One thing I'll say about the speakers, they speak of "somewhere in our history, we've embraced anti-intellectual behavior"...brother said "I don't know where that happened". It's as if his memory is short or he's forgotten about the fact we've (blacks) have just undergone 400 years of intellectual "beat down"! The call it "slavery and discrimination". The fact is we haven't ever addressed the damage that was done to the minds of blacks. We've lost our minds, and can't find them!
@534bleek "U aint welcome in the ghetto"...is that suppose to be a desirable thing? LOL "Ghetto is a fashion", is that a copeout, a sign that certain people have fully embraced ignorance and "anti-intellectual" character and behavior? "U haven't witnessed"...every major city has one, it sure "Aint Hard to Find"! Wake up!
This is a very interesting view but even more importantly, it relates to "raising the bar" and committing to "personal standards." The problem in my view is about a lack of influence in the home of a true Leader. A real man in the family household has to step up and influence his children to "Live a life of bold and courageous action inspired by powerful dreams." Discard the enemy of racism and predjudice.
tell him. people that haven't been around it don't understand. i can tell you though that i was welcome in the ghetto. i worked there for 7 years. never felt unwelcome. a lot of good people there. and some bad ones. just like any other place. you don't judge a whole batch on a few bad apples.
anti-intellectualism in the black community correlates to the anti-intellectualism in American society in general. A nation that's a super power. That doesn't resemble a first world country at all. There is a reason for this.
Being a thug, hood, or ghetto is like a fashion. At the moment, that is the current era in which we live in. I'm sure with more African American success, more will slowly breakaway from this trend and move towards intelectualism. Some people thrive the hood, because they believe it means their tough, or have had a difficult life. In time, im sure the fade will end its shift, as everything else does.
People are such hypocrites, unable to be pleased. I as a 26 year old black male, am offend stereotyped as being a thug; however, when do articulate myself, I am called a nerd or weird. It's one of the worst feelings ever.
I feel ur pain man. Im a 23 year old black man. i got criticized from my own race for not being "hood enough" and from whites for not living up to a thuggish image or being cool enough. But u know what brotha? Its become my greatest strength.
Yes, adversity does memake us strong. See, I almost embody the "thug" image in my deameanor. It's not that I intentionally dress or act as such, it just the way I'm percieved. So the people I relate to fear me, and the ones I have nothing in common with, fear and sometimes respect me, until they see that I am not of the same mindset.
I understand you both. My whole life I've been called white, lame, and proper because I speak English. I'm sorry. I didn't know that being Black meant speaking ignorantly or not snitching or living substandard lives.
good for you. i am sure you don't have a problem being tested in math and "verbal" intelligence. there are not multiple intelligences, just different ways of testing it.
i worked in SC for 7 years, and a lot of kids were illiterate, but the schools simply didn't care, and discipline at home was a problem.
You, perhaps, are generalizing ALL blacks. These gentleman are not. They are simply talking about a prevailing mindset of dumbing down that flourishes in the black community.
Is this anti-intellectualism stronger among poor Blacks compared to the middle class and up? Don't you find a difference with whites on this involving class also? Many poor whites probably are no more pro-intellectual than poor Blacks. Maybe this issue is more common with Blacks because we have a higher poverty rate?
Many Blacks want to indentify with the ghetto or the hood because Blacks in the ghetto are viewed as the worse victims of white oppression so there's a misguided attempt to show solidarity with those Blacks in the ghetto.
I want to change the test and provide an education system that educates every child in order to develop his or her ability. I am very worried in Americans cannot hold the contradictions of social situation in which they live.
It's a factor now that white supremacy is a direction of democracy.
You can see how agency works, and how economic changes happen, and who get's hit and who doesn't. Is it a backslash to say that your poor and running out of intelligent occupations?
Intelligence is defined as: n. the capacity to acquire and apply knowledge, information.
The problems in our society as far as the "anti intellectualism" is the lack of information provided to our people. How can you make an intelligent decision or an intelligent solution to a problem without the proper information?
There is a deliberate "dumbing down" in our communities restricting us to ill-informed decision making.
The dumbing down is deliberate. No doubt. Our society is designed to keep a working class at the bottom. Many blacks in our community assist with or perpetuate this system.
To the speakers, yes being intelligent is frowned upon because of the images that are in the popular media. Many brothers in Atlanta, I call them cookie-cutter brothers. We embrace ignorance and the thug mentality. Families and the entertainment industry really need to start providing more positive images to our youth.
I agree with you, you infidel. Social stratification is a part of generational curses that are consistently being reinforced from within the community of the "generationally cursed. The community that praises individuality, as long as it's an individuality identifying with the community. That is a major weight on the youth in the black community. Those of us who are exposed to something other than a predisposed demographic must help our friends and family. Cookie-cutter brothers? What's that?
It's up to parents to tell their children the value of education. It's up to parents to tell them that the entertainment industry doesn't reflect the values one needs. Pouring more taxpayer money into education has gone on for years with little or no positive results. Why do orientals do so well? THE FAMILY UNIT. When you have children who have no fathers and don't know what they'll eat that night, it's hard to get ahead. It would be nice if fathers would step up to the plate and be fathers.
Secondly, "blacks" have not had control of Zimbabwe since before the savages of europe came there...Robert Mugabe does NOT represent the "blacks" of Zimbabwe...much to the glee of Britian, who uses him as an excuse to not pay their agreed restitution to the people of Zimbabwe. When "blacks" had control of that area, it was one of the richest trade areas in the entire world, while europe was a relative unknown.
Now, show some proof of this "20 point IQ gap" fantasy you have.
Blacks do not de-value education purposefully and never have. It is simply the black experience in America where many of us have been put into survival mode. Many youths have to drop out of school to help the family make money. This experience cannot be compared to white and asians and therefore is a loaded question to ask and only a fantasy of Hitlerite ignorant white racist.
These 2 brother have fallen into a trap laid by white ignorant racist. IT's just like this idiot posting here that blacks are "hunter gatherers", then 2 blacks discuss why so many blacks are H/G, when that permise is not true from the beginning. (Cont.)
You have just lowered your IQ and shown your ignorance. A person with a higher reasoning IQ would know to research such things before making such generalizations.
"Hunter gatherers" in Afrika always have and still do only make up 3% - 10% of the "black" african population. Most of the rest have always been sedentary cultivators since their bringing civilization up the Nile Valley.
"Even though IQ doesn't matter on an individual level..."
Your quote doesn't explain what "seals the fate" means. Are you talking genocide or what? You IQ geeks are compensating for a lack of something human. Look at the the triumph of the large IQ people. Global Warming. Perpetual War. The Police State. George Orwell would love this shit.
Do you mean to tell me that you EVERY black person you meet has a low IQ? EVERY black Soldier, Professional, Teacher, Astronaut is part of "Black Underachievement"? White Supremacy is warping your mind.
Sounds like you didn't do so well. If you simply ask yourself what could be the the purpose of an IQ test you will eventually get back to Darwin and white supremacist ideology which has been nothing but pseudo-science with a great publicity machine. The fact that you believe that there is such a thing as "black underachievement" is a indicator of your white supremacist leanings. (continued)
It's been done many times before in the 70s and 80s. Why don't you take the black consciousness IQ test and see how well you do? I suspect your score will be low, but then that's the point.
You missed the real point. IQ tests are designed to test the knowledge you have received from certain experiences. In a large sense, they test your knowledge of upper middle class white thinking. Why should you be surprised that whites score better when the purpose of even giving them is to enforce the concept of racial inferiority. They work. duh
Then empower kids to learn how to be entrepreneurs early on in life. Schools should teach the subject, after all these kids are either going to work for a company (profit or non profit) or create their own path by owning businesses. Let's really teach them real life lessons. Why do we still have to follow the industrial age style of education while we are in digital, service- oriented age?
Go get John Mcwhorter's Losing The Race: Self Sabotage in Black America. Even though i'm not a Republican I found it hard to disagree with his terribly valid points.
I think McClendon is correct and I love his theories. My mom corrected me everytime i said something she knew was improper, i.e WE IS, WE AIN'T, GONNA, and when i have a child I will do the same thing
There are no Black opinion shows on the national level right now. Tavis is the closest thing to it, but McClendon Report is the logical evolution of his work.
BTW, Who said anything about Chicago? This is global.
What you don't understand is that there is a need for an economic underclass. Not everybody will be rich, and someone must take out the trash and clean the toilets. The white man wants to lower the standards to keep us lower than our potential.
The problems are the single black women with children and the black men who will not take responsibility because there is a safety net called WELFARE.
i think african americans are not motivated and the standard of achievement is much lower for african americans. and it has nothing to do whith white people, it is blacks perpetuating the cycle. another thing is most black adults are under educated, and pass this terrible disadvantage on to their children
You are right! now we need to convince Mr.Mcclendon to write another book on negating words and how to correctly pluralized a word. if i hear one more unresponsible, or vandalizers i am going to scream
One thing I'll say about the speakers, they speak of "somewhere in our history, we've embraced anti-intellectual behavior"...brother said "I don't know where that happened". It's as if his memory is short or he's forgotten about the fact we've (blacks) have just undergone 400 years of intellectual "beat down"! The call it "slavery and discrimination". The fact is we haven't ever addressed the damage that was done to the minds of blacks. We've lost our minds, and can't find them!
ThePlaytoe 2 months ago
@534bleek "U aint welcome in the ghetto"...is that suppose to be a desirable thing? LOL "Ghetto is a fashion", is that a copeout, a sign that certain people have fully embraced ignorance and "anti-intellectual" character and behavior? "U haven't witnessed"...every major city has one, it sure "Aint Hard to Find"! Wake up!
ThePlaytoe 2 months ago
This is a very interesting view but even more importantly, it relates to "raising the bar" and committing to "personal standards." The problem in my view is about a lack of influence in the home of a true Leader. A real man in the family household has to step up and influence his children to "Live a life of bold and courageous action inspired by powerful dreams." Discard the enemy of racism and predjudice.
RalphMFlores1 9 months ago
The first step to solving this problem is getting rid of BET.
jons44 1 year ago 3
I love education. But what it's done to me in my time in public schools were shameful.
visionimagify 1 year ago
tell him. people that haven't been around it don't understand. i can tell you though that i was welcome in the ghetto. i worked there for 7 years. never felt unwelcome. a lot of good people there. and some bad ones. just like any other place. you don't judge a whole batch on a few bad apples.
brownbigb 1 year ago
anti-intellectualism in the black community correlates to the anti-intellectualism in American society in general. A nation that's a super power. That doesn't resemble a first world country at all. There is a reason for this.
lordblazer 2 years ago
destitution = blue collar gang like activity.
It plays a significant roll.
JoyeuxLj 2 years ago
Being a thug, hood, or ghetto is like a fashion. At the moment, that is the current era in which we live in. I'm sure with more African American success, more will slowly breakaway from this trend and move towards intelectualism. Some people thrive the hood, because they believe it means their tough, or have had a difficult life. In time, im sure the fade will end its shift, as everything else does.
daflava1987 2 years ago
it's not a fashion. it's not so easy to shed for the kids that grow up in there. it's more than a "fad"
brownbigb 1 year ago
It's all good though, I've learned to focus on me. I don't have to relate to anyone now.
1Mumiaabujamal 2 years ago
People are such hypocrites, unable to be pleased. I as a 26 year old black male, am offend stereotyped as being a thug; however, when do articulate myself, I am called a nerd or weird. It's one of the worst feelings ever.
1studentoftruth 2 years ago 4
I feel ur pain man. Im a 23 year old black man. i got criticized from my own race for not being "hood enough" and from whites for not living up to a thuggish image or being cool enough. But u know what brotha? Its become my greatest strength.
Heyjose25points 2 years ago 2
Yes, adversity does memake us strong. See, I almost embody the "thug" image in my deameanor. It's not that I intentionally dress or act as such, it just the way I'm percieved. So the people I relate to fear me, and the ones I have nothing in common with, fear and sometimes respect me, until they see that I am not of the same mindset.
1Mumiaabujamal 2 years ago
I understand you both. My whole life I've been called white, lame, and proper because I speak English. I'm sorry. I didn't know that being Black meant speaking ignorantly or not snitching or living substandard lives.
equincuocha 2 years ago 3
good for you. i am sure you don't have a problem being tested in math and "verbal" intelligence. there are not multiple intelligences, just different ways of testing it.
i worked in SC for 7 years, and a lot of kids were illiterate, but the schools simply didn't care, and discipline at home was a problem.
brownbigb 1 year ago
it's good that you didn't give in to the stereotype that was expected from you. good for you. unfortunately, not every kid is strong like that.
brownbigb 1 year ago
Precisely, infidelguy. You get it.
Brilliantbeing 3 years ago
It's cool to be dumb in the da hood shawty, yean' know?
infidelguy 3 years ago
i think u should re word the vid description you're generalizing ALL blacks!!
Jwriter4 3 years ago
You, perhaps, are generalizing ALL blacks. These gentleman are not. They are simply talking about a prevailing mindset of dumbing down that flourishes in the black community.
Brilliantbeing 3 years ago 3
no i am not i did responses to these vids perhaps you should watch them! and YES they're GENERALIZING BLACKS NOT I!!
Jwriter4 3 years ago
Is class connected with this issue?
Is this anti-intellectualism stronger among poor Blacks compared to the middle class and up? Don't you find a difference with whites on this involving class also? Many poor whites probably are no more pro-intellectual than poor Blacks. Maybe this issue is more common with Blacks because we have a higher poverty rate?
CrowdPleeza 3 years ago 2
Many Blacks want to indentify with the ghetto or the hood because Blacks in the ghetto are viewed as the worse victims of white oppression so there's a misguided attempt to show solidarity with those Blacks in the ghetto.
CrowdPleeza 3 years ago 5
I want to change the test and provide an education system that educates every child in order to develop his or her ability. I am very worried in Americans cannot hold the contradictions of social situation in which they live.
bmoreg 3 years ago
It's a factor now that white supremacy is a direction of democracy.
You can see how agency works, and how economic changes happen, and who get's hit and who doesn't. Is it a backslash to say that your poor and running out of intelligent occupations?
emailpack 4 years ago
Intelligence is defined as: n. the capacity to acquire and apply knowledge, information.
The problems in our society as far as the "anti intellectualism" is the lack of information provided to our people. How can you make an intelligent decision or an intelligent solution to a problem without the proper information?
There is a deliberate "dumbing down" in our communities restricting us to ill-informed decision making.
MADMAHD 4 years ago 7
The dumbing down is deliberate. No doubt. Our society is designed to keep a working class at the bottom. Many blacks in our community assist with or perpetuate this system.
To the speakers, yes being intelligent is frowned upon because of the images that are in the popular media. Many brothers in Atlanta, I call them cookie-cutter brothers. We embrace ignorance and the thug mentality. Families and the entertainment industry really need to start providing more positive images to our youth.
infidelguy 3 years ago 11
I agree with you, you infidel. Social stratification is a part of generational curses that are consistently being reinforced from within the community of the "generationally cursed. The community that praises individuality, as long as it's an individuality identifying with the community. That is a major weight on the youth in the black community. Those of us who are exposed to something other than a predisposed demographic must help our friends and family. Cookie-cutter brothers? What's that?
amazinero 3 years ago 2
It's up to parents to tell their children the value of education. It's up to parents to tell them that the entertainment industry doesn't reflect the values one needs. Pouring more taxpayer money into education has gone on for years with little or no positive results. Why do orientals do so well? THE FAMILY UNIT. When you have children who have no fathers and don't know what they'll eat that night, it's hard to get ahead. It would be nice if fathers would step up to the plate and be fathers.
2eelShmeal 3 years ago 4
"Willy Lynch Syndrome"
For five hundred years, being smart got you whip mutilated killed, being dumb and physically strong secured survival.
Emancipate yourself from mental slavery, nothing but ourselves can free our minds
-Bob Marley
Read Post traumatic slave syndrome- Joy DeGruy Leary, PHD
The same thing happens in the UK with Afro-Caribbean boys
They are the minority, but the most likely victims of gun crime,(Highest rate) perpetrated by their peers
-Know thy self
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CarjackerSchool 4 years ago
Secondly, "blacks" have not had control of Zimbabwe since before the savages of europe came there...Robert Mugabe does NOT represent the "blacks" of Zimbabwe...much to the glee of Britian, who uses him as an excuse to not pay their agreed restitution to the people of Zimbabwe. When "blacks" had control of that area, it was one of the richest trade areas in the entire world, while europe was a relative unknown.
Now, show some proof of this "20 point IQ gap" fantasy you have.
lionzion22 4 years ago 4
Good. you have shown your true ignorant colors. Black intelligence will always bring that out of idiots like you.
lionzion22 4 years ago 3
Blacks do not de-value education purposefully and never have. It is simply the black experience in America where many of us have been put into survival mode. Many youths have to drop out of school to help the family make money. This experience cannot be compared to white and asians and therefore is a loaded question to ask and only a fantasy of Hitlerite ignorant white racist.
lionzion22 4 years ago
These 2 brother have fallen into a trap laid by white ignorant racist. IT's just like this idiot posting here that blacks are "hunter gatherers", then 2 blacks discuss why so many blacks are H/G, when that permise is not true from the beginning. (Cont.)
lionzion22 4 years ago
Interesting view point.
garrardmc 4 years ago
You have just lowered your IQ and shown your ignorance. A person with a higher reasoning IQ would know to research such things before making such generalizations.
"Hunter gatherers" in Afrika always have and still do only make up 3% - 10% of the "black" african population. Most of the rest have always been sedentary cultivators since their bringing civilization up the Nile Valley.
lionzion22 4 years ago
Interesting...
garrardmc 4 years ago
superperpetrator quoted:
"Even though IQ doesn't matter on an individual level..."
Your quote doesn't explain what "seals the fate" means. Are you talking genocide or what? You IQ geeks are compensating for a lack of something human. Look at the the triumph of the large IQ people. Global Warming. Perpetual War. The Police State. George Orwell would love this shit.
easmachine 4 years ago 3
Do you mean to tell me that you EVERY black person you meet has a low IQ? EVERY black Soldier, Professional, Teacher, Astronaut is part of "Black Underachievement"? White Supremacy is warping your mind.
easmachine 4 years ago
Sounds like you didn't do so well. If you simply ask yourself what could be the the purpose of an IQ test you will eventually get back to Darwin and white supremacist ideology which has been nothing but pseudo-science with a great publicity machine. The fact that you believe that there is such a thing as "black underachievement" is a indicator of your white supremacist leanings. (continued)
easmachine 4 years ago
It's been done many times before in the 70s and 80s. Why don't you take the black consciousness IQ test and see how well you do? I suspect your score will be low, but then that's the point.
easmachine 4 years ago
Ha! Dumb-ass coon keepin it real. Always with the excuses. Niggers are just plain stupid! How's that for an excuse?
Biggest, most irrelevant pests on earth, the damn savage backwards nigger. Soon, though...
FritztheKat123 4 years ago
I think you've got them confused with your self. Simple explanations for simple minds, eh Fritz?
mkabbz 3 years ago
You missed the real point. IQ tests are designed to test the knowledge you have received from certain experiences. In a large sense, they test your knowledge of upper middle class white thinking. Why should you be surprised that whites score better when the purpose of even giving them is to enforce the concept of racial inferiority. They work. duh
easmachine 4 years ago
Brilliantly stated.
Homegirl1982 4 years ago
come by and look at my "black boy middle school" parts 1 and 2.
bygINCpresents 4 years ago
What does tests have to do with intelligence?
BbdHome 4 years ago
What *do* tests have to do with intelligence?
The same correlation is seen as with proper grammar.
andersontucker 4 years ago
14words, look, those numbers ain't real. mines 102 so we's just as smart as u!
panther9mm 4 years ago
"WE REALLY HAVE TO DEFINE TERMS HERE!"
willyrobinson 4 years ago
amen!
steveinamerica 4 years ago
Want smart education?
Then empower kids to learn how to be entrepreneurs early on in life. Schools should teach the subject, after all these kids are either going to work for a company (profit or non profit) or create their own path by owning businesses. Let's really teach them real life lessons. Why do we still have to follow the industrial age style of education while we are in digital, service- oriented age?
biz4kids 4 years ago
Go get John Mcwhorter's Losing The Race: Self Sabotage in Black America. Even though i'm not a Republican I found it hard to disagree with his terribly valid points.
madchemist5926 4 years ago
I think McClendon is correct and I love his theories. My mom corrected me everytime i said something she knew was improper, i.e WE IS, WE AIN'T, GONNA, and when i have a child I will do the same thing
jredditt84 4 years ago
That is a green screen shot, but we ended up choosing black in post production.
Brilliantbeing 4 years ago
There are no Black opinion shows on the national level right now. Tavis is the closest thing to it, but McClendon Report is the logical evolution of his work.
BTW, Who said anything about Chicago? This is global.
Brilliantbeing 4 years ago
This is groundbreaking television. I'm sure CNN or CSPAN with incorporate these gentlemen into their mix soon.
Brilliantbeing 4 years ago
What you don't understand is that there is a need for an economic underclass. Not everybody will be rich, and someone must take out the trash and clean the toilets. The white man wants to lower the standards to keep us lower than our potential.
The problems are the single black women with children and the black men who will not take responsibility because there is a safety net called WELFARE.
panther9mm 4 years ago
i think african americans are not motivated and the standard of achievement is much lower for african americans. and it has nothing to do whith white people, it is blacks perpetuating the cycle. another thing is most black adults are under educated, and pass this terrible disadvantage on to their children
jredditt84 4 years ago
Great comments...the standards aren't "white people" standards as much as they are low expectations in many African communties. Appreciate it.
garrardmc 4 years ago
YOU ARE 100% CORRECT.
jredditt84 4 years ago
You are right! now we need to convince Mr.Mcclendon to write another book on negating words and how to correctly pluralized a word. if i hear one more unresponsible, or vandalizers i am going to scream
jredditt84 4 years ago