone Report or perhaps the GERS report, that's right you like to get your information from the same people who want to keep the union for their own ends,
@thehappyhacker1 I would add that, you would be misguided if you believe that oil brought ashore in Scotland, is Scotlands oil! When Salmond hikes the tax up, it will be diverted to Middlesborough and Tyneside! That is the sheer arrogance of the Scots. Like a woman, what your is ours and whats mine is MINES! I see you like to take the piss, best you fuck off quickly and hump someone elses leg!
I'm from Wales and i hope Scotland remains with us. We are an Island nation our borders are quite defined - The sea.
Don't buy into the romantic-braveheart inspired shite that Salond sweet-talks you. The benefits and advantages of being linked to the rest of GB are endless, compared to what..?? A dwindling Oil reserve?
Defence industry, Ship building, as well as the numerous advantages of being linked to London
The Oil/debt debate will be hugely devisive and cause years of resentment on both sides of the border. We have got to sit down around a table and hammer out an agreement that both sides can live with.
Everyone know Scotland will leave UK to join EU and do you really think they will care what Scotland thinks also i check information published by oil companies and it says 83% is Scottish oil and the rest is England don't know where you got the 90% from also you are going to take RBS which close UK £45.5bn to bail out well it is a Scottish bank (it has Scotland in name)
Scotland needs independance as a scotsman i believe scotland will do amazing and to be honest westminster are making it look like they want the union too last but they really want scotland to go too. i love brittain but tbh things dont last forever its time to move on.
A vote for independence is a vote for lasting prosperity. A vote against independence is a vote for Tory or New Labour for ever, and a vote for the continued squandering of Scotland's money.
North Sea oil will be redundant in a post independent Scottish economy. If the Scottish governments aspirations go to plan, Scotland will run 100% on renewable energy by 2020. Studies show that off shore power in Scotland is probable to generate 3x the wind energy the nation needs. That would make Scotland a net exporter. Thus generating 10s of billions in revenue, and that would easily beat the 13.4% 14 billion GDP deficit IF you excluded north sea oil in 2010. A surplus is easily achievable.
@MrKinloch999 "Denmark is one of the biggest users of renewable energy in the world, with the sector comprising around 500 Danish companies, employing 32,000 people (21,000 in wind technology alone) and bringing in annual revenues of $10 billion, according to Danish government figures." - "Scotland also has unrivalled marine resources and has 25% of Europe's tidal energy capabilities and 10% of its wave resource."
@MrKinloch999 not really, as several factors conspire against this. Firstly, wind turbines and the like are in their infancy, and will have a hard time producing enough energy unless you cover the sea and land in acres of the things. Secondly, Scotland will still need conventional power from north sea gas ,coal etc, as the wind doesn't blow non stop, and as I said before, unless you have masses of turbines it would be almost impossible to achieve those goals in the foreseable future for Scotland
It has been categorically proved for years in the likes of Denmark, Iceland, Norway and Germany that renewable energy works and creates massive a surplus of energy, tell that to the people on the island on Samsø in Denmark, but you have probably never heard of that because you don't know shit about recent advances. . As a Englishman, it baffles why Scots are so self hating about this, Scotland has the privilege to be in a country with the strongest wind potential.
@G6Colours Your condemning of the intermittence of wind energy has also been disputed. Obsolete designs are being replaced by new and better all the time. It's a known fact that all sources power are intermittent, there is no power plant that is available 100% of the time.. That is why electric grids are built with this in mind. Wind power only has a failure rate of 1 to 2 % and units rarely go down at once.
@G6Colours Wind is also predictable, reason why a lot of people are investing in Scotland because wind is a constant. It should be a honour to be the leading country in this, Some people are just jelly because Scotland can be a real leader in off shore and on shore wind and prosper very well. The country is already running 20% with high success rate's. People should really stop reading The Sun.
Your condemning of the intermittence of wind energy has also been disputed. Obsolete designs are being replaced by new and better all the time. It's a known fact that all sources power are intermittent, there is no power plant that is available 100% of the time. That is why electric grids are built with this in mind. Wind power only has a failure rate of 1 to 2 % and units rarely go down at once. Wind is also predictable, reason why a lot of people are investing in Scotland.
@G6Colours Yes, the scotchmen can do very good, many villages benefit here in Germany. The nuclear disaster in Fukushima has made people very worried, and we have reaped many benefits. Certain progressive green people are quite envious of very good harvest possible transformation in sscochland :DDD Freedoms!!
Of course the Scottish have a right to be independent. I doubt it'll happen but thats my opinion. Someone commented that the English are in an uncomfortable situation because they don't want to admit or be provoked into admitting Scotland do not have a right to independence - did you make that up? Let me remind you parliament is made up of countless Scottish mp's that contribute what happens in England AND Scotland.
Awww poor scotland wants independence bless ya the rest of unitedkindom would be better of with out anyway there always blaming the english for everythink.
The oil should be given to the English. But they cant get the resource from English waters. They can not ask for the share from the oils spent over 30 years by the English. However they will get the share of English debt. And England wont even let you vote so there ya go.
Of course it will be long winded argument that's one reason why salmond wants the referendum in 2014 to negotiate these issues all of this will surface in time so why don't you wait until it does before you start spouting off about how Scotland is not strong enough to stand on its own two feet. Go join in with the EDL/national front/BNP you will fit in there.
Also how on earth can you plan to sue us for giving you back. Trident. That is laughable. If anything Scottish companies will profit by charging Westminster for either it's decommissioning or it's relocation. Before you spout such ignorant racism remember that every condescending comment you make or patronising jibe you make only forces scots into wanting independence even more. Until the english can recognise scots as equal then independence remains inevitable.
Funny that! Scots mouth off about how bad we English are and the second we respond we're being "Anti Scottish". Part of me wants you lot to go independant so I can laugh at you in a few years when you get into trouble, when that happens dont expect anyone in England, Wales or N.Ireland to put any pennies into your sporrons
@ToonandBBfan Some Scots mouth off about the English the same as some English mouth off about the Scots which just proves there are assholes on both sides of the border. Nothing new there.
Part of you wants Scotland to regain it's independence, what does the other part see in hanging onto a union when quite obviously you don't see Scotland as being able to survive on it's own without help from Enland, Wales and Northern Ireland?
@ToonandBBfan Of course it will but if you want the Scots out of the union then that will be a small price to pay.
But, it will be sorted. Of that there is no doubt.
Scotland and England will survive together or apart, of that there is no doubt. Our two countries will always be close as there are so many Scots in England and so many English in Scotland. So many mariages between our citizens of our two great countries happily cohabitting.
It will change our relationship!. Alex Salmond would have Scots believe it will be so easy, hence why he wants the voting age dropped to 16 (kids that age are naive and easily swayed)
@ToonandBBfan A lot of people are easily swayed no matter how old they are, as in, "oh I like that so and so, he's a really nice man/woman so i'll vote for him/her, nothing to do with their politics", but if 16 year olds can join the army and are deemed mature enough mentally to legally indulge in sexual relationships both heterosexual and homosexual then why are they then so immature that they cannot vote on the future of their own country?
@N330AA Nope, I am saying that legal maturity should be across the board.
How can someone say they are not mature enough to vote yet are mature enough to have sex lifes, go join the army with the possibility of dying for their country.
Are they at 16 mature enough to make these decisions, according to the Government they are so why not let them vote in a refurendum.
That's not just what i think, 90% of ns oil has been deemed to be in Scottish waters by all international treaties/organisations that have looked at the matter. I'm sorry but these guys have much greater authority than your petty Westminster mob who still thinks that Britain rules the world. Of course we will accept our share of debt our budget already has that taken into consideration you fool
I still dont think you understand what a long winded legal wrangle these oil fields will be - believe you me, Westminister will do everything to trip you up. Scots seem to think independance will be so easy and straight forward but it wont. Then theres the issue of Armed forces Pensions, these men have served Scotland just as much as the rest of the UK
We also know that £50 billion of North Sea oil revenue will flow to London over the coming six years — more than during the previous six, and £10 billion up on the Treasury’s previous forecast. The UK is only being kept afloat at all by Scottish oil. That alone represents over £20,000 for every household in Scotland
@N330AA Your just being daft now, he would have never made it & Scotia doesn't invade other nations, that's a Brit thing, that is the key part to remember, the Brit State was put together for empire. Well, the empire, its goosed! So its back to Scotland & England, mind you, you've got Wales too. Ach well, hard luck mate!
@TheGersroolz I'm being daft but you don't know the difference between "your" and "you're"?
How can you say it's not a Scottish thing when Blair was Scottish? You going to have to come up with a point a lot more convincing than that.
BTW Scotland had a go at Empires too. The only difference is it was a total failure, and after that failure which bankrupted the country, the Scottish aristocracy went pleading to the English to wipe out their debts if they joined a union.
@N330AA Really Your or You're now you ARE being picky. What empire did Scotland have a go at then? A trading post that was in modern day Panama was not an empire. Blair's nationality on his Passport is British not Scottish because a smarty pants such as you will no Scotia in't a nation state & of course neither is Englandshire.
Check the facts England itself was skint prior to the Darien adventure but wanted Scotland on board so ensured it played its part in the scheme's failure.
@TheGersroolz So war is not a Scottish thing, it's British, and when a Scottish PM coerces Britain into a war he's no longer Scottish he's British because he has a British passport - like every Scot in the world. Terrific work mate.
Incidently, as of now, the Union staying put is winning the polls, and you're going to have do a lot better than calling Westminster Nazis to change that.
At least you've figured out the difference between you're and your though.
@N330AA I'm not a Yank therefore I don't figure things out, I work them out! Now fuck off & teach English to someone who give a toss! Scotia will be out of the London Nazi Nest in the very near future, Nazi polls or otherwise, now enjoy, ya fanny! LOL
@N330AA They passed a law banning English investors investing in it & contrary to the Goebbels propaganda emanating out of the London Nazi nest, it was the English who offered the traders there money lost if they joined a union, they wanted it for empire- a fact! The amount lost was not even a third of Scottish GDP.
But look mate, I couldn't give a fuck about the union or the fuckin British State, it is fuckin finished, so do me a favour & go find someone that gives a toss about YOUR views! GTF
Enjoy your share of the national debt you'll be saddled with (anywhere between 100 and 150 Billion depending on hows it calculated). Then we'll sue you for the cost of re-housing the trident base from Faslane.
@ToonandBBfan sue you for the cost of re-housing the trident base from Faslane<< best of luck with that fantasy, Let somone park thrir car in yer garage. have a disagreement, then you have to build them a new garage, now if you want to talk about suing for compenastion lets start with clean up costs at Faslane and every other part of our country you have shat on. Fact is whithout scots subsiidies you cant afford trident or much else for that matter try the 51st state option england USA
@danonutube1"the national debt " our share, not as much as you may think, Bank debt, UK fuck up mean its yours, and have a wee look>>We also know that £50 billion of North Sea oil revenue will flow to London over the coming six years — more than during the previous six, and £10 billion up on the Treasury’s previous forecast. The UK is only being kept afloat at all by Scottish oil. That alone represents over £20,000 for every household in Scotland ..or should i say coming to Edinburgh soon
@danonutube1 leading Professor of Economics, Andrew Hughes Hallett, has sensationally confirmed that Scotland has been subsidising the UK treasury in London for years. Hallett also rubbished claims by Labour politicians that an independent Scotland could not have survived the banking crisis by explaining that much of the liabilities suffered by HBOS and RBS would have fallen on England
@danonutube1 And there are plenty of precedents for that. The Dutch-French banks and the Belgium-French Banks that went bankrupt had to be bailed out jointly by the responsible authorities, and so it would have been shared,, and dont forget yer English banks that that went bust, Fact is Scotlands actual liability if any is very small, UK govtsold off cheap the profitable part of northern rock yet were still left with the cost of original N.R debts so that stays with UK govt
life day to day will not change for anyone if scotland (one of the most prosperous regions of the UK) is independent. what will change is out ability to stand tall in the world. i would sooner be part of the united kingdom (with or without the english) than i would within the EU or much worse... alone in the world. union today, union tomorrow. UNION FOREVER!!!!
The Oil Is NOT Scottish. Its BRITISH. If these SNP jokers think that Westminister will let them walk away with it they are even stupidier than they look!
@222macgregor I've seen you claim to be an American on other videos you lying, hi-jacking Yankee Doodle cunt, you are likely a foreigner with no native birthright to anything to do with Scotland.
I am now a registered American citizen, my wife and children are American, and I am proud to now be an American. However, I remain fiercely proud of my national country of birth.
@222macgregor If any of that's true, fair enough, but many are sick of people ripping off stuff and hi-jackers, usually Americans who's one grand mother or who ever was Scottish believe that makes them the exact same person on a nationality basis.
You should stop acting like a child and begin to appreciate the good that comes from having Scottish culture throughout the world. There is an estimated 25 million Scottish-Americans, 5 million Scottish-Canadians and millions between Australia and New Zealand.
Scots-Canadians and Scots-Americans pump millions into the Scottish economy every year through tourism and imports on such items as Scotch whisky, clothing and food.
@222macgregor Scottish culture only exists in Scotland, the clue is in the name, what you describe as 'Scottish culture' is in actual fact inaccurate and badly outdated stereotypes that are full of rubbish. Scotland is not in America and America is not in Scotland, Ireland is not Scottish and Scotland is not Irish either, completely different nations in their own right with their own national identity.
There is no such thing as a 'Scots-American' or 'Scots-Canadian' -- I had a good laugh there.
@222macgregor Yanks and Canucks are no more relevant to the Scottish economy than England and Wales, England are the biggest tourists in Scotland, then Indian, not Yanks.
There are almost 5 and a half million Scots in the world, not 25 million.
Scotland promotes themselves as it's a Scottish job not a Yankee job, what Yankees do is 'pretend' and 'high-jack'.
There is no highland games anywhere else except in Scotland, the highlands are in Scotland, no where else in the world.
@222macgregor You should stop being a childish Braveheart fantasist Yankee, and be proud of your own nation, and not steal other peoples nationalities, it just makes you look even more pathetic and inferior to be yourself or a Yank/Canuck in general.
@222macgregor Even if you are native to Scotland through birth (which you likely aren't), you no relevance to Scotland as you don't live in Scotland or contribute anything tax wise.
Stop hi-jacking other nations Yankee bastard foreigner.
There is a Scottish Highland Games and Festival which takes place in every US State and attracts average crowds of around 10,000+. For example, my local games attracts an audience of 22,000 every year.
We promote Scotland more than the native Scots do.
the strongest case for independence is the fact the whole country from head to toe pretty much voted snp or labour yet we are governed by a tory government in the south - how can we fight for democracy overseas when this massive problem is on our own soil
The oil is not Scottish. Belongs to exploration companies who sell it on. The licences issued are under national control, even they're a one off payment. Technically it belongs to the Crown and revenues go to the treasury. If Scotland wants independence, they can't have the oil unless it comes from the land not sea. If Scotland went with independence and claimed oil that's not theirs as their own, they could repay the billions of UK taxpayer money that saved banks that DO belong to them
@happyuk06 So what you are saying is that when Scotland becomes independent, the Rump UK will continue to take the oil, even though it will be 90% within Scottish Terrirorial and EEZ waters as specified by the UN? What have you been smoking?
Be careful what you wish for. North Sea oil is a UK asset, that is becoming increasingly more expensive to extract as time goes on. No such thing as "Scottish" waters either. It is the scots inherent clannishness that holds them back.. Perhaps also their long history of poor diet, obesity, sectarian bigotry, heroin addiction, tight-fistedness and gloominess. All politicians are suspect, SNP no exception.
@happyuk06 Ok, this is going to bake your noodle. The UK stands for 'United Kingdom'. Once Scotland leaves the 'United' Kingdom, then there will no longer be a 'United Kingdom' only the Kindom of England / Walesand NI. Therefore the Oil will not be a UK asset. Hey Presto! See what I did there? it's fun to learn things eh? Your Anti-Scottish rant bit is a little lame. I think you are just projecting your emotional need to riot.
@happyuk06 by the way, can you please arrange a refund of all RBS taxes dating back to the year 1727? it should be several hundred billion pounds. Scotland would appreciate that. Then we can pay you for the bailout, buy bank the bank and keep the rest, deal? after all, it was never a UK bank was it?
Exactly ! Oil and Gas and there tellinng you your broke ? Thats the Bankers telling you that, like they tell us here , we owe trillions when noo one around ever even seen the money . wait maybe oone of those Iluminate Bankers in there 100 million dollar cruiser .
What the Scots don't want to realise, is that most of the English want Scotland to be independent as well. More so do the Shetland's who don't want Scotland to have their oil.
Somehow though I cant see pro EU Alex Salmond agreeing to the Shetland Islands getting what they want. The irony is, that if Scotland is independent under the rule of the SNP they will end up with less autonomy than they have now & will be sucked into the United States of Europe & subject to their increasing domination.
@ALBIONTYKE I think the Scots tbh really don't care what most English people think on something that has nothing at all to do with them. And this thing about Shetland wanting their oil is complete bullshit.
I take a keen interest in Scottish politics and read the news on a daily basis from all media resources and i have yet to hear anything about the Shetland Islanders wanting to leave Scotland and keep their oil. I have no idea where you got that from. *CONTINUED*
@glasgow1234 Firstly I am not southern English & got my info about the Shetlands from numerous sites made by Shetlanders themselves, just Google it. Also the Shetlanders did vote against the Common Market FACT, look it up yourself! As for the EU, phew have you been taken in by the corrupt corporatists or what? The EU is for ambitious politicians who put their own country second, ask the Irish, having lived 3 years in Waterford until recently I can tell you they detest Brussels with venom .cont
@ALBIONTYKE I've did your google search and found nothing except some rich loony who declared a small island in the shetlands as independent. Why don't you message me with all these numerous sites made by Shetlanders themselves? It's also a fact that the good people of the Shetlands have voted Liberal Democrat for 50 years !!! and phew have you been taken in by the UKIP, and other far right southern toffs who don't want to share power with anybody.
@glasgow1234 No you cant have there are so many. Google exactly this "INDEPENDANCE FOR THE SHETLANDS" Also you dont get any toffs in Yorkshire lad, I am pretty well travelled & the worst toffs I have ever come across are in your capital. Lol- How have the Shetlanders voted Liberal Democrat over the last 50 years, they have only been in existence for less than half that period. You need to do some research son. As for independence, your own city is spilt in loyalty what chance has Scotland got?
@ALBIONTYKE The Shetlands have voted Liberal Democrat and their predecessors the Liberal Party since 1950, longer than any other they represent in the UK. Hardly a party they would vote for if they wanted independence! I am also pretty well travelled and the worst toffs i have ever come across are in the very south east of your country. I don't write anything at all without researching. My own city is split in loyalty? Whats that meant to mean?
@glasgow1234 300K people who wave the Union flag, 200K who wave the Tricolour & 300K who wave the St Andrews flag is hardly a united ethos. As for you support of the Queen, man the monarchy are the underlying problem of all the crap we are in. They are in bed with the Rothschild's & have been since the Battle of Waterloo. The British Establishment are per head more prevalent in Scotland than England look at Freemasonary for example. Who are the executors of the Bank of England Nominees Ltd?
@ALBIONTYKE Typical southern English attitude about the EU. The EU would completely transform Scotland. We would be an independent sovereign state making our own decisions and playing our part in the European family of nations, instead of being a region of the UK with our half way government but still not able to govern our own finances. The majority of Scots are PRO European. We don't want to exclude and isolate ourselves like the majority of people in England do.
@glasgow1234 cont2/ Your unelected leader Herman van Rumpoy is heading a quasi Marxist superstate, that has no regard for individual culture or prosperity. Do you think he gives a shit about Scotland? The international banksters run the EU through orchestrated debt & fear. Their goal is a United States of Europe & to hell with your identity, so the banks can have total control over all of us. Salmond is just another bribed puppet playing into the Zionist ( not Jewish) hands & the fucking Queen
@ALBIONTYKE The Scottish media are not like the BBC and other southern media outlets. If there were huge support for Shetland independence then it would be all over the Scottish media. I searched google like you said and found a few newspaper reports from 2008 and a joke forum from 2007. Hardly Shetland islanders screaming for independence is it? If a majority of the islanders want independence then they would get our support, but at the minute there is no huge independence movement in Shetland.
It would be good for England if Scotland goes independent. They will be richer and more powerful, wont have any Scottish people voting for things in England, they could finally leave the EU etc...
Both countries will still work together, its not like independence means we will not be freinds :)
Former US Senate candidate B.W. Miller says, "Our goal is to control all of Europe. We have troops in most European countries and the ironic thing is these Europeans think we are there to help protect them. The Devil's best trick was convincing the world he didn't exist. We are sociopaths, not capitalists. We either control the world or we will destroy it."
Thumbs up. Byt olease do not have that Queen be your head of State. She is nasty. She is head of State of over 24 nations, and its time for her to go.
@pluto4847 I would rather have a seperate Scottish Monarch but that is almost impossible. The British Monarchy is also the Scottish Monarchy as England and Scotland's monarchies were united before the government were. So i want to see an end to the political union but not an end to the Royal union as Queen Elizabeth II is our Queen. She would have the new title of Queen of Scots in an independent Scotland. A Scottish republic is not very popular in Scotland.
@ALBIONTYKE Nobody in Scotland really took notice of that poll that asked English people about Scottish independence. Nobody really cares whether there are more English who want us to be independent than Scots..... Perhaps, instead of taking an interest in Scotland's current affairs, the people of England should really be concentrating on their own country and getting it back into order.
what the SNP fail to point out is that Scotland has profited on British taxpayers aswell, Scottish NHS, Scottish public schools, Scottish public services have come from UK taxes, Scotland has profited from the UK just as much as UK has profited from Scotland.
@98raza20 Furthermore, this union was created by Scotland. Whether talking about the 17th century when the king of Scotland united the crowns, or at the biginning of the 18th century when Scotland needed England's empirial trading routes throught the world as well as the financial and economic backing of England after Scotland came close 2 bankruptcy after unfortunately failing to create an empire of its own. After the act of union 1707, Scotland's fortunes soared due to uniting with England
Scotland and England are simply two different countries living under a treaty that has passed it's sell by date and resulted into it's present state of rancidness.
Scotland has Vast extended Oil feilds all over all sides of it's coasts. And filled with resources and the best renewable energy possibilities in the world.
SNP are currently aiming to re-industrialise Scotland again.
This could potentially re-verse most of, and in time, all of the damage that the English Tories caused in Scotland.
That's 100% true, "Britain is an artificial state, not Scotland or England", the London elite will try to propagate that this is not the case though, but it is, it was stated for all times on the act of Union 1707, and Scottish sovereignty has remained intact in the ratified union through out all this time.
I tried that thing today at the petrol station where you try and stop the pump bang on what you want to pay, but let it go a fraction too late and it stopped on £20.03.
"Bollocks!" I shouted and walked into the shop to pay.
"Unlucky, mate," smiled the attendant, who'd seen what I'd done. "Don't worry about the extra."
"Cheers, mate," I said as I handed him my tenner and fucked off.
@wtfjaftw Sorry, but that's nonsense. Without the EPA, without the FDA without all these regulatory commissions, how are we going to stand up to the corporate cartels? Just stop buying food and oil, to spite them? You think you as an average citizen would have a chance of competing with Coca Cola?
I'm sure some current corporate lackeys wouldn't like it, but corporations themselves would soon run the place. You don't seem to explain how corporations, given free reign, would suddenly fall?
@wtfjaftw And when the libertarians take over and give complete control to the corporations you will see, corruption has the same result regardless who is in charge. And trust me there will always be someone in charge, exploiting the poor and helping their corrupt buddies stay in power, as long as there are human beings on this planet. They may be American, European, Chinese, they may be conservatives or liberals or libertarians, but the result will be the same.
'Scotland has got no oil theres barely any left so its insane to think you could just split off and be better off '
It is not just about the Oil but statement is utter garbage never the less. There is a least the same amount of Oil again that the British have stolen over the last 35+ years.
@wtfjaftw No I didn't say anything like that. In fact I didn't say I "loved" the current government either.
This is why debating anything on Youtube is such a pointless act. People seem to be able to think only in extremes. They assume they know what you're thinking before you've even spoken.
To conservatives, I'm a commie, to liberals I'm a corporate whore, to libertarians I'm a government stooge. That's the result of having moderate ideas.
@wtfjaftw So what you're saying is because we let our governments get so corrupt that they are no longer an effective control on the private sector, the solution is not to fix the corruption but to remove all controls altogether and pray the corporations will not destroy what's left of our environment and society. Sounds like a solid plan.
You know I hear some people prank call 911 which costs the taxpayer money. Does that mean we should dissolve all emergency services?
Scotland has got no oil theres barely any left so its insane to think you could just split off and be better off economically the reforms would leave Scotland with no armed forces barely and all them shipbuilding and manufacturers would go bust and we would lose are UN seat you would have less taxes to spend the Economies are so interlinked it would probably cause another recession for us fantastic etc i could be here all day with negatives as there are far less positives for you
@BigGee84 OK, how about you looks up the GERS report from Westminster. It proves that Scotland has been running a surplus with all the cash we send to London, meanwhile the UK average is highly in debt. Are you telling me that Scotland, with only 5.2 million people, yet 33% of the GB landmass, 90% of the Oil and Gas + 25% of all Europe renewable energy, is a poor country? give me a break. Take your anti-Scottishness and go hide it along with the McCrone Report. (Google that).
@dauntless111 This persecution complex seems to be a common theme among Scottish 'nationalists'. What I find tragic is that those in Scotland who don't want independence daren't speak out lest they be labelled unpatriotic or, dare I say it, pro-English. Such is the current state of affairs in Scotland. The nationalist movement seems to be rooted in Anti-Englishness and bigotry, and you wonder why we don't take you seriously.
@BigGee84 No persecution complex here dude, most Scots have English friends and family so give that one up right now. I have been a UK unionist most of my adult life and I always spoke out, i still have my limbs and teeth intact so.... ??? You bold statements are all false, we will be independent, responsible and autonomous under our same Queen. Queen of Scots. You our English brothers will have your chance too. I suggest you take it. Saor Alba and FREE ENGLAND!
@BigGee84 I am suggesting otherwise. Mate, there are plenty of people in Scotland who are pro-union and pro SNP. There are even a fair number of Tories and Labour supporters, all unionists. Also, we have Union Jacks/Flags, all over the place! Have you ever viited Scotland? sounds like you are spouting stereotypes to me.
@BigGee84 Hey man, sorry I did not respond, that video is superb! I bet if I drove a banger into the middle of an English housing estate covered in Scottish flags, it would not be too long before it got trashed also. Bravo, for making my point for me.
@dauntless111 So you're suggesting the anti-Scottish sentiment in a typical English housing estate is on the same level the anti-English sentiment demonstrated by the video? Very, very unlikely.
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georgeuk94 1 week ago
This is the guy that let the Libyan mass murderer go free.
AlbaSiar 3 weeks ago
Scotland is a rich country, yet many Scottish people are poor. Scotland has a surplus of energy, yet many Scottish people struggle to heat their homes. Scotland produces an educated workforce thanks to our tradition of free education for all, yet Scots are forced to emigrate to find work. Why is that if the Union has been so great for us?
thehappyhacker1 3 weeks ago in playlist scottish independence
Oil companies under-estimate oil resources, they don't over-estimate. It's simple business logic. In addition, there are issues of commercial secrecy, so oil companies are loathe to admit just how much is left. However most available estimates claim that the remaining worth of known oil deposits runs into the trillions of dollars. we could use it to create an oil-fund for Scotland to develop our economy for when the oil runs out.
thehappyhacker1 3 weeks ago in playlist scottish independence
The only difference between Salmond and Nick Griffin is the accent! And dont be seduced you jocks because you are being led like donkeys by the village idiot into fiscal oblivion! Fact, 4.5 million on Scotland, the exchequer raises £40 billion and Scotland spends £78 either via the Assembly or by benefits from central UK. 70% of jobs are UK based and will come to England after partition. Greed, sheer greed is driving the jock nationalists!
MrMickroach 3 weeks ago
@MrMickroach The focus on Alex Salmond is insulting to the intelligence of the Scottish electorate. The implication is that we're too stupid to realise we're being taken in by a snake-oil salesman. However Scots have already realised we've been taken in by snake-oil salesmen - the problem for the Unionist case is that they're all in the Westminster parties.
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@thehappyhacker1 With that diatribe, my argument is proven! It beggars belief that Scotalnd already takes more than its fair share of the dibbs, yet you want more
MrMickroach 3 weeks ago
@MrMickroach Why not read the McCrone Report or perhaps the GERS report, that's right you like to get your information from the same people who want to keep the union for their own ends,
thehappyhacker1 3 weeks ago in playlist scottish independence
@thehappyhacker1 Believe you me old son, most English people wnt shot of the whinging caledonians, except we know that it will end in tears like 1707
MrMickroach 3 weeks ago
@thehappyhacker1 I would add that, you would be misguided if you believe that oil brought ashore in Scotland, is Scotlands oil! When Salmond hikes the tax up, it will be diverted to Middlesborough and Tyneside! That is the sheer arrogance of the Scots. Like a woman, what your is ours and whats mine is MINES! I see you like to take the piss, best you fuck off quickly and hump someone elses leg!
MrMickroach 3 weeks ago
@MrMickroach And the insults start... Yes i have already moved on to your mother and it's not her leg i'm humping.
thehappyhacker1 3 weeks ago
@thehappyhacker1 No insults from me old son!
MrMickroach 3 weeks ago
give this guy a star !!
FraserMGZR 3 weeks ago
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With Nessie disproved they need that oil money to save there economy
this might work if was the same time the Arab states discovered there oil but now
The world is moving away from oil now so ...
WONGA2012 3 weeks ago
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WONGA2012 3 weeks ago
I'm from Wales and i hope Scotland remains with us. We are an Island nation our borders are quite defined - The sea.
Don't buy into the romantic-braveheart inspired shite that Salond sweet-talks you. The benefits and advantages of being linked to the rest of GB are endless, compared to what..?? A dwindling Oil reserve?
Defence industry, Ship building, as well as the numerous advantages of being linked to London
slothgoonies 3 weeks ago 3
Basing your entire economy on a single commodity that is volatile in price and finite in supply is a step backwards for Scotland."
spamulike123 3 weeks ago 8
FUCK ALEX SALMOND
FUCK THE SNP
SCOTLAND IN BRITAIN FOREVER
UNITED WE STAND
steven8hamilton 3 weeks ago
@steven8hamilton im gonna fkn stabb u cunt !
FraserMGZR 3 weeks ago
@FraserMGZR
Just you wait till the Orangemen take up arms
steven8hamilton 3 weeks ago
@steven8hamilton
United we fall.
EqualityScotland 3 weeks ago
The Oil/debt debate will be hugely devisive and cause years of resentment on both sides of the border. We have got to sit down around a table and hammer out an agreement that both sides can live with.
mattwho81 1 month ago
Everyone know Scotland will leave UK to join EU and do you really think they will care what Scotland thinks also i check information published by oil companies and it says 83% is Scottish oil and the rest is England don't know where you got the 90% from also you are going to take RBS which close UK £45.5bn to bail out well it is a Scottish bank (it has Scotland in name)
1Banerjee 1 month ago
Scotland needs independance as a scotsman i believe scotland will do amazing and to be honest westminster are making it look like they want the union too last but they really want scotland to go too. i love brittain but tbh things dont last forever its time to move on.
techmaniac1991 1 month ago
A vote for independence is a vote for lasting prosperity. A vote against independence is a vote for Tory or New Labour for ever, and a vote for the continued squandering of Scotland's money.
bluecanary1note 1 month ago
North Sea oil will be redundant in a post independent Scottish economy. If the Scottish governments aspirations go to plan, Scotland will run 100% on renewable energy by 2020. Studies show that off shore power in Scotland is probable to generate 3x the wind energy the nation needs. That would make Scotland a net exporter. Thus generating 10s of billions in revenue, and that would easily beat the 13.4% 14 billion GDP deficit IF you excluded north sea oil in 2010. A surplus is easily achievable.
MrKinloch999 1 month ago
@MrKinloch999 "Denmark is one of the biggest users of renewable energy in the world, with the sector comprising around 500 Danish companies, employing 32,000 people (21,000 in wind technology alone) and bringing in annual revenues of $10 billion, according to Danish government figures." - "Scotland also has unrivalled marine resources and has 25% of Europe's tidal energy capabilities and 10% of its wave resource."
MrKinloch999 1 month ago
@MrKinloch999 not really, as several factors conspire against this. Firstly, wind turbines and the like are in their infancy, and will have a hard time producing enough energy unless you cover the sea and land in acres of the things. Secondly, Scotland will still need conventional power from north sea gas ,coal etc, as the wind doesn't blow non stop, and as I said before, unless you have masses of turbines it would be almost impossible to achieve those goals in the foreseable future for Scotland
humgerguty2 1 month ago
It has been categorically proved for years in the likes of Denmark, Iceland, Norway and Germany that renewable energy works and creates massive a surplus of energy, tell that to the people on the island on Samsø in Denmark, but you have probably never heard of that because you don't know shit about recent advances. . As a Englishman, it baffles why Scots are so self hating about this, Scotland has the privilege to be in a country with the strongest wind potential.
G6Colours 1 month ago
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@G6Colours Your condemning of the intermittence of wind energy has also been disputed. Obsolete designs are being replaced by new and better all the time. It's a known fact that all sources power are intermittent, there is no power plant that is available 100% of the time.. That is why electric grids are built with this in mind. Wind power only has a failure rate of 1 to 2 % and units rarely go down at once.
G6Colours 1 month ago
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G6Colours 1 month ago
@G6Colours Wind is also predictable, reason why a lot of people are investing in Scotland because wind is a constant. It should be a honour to be the leading country in this, Some people are just jelly because Scotland can be a real leader in off shore and on shore wind and prosper very well. The country is already running 20% with high success rate's. People should really stop reading The Sun.
G6Colours 1 month ago
Your condemning of the intermittence of wind energy has also been disputed. Obsolete designs are being replaced by new and better all the time. It's a known fact that all sources power are intermittent, there is no power plant that is available 100% of the time. That is why electric grids are built with this in mind. Wind power only has a failure rate of 1 to 2 % and units rarely go down at once. Wind is also predictable, reason why a lot of people are investing in Scotland.
G6Colours 1 month ago
@G6Colours Yes, the scotchmen can do very good, many villages benefit here in Germany. The nuclear disaster in Fukushima has made people very worried, and we have reaped many benefits. Certain progressive green people are quite envious of very good harvest possible transformation in sscochland :DDD Freedoms!!
Anon5888346 1 month ago
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G6Colours 1 month ago
and Ireland too!
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Of course the Scottish have a right to be independent. I doubt it'll happen but thats my opinion. Someone commented that the English are in an uncomfortable situation because they don't want to admit or be provoked into admitting Scotland do not have a right to independence - did you make that up? Let me remind you parliament is made up of countless Scottish mp's that contribute what happens in England AND Scotland.
mrkjames9 1 month ago
Awww poor scotland wants independence bless ya the rest of unitedkindom would be better of with out anyway there always blaming the english for everythink.
OGZxH4CKZOR1 1 month ago
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TheAtlantissg1 1 month ago
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The oil should be given to the English. But they cant get the resource from English waters. They can not ask for the share from the oils spent over 30 years by the English. However they will get the share of English debt. And England wont even let you vote so there ya go.
nikesback 1 month ago
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nikesback 1 month ago
Of course it will be long winded argument that's one reason why salmond wants the referendum in 2014 to negotiate these issues all of this will surface in time so why don't you wait until it does before you start spouting off about how Scotland is not strong enough to stand on its own two feet. Go join in with the EDL/national front/BNP you will fit in there.
danonutube1 1 month ago
@ToonandBBfan
Also how on earth can you plan to sue us for giving you back. Trident. That is laughable. If anything Scottish companies will profit by charging Westminster for either it's decommissioning or it's relocation. Before you spout such ignorant racism remember that every condescending comment you make or patronising jibe you make only forces scots into wanting independence even more. Until the english can recognise scots as equal then independence remains inevitable.
danonutube1 1 month ago
@danonutube1
Funny that! Scots mouth off about how bad we English are and the second we respond we're being "Anti Scottish". Part of me wants you lot to go independant so I can laugh at you in a few years when you get into trouble, when that happens dont expect anyone in England, Wales or N.Ireland to put any pennies into your sporrons
ToonandBBfan 1 month ago
@ToonandBBfan Some Scots mouth off about the English the same as some English mouth off about the Scots which just proves there are assholes on both sides of the border. Nothing new there.
Part of you wants Scotland to regain it's independence, what does the other part see in hanging onto a union when quite obviously you don't see Scotland as being able to survive on it's own without help from Enland, Wales and Northern Ireland?
TheAtlantissg1 1 month ago
@TheAtlantissg1
Cos it'll be a right fuck on sorting everything out (NHS, Military bases etc, long legal wrangle over North Sea oil)
ToonandBBfan 1 month ago
@ToonandBBfan Of course it will but if you want the Scots out of the union then that will be a small price to pay.
But, it will be sorted. Of that there is no doubt.
Scotland and England will survive together or apart, of that there is no doubt. Our two countries will always be close as there are so many Scots in England and so many English in Scotland. So many mariages between our citizens of our two great countries happily cohabitting.
Independence wont change our relationship.
TheAtlantissg1 1 month ago
@TheAtlantissg1
It will change our relationship!. Alex Salmond would have Scots believe it will be so easy, hence why he wants the voting age dropped to 16 (kids that age are naive and easily swayed)
ToonandBBfan 1 month ago
@ToonandBBfan A lot of people are easily swayed no matter how old they are, as in, "oh I like that so and so, he's a really nice man/woman so i'll vote for him/her, nothing to do with their politics", but if 16 year olds can join the army and are deemed mature enough mentally to legally indulge in sexual relationships both heterosexual and homosexual then why are they then so immature that they cannot vote on the future of their own country?
TheAtlantissg1 1 month ago
@TheAtlantissg1 Are you trying to compare the complexities of politics to that of sexual intercourse?
N330AA 1 month ago
@N330AA Nope, I am saying that legal maturity should be across the board.
How can someone say they are not mature enough to vote yet are mature enough to have sex lifes, go join the army with the possibility of dying for their country.
Are they at 16 mature enough to make these decisions, according to the Government they are so why not let them vote in a refurendum.
TheAtlantissg1 1 month ago
@TheAtlantissg1 My dog can have sex. Does he have the understanding to vote?
What is the legal age for voting in the UK? 18. So we'll stick to that with this one thanks.
I actually think 18 is too low for General Elections. I'd make it 21 myself. There's enough idiots in the electorate already.
N330AA 1 month ago
@ToonandBBfan
That's not just what i think, 90% of ns oil has been deemed to be in Scottish waters by all international treaties/organisations that have looked at the matter. I'm sorry but these guys have much greater authority than your petty Westminster mob who still thinks that Britain rules the world. Of course we will accept our share of debt our budget already has that taken into consideration you fool
danonutube1 1 month ago
@danonutube1
I still dont think you understand what a long winded legal wrangle these oil fields will be - believe you me, Westminister will do everything to trip you up. Scots seem to think independance will be so easy and straight forward but it wont. Then theres the issue of Armed forces Pensions, these men have served Scotland just as much as the rest of the UK
ToonandBBfan 1 month ago
We also know that £50 billion of North Sea oil revenue will flow to London over the coming six years — more than during the previous six, and £10 billion up on the Treasury’s previous forecast. The UK is only being kept afloat at all by Scottish oil. That alone represents over £20,000 for every household in Scotland
haggisman11 1 month ago
What nationality was Tony Blair again mate? *scratches head*
N330AA 1 month ago
@N330AA According to Mr Blair he considers himself English, his words, no one else's.
TheGersroolz 1 month ago
@TheGersroolz Good old Tony, he'll do anything for a vote.
N330AA 1 month ago
@N330AA Mmmmmm indeed, mind you, he certainly sounded like an Englander & for sure, the cunt certainly acted like one!
TheGersroolz 1 month ago
@TheGersroolz But he was Scottish, this is the crucial point.
Scottish independence could have well meant Scotland would have gone to Iraq instead of England.
Not a great independence argument.
N330AA 1 month ago
@N330AA Your just being daft now, he would have never made it & Scotia doesn't invade other nations, that's a Brit thing, that is the key part to remember, the Brit State was put together for empire. Well, the empire, its goosed! So its back to Scotland & England, mind you, you've got Wales too. Ach well, hard luck mate!
TheGersroolz 1 month ago
@TheGersroolz I'm being daft but you don't know the difference between "your" and "you're"?
How can you say it's not a Scottish thing when Blair was Scottish? You going to have to come up with a point a lot more convincing than that.
BTW Scotland had a go at Empires too. The only difference is it was a total failure, and after that failure which bankrupted the country, the Scottish aristocracy went pleading to the English to wipe out their debts if they joined a union.
N330AA 1 month ago
@N330AA Really Your or You're now you ARE being picky. What empire did Scotland have a go at then? A trading post that was in modern day Panama was not an empire. Blair's nationality on his Passport is British not Scottish because a smarty pants such as you will no Scotia in't a nation state & of course neither is Englandshire.
Check the facts England itself was skint prior to the Darien adventure but wanted Scotland on board so ensured it played its part in the scheme's failure.
TheGersroolz 1 month ago
@TheGersroolz So war is not a Scottish thing, it's British, and when a Scottish PM coerces Britain into a war he's no longer Scottish he's British because he has a British passport - like every Scot in the world. Terrific work mate.
Incidently, as of now, the Union staying put is winning the polls, and you're going to have do a lot better than calling Westminster Nazis to change that.
At least you've figured out the difference between you're and your though.
N330AA 1 month ago
@N330AA I'm not a Yank therefore I don't figure things out, I work them out! Now fuck off & teach English to someone who give a toss! Scotia will be out of the London Nazi Nest in the very near future, Nazi polls or otherwise, now enjoy, ya fanny! LOL
TheGersroolz 1 month ago
@TheGersroolz Yeah Nazi! Nazi! Nazi!
At least it's good to know that the ones who do support independence are in general complete morons.
I have faith morons will always be in the minority in Scotland.
N330AA 1 month ago
@N330AA They passed a law banning English investors investing in it & contrary to the Goebbels propaganda emanating out of the London Nazi nest, it was the English who offered the traders there money lost if they joined a union, they wanted it for empire- a fact! The amount lost was not even a third of Scottish GDP.
But look mate, I couldn't give a fuck about the union or the fuckin British State, it is fuckin finished, so do me a favour & go find someone that gives a toss about YOUR views! GTF
TheGersroolz 1 month ago
@N330AA Scotland will not indulge in illegal wars.
TheAtlantissg1 1 month ago
@TheAtlantissg1 Prove it
N330AA 1 month ago
@N330AA Prove it. FFS, It is SNP policy. Scotlands forces would not have partaken in the Gulf war because it was illegal
TheAtlantissg1 1 month ago
@TheAtlantissg1 My apologies, i didn't realise Alex Salmond was going to be King of Scotland for all time.
N330AA 1 month ago
@N330AA Ah, King for all time, taken from the Jeremy paxman School of sarcasm, well done.
TheAtlantissg1 1 month ago
@TheAtlantissg1
Hopefully England won't if we can get rid of all the Scottish out of an English politics
hetrodoxly 1 month ago
@ToonandBBfan the oil IS Scottish it is in OUR waters you fool and we are taking it with us when we get rid of you thieving b*stards down south
danonutube1 1 month ago
@danonutube1
Thats what you think!
Enjoy your share of the national debt you'll be saddled with (anywhere between 100 and 150 Billion depending on hows it calculated). Then we'll sue you for the cost of re-housing the trident base from Faslane.
ToonandBBfan 1 month ago
@ToonandBBfan sue you for the cost of re-housing the trident base from Faslane<< best of luck with that fantasy, Let somone park thrir car in yer garage. have a disagreement, then you have to build them a new garage, now if you want to talk about suing for compenastion lets start with clean up costs at Faslane and every other part of our country you have shat on. Fact is whithout scots subsiidies you cant afford trident or much else for that matter try the 51st state option england USA
haggisman11 1 month ago
@danonutube1"the national debt " our share, not as much as you may think, Bank debt, UK fuck up mean its yours, and have a wee look>>We also know that £50 billion of North Sea oil revenue will flow to London over the coming six years — more than during the previous six, and £10 billion up on the Treasury’s previous forecast. The UK is only being kept afloat at all by Scottish oil. That alone represents over £20,000 for every household in Scotland ..or should i say coming to Edinburgh soon
haggisman11 1 month ago
@danonutube1 leading Professor of Economics, Andrew Hughes Hallett, has sensationally confirmed that Scotland has been subsidising the UK treasury in London for years. Hallett also rubbished claims by Labour politicians that an independent Scotland could not have survived the banking crisis by explaining that much of the liabilities suffered by HBOS and RBS would have fallen on England
haggisman11 1 month ago
@danonutube1 And there are plenty of precedents for that. The Dutch-French banks and the Belgium-French Banks that went bankrupt had to be bailed out jointly by the responsible authorities, and so it would have been shared,, and dont forget yer English banks that that went bust, Fact is Scotlands actual liability if any is very small, UK govtsold off cheap the profitable part of northern rock yet were still left with the cost of original N.R debts so that stays with UK govt
haggisman11 1 month ago
@haggisman11
Believe you me, Scots will get a bill for re-locating Faslane. Good luck with the crumby Euro as your currency
ToonandBBfan 1 month ago
Free Scotland!!!!!!
danonutube1 1 month ago
long live her majesty, long live scotland, long live our united kingdom! alba gu brath!
johnanthonyparsons 1 month ago
life day to day will not change for anyone if scotland (one of the most prosperous regions of the UK) is independent. what will change is out ability to stand tall in the world. i would sooner be part of the united kingdom (with or without the english) than i would within the EU or much worse... alone in the world. union today, union tomorrow. UNION FOREVER!!!!
johnanthonyparsons 1 month ago
The Oil Is NOT Scottish. Its BRITISH. If these SNP jokers think that Westminister will let them walk away with it they are even stupidier than they look!
ToonandBBfan 1 month ago
@ToonandBBfan Come ahead!
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ScottishRepublican 2 months ago
GO kENNY, GO KENNY
cjmastablasta 2 months ago
I support independence, but Kenny MacKaskill is a loopy left-wing moron.
222macgregor 3 months ago
@222macgregor You have no right to talk about Scottish ministers as you aren't even Scottish, you are a Yankee American twat.
Stay out of Scottish affairs yank.
TheFatalInstinct1 2 months ago
@TheFatalInstinct1
I am born and bred Scottish, I moved to the United States six years ago.
I'll have whatever say I want on my country, you fucking arse wipe.
222macgregor 2 months ago
@222macgregor I've seen you claim to be an American on other videos you lying, hi-jacking Yankee Doodle cunt, you are likely a foreigner with no native birthright to anything to do with Scotland.
TheFatalInstinct1 2 months ago
@TheFatalInstinct1
I am now a registered American citizen, my wife and children are American, and I am proud to now be an American. However, I remain fiercely proud of my national country of birth.
222macgregor 2 months ago
@222macgregor If any of that's true, fair enough, but many are sick of people ripping off stuff and hi-jackers, usually Americans who's one grand mother or who ever was Scottish believe that makes them the exact same person on a nationality basis.
TheFatalInstinct1 2 months ago
@TheFatalInstinct1
You should stop acting like a child and begin to appreciate the good that comes from having Scottish culture throughout the world. There is an estimated 25 million Scottish-Americans, 5 million Scottish-Canadians and millions between Australia and New Zealand.
Scots-Canadians and Scots-Americans pump millions into the Scottish economy every year through tourism and imports on such items as Scotch whisky, clothing and food.
222macgregor 2 months ago
@222macgregor Scottish culture only exists in Scotland, the clue is in the name, what you describe as 'Scottish culture' is in actual fact inaccurate and badly outdated stereotypes that are full of rubbish. Scotland is not in America and America is not in Scotland, Ireland is not Scottish and Scotland is not Irish either, completely different nations in their own right with their own national identity.
There is no such thing as a 'Scots-American' or 'Scots-Canadian' -- I had a good laugh there.
TheFatalInstinct1 2 months ago
@222macgregor Yanks and Canucks are no more relevant to the Scottish economy than England and Wales, England are the biggest tourists in Scotland, then Indian, not Yanks.
There are almost 5 and a half million Scots in the world, not 25 million.
Scotland promotes themselves as it's a Scottish job not a Yankee job, what Yankees do is 'pretend' and 'high-jack'.
There is no highland games anywhere else except in Scotland, the highlands are in Scotland, no where else in the world.
TheFatalInstinct1 2 months ago
@222macgregor You should stop being a childish Braveheart fantasist Yankee, and be proud of your own nation, and not steal other peoples nationalities, it just makes you look even more pathetic and inferior to be yourself or a Yank/Canuck in general.
TheFatalInstinct1 2 months ago
@222macgregor Even if you are native to Scotland through birth (which you likely aren't), you no relevance to Scotland as you don't live in Scotland or contribute anything tax wise.
Stop hi-jacking other nations Yankee bastard foreigner.
TheFatalInstinct1 2 months ago
@TheFatalInstinct1
There is a Scottish Highland Games and Festival which takes place in every US State and attracts average crowds of around 10,000+. For example, my local games attracts an audience of 22,000 every year.
We promote Scotland more than the native Scots do.
222macgregor 2 months ago
the strongest case for independence is the fact the whole country from head to toe pretty much voted snp or labour yet we are governed by a tory government in the south - how can we fight for democracy overseas when this massive problem is on our own soil
dan11009 4 months ago
The oil is not Scottish. Belongs to exploration companies who sell it on. The licences issued are under national control, even they're a one off payment. Technically it belongs to the Crown and revenues go to the treasury. If Scotland wants independence, they can't have the oil unless it comes from the land not sea. If Scotland went with independence and claimed oil that's not theirs as their own, they could repay the billions of UK taxpayer money that saved banks that DO belong to them
happyuk06 4 months ago
@happyuk06 So what you are saying is that when Scotland becomes independent, the Rump UK will continue to take the oil, even though it will be 90% within Scottish Terrirorial and EEZ waters as specified by the UN? What have you been smoking?
dauntless111 4 months ago
@dauntless111
Be careful what you wish for. North Sea oil is a UK asset, that is becoming increasingly more expensive to extract as time goes on. No such thing as "Scottish" waters either. It is the scots inherent clannishness that holds them back.. Perhaps also their long history of poor diet, obesity, sectarian bigotry, heroin addiction, tight-fistedness and gloominess. All politicians are suspect, SNP no exception.
happyuk06 4 months ago
@happyuk06 Ok, this is going to bake your noodle. The UK stands for 'United Kingdom'. Once Scotland leaves the 'United' Kingdom, then there will no longer be a 'United Kingdom' only the Kindom of England / Walesand NI. Therefore the Oil will not be a UK asset. Hey Presto! See what I did there? it's fun to learn things eh? Your Anti-Scottish rant bit is a little lame. I think you are just projecting your emotional need to riot.
dauntless111 4 months ago
@happyuk06 by the way, can you please arrange a refund of all RBS taxes dating back to the year 1727? it should be several hundred billion pounds. Scotland would appreciate that. Then we can pay you for the bailout, buy bank the bank and keep the rest, deal? after all, it was never a UK bank was it?
dauntless111 4 months ago
Exactly ! Oil and Gas and there tellinng you your broke ? Thats the Bankers telling you that, like they tell us here , we owe trillions when noo one around ever even seen the money . wait maybe oone of those Iluminate Bankers in there 100 million dollar cruiser .
GalaticSpaceHero 4 months ago
What the Scots don't want to realise, is that most of the English want Scotland to be independent as well. More so do the Shetland's who don't want Scotland to have their oil.
Somehow though I cant see pro EU Alex Salmond agreeing to the Shetland Islands getting what they want. The irony is, that if Scotland is independent under the rule of the SNP they will end up with less autonomy than they have now & will be sucked into the United States of Europe & subject to their increasing domination.
ALBIONTYKE 4 months ago
@ALBIONTYKE I think the Scots tbh really don't care what most English people think on something that has nothing at all to do with them. And this thing about Shetland wanting their oil is complete bullshit.
I take a keen interest in Scottish politics and read the news on a daily basis from all media resources and i have yet to hear anything about the Shetland Islanders wanting to leave Scotland and keep their oil. I have no idea where you got that from. *CONTINUED*
glasgow1234 4 months ago 2
@glasgow1234 Firstly I am not southern English & got my info about the Shetlands from numerous sites made by Shetlanders themselves, just Google it. Also the Shetlanders did vote against the Common Market FACT, look it up yourself! As for the EU, phew have you been taken in by the corrupt corporatists or what? The EU is for ambitious politicians who put their own country second, ask the Irish, having lived 3 years in Waterford until recently I can tell you they detest Brussels with venom .cont
ALBIONTYKE 4 months ago
@ALBIONTYKE I've did your google search and found nothing except some rich loony who declared a small island in the shetlands as independent. Why don't you message me with all these numerous sites made by Shetlanders themselves? It's also a fact that the good people of the Shetlands have voted Liberal Democrat for 50 years !!! and phew have you been taken in by the UKIP, and other far right southern toffs who don't want to share power with anybody.
glasgow1234 4 months ago
@glasgow1234 No you cant have there are so many. Google exactly this "INDEPENDANCE FOR THE SHETLANDS" Also you dont get any toffs in Yorkshire lad, I am pretty well travelled & the worst toffs I have ever come across are in your capital. Lol- How have the Shetlanders voted Liberal Democrat over the last 50 years, they have only been in existence for less than half that period. You need to do some research son. As for independence, your own city is spilt in loyalty what chance has Scotland got?
ALBIONTYKE 4 months ago
@ALBIONTYKE The Shetlands have voted Liberal Democrat and their predecessors the Liberal Party since 1950, longer than any other they represent in the UK. Hardly a party they would vote for if they wanted independence! I am also pretty well travelled and the worst toffs i have ever come across are in the very south east of your country. I don't write anything at all without researching. My own city is split in loyalty? Whats that meant to mean?
glasgow1234 4 months ago
@glasgow1234 300K people who wave the Union flag, 200K who wave the Tricolour & 300K who wave the St Andrews flag is hardly a united ethos. As for you support of the Queen, man the monarchy are the underlying problem of all the crap we are in. They are in bed with the Rothschild's & have been since the Battle of Waterloo. The British Establishment are per head more prevalent in Scotland than England look at Freemasonary for example. Who are the executors of the Bank of England Nominees Ltd?
ALBIONTYKE 4 months ago
@ALBIONTYKE oh god! Now this conversation seriously has to end now ! Have a good life and all ;)
glasgow1234 4 months ago
@glasgow1234 toodle pip old bean
ALBIONTYKE 4 months ago
@ALBIONTYKE Typical southern English attitude about the EU. The EU would completely transform Scotland. We would be an independent sovereign state making our own decisions and playing our part in the European family of nations, instead of being a region of the UK with our half way government but still not able to govern our own finances. The majority of Scots are PRO European. We don't want to exclude and isolate ourselves like the majority of people in England do.
glasgow1234 4 months ago
@glasgow1234 cont2/ Your unelected leader Herman van Rumpoy is heading a quasi Marxist superstate, that has no regard for individual culture or prosperity. Do you think he gives a shit about Scotland? The international banksters run the EU through orchestrated debt & fear. Their goal is a United States of Europe & to hell with your identity, so the banks can have total control over all of us. Salmond is just another bribed puppet playing into the Zionist ( not Jewish) hands & the fucking Queen
ALBIONTYKE 4 months ago
@glasgow1234 Just Google "Shetland Independence" Obviously you wont read it in the Scottish mainstream media.
ALBIONTYKE 4 months ago
@ALBIONTYKE The Scottish media are not like the BBC and other southern media outlets. If there were huge support for Shetland independence then it would be all over the Scottish media. I searched google like you said and found a few newspaper reports from 2008 and a joke forum from 2007. Hardly Shetland islanders screaming for independence is it? If a majority of the islanders want independence then they would get our support, but at the minute there is no huge independence movement in Shetland.
glasgow1234 4 months ago
UK Produces half the oil Norway does.. really think this is going to change a nation of drunken smackheads into Norway??
i think the bitter, xenophobic, sectarian element of Scotland will remain post-independence as well ;D
slothgoonies 4 months ago
Id like to see it happen, however i doubt it will, the status quo is just too safe and comfy for the average person in any nation thats doing ok.
If it aint broke dont fix it may be wrong but people are naturally scared of change.
And theyll vote that way even if at heart they want something else.
HLecterPHD 5 months ago
It would be good for England if Scotland goes independent. They will be richer and more powerful, wont have any Scottish people voting for things in England, they could finally leave the EU etc...
Both countries will still work together, its not like independence means we will not be freinds :)
Doominator99 6 months ago in playlist Scottish Independence 4
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Former US Senate candidate B.W. Miller says, "Our goal is to control all of Europe. We have troops in most European countries and the ironic thing is these Europeans think we are there to help protect them. The Devil's best trick was convincing the world he didn't exist. We are sociopaths, not capitalists. We either control the world or we will destroy it."
BobbyWarrenMiller 7 months ago
Ditch the evil empire, the City and those gangsters, the Windsors. Scotland will thrive as a nation-state, provided the banks are properly regulated.
manuellopez1956 7 months ago
Thumbs up if you are going to vote YES for Scottish Independence !
glasgow1234 7 months ago 23
@glasgow1234
Thumbs up. Byt olease do not have that Queen be your head of State. She is nasty. She is head of State of over 24 nations, and its time for her to go.
Elect a Scottish President.
pluto4847 7 months ago
@pluto4847 I would rather have a seperate Scottish Monarch but that is almost impossible. The British Monarchy is also the Scottish Monarchy as England and Scotland's monarchies were united before the government were. So i want to see an end to the political union but not an end to the Royal union as Queen Elizabeth II is our Queen. She would have the new title of Queen of Scots in an independent Scotland. A Scottish republic is not very popular in Scotland.
glasgow1234 7 months ago
@glasgow1234 There are more English who want Scotland to be independent than there are Scots.
ALBIONTYKE 4 months ago
@ALBIONTYKE Nobody in Scotland really took notice of that poll that asked English people about Scottish independence. Nobody really cares whether there are more English who want us to be independent than Scots..... Perhaps, instead of taking an interest in Scotland's current affairs, the people of England should really be concentrating on their own country and getting it back into order.
glasgow1234 4 months ago
what the SNP fail to point out is that Scotland has profited on British taxpayers aswell, Scottish NHS, Scottish public schools, Scottish public services have come from UK taxes, Scotland has profited from the UK just as much as UK has profited from Scotland.
98raza20 7 months ago
@98raza20 Furthermore, this union was created by Scotland. Whether talking about the 17th century when the king of Scotland united the crowns, or at the biginning of the 18th century when Scotland needed England's empirial trading routes throught the world as well as the financial and economic backing of England after Scotland came close 2 bankruptcy after unfortunately failing to create an empire of its own. After the act of union 1707, Scotland's fortunes soared due to uniting with England
ScotsGuardsBritannia 7 months ago
@98raza20 In Glasgow Council Tax is £95 a month, so No.
truefalse 6 months ago
Scotland and England are simply two different countries living under a treaty that has passed it's sell by date and resulted into it's present state of rancidness.
Scotland has Vast extended Oil feilds all over all sides of it's coasts. And filled with resources and the best renewable energy possibilities in the world.
SNP are currently aiming to re-industrialise Scotland again.
This could potentially re-verse most of, and in time, all of the damage that the English Tories caused in Scotland.
segano1 7 months ago
That's 100% true, "Britain is an artificial state, not Scotland or England", the London elite will try to propagate that this is not the case though, but it is, it was stated for all times on the act of Union 1707, and Scottish sovereignty has remained intact in the ratified union through out all this time.
segano1 7 months ago
I don't like that English cows insolent tone that often lurks out of her.
Macaskill dealt with her good enough though.
The people of Scotland, the Scots, are the sovereign of Scotland, as stated in the 1328 Declaration of Arbroath and re-documented in the
1689 Scottish claim of Rights, hence, what the Scots want on their future constitutions is absolute!
segano1 7 months ago
@segano1
But why still have the Queen? Isn't she the cause of all this Scottish vs English tormoil in the first place?
She is not just some women sipping tea and waving.
She has real power.
So as long as Scxotland has the Queen, nothing will change.
Elect a Scottish President. Elect Peter Dow as your sovereign leader. If Peter Dow was in charge of Scotland, my Scottish grudge would cease.
You need real leadership. Elect Peter Dow now.
pluto4847 7 months ago
Russia today really is the biggest load of shit...Too bad nobody seems to realise it's propaganda funded by Putin
spudnick3490 7 months ago
@spudnick3490 ikr
hornet329 7 months ago
@spudnick3490
muahahahaha! looks like your education is funded by murdoch...
moidc 7 months ago
Don't forget most of that oil belongs to the Shetlands not Scotland. We are illegally occupied & we want freedom from the lot of you!
AaarghOw 8 months ago
north republic and scotts unite! that would be fucking sweet i got a boner just thinking about it lol
ganjaking187 8 months ago
I tried that thing today at the petrol station where you try and stop the pump bang on what you want to pay, but let it go a fraction too late and it stopped on £20.03.
"Bollocks!" I shouted and walked into the shop to pay.
"Unlucky, mate," smiled the attendant, who'd seen what I'd done. "Don't worry about the extra."
"Cheers, mate," I said as I handed him my tenner and fucked off.
Talentz92 8 months ago
illegal war !! alahu akbar !!!!!!!!!!!
abdulduule 8 months ago
the only war that can be justified in Scotland, is a war of Liberation.
Alba Gu Brath
MrSplashcakes 8 months ago 3
@wtfjaftw Sorry, but that's nonsense. Without the EPA, without the FDA without all these regulatory commissions, how are we going to stand up to the corporate cartels? Just stop buying food and oil, to spite them? You think you as an average citizen would have a chance of competing with Coca Cola?
I'm sure some current corporate lackeys wouldn't like it, but corporations themselves would soon run the place. You don't seem to explain how corporations, given free reign, would suddenly fall?
megamarsvin 9 months ago
@wtfjaftw And when the libertarians take over and give complete control to the corporations you will see, corruption has the same result regardless who is in charge. And trust me there will always be someone in charge, exploiting the poor and helping their corrupt buddies stay in power, as long as there are human beings on this planet. They may be American, European, Chinese, they may be conservatives or liberals or libertarians, but the result will be the same.
megamarsvin 9 months ago
'Scotland has got no oil theres barely any left so its insane to think you could just split off and be better off '
It is not just about the Oil but statement is utter garbage never the less. There is a least the same amount of Oil again that the British have stolen over the last 35+ years.
traquir 9 months ago 4
@wtfjaftw No I didn't say anything like that. In fact I didn't say I "loved" the current government either.
This is why debating anything on Youtube is such a pointless act. People seem to be able to think only in extremes. They assume they know what you're thinking before you've even spoken.
To conservatives, I'm a commie, to liberals I'm a corporate whore, to libertarians I'm a government stooge. That's the result of having moderate ideas.
megamarsvin 9 months ago
@wtfjaftw So what you're saying is because we let our governments get so corrupt that they are no longer an effective control on the private sector, the solution is not to fix the corruption but to remove all controls altogether and pray the corporations will not destroy what's left of our environment and society. Sounds like a solid plan.
You know I hear some people prank call 911 which costs the taxpayer money. Does that mean we should dissolve all emergency services?
megamarsvin 9 months ago
Scotland has got no oil theres barely any left so its insane to think you could just split off and be better off economically the reforms would leave Scotland with no armed forces barely and all them shipbuilding and manufacturers would go bust and we would lose are UN seat you would have less taxes to spend the Economies are so interlinked it would probably cause another recession for us fantastic etc i could be here all day with negatives as there are far less positives for you
JamesCunnyy 9 months ago
And for the rest of you fuckwits who have some fairytale, Hollywood-esque image of Scotland, or the evil oppressive English. Here are some facts:
1. Scotland takes MORE out of the UK economy than it contributes.
2. Scottish MPs can vote on English affairs, but NOT vice versa.
Do me a favour, don't comment on things you know NOTHING about.
BigGee84 9 months ago
@BigGee84 Dude, wot r u on about? Scotland pumps way more into the UK than it takes. Idiot.
dauntless111 9 months ago 5
@dauntless111 Yeah, great 'rebuke'. Next time, try doing a little research before spouting misinformed bullshit.
BigGee84 9 months ago
@BigGee84 OK, how about you looks up the GERS report from Westminster. It proves that Scotland has been running a surplus with all the cash we send to London, meanwhile the UK average is highly in debt. Are you telling me that Scotland, with only 5.2 million people, yet 33% of the GB landmass, 90% of the Oil and Gas + 25% of all Europe renewable energy, is a poor country? give me a break. Take your anti-Scottishness and go hide it along with the McCrone Report. (Google that).
dauntless111 9 months ago 24
@dauntless111 This persecution complex seems to be a common theme among Scottish 'nationalists'. What I find tragic is that those in Scotland who don't want independence daren't speak out lest they be labelled unpatriotic or, dare I say it, pro-English. Such is the current state of affairs in Scotland. The nationalist movement seems to be rooted in Anti-Englishness and bigotry, and you wonder why we don't take you seriously.
BigGee84 9 months ago
@BigGee84 No persecution complex here dude, most Scots have English friends and family so give that one up right now. I have been a UK unionist most of my adult life and I always spoke out, i still have my limbs and teeth intact so.... ??? You bold statements are all false, we will be independent, responsible and autonomous under our same Queen. Queen of Scots. You our English brothers will have your chance too. I suggest you take it. Saor Alba and FREE ENGLAND!
dauntless111 9 months ago
@dauntless111 "I have been a UK unionist most of my adult life and I always spoke out, i still have my limbs and teeth intact so...."
It is obviously taboo in Scotland to be pro-union. Are you suggesting otherwise?
BigGee84 9 months ago
@BigGee84 I am suggesting otherwise. Mate, there are plenty of people in Scotland who are pro-union and pro SNP. There are even a fair number of Tories and Labour supporters, all unionists. Also, we have Union Jacks/Flags, all over the place! Have you ever viited Scotland? sounds like you are spouting stereotypes to me.
dauntless111 9 months ago
@dauntless111
watch?v=vTvJYqeYE7U
You sure?
BigGee84 9 months ago
@BigGee84 Hey man, sorry I did not respond, that video is superb! I bet if I drove a banger into the middle of an English housing estate covered in Scottish flags, it would not be too long before it got trashed also. Bravo, for making my point for me.
dauntless111 9 months ago
@dauntless111 So you're suggesting the anti-Scottish sentiment in a typical English housing estate is on the same level the anti-English sentiment demonstrated by the video? Very, very unlikely.
BigGee84 9 months ago