@rasengandx There are very few good users of Chlorophyll, and one user of Sand Rush. Chlorophyll users rely on Sun, something that boosts Fire, which is more common than ever with Ferrothorn. One of the best Chlorophyll users is Venusaur, who is bulky or strong but never both, so it is not a threatening Pokemon. Excadrill is walled by quite a lot.
Swift Swim is different. Kingdra, Ludicolo, Gorebyss/Huntail (Shell Break Passers), Omastar and Kabutops are all VERY powerful, bulky & fast in Rain.
@DanteTheDarkAngel666 Sorry, I should have made it clearer, I meant one GOOD user of Sand Rush. There wasn't much room in the comment so I was getting rid of words that might not be needed, but I did make it kinda unclear.
@SteelPokemonFan Well I wouldnt say he's bad. Bring him in when one of ur guys dies with band or scarf and use him as revenge. He gets stab with Retaliate as well which kinda makes him even more worth while.
@DanteTheDarkAngel666 It's a Normal attack though, not only does Steel resist, so Ferrothorn gets a free switch, but Candelure switches in and gets a free revenge. As long as Shadow Tag Candelure exists, Choice Normal/Fighting moves are risky. Outside of DW, it could be a niche, but still, 85/90/90 defenses are not ideal when Fighting types are everywhere now. It also won't be bulky if it's a revenge killer.
@SteelPokemonFan Venusaur,like other Pokes with chloro,can use growth in the sun and become a very threatening mixed sweeper(If you didn't know,in 5th gen if you use Growth under the sun it sharply raises Attack and Special attack,it's like you swords dance and nasty plot in the same turn.)
With a set like Growth/Solarbeam/Earthquake/Sleep Powder,it's a scary poke under the sun.
@XxMforzxX Growth in Sun is good, but the problem is that you have to run a Sun team, which are usually not good. The omnipresence of Tyranitar and DrizzleToed forces Ninetales to switch out a lot, and when your weather starter is SR weak it is a big issue. Tyranitar's Pursuit also ruins it.
If they have these Pokes then you have to use Energy Ball (which would make Solarbeam pointless) to hit them both SE, but with Tyranitar's SpD boost, it won't do enough, and Politoed is very bulky.
e lo sounds a little intimidated, normally he chips in a lot but in this episode, he's a little reserved and i can't help but think the presence of a pokemon mother mary in xerexs scared him a little.
Please try to get Nacho on this series, he is the pokemon jesus christ (kinda looks like jesus)
@zenyricardo It was a combination of that and really wanting to hear what he had to say, I'm sure people would've hated me if I interrupted a lot haha
I really can't stand hacking, I feel it really cheapens the game and Nature and IV Dittos along with EV items and an Everstone to succeed in breeding legit, 2 stat maxed Pokemon. Use the judge in Nimbasa to check IVs and ride the Royal Unova on Sunday (you can change the time continuously) for 7 trainers with level 60+ Pokemon and a Rare Candy helps to level up quickly. Mabye I enjoy the effort, but if you want to do everything legit, that's how. I'll help anyone who wants to try.
great podcast, probably the best so far, im fairly new to the metagame and i came in around the end of gen 4 so i never had to deal with mence chomp etc. but i really wish they never got rid of auto leveling, when i finally decided to start eving and doing things legit gen 5 rolled around and sav became the only way
700 hours on soul silver and about 12 usable guys out of over 70 bred and trained. I feel you want for a return to breeding and pokemon with imperfect IVs Xerxes, that would make Pokémon so much more fun again, but without auto leveling and the amout of time it will take do make a single poke in B/W I just can't handle it. I do not have the time or desire to breed anymore :(( I have incredible respect for you xerxes.
Ugh, I never really liked PMP that much. I don't like how youtube has made the directors there greedy for money and Haydunn himself said in one of his recent videos "check out my videos because it makes me money." As soon as I saw Xerxes leave PMP, I unsubbed to PMP and most of the other pokemon youtubers except Xerxes.
He likes to talk XD But he's pretty knowledgeable, so no harm no foul.
I gotta say that with the whole depriving your own channel thing...the video is going out to the Pokemon community any way you slice it. While your own subscribers aren't watching it, there are people who enjoy Pokemon viewing it; and, if you're a good narrator, subscribers will come either way. I don't know. I don't upload so I'm a bad person to ask, but maybe I'm just not seeing the whole picture being merely a viewer.
@BRADvsBR4D Its not all about the Subscribers though. At least it shouldn't be, and its not for me. To put up a really good fight that fans of your channel whom have been there for 1, 2, or in my case 3-4 years and they DON'T get to see it, that isn't fair to them.
Sure other people do and thats great, but generally you take care of your home first before you reach out to others. This is more of what the three of us were getting at.
@mtgxerxes I suppose that makes sense. Again, I'm not the authority on this at all, but you can understand how it could come off as "selfish". It's refreshing to hear your side of the story after reading up on so many rumors, and you did clear up a good bit about the PokeMoshpit and all. Home is where the heart is and all that. I'm a bit miffed to learn that uploading the same video on two channels isn't allowed under Moshpit's rules. It seems voiding that rule would resolve potential conflict.
Many pokes that were introduced this gen are so overpowered that they make pokes that would've been ou in gen 4 potential uu material in gen 5 (Darmanitan is an example). Do you agree?
@th3Elimin8r Smogon doesn't make stupid bans, the people who make the bans are people who play the game a lot and play it seriously, if they think something is broken and makes the metagame unfair they ban it. I don't know why people think the people on Smogon are just people who are mods there, they get advice from the top players from their simulator, they don't just get together and decide "Yup I hate this let's ban it." "K!"
Not gonna lie, I woke up a little early just to catch Xerxes in the metapodcast. Can't wait for part 2. Great job guys.
To me, Pokesav and Pokegen are kind of like calculators. What bothers me isn't the use of them, but rather when someone doesn't understand how to breed or how to obtain certain movesets on their guys correctly. It would be really nice to see more people at least familiar with breeding mechanics.
Definitely don't mean to imply the community doesn't know how to breed properly (a lot of the players that have been around for a while are masters of it). I just get PMs from kids starting out and it breaks my heart when I explain the mechanics to them or link them to some videos they can use and they say "that's complicated, can someone just sav for me" :(
Tbh Mew should be uber for the same reason Salamence was uber in gen 4, it can run different sets and each one is countered by another type of pokemon.
Q: When most of the more known pokemon youtubers such as Wilechase,E-Lo, Shofu, etc. decide that they are finished with youtube pokemon, Who can you see as a big pokemon youtuber sometime in the future?
I have a question, that once was asked on Duude1991's 15 questions video: Is there any pronounciation to a Pokemon name that you have that you know it's wrong, but you still pronounce it that way anyway?
Played the meta game on day 1 2007, stopped in early 2009. Wow has the game has changed.
TheMrTehawesome 1 day ago
4th gen>5th gen
HeartofTheLion777 4 months ago
get SuperSkarmory on this
iDaveGaming 6 months ago
WDFA FDNX
Lequan35 6 months ago
i miss 4th gen soooo much
curc649 6 months ago
I miss the old days of D/P
CholoBandicoot 8 months ago
Was there any need to hate on Registeel? I use it in OU and it can tank all kinds of stuff, it always gets rocks up and t-waves sweepers like a boss
dotters123 9 months ago
I breed all my Pokes...mostly because I actually find it kinda fun.
Sadslab 10 months ago
I hate this SAV stuff. Such BS. I wish people would go back to playing the game the way it was meant to be played...
mazzaman16 10 months ago
@mazzaman16 not everyone has the time to sav everything. its time conserving
bpookiswatching 3 months ago
Is Pooka the sexyest dude on the planet? ;D
PittyPatPooka 10 months ago
I think Xerxes is a role model to a lot of the youtube battlers today
Spazzman299 10 months ago
does xerxes really need a link in the description? he's the godking for petes sake! lol
LittleCrow18 10 months ago
Pokemoshpit did have the focus of helping the lesser known people. Then WHOOOOPS WHOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRE
sharktamer 10 months ago
Team preview just adds more strategy to the game imo.
skierdude413 10 months ago
How do you get on the Metapodcast?
jpny2008 10 months ago
What would you rather have a magikarp or metapod
TheBobNRob 10 months ago
What do you guys think about Hail teams in 5th gen?
SloMamba 10 months ago
cliff hanger!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! oh wait:(
elwoodxd 10 months ago
question: what is your skype name?
thecheese8886 10 months ago
i don't understand why they ban drizzle and swift swim but don't ban drought and chlorophyll or sandstorm and sand rush to me it seems unfair
rasengandx 10 months ago
@rasengandx Because rain gives two different boosts (50% more to water moves, plus swift swim).
RichyBabess 10 months ago
@rasengandx There are very few good users of Chlorophyll, and one user of Sand Rush. Chlorophyll users rely on Sun, something that boosts Fire, which is more common than ever with Ferrothorn. One of the best Chlorophyll users is Venusaur, who is bulky or strong but never both, so it is not a threatening Pokemon. Excadrill is walled by quite a lot.
Swift Swim is different. Kingdra, Ludicolo, Gorebyss/Huntail (Shell Break Passers), Omastar and Kabutops are all VERY powerful, bulky & fast in Rain.
SteelPokemonFan 10 months ago
@SteelPokemonFan Doesnt that giant furry dog ( I think Stoutland?) get sand rush?
DanteTheDarkAngel666 10 months ago
@DanteTheDarkAngel666 Sorry, I should have made it clearer, I meant one GOOD user of Sand Rush. There wasn't much room in the comment so I was getting rid of words that might not be needed, but I did make it kinda unclear.
SteelPokemonFan 10 months ago
@SteelPokemonFan Well I wouldnt say he's bad. Bring him in when one of ur guys dies with band or scarf and use him as revenge. He gets stab with Retaliate as well which kinda makes him even more worth while.
DanteTheDarkAngel666 10 months ago
@DanteTheDarkAngel666 It's a Normal attack though, not only does Steel resist, so Ferrothorn gets a free switch, but Candelure switches in and gets a free revenge. As long as Shadow Tag Candelure exists, Choice Normal/Fighting moves are risky. Outside of DW, it could be a niche, but still, 85/90/90 defenses are not ideal when Fighting types are everywhere now. It also won't be bulky if it's a revenge killer.
SteelPokemonFan 10 months ago
@SteelPokemonFan Venusaur,like other Pokes with chloro,can use growth in the sun and become a very threatening mixed sweeper(If you didn't know,in 5th gen if you use Growth under the sun it sharply raises Attack and Special attack,it's like you swords dance and nasty plot in the same turn.)
With a set like Growth/Solarbeam/Earthquake/Sleep Powder,it's a scary poke under the sun.
XxMforzxX 10 months ago
@XxMforzxX Growth in Sun is good, but the problem is that you have to run a Sun team, which are usually not good. The omnipresence of Tyranitar and DrizzleToed forces Ninetales to switch out a lot, and when your weather starter is SR weak it is a big issue. Tyranitar's Pursuit also ruins it.
If they have these Pokes then you have to use Energy Ball (which would make Solarbeam pointless) to hit them both SE, but with Tyranitar's SpD boost, it won't do enough, and Politoed is very bulky.
SteelPokemonFan 10 months ago
@SteelPokemonFan good point
rasengandx 10 months ago
how do you guys feel about speed boost blaziken being banned?
rasengandx 10 months ago
Part one? Can't wait. I remember the days of Lati, and mence, post chomp ban. God I was a noob back then
TeamNubagator 10 months ago
oh yeah smogon can go fuck itself for banning blaze blaziken
RattleheadAnthony 10 months ago
yeh the team preview thing is pretty gay
RattleheadAnthony 10 months ago
If chuck norris was a boss in an online battle, what moves would he use, and what pokemon would you use against him?
TheDhOwner 10 months ago
" *Sigh* WHEN DID POKEMON GET SO SERIOUS?! "
XD lol
PleaseStopPWNINGMe 10 months ago
yeah i like to know what pokemon are banned to uber
03flare15star1990 10 months ago
i remember the good old days with: Nacho,Xerxes and Xenon
Jamtastication 10 months ago
i have a question for you: Why do you play Pokemon?
Jamtastication 10 months ago
what was the most disappointing thing that 5th gen brought or took away from the meta game ( you can reverse this question too if you want )
m1212345678 10 months ago
Here's my questions for you guys.
What is your Guys opinion about the banning of Blaziken and do you think it will ever return to OU?
What pkmn type do you think needs to get a beef up (EX.Poison type)?
What PKMN you think Gamefreak needs to make better?
What PKMN you think defines each Generations metagame and the most associated with it?
Gamegenie22 10 months ago
Nacho Next!
GengarRape 10 months ago
e lo sounds a little intimidated, normally he chips in a lot but in this episode, he's a little reserved and i can't help but think the presence of a pokemon mother mary in xerexs scared him a little.
Please try to get Nacho on this series, he is the pokemon jesus christ (kinda looks like jesus)
zenyricardo 10 months ago 52
@zenyricardo It was a combination of that and really wanting to hear what he had to say, I'm sure people would've hated me if I interrupted a lot haha
KwandaoRen66 10 months ago
what do you guys think about ditto with his dream world abbility?
envoyofthekipsate 10 months ago
Where the hell is part 2?
Awesome, by the way.
Alphacme 10 months ago
man, pokesav was a total game changer, imagine the metagame if it was still unsocialably acceptable
Mardizzle922 10 months ago
I really can't stand hacking, I feel it really cheapens the game and Nature and IV Dittos along with EV items and an Everstone to succeed in breeding legit, 2 stat maxed Pokemon. Use the judge in Nimbasa to check IVs and ride the Royal Unova on Sunday (you can change the time continuously) for 7 trainers with level 60+ Pokemon and a Rare Candy helps to level up quickly. Mabye I enjoy the effort, but if you want to do everything legit, that's how. I'll help anyone who wants to try.
Nintendo4EVER65 10 months ago
Breeding ftw just hard to find ev training placed on 5th gen =[
monkmonk666 10 months ago
i sad faced when it ended :( so anticlimactic
zachdennett 10 months ago
@zachdennett Part 2 is out on Wednesday, no worries ;)
KwandaoRen66 10 months ago
@zachdennett That's what she said! ;)
Sorry, I just had to...
Hernandezzy09 10 months ago
great podcast, probably the best so far, im fairly new to the metagame and i came in around the end of gen 4 so i never had to deal with mence chomp etc. but i really wish they never got rid of auto leveling, when i finally decided to start eving and doing things legit gen 5 rolled around and sav became the only way
T0X1CSPIKES 10 months ago
"all right so.. what do you think- no wait." *stops the episode*
WHHYYYYYYYYYYY
ThePsh07 10 months ago
I want to know why the hell they removed auto-leveling
supginos 10 months ago
It took me 20 minutes of this video to realize that METApodcast talks about the metagame, and isn't just the pun XD!
TurboCelfon 10 months ago
700 hours on soul silver and about 12 usable guys out of over 70 bred and trained. I feel you want for a return to breeding and pokemon with imperfect IVs Xerxes, that would make Pokémon so much more fun again, but without auto leveling and the amout of time it will take do make a single poke in B/W I just can't handle it. I do not have the time or desire to breed anymore :(( I have incredible respect for you xerxes.
TheSupernaturalist7 10 months ago
Ugh, I never really liked PMP that much. I don't like how youtube has made the directors there greedy for money and Haydunn himself said in one of his recent videos "check out my videos because it makes me money." As soon as I saw Xerxes leave PMP, I unsubbed to PMP and most of the other pokemon youtubers except Xerxes.
XERXES FTW! :-)
richardoyu 10 months ago
He likes to talk XD But he's pretty knowledgeable, so no harm no foul.
I gotta say that with the whole depriving your own channel thing...the video is going out to the Pokemon community any way you slice it. While your own subscribers aren't watching it, there are people who enjoy Pokemon viewing it; and, if you're a good narrator, subscribers will come either way. I don't know. I don't upload so I'm a bad person to ask, but maybe I'm just not seeing the whole picture being merely a viewer.
BRADvsBR4D 10 months ago
@BRADvsBR4D Its not all about the Subscribers though. At least it shouldn't be, and its not for me. To put up a really good fight that fans of your channel whom have been there for 1, 2, or in my case 3-4 years and they DON'T get to see it, that isn't fair to them.
Sure other people do and thats great, but generally you take care of your home first before you reach out to others. This is more of what the three of us were getting at.
mtgxerxes 10 months ago
@mtgxerxes I suppose that makes sense. Again, I'm not the authority on this at all, but you can understand how it could come off as "selfish". It's refreshing to hear your side of the story after reading up on so many rumors, and you did clear up a good bit about the PokeMoshpit and all. Home is where the heart is and all that. I'm a bit miffed to learn that uploading the same video on two channels isn't allowed under Moshpit's rules. It seems voiding that rule would resolve potential conflict.
BRADvsBR4D 10 months ago
Thanks to eric for giving me a shout out. although, i bet you xerxes was like "what's a black blastoise"
Blakblastoise 10 months ago 14
dugtrio was uu as long a remember
shadowstormground 10 months ago
Why did it stop in the middle? D-:
funguskim 10 months ago
"What do you think... No wait"
LolitaShiba 10 months ago
my Sunday ritual for about two months now:
1.- Get up.
2.- Have breakfast with the family
3.- Split the chores and try to clean the whole house in under an hour.
4.- Look at my spotless room, throw myself at the bed.
5.- Open my laptop, refresh my subscriptions.
6.- Listen to the Metapodcast while turning my DS on.
That's the good life, bro. :3
elesegerardo 10 months ago 53
@elesegerardo :D
Dangerous36M 10 months ago 10
what is meant by metagame?
doodyfyingharty 10 months ago
@doodyfyingharty competitve. basically anything thats not the main game
rockoutloud2112 10 months ago
Many pokes that were introduced this gen are so overpowered that they make pokes that would've been ou in gen 4 potential uu material in gen 5 (Darmanitan is an example). Do you agree?
AmazingEminem 10 months ago
@AmazingEminem Wish we had this question. I'd know exactly where I'd take that one.
mtgxerxes 10 months ago
@mtgxerxes make a video about it cause i want to hear!
rockoutloud2112 10 months ago
they shud put these guys on smogon board to figure out who is banned
they can show us on youtube why a certain guy wud be banned and we can complain directly to them if we feel like it ;)
th3Elimin8r 10 months ago
@th3Elimin8r Smogon doesn't make stupid bans, the people who make the bans are people who play the game a lot and play it seriously, if they think something is broken and makes the metagame unfair they ban it. I don't know why people think the people on Smogon are just people who are mods there, they get advice from the top players from their simulator, they don't just get together and decide "Yup I hate this let's ban it." "K!"
TheGuyWhoIsSitting 10 months ago
when is the next part
DarthChocoboz 10 months ago
Xerxes my idol! :D part 2 ppl ! :P
Shadow371192 10 months ago
This was painful to listen to, no offense to you guys.
Fisdunction 10 months ago
if you could design 1 pokemon move what would it be called and with wath effects
wowgek7 10 months ago
if you were to make a video game, which wifi battlers would you choose to help u make it, and why
maximumjaja 10 months ago
Not gonna lie, I woke up a little early just to catch Xerxes in the metapodcast. Can't wait for part 2. Great job guys.
To me, Pokesav and Pokegen are kind of like calculators. What bothers me isn't the use of them, but rather when someone doesn't understand how to breed or how to obtain certain movesets on their guys correctly. It would be really nice to see more people at least familiar with breeding mechanics.
iamthetie 10 months ago
@iamthetie I don't know many people who aren't familiar with the breeding mechanics. I use sav, and I know the breeding mechanics very well.
TheGuyWhoIsSitting 10 months ago
@TheGuyWhoIsSitting
Definitely don't mean to imply the community doesn't know how to breed properly (a lot of the players that have been around for a while are masters of it). I just get PMs from kids starting out and it breaks my heart when I explain the mechanics to them or link them to some videos they can use and they say "that's complicated, can someone just sav for me" :(
iamthetie 10 months ago
@iamthetie well, breeding is a time consuming process, and I know not everyone has time for it. No Auto leveling in Black and White doesn't help.
TheGuyWhoIsSitting 10 months ago
When will you invite President Obama to your Metapodcast?
SagaciousSilence 10 months ago
Haven't even watched it yet but XERXES!! This is going to be awesome =D
shogundapker 10 months ago
Ahh, couldn't WAIT for this to go up. I'll be sure to have some popcorn ready for Part 2!
I really had a blast guys. Its gunna be even more fun reading all the comments too.
mtgxerxes 10 months ago 16
Tbh Mew should be uber for the same reason Salamence was uber in gen 4, it can run different sets and each one is countered by another type of pokemon.
Eston24 10 months ago
What is your opinino of Pokesav/Pokegen - - Does it really compromise anything for the game ?
poop210 10 months ago
castform needs a sand form and all stats need to 80-85ish epic anti weath pokemon :3
Spakiness 10 months ago
I don't understand why mence is uber. It never gave me too much trouble.
MyAnkleTheLeprechaun 10 months ago
what pokemon do you think should be bannn???
and how do you feel about banning of blaziken both abillities??
emocardz 10 months ago
Q: When most of the more known pokemon youtubers such as Wilechase,E-Lo, Shofu, etc. decide that they are finished with youtube pokemon, Who can you see as a big pokemon youtuber sometime in the future?
nodnarbsallaib 10 months ago
isn't part 2 in like 3 days or something?
MudkidMudslap 10 months ago
Really enjoyed this, can't wait for part 2 :D
emperorznb 10 months ago 2
That match with rik and xerxes was one of the best ones i've seen on youtube to be honest
battlepower777 10 months ago
Can haz part 2???????//
SquirtleScott92 10 months ago
2 parts? Best day ever.
JUMBOJIBDYJOB 10 months ago
Rik: No wait...
Good cliffhanger o.o
Voltazux 10 months ago
Theres no point in seeing the other guy's team because you see all the same pokes all the time.
KameloxYx 10 months ago 4
Q: Do you think Smogon should have less or more control over the Poke' community? Or is Smogon fine as it is?
TheShuckleProduction 10 months ago
I have a question, that once was asked on Duude1991's 15 questions video: Is there any pronounciation to a Pokemon name that you have that you know it's wrong, but you still pronounce it that way anyway?
AsawRetuow 10 months ago 3
Awesome interview
MrHoenn 10 months ago
fuck yes
MrVKCA 10 months ago
Fuck yeah, Xerxes!
NOW WHO THE FUCK DISLIKED?
aalkaline 10 months ago 77
@aalkaline i did by accident i fixed it by refreshing a bunch of times and hitting like each time!
MaNeSh15 10 months ago
@aalkaline Pokemoshpit
AmazingEminem 10 months ago
@aalkaline color blind ppl
Alpha1JCDJ 10 months ago
@aalkaline Dmac disliked it, and he tried to get all his pokemoshpit followers to dislike it too. haha
MonsterArmy23 10 months ago
@MonsterArmy23 lolwut? whyyy
jomama0723 10 months ago
@aalkaline Lady GayGay Fergay Kesha
Jamtastication 10 months ago
when will this episode be on itunes?
DJDDragon 10 months ago
@DJDDragon Monday. Every Metapodcast comes on YT on Sunday, then iTunes on Monday.
SazandoraMaster 10 months ago
@SazandoraMaster thanks :)
DJDDragon 10 months ago
@DJDDragon I'll put it up tonight if you want it for when you go to school/work tomorrow
KwandaoRen66 10 months ago
cool
dudedan53 10 months ago
but the person above does :D
senoritaliano 10 months ago
yay lol?
legendarycatcher 10 months ago
When can we expect part 2?
LuhhTown 10 months ago 49
@LuhhTown wensday
1104lebron 10 months ago
@LuhhTown
1 week probably or more
juannunez3000 10 months ago
@LuhhTown He said about Wednesday
Goldendriger 10 months ago
"Do you breed?"
Xerxes: "Yeah definitely" lol
juannunez3000 10 months ago
@LuhhTown I recall him saying it was coming sometime around Wednesday in another video.
Icky34 10 months ago
@LuhhTown wedsnday
Nanashi742 10 months ago
@LuhhTown Rik said part 2 comes out Wednesday
salmon443 10 months ago
@LuhhTown he said he would upload this wednesday
1998pokemon4 10 months ago
@LuhhTown Wednesday I believe.
oldsoulyoungbody 10 months ago
@LuhhTown I think Rik will put it up on Wednesday
RabicuMoet 10 months ago
Hey
TheShuckleProduction 10 months ago
hi
Calcune 10 months ago
hello
1milechamp 10 months ago