Electric Multiple Unit Class 302

[slimyhat1]

pretty cool vid :)

[Hanglands]

Some nice old footage. Dont know if you narrated and put this together yourself or not, but if you did - well done and many thanks for upload.

[steveallen808909]

i didnt know about these units thanks for posting shame none were preserved

[EMMAWONDERLAND1]

Unsafe auto lock the slam doors trains. Is most dangerously not disposed to open the doors! The trains guards responsible to auto open the doors until stop train at the station. What could breaking door open that will cause to loose auto-locks!!! We'll be replace made new electrical railway by slide doors better than old trains like the end of second world war part of the years anyway.

[paulowenrussell]

Hi, also long gone are the small single compartments. Do you put your recordings on dvd and sell them on Ebay?

[sinkplunger]

@paulowenrussell I dont at the moment sell the videos. Thanks

[AG3304]

Pity none of the MK1 or MK2 AC units were saved complete,reliable old things they were.Much nicer than the plastic junk they build now!

[sinkplunger]

@AG3304 Very sad and short sighted that one wasnt kept.

[AG3304]

@sinkplunger Quite right.They even painted one green in the 80s,l think it was.

[cvrmaniac]

Just to let everone know there are two 302 driving trailers at the mangapps railway museum which is situated in Burnham-on-crouch.

[cvrmaniac]

also as well i think the other two sets of mark one coaches (pantograph) are also at the railway but i'm not sure...

[sinkplunger]

@cvrmaniac Last time I visited Mangapps which was last year, the only 302 bits are the two driving cabs. I wish you are correct.

[cvrmaniac]

@sinkplunger no i'm not sure either as it was 6 years ago when i went but i have the photo somehwhere when i find it i shall e-mail you so you will know if i am correct but i'm probably not.

[Defn28]

Didn't realise they had pantographs. Thought they were third rail... hmm, you leearn something new every day

[AG3304]

@Defn28 BR built various different EMUs to the MK1 design,some were indeed 3rd rail,some overhead AC,and the old 307s started as overhead DC at 1500V.

[sxsb1ace]

Ahh a complete one of then. Was hopeing this was from a video that i havnt seen :)

[sxsb1ace]

Were did this video come from.

[sinkplunger]

I made it, so it came from me. Thanks

[sxsb1ace]

hey dont forget the class 308 :)

[oggy1953]

Never took any notice of these until it was too late, miss them now, typical

[sinkplunger]

Thats the way, never missed until they are gone.

[mcmajor09]

what year did was that

[sinkplunger]

July 1998

[mcmajor09]

i would be 3 years old

[mcmajor09]

was there an c2c train the next day

[sinkplunger]

I don't understand what you have said. At the time of the last 302 the company was call LTS Rail, which some years later became c2c. Hope that helps

[mcmajor09]

i ment to say what trains replaced the 302 before the c2c

[sinkplunger]

Ok I understand. Classes 310, 312 and 317 carried out the duties of the 302. These were brought in from around the regions. Then the 357 was slowly introduced but this took some time due to a lot of teething problems with the new357.

[mcmajor09]

why did they get rid of them

[sinkplunger]

They where replaced by newer units class 357. But one full unit in preservation would have been good

[deathmountaintv]

brings back good times

[sexygirl1678]

there was a carridge outside barking statiion

[GlitchkingSteven]

there's one of these trains at the Shoeburyness MOD site

[sinkplunger]

How do you know? I've always heard that only two driving ends of 302s at Mangapps that are left.

[JoeRoss1993]

I've seen them two 302 driving ends there as well, there now painted in BR blue! I've known to have seen 312 units at the MOD as well.

[soundseeker63]

Is it a complete unit? Would be nice if one was preserved and could run again..I know there is a preserved 306 that occasinally runs on the GEML.

[60103Henry]

Great Video, Does Shoeburyness Station have Ticket Barriers? and were the really no 302s preserved?

[sinkplunger]

Shoebury does have barriers. Two driving ends are the only coaches left at Mangapps to the best of my knowledge.

[60103Henry]

Thanks do you think thay would alough enthusiats onto the platform at Shoebury? and any idea if the 2 driving end could be made operation again?

[sinkplunger]

There are plenty of view points around the station from the car park to a public foot bridge that goes over the tracks. In the past LTS / c2c somewhat hostile to enthusiasts. The driving ends are just used as trailers,see my pics on Flickr.

[60103Henry]

Thanks for that!

[airscrew1]

I thought the 302's looked awful in that NSE livery. I've got some old cine film I took in 1977 at Southend Central when they were in over all blue.

[sinkplunger]

You should definitely post it

[airscrew1]

It's on Super 8 film and there is no sound. I've tried having some of my 16mm film transfered and it never looks professional so I don't bother. If you want to pm me you can borrow the film and get it transferred

[Synthesisboys03]

I was not around to see them but they do look very good

[amsiesmodels]

Brilliant video! I spent most of my commuting life on these, & remember them with & without the compartments. Although it made spotting pretty dull on the LTS (C2C), they are classics imo!

[guillppp]

Hi,

Superb! Were these the trains that you could hear the ticking and tapping of the engine under one of the carriages? Thanks.

[Tepic]

That was the air compressor

[guillppp]

Thanks Tepic, I've always wanted to know what the sound was. Are there any of these trains still around that I could go on? Thank you.

[sinkplunger]

One of the coaches had a loo in a four set. But no interconnection between coaches, so you had to sit in the correct part of the train if you felt the urge.

[JoeRoss1993]

I remebr travelling on these trains when I was young. Always loved the slam sound of the doors.

[oakbystation]

There is at least one driving coach preserved of 302 201 (in this video) at Mangapps Farm Railway

[DANWOODHOUSE]

i have happy memories of the 302s as the first trains i was taken to Southend on

and of course we must not forget the evocative memories of fenchurch street when a 302 or simlar train arrived in the morning peak and the doors flung open well before the train stopped!

but of course they had thier bad points, i once saw a slam door train pass through Becontree station with a door wide open!, so perhaps for saftys sake it is best we have the electrostars

[toppackage]

There is allways 1 prick anywhere you go and Miraoister is it here....

gr8 video opnly been on them a couple of times but they were great by the sea...

[TheLanguageAssistant]

I agree that it is beyond a shame that barely any slam-door vehicles have been taken into preservation. I grew up in the 1990s (but in third rail territory), and remember both former DEMUs and EMUs fondly. The sounds, the noises and the smell (!) all belong to a childhood day out to London, and are very evokative childhood memories.

[thejamlover]

i see in the video these units are open plan ,the trains i was a guard on ,were all split into compartments only with no acess to toilets or the rest of the train

[thejamlover]

i remember when i was a guard at cambridge in 1980s and early 90s we used to get the odd one of these to work up to Cambridge.when they were desperate for a unit one was borrowed from west ham depot to cover usually on the stopping services tottenhale ,cheshunt then all stops to Cambridge.i remember working one about 2/3 times,usaully late in the evening ,horrible for women on their own `cos they were isolated in a compartment.a guards used to pee in the brake as there were no toilets!the smell!

[brucesterman]

That sound, it brings back memories, Mum taking me down the station to watch them when I was only three, and they were painted green then. The endless cab rides as a teenager...I never plucked up enough courage to ask for a go at driving!! The last train at night, home from the girlfriends house, trying to stay awake so I didn't miss my stop! Later as clerk in charge of a station seeing them away. Now watching them on You Tube.........now they've gone.

[sinkplunger]

Yes I had a few cab rides and even once drove after the box at riverside to southend cen. That was back in the sixties.

[mercdriver]

Very infomative, thank you.

[alpha555x]

are these trains really still used at peaktimes?

[sinkplunger]

Not any more and no complete units in preservation either.

[mslrman]

couldn't they have saved one unit, after all they were still pretty soundly built

[cosmicfredvideo]

An absolutely gripping video nicely edited and the commentary was informative. Well done!!!