Turkey's Kurds trying to get their voice heard - 18 July 07

[3choBlast3r]

Biggest bullshit ever .. since Kurds are more than 10% of the population they can get in parliament... the fact is that the majority of Kurds in Turkey does not feel the same way. They can live, work, go to schoo and become everything they want,l where ever they want. We have had Kurdish generals and Presidents.

Thats exactly why the majority of the kurds 90%+ votes for Turkish parties.

[BCTUBEX]

Your dirty thiefs! Stop the turkish terror, give the land back to the kurds.....and go back to mongolia!

[JanissaryMTF]

@BCTUBEX These lands are conquered by turks and we possess it for at least 1000 years.You kurds are illusionary scumbags,dirt of humanity,gypsy fucks who have neither language,nor culture,nor identity,nor history.NOTHING.Kurd is the definition for failure and shame.The ones who should fuck off are gypsy kurds.Go back to India where you came from dirty scumbags.Filthy bastards.We have beaten all enemies including gypsy kurds and owned these lands.No space for motherfucking gypsies.

[Gine012]

@JanissaryMTF I don't know under which rock you are living but the Kurdish culture, langauge, and religion is one of THE oldest in the world. Your stupid ignorence is not going to change the facts. Try closing your eyes even harder maybe one day in your dream it will come true, but in reality the Kurds are much older than the Turds, this including their culture, religion, and identity. Just a reminder, the Kurds have saved your sorry as twice, Saladin, and WWI

[webbizz88]

@Gine012 fantasy pkk fake history is it kurdish language and culture comes from persiens -

and medes are not kurd in the time of medes kurds existict not .

when kurds culture so old say me 1 building in history from kurds , give not nothing - and come not with persian culture and persian kingdoms zoroatizm is persian religion to- you can that in all books read . but you look only pro kurd propagandas frm pkk but is 99% wrong lokk in wikipedia and so

[Nikolay125]

free kurdistan

[TurkeylovesGreece]

Instrumentish

This you call Kurdish? behave yourself....talk is cheap!!

[Instrumentish]

Free Kurdistan! Turkey can suck my Khram!

[Shakira127]

siktir git....

[ballbreaker1900]

the kurds will be the majarity in turkey one day then they will vote an end to turkey!

[karaptur]

Turk people will defend their Country with their Blood !!!

You Kurds Do not Daydream ,ok!

Turk and kurd are Brothers !

[ballbreaker1900]

only in your mind mongal

[TangLung87]

WE'RE NOT BROTHERS.

[wiseas]

rly last time i checked "brothers" dont backstab each other

like when your government killed about 1.5 millions kurds for the past 80 years all beause we wanted equal rights and being able to speak our languages

[tmoda61]

There is absolutely no basis to your allegations of 1.5 million Kurds being killed..who are you copying, the Armenians? I don't hear any of you complaining about what Sadaam Hussein did to the Kurds, when he chemically burned and murdered hundreds of thousands of Iraqi Kurds in the 90's!

[wiseas]

not rly dude there was once a protest going on in Anatolia about giving kurdish pepople their rights bak

unfortunately the turkish government replied byt killing 1.5 million kurds and the rest were deported [why do u think all thos kurds in Sweden come from?]

and yes we hav complained about saddam hussein but he's dead now and rite now we hav a kurdish president

u think i dont give a shit? we never forget those who perished! the diffrence is that its still going on in Turkey

[ugurdayi]

i am Turkish i have no problem with other people why are you hate to me ? if you want to happy to kill me come on, you know it whole world know it Turkish people are good why are you afraid from me? i have many kurdish friends we have no problem,i love them; what is your problem? look our history then you may understand we took half europe with 2000soldier, now we are 100 000 000 people did you understand what i mean??? (majarity is your problem)

[JanissaryMTF]

@ballbreaker1900 the number of kurds in turkey is max. 8 million .Of these eight million 40% are of turkmen origin.Moreover kurds are not a nation.They dont have own original language,neither culture nor anything else.Just as a little example:The so called kurdish language has 8000 words.Which are consisting of 3000 turkish words,2000 arab words,2000 persian words,700 armenian words.The rest 300 words are probably kurdish.This isthe so called kurdish language.Devoid of all reason this isnt lang.

[Gine012]

@JanissaryMTF haha you are one funny guy, I really want to meet your history teacher.... I so want to talk to him and give him a lesson in history. Just a reminder, the EU has warned Turkey to stop falsifying history, once before, it appears the EU has to do this once again. up until the creation of Turkey, their was no Latin written Turkish, where as the Kurdish language has been existing much longer than Arabic which by far beats your sorry as Turd language.

[cigaraattirulen]

IN WW 1 the turks were attacked from europe, armenian side and by the arabs. Did anyone noticed many civilians died! The European countrys made those people attack the ottoman empire. The Turks never fought back organized like them, but as clans. The turkish government can never be responsible of that. so please tell me who is the one doing a genocide. The turks were killed everywhere in that time. but no one is blaiming the european countrys who were involved and the russians.

[wiseas]

wow u r such a liar!

in ww1 ottoman empire saw it as a chance to conquer armenia by extreminating all armenians

incase u sumasses dont know, the ottoman empire wanted to be a very powerful nation and they wanted to gain that power no matter what [even if it meant killing innocent lives]

your governmetn is making up shit cause the fact is more and more people are starting to recognize all the sick shit your governemtn has done!

[DkRamo]

ENGLAND LOVE THE FIGHTING,,,FUCK YOU ENGLIDH PEOPEL NAZI MISSIONER DOG GO HOME AND suck king edward ,,,,,turk are biggest in the world ,,,world fear ottoman before now the hate turks becaouse paraniode

[HASSOOROSPUCOCUGU]

Armenian diaspora came to the US because of war crimes they commited against 2.5 million Muslim Turks in WW1. They created the tall Armenian tale to cover up their failed extermination campain against the Turks.

All Armenian diaspora are decendents of murderers and thieves and must be punished. Turks must organize and identify all Armenian traitors in the US and France and hold them responsible for their ancestor crimes.

[ballbreaker1900]

tell that to the greeks in cypress. go home to mogolia

[tsitrello]

there seems to be a lot of kurds in turkey so why dont the turks and kurds get along so they can prosper? there are many different nationalities here in the US who work together and make a lot of money together. together they will succeed.

[friendtonone]

It's not that simple... the issue is so complex you just can't compare it to the USA. The Turks discriminate against minorities.

[turhan1453]

every bird every plane,every animal every bug that crosses Anatolia knows that this is the land of the Turks!

[MistoKurdo]

Unless you are a Turk or another of our enemies, it is clear to every single human being who really are the terrorists(Turkey) and who are the victims(Kurds), not as the turks try to portray it every day in their government-controlled media.

[varnastan1965]

turkey is 2nd in the world after china regarding political prisoners, whats missing culture & civilization, the reason since their arrival from mongolia invading kurdistan, have nothing but destruction,genocide, killing.till today's date turkey is a terror state

[varnastan1965]

I belong to human race, fight for justice and peace, phylantropist, never had hate in my heart but when I see the turks doing all of these genocides and killing I wounder to which human race the turks belong to, since their existence they had nothing but wars with all it's neighbours Greece, Armenia,Bulgaria, Serbia, Cyprus, and now the killing, genocide,ethnocide and assimilation of the kurds in turkish kurdistan

[varnastan1965]

Human rights are minimum standards of legal, civil and political freedom, the turkish terror state should accept it has a minority issue, enough assimilating the kurds in turkey, enough denial, let the kurds live in dignity, don't even argue that u are brothers, I've watched and witnessed killing, genocide by the terror state of turkey

[varnastan1965]

you nationalist turks are too far from the truth, the kurds in turkish kurdistan don;t have basic human rights, they want to preserve their culture and language, they lived in that land befor the turks invading from mongolia,may be your armey as pretend killed 200 freedom fighters but made another 2 millions new members, with war turkey will not achieve it's objectives, wake up

[bebepix]

"The sympathy is not toward the PKK. The sympathy is to the Kurdish aspirations and to the Kurdish community wherever they are,"

[hawwra]

I dont like violence but have you ever thinked why PPK excist in turkey? They are consequences of turkish armys acting in kurdistan. Oppression, deprivation, poverty and violence creat violence.

[FireOFK]

very well said bro, every turk I ever talked to on the net don't understand that this is not about a party but about a whole Kurdish nation and their very basic rights. if in turkey as soon as you say anything about Kurdish basic rights you will be labeled as a PKK supporter or a bad guy. its all excuse. Kurds can't express themselves in their own language and culture they are banned for the simplest rights that are unheard of anywhere else in the world.

[nazaninmahabad]

Kurds will never forget what turks have been doing to them. They(turks) try to deceive us agin by writing in this way like rdapaul, they have done this befor if you read kurdish history books u kan see that they have decieved us many time my friends. We will make peace to them if they accept kurds autonomi and recognize this at UN and then kan we negotiat to them.

[rdapaul]

how am i decieving anyone. u misunderstood my point probably. i can agree that sadly enough when people create peace agreements in the long run there is a chance for them to be unheeded or u could say broken. Turks have to change i agree in that we need to accept the fact that in every country there will eventually be a mixture of ethnicties who dont belong to our so called race so we have to accept that they also deserve equal treatment and rights.

[xcomtrx]

we have been doing nothing to you!Stupid Near my house a Kurdısh family is living and we are visiting each other!We are going to picnic together!And they are richer than us!What is problem?

[bazyan1]

we are not talkin about ordinary people here,

[kurdistaniatheist]

kurdistaniatheists. com

[rdapaul]

I believe that turks and kurds must make peace with each other not continue hating and fighting with each other. the only way of making peace is giving represention and rights to our fellow kurdish brothers and sisters. but sadly the messege that all kurds dont belong in Turkey and that they should shut up or leave is instilled in our turkish brothers and sisters minds. all as a result of media censorship against kurds.

[krazikurd]

the kurds want peace and freedom but turks will not accept it

[rdapaul]

yup. thats the question we need to answer. hopefully it will be done soon or we will never rest in peace.

[nazaninmahabad]

Recently i have seen a part av turks trying to write in this way i mean peacefully. But if you read history u kan see that they have done this before when kurds were strong and then they failed, so honey dont thrust them.

[nazaninmahabad]

So turks wana recognize a kurdish country in a part of turkey. Thank u! We are waiting!

Have u realeased any kurdish prisoner?

U wrote this message one month ago!

[rdapaul]

hey im just for peace and equal rights for Kurds. whats wrong with that. but yeah i know that Turkiye wont agree to this anytime soon. but on the otherhand im in opposition of them having the right to create their own country out of ours. we have controlled Turkiye for centuries so saying that another people have a right to use it for their creation of their country is wrong in my eyes.

[rdapaul]

i mean you folks out their with no Turkish pride in you would of course believe that the Kurds have a right to use our land for a creation of their own country. but im not those turks who oppose peace and equal rights for Kurds as u see. but i can agree that sadly enough if we sign a peace agreement and give equal rights to Kurds the promises might be broken. i wish we never had to have regrets like these.

[Gine012]

lets make this sure....South turkey is originally Kurdistan...how?

read the sevre treaty that your so called AtatTurk (Atagay) did....he agreed, if the Kurds help them out and create Turkey he would promise and recognize the Kurdish independence...

well you know the rest...Ataturk betrayed the Kurds and said that the Kurds betrayed him...

How great is that, to have a great GAY leader who was lying all his life.

[rdapaul]

u know im not a fan of the turkish goverment anyhow and i def know that Ataturk wasnt anything great except that he created the Turkish republic and the turkish language so without him Turkey probably wouldnt of existed but yeah as u said his foreign policy wasnt that great.

[FireOFK]

first of all no promise ever have been made by turkish state. and if there is any certainly is always broken by the turkish government. you have to understand for KURDS asking their very basic legitimate rights in their own land is not a crime many turks don't understand that as they are brainwashed by the controlled military government. believe me if everyone was treat equally no one would have any problem but sadly its not that way we all know it. We as Kurds hope for peace if its possible

[FireOFK]

don't use "our LAND" if its the matter of belonging the land you live in in turkey DOES belong to KURDS more than any turk. because the KURDS are the Native people. but this is not the argument. if every person was equally treated exactly the same regardless of their Ethnicity and culture KURDS or TURKS in the government and media there will never be or would have been any problem but as you know this is not the case so either Turksih state have to wake up or it will be too late. hope for peace

[holoti18]

kurdistan is not a part of turkey,

[Besiktashaydi]

and thats the only soluttion for peace and the ending for the bloodshed

[Besiktashaydi]

But I am not against an independent kurdish state that could be even better for every individual

[temochen]

Who are kurds > they are %75 terrorists (PKK)

they have never established any country in history

now they are trying to establish kurdistan

USA and EUROPE supports kurds cuz they don't want a strong country in here...,,

[BJKpiskopati]

can you see any different on a kurd of turkey or a turk? no you dont because we all are mixed with eachother. time to realize that were brothers. by the way we didnt do anything to you like saddam and khomeini did right? we live side by side in peace..

[Gine012]

hmmm I wonder where you get your informations.... about leaving side by side in peace....where do you live?? on Mars????

[Besiktashaydi]

In Turkey and you? I agree there are problems but just with the military and the PKK. But the civilians live in peace side by side.

[Gine012]

sure the civilians live in peace because most of the Turks don't know they are living with Kurds...most of the Kurds say they are Turks because of the political pressure on them....

if there would be peace in Turkey why was the Kurdish solution never result??? and never up until now even recognized...????

[Besiktashaydi]

Brother I dont know if youre a kurd from Iran or Iraq but the turkish republic have never conmitted genocides like Khomeini and Saddam did.

[Gine012]

never committed genocide....????

there is the Armenian Genocide 1.5 million....

Kurdish Genocide 300.000...and the number is still going up.....

Turkey had many Genocides committed...but even today they are hiding it like mouse

[gurelscarfaceturkish]

that wasnt genocide that was war and we only deported them to another land becuase they were wit the russians against us...and u kurds act like we turks whip u guys with a stick down the streets look i myself think kurdish should be taught in turkish schools and kur should have their own TV showsfor more than a hour and Etc.but i cant change that and kurds are free to go to other countries if they dont like Turkey

[Gine012]

so you are telling me that 1.5 million Armenian civilian who were murdered, was because of the war??? This still does not give the Turks the right to kill civilians...Kurdish land is Kurdistan. They will not leave their country just because some bunch of idiots think they can destroy the Kurdish identity.

Another thing is, that most countries in the world have recognized the Genocide, and you guys are still denying it, this is sad.

[HASSOOROSPUCOCUGU]

Gine012

Child of a whore, how de fuck can you deny something that never happened? There is only one Genocide, the Turkish Genocide commited by the Armenian Dasnaktusin or what ever shit their name is. Armenian Animal General Patermejan and 200.000 Armenian troops at the head of the rus army killed murdered millions of TR women and children.

[Gine012]

firstly for people like you who can't get the slightest clue and can't talk in a civilized way,is hard to listen to other peoples opinion without swearing and threatening them

Have you read the history books?

other then the one in Turkey

more then half of the world agrees that the armenian genocide had occurred

But you guys have to deny it,and even say it was other way around

don't be childish.Stay up for what you have done,only then will you get the respect you want

PS: stop swearing at people

[gurelscarfaceturkish]

oh look its a fucking kurd again nice going...no wonderu guys are treated like shit in every country u live in th good turk offers peace and u blow it...like shit...u guys cry over turkey but u guys steal land from the kirkuks u animals...

[Gine012]

Turks offer peace???

I don't recall any where at anytime the Turks have declared peace with the Kurds...

The Kurds have tried to solve this issue through peaceful means but you F*** retard TURDS can't even hear the word peace. Its like the WORD GENOCIDE for you.

Ah yeah why are you using YOUTUBE???

Isn't it banned in Turkey anyway???

Hahaha f*** retards, even block a website.

sad

[gurelscarfaceturkish]

i meant that turk that commented of course the politics are messed up.YES even the shitty kurdish politics over in Iraq who care nothing more than power money and land...but then aain what do u animals know you just want to take away "land" if u want land ur not getting one in Turkey just face it

[Gine012]

your comment tells me that the only animal here is you yourself

you don't even know your own history and how Turkey was created and yet you say its your land

Kurds have been there long before the Turds came from Mongolia

Your GayAtaturk went down on his knees and cried for help against the allies during WWI

He asked KUrds for help, in return he would give us our land back which is half of Turkey

Your lying Atagay is dead and burns in hell

I don't believe people who lie and kill will go to heaven

[gurelscarfaceturkish]

ok i dont get it...why would he ask for help to get land from the kurds when its going to be Kurds land anyways??

[turhan1453]

peace is the only thing that we can pray and work 4. Turk is a kurd n a kurd is a Turk! Buddy we lived together 4thousands of years, n will be for ever. We r both muslims n will live together all the time.Stop brainwashing urself about kurdistian, that country is Turkiye, everyone that lives there is equal citizens

[two6c4you]

Kurd is Kurd n turk is turk... stop saying we the same. i dnt hate Turks but just how u dont like to be called Kurd same for us u KebabBoi. is youtube realy banned in Turkey??

[Naraku111]

turks offers peace?

whens the last time turkey nagotiated with PKK? thats the only way you get peace

your a pure moron

go learn real polotics and not learn from youtube comments

[cigaraattirulen]

When is the last time a country nagotiated with terrorists. In Turkey you've got many ethnic groups. So i am asking you are the Kurds the only one who feel discriminated or are some terrorist Kurds making money and gathering power like they had in the AGA periods. This is a war of power not one of etnic groups. This is a world people make things up so you will fight one day to with a shitty reason you dont even understand !

[dogukanozy]

u sayin in your profile: "Turks die for flag and land without hesitation death on battle field is the greates honour that a men can reach in Turkic lands."

is this a honor just for turks? is this a terror or shame or whatever when another nation say it themself? u r so funny.. =)

[dogukanozy]

1)KarpuzcuAmca=Watermelon-Uncl­e in turkish =). u sayin that indians in britain, blacks in america is da same with Kurds in turkey and north kurdistan?? idiot, learn the difference, who are immigrants and who are the owner of their homeland. Kurds are not fighting to take lands who is not belong to them, Kurds just fighting for their liberation of language, culture and 5000years homeland, turkey is the occupier of north kurdistan! when was these lands belong to you??? u got that??

[dmokri]

In Turkey they have been kiling not only Kurds but all other christians for centuries banned people to stay christian by marrying them adn forcing them to become muslim. My canadian friends there they have been told if they do not loose their own faith, they will not see their kids!!!

[KarpuzcuAmca]

what kind of lie is this. you are just another fanatic christian boy who try to spread hatred. we have got christian schools, churches, ethnics. we respect every religion. u are just another mad canadian who is doin anti-turkish propanagha ..

[gurelscarfaceturkish]

i know what a dumbass

[dmokri]

There is always a gorup of people in any country around the world but England will nt go and kill the Irish or Canada killing Quebecois, the same is true for kurds in Turkey.You can nto always kill those innocent people only because they have different idea!!?

[dmokri]

I am very glade that this guy won the election. It is time that Turkey looks inside its own problems/minorities instead of looking some where else/to the westerners all the time!Turkey is a muslim country no matter how much they try to immitate the western culture!

[KarpuzcuAmca]

we dont try to immitae western culture. We love our culture, we adapt western consittution , gpverning and economical systems.

Turkish culture cannot ba changed, my moneky friend.

[Alex77UK]

Long live TURKIYE ne mutlu TUrkum Diyene!

[figter77]

Europe is disturbed from our national unity.We are all aware of their dirty aims,make sure.Not all the kurds are being used by imperialist countries. You can't divide us.

[figter77]

My ancestors have come from caucasia. But I am proud of calling myself a Türk. Why? because my mothers' grandfather have died in gallipoli. Noone is forcing me to call myself as a Türk.THAT IS NATIONAL UNITY WHICH SOME CAN NOT EVER IMAGINE.

[AntiTirk]

long live kurdistan. we will get our land

[jklasdfjdfksl]

either way, the situation in Iraq created by the US is resulting in escalating hatred and calls for violence, which pushes the situation from settlement and disunites the region; leaving it open for US(including Israeli)/European imperailism to slip in the back door.

[jklasdfjdfksl]

Duran is correct. whether the US is encouraging the PKK attacks through direct aid, or are just watching it happen, this escalation serves neither the interests of Kurds or Turks. it allows the Kurds to be branded as "terrorists", while age-old European fear and ignorance is shown again through the delusion of Turkish barbarity; as if the Europeans(including the US) and Christianity have never been responsible for massacres and great wars.

[blunt1984]

The Kurds need a country to call their own. Only in Iraq do they have anything close to that(Kurdistan). Turkey, Iran, and Syria need to follow suit or the violence and problems will never end.

[Alex77UK]

you wrong mate, violance will end so in a pretty bloody way. Have you heard of 'Halepce' do google it and see what Turks can do in worst scene scenario.

[blunt1984]

I know it will, but the Kurdish guerilla attacks against countries such as Turkey and Iran, won't end until the Kurds get their own region. After the Kurds got that due to a no-fly zone imposed on northern Iraq after the first gulf war; and they no longer attack the Iraqi government. Trust me, I've learned of the Turkish massacre of the Armenians, so i know what they can do.

[bgturk]

You may also do well to learn that the no-fly zone on Northern Iraq was enforced from Turkey and that Turkey accepted hundreds of thousands of Kurdish refugees during the excesses of Saddam during the Iran-Iraq war. A country by the name of Kurdistan has never existed and it never will.

[blunt1984]

I do know that Turkey accepted thousands of refugees and has done many good things for the Kurds. My point is the separatists will not stop their campaign of violence until they get a separate state. Given the way things are unraveling in Iraq, the Kurdistan region of that country will become an independent state anyway.

[KarpuzcuAmca]

does england make indian second language? pakis language offical? turkey has got 1 language, Turkish.

Kurdish education is available but language wont be offical of course :=) Why dont u give natives a state of usa? would u ? or black people? No? So StFu. without knowing anything, dont act the peacekeepin guy.

[blunt1984]

Turkey doesn't have an obligation to give them anything. My point is that the separatists will continue their fight indefinately until they have a separate state just like the resistance in Chechnya, the Basque Country, Tamil region of Sri Lanka, etc.

[KarpuzcuAmca]

nope they will stop.. u know we are preparing for a north iraq war. our aim is to go 15 km further so there will be no mountains for PKK to find a spot to get in. that will be a perfect solution.

[KarpuzcuAmca]

kurds have a country called kurdistan in iraq.. they wanna have land from turkey. 3. world war has to happen and world map has to change in order to pkk has a land from Turkey :=)

[gurelscarfaceturkish]

thats what i think!!

[KarpuzcuAmca]

u have learnt turkish maassacre of armenians? from 1 sided books of armenian authors? then engligght us with your knowledge pls? what do u know? Turks allowed 31 different ethnicity to live in turkey for 500 centuries , why should we kill them? it is amernian propagandha used by Armenia to gain some money from turkey.

[SandyIZhmm]

maybe the Turks should give the Kurds land....

[redwine4545]

Excellent reporting. Much more optimistic news about the Kurds than I'd heard before. Once again, perhaps we're seeing the magic of democracy at work.