Diocese of Phoenix Natural Family Planning Promo Video

[1ssny]

Have been using NFP for over 3 years to get pregnant and only got pregnant 2x and lost both. When faced with infertility I need more than NFP and God, I need science and medical assistance. NFP is fine for those that are completely healthy and have no fertility issues, not fine for me. I put my faith in NFP and didn't get the result I had hoped for unfortunately.

[Smithpolly]

You're either going to put your faith in something that a pharmaceutical company says is going to get you the result you want or you're going to practice natural family planning, in that case you're putting your faith in your biology as God designed and intended."

Pharmaceutical companies have a lot of faults but if you ever catch TB, you probably should give them a call rather than waiting for your body to sort things out by itself.

[beckisb]

@Smithpolly

You make the point perfectly, actually. We should be using medicine to fix something that is wrong not use drugs or devices to mutilate something that is working perfectly fine. Nobody's arguing against the use of pharmaceuticals to help you get better if you're sick. Just don't trust them to thwart a perfectly working system so you can avoid pregnancy. Understanding your biological design is more effective and healthier to boot.

[Smithpolly]

@beckisb Not just when we're sick. We also use vaccines to help prevent epidemics of measles or polio that used to cause huge damage. While I can understand the reasons why people don't want to put pharmaceutical drugs in their body, I think the argument that they aren't "God designed" is a silly one. If they only want to live in a world as God designed, clothes, cameras, computers, cars and houses should be just as off-limits to them as contraceptives.

[beckisb]

Also, ask any NFP-only Ob/GYN. There are no health problems or menstrual conditions that can't be addressed with other real medications that don't involve a hormonal contraceptive that not only suppresses ovulation and thicken cervical mucus to prevent conception, but also works to thin out endometrium to prevent implantation of a fertilized egg (read here new human life). The Pill is an abortifacient, which is not known by many women who take it.

[jacrn323]

@beckisb creighton model fertility care system. I am a user, a Practitioner and a believer. Scientific, precise, simple, effective, and morally acceptable. Transformational!

[beckisb]

Actually, there's nothing "silly" about making a universal claim about women's health if it's true. The Pill is a carcinogenic -- that is a scientifically proven fact. It's also not a "medication" as you put it. Medicine is designed to fix something that is wrong. You take an antibiotic when you have an infection, not when you're perfectly healthy. Reproductive systems that are working properly don't need "medication," but the Pill is intended to stop it from functioning properly.

[GreenManorite]

It is really silly to make universal claims about "women's health" and a whole class of drugs. Some women use "the pill" to control pain in a way which is not contraceptive. Some women react poorly to "the pill". As with all medication, there are a variety of side effects. The Church's teaching is against the use of artificial contraception. If you are abstaining and taking "the pill" you are not in violation of the Church's teaching as I understand it.

[sofiarune]

I will immediately call you out on the first 17 seconds of this video. Contraceptives can and do improve women's health.  I myself was prescribed birth control in order to control the horrible menstrual cramping that I had every month. The cramps that would cause me to be bed ridden. Oh, and your next point is ridiculous. You cite no sources and you've essentially made the correlation/causation fallacy. Good work. I can't even finish this video it's so stupid.

[BhappyBnanach]

@sofiarune ok i was givven shots to stop my horrible cramping that would keep in bed for 3 weeks. when i was 12! you obviously dont understand the term HEALTH. this was so bad for my actual Health! i gained so much weight got exremly DEPRESSED the 4th time i was given the shot instead of not having my period for 3 months i bled for 3 months! prob bc my body just finally needd to release it. surpressing symptoms is not improving health! its actually the oppisite. theres always a natural way.

[starsoverthere]

This brought me to tears. It's very beautiful, and I hope that more married couples would come to see this.

[punkpersonified]

NFP forces you to appreciate the complexities of your wife.

It really is training the man how to love a woman.

LOVE!!!!

[nickpas19]

So let me get this straight, the method of not conceiving through TIME as opposed to CHEMISTRY is acceptable?

[TenderTrap86]

@nickpas19 Yes, cause the *intent* behind NFP is that progenation is not likely, but it is *possible*.

The *intent* in using AC is that no life shall come of the sexual union. New life becomes entirely undesirable. Ever wonder why broken homes are so easy to find these days? AC also allows for "sex on demand". There is no restraint. So, it's not really about birth, or control. It's only about selfish sexual gratification.

NFP demands cooperation, communication, discipline and restraint.

[carhoch]

Using/practicing NFP saved my marriage, gave me a clear conscience and the freedom to love God fully. We prayed for discernment when we were fertile: Did God want us to have another baby now? We have 6 beautiful children. Without NFP I would have been an infertility patient. I learned to trust my husband again. I lost trust in him when we contracepted. It was sex on demand before NFP. We teach NFP now and know we are working for pro-life. I sleep with a soft pillow: a clear conscience. Amen

[beckisb]

While I think your intentions are good, it is not helpful to have Catholics dispensing incorrect information about Catholic teaching. In this video, we only used conservative priests and couples - the Phoenix Diocese is run by a very orthodox bishop, who has just implemented the most rigorous marriage prep program in the country, which includes a full course in NFP as part of the process. Nobody suggests that couples should use NFP as some sort of method to prevent pregnancy for immoral reasons

[beckisb]

What's more, in Pope John Paul II's Theology of the Body and Pope Paul VI's Humanae Vitae, this belief is presented as a call to "responsible parenthood." And the church actually teaches that a couple may abstain from sexual intercourse during fertile times for "Serious" reasons, which could easily be financial hardship like loss of job, maternal sickness, even illness of another child. Please read up on the church's actual teaching regarding this method and sexuality.

[beckisb]

Glad to see some comments on this video. I should point out that mom2threebabes is unfortunately misguided in her understanding on church teaching. While you are correct that some people may be tempted to misuse NFP to avoid pregnancy for unjust reasons, the church's teaching is that the sexual embrace is for 2 purposes: unity and procreation. You can't be contraceptive when you are open to the possibility of children, which his what NFP asks and the church asks of married couples.

[sweeneyplay]

Furthermore, NFP does not frustrate the natural, procreative function of sex. This is like saying that one is commiting a sin if they do not deliberatley engage in sexual acts each time a woman is fertile! Denying yourself through mutual consent takes sacrifice which can be offered up to the Lord.

While I do agree NFP can be misused, this is why a couple must be mindful to prayerfully discern God's will.

Plz do not discourage those who want and are trying to do the right thing! God Bless

[sweeneyplay]

mom2threebabies : I certainly respect your opinion, but it is unfair of you to be so condescending to those who choose to use NFP as a means to spacing children . How a couple uses NFP is between them and God only.

[mom2threebabes]

@wintersdemise

Nope. Just a traditional Catholic who doesn't want fellow Catholics to sin in the improper use of NFP.

[mom2threebabes]

NFP used to avoid a child=contraception. Read Pope Pius XI, Casti Connubii.

The primary end of marriage is the procreation and the education of children.

Since, therefore, the conjugal act is destined primarily by nature for the begetting of children, those who in exercising it deliberately frustrate its natural powers and purpose sin against nature and commit a deed which is shameful and intrinsically vicious.

[deoomnisgloria]

mom2threebabes, Pope Piux XI is not the sole authority (still an authority) on this matter, and the overwhelming teaching of the Church doesn't exclude NFP for postponing pregnancy for just/serious/grave reasons. The purpose of sex is two-fold, for both procreation and union. NFP by nature is non-contraceptive and ALWAYS OPEN TO LIFE.

[mom2threebabes]

The problem today though is people DO use NFP for NON-GRAVE reasons. Wanting to wait for more money, better house, not ready yet, etc. are not grave reasons. Grave reasons are Debt to the point of not being able to feed children, war, famine, illness that would threaten the life of a spouse, etc. These teachings are almost never touched on in pre-cana classes. The words of Pius XI are twisted in later teachings to support the use of NFP in a contraceptive manner.

[EngagedMarriage]

I really enjoyed this video about Natural Family Planning and its benefits. In fact, I have added it as a favorite on my YouTube channel, and I will add a blog post about it on my marriage site.