Okay, I'm not going to barrage you over a typo... but I think you ought to consider the time difference between this, the original (1971 during the Vietnam war), and 'The Pogues' cover wasn't released until 1985!
Personally, I've always adored 'The Pogues' but Shane's rendition - while fabulously done - doesn't do justice to the confusion posed by Bogle's lyrics. Shane spits it out bitterly which doesn't tally with unfolding of a storyline as it evolves.
@jamsieboy1986 This song uses the device of first-person narrative leading us through naivety & the desire to fight for that which we, as ordinary people, deem to be morally honourable. It's the story of a working-class man-boy who believes that the ruling classes hold the same ideals. Only, as the story unfolds, does he question the truth of the sacrifice he & so many others made for the privileged/elite to uphold THEIR power & interests. Sadness & questions are predominant, not anger.
No need to apologize. Just be aware Bogle is a lefty shit stirrer, a republican in a land who appreciates the Monarchy. The idea of the words of the song I concur with, WW1 was pointless, but so was WW2 which was an extension of WW1. The Bogle's of the world conveniently avoid WW2, it might upset their paymasters
RIP Gallipoli heroes died fighting at Gallipoli James Breen and James Heffernan my husbands two great uncles died of wounds and both killed at Gallipoli ( My Mum in Laws Two Uncles)
@MrSlywon It's the greatest human tragedy of all: our inability to learn from the horrors of history.
I wish I could have a less cynical attitude towards humanity... yet the reality is that we keep repeating ourselves from generation to generation. For a species so 'apparently' evolved we remain the basest of all animals.
Thank you to all the ANZACs that gave their lives so we can live our's in peace. Your memory lives on. I also appreciated the Turkish soldiers that defended their homeland from an unrelenting enemy.
we were churchills dogs bodys ,sent in to do dirty mans job can you imagine the sence in taking a horse to a beach landing ,how stupid is that ,it was an ill thought out battle imagine if we did get our horses over the ridge and thought the turks on there farm land on horse back,Lonepine need not have happened,God Bless em All who gave there lives for us
@12fangs I don't understand why this was marked as being spam. You're absolutely correct. The entire campaign was a mistake. I don't care how charismatic Churchill was, nor how much people adulate him. Neither he nor the other officers of the Realm condemned themselves to the trenches. What the elite had the privilege to write off as being what the spin doctors now call 'collateral damage' were thousands upon thousands of ordinary young men. May their memories live on for the working classes.
@irynski Churchilkl was scum. He organized Gallipoli and also organized behind the scenes with Duff Cooper and the others to get us into an unnecessary war against Hitler, using Poland as the excuse.
Churchill in Australia is both venerated and hated. He was a drunk, bi polar and a homicidal nuisance who caused the deaths due to his military adventurism
such a waste life. all of this wasted time and resources could have gone to developing new medicines or studies in physics. to save and improve everyone's living standards in the world so we don't need war.
He is singing of the futility of war. Nobody wins, we all lose. So many young men who never came home. It's still going on now because we we just wont learn! There must be a better way.
This is OZ.No matter the original poster.We are not a war like people but we have a definite history. Not looking to expand an empire but looking to thwart the axis. wish we could achieve it without the body count.
@Jonno1955 he got wrong the casualty numbers wrong too. 50,000 Australians? Try 7,500. 75,000 Turks also died defending their home from a belligerent aggressor.
@Datsyukfan123 Have you actually listened to this impartially? No doubt your first encounter with this song was via Liam Clancy. Yes, he did a 'nice' rendition of it, but Eric Bogle was the man who wrote it &, having heard the many covers, it still stands as the most touching & passionate version (1971).
You're welcome to your opinion, of course, but this is the version we - in Australia - knew first & foremost. It remains as powerful & true as the first time I heard it. It IS the song!
@irynski It is the song you say? Then why are we in Iraq Aghanistan etc. No one takes any notice of the song, which by the way, was a commercial, for profit production
@alanbstard4 I say that it is the definitive version of the song best sung & interpreted by the guy who wrote it. Hell of an argument you've got going: you've even tossed in the kitchen sink. If you're going to throw commercialism into the dialogue then you might as well address the source of the problem & why humans are still being propagandised... it's called capitalism as the global economic system. Don't pull at little strands & present them as absolutes. We all work for a commercial system!
@alanbstard4 To be honest, I can't fathom why you've chosen to jump down my throat. I suspect you've read something & projected your own context onto it. Try reading my comment properly. You might realise that I'm expressing an opinion as to whether this version is better than the cover by The Pogues or by The Dubliners... or are you suggesting that one of the covers is not for profit?
@irynski I'm not jumpig down your throat. Just explaining the Bogle type. The song as such I have no problems with. However, you must understand the history of personality and national politics to know these things
In fact I think your efforts to inform people is to be applauded
Strange thing, Gallipoli, we killed so many more of them and still lost. However, on even ground at Beersheba, we cleaned " Johnny Turk " up in the last great Horse charge in history
@alanbstard4 'The Bogle type'. Could I use this as a premise for research papers? As the system has de-volved, research & conference papers have have become verbose bollocks. Tertiary education has benefited greatly by the US Corporate methodology being superimposed over the old bureaucratic system!
More ideas on how to sell education as being 'sexy'? It's all about marketing in order to get the children of the elite interested in subjects. Pity they're illiterate. Still, they generate BUCKS!
@alanbstard4 Hey, who wouldn't be prepared to be a dedicated 'working class hero' by singing 'The Internationale' at thousands of euros a pop?
I'm practising my broadest Aussie accent & am ready to pretend to huff & puff & blow the piggies' house down. D'ya think I could make a lucrative profession of it?
@alanbstard4 I suspect the 'moon' to Braggs tides are his bank account, stock, bonds, shares....
I'll be pulling out some old images from 'The Bulletin' and reading "Clancy of the Overflow". Squawk, "Any'ow, 'ave a Winfield!" then you, too, can dodge taxes & have the support of the taxpaying masses, too.
That was sheer cruelty throwing John Williamson into the mix. I've just turned blue-y at the mention of his name. Freedom of expression is one thing - but he should be illegal.
@irynski oh yes. Bragg is a true communist. In the end there is money, usually somebody else's for him.Williamson is the only chap I know of that cultivates illiteracy. Manufactured commercial ockerism
@alanbstard4 lol! A working class hero is something NOT to be unless you can reap the rewards (in spades) while you live a long and lucrative life. Those who are/have become true working class heroes have martyred themselves in order for the bastards of the world to make a tidy profit from their names.
Long live the revolution (so long as I can make a buck out of it and maintain an audience who can't get enough of my hypocrisy)! Nice work if you can get it.
@irynski Oh sorry, my point? The lyrics reflect the result of the disaster launched by that drunkard and criminal, W S Churchill, one of the most hated public figures in Australia, although there are a few that revere him
The returned soldiers hated him. " The " great man " my arse. You may love him up there, not all here do.
@alanbstard4 I'm wondering how drunk YOU are! Again, READ MY COMMENT, moron!
Up there? I'm down here, dolt.
I condemned Churchill, you dullard. How the hell could you read praise into a response to comment marked as spam for speaking the truth about Churchill's being one of the elite who serve only the plutocracy.
The bastard should have been tried for Crimes Against Humanity (see also the mustard gas bombings of Mesopotamia in the early 20's)!
@alanbstard4 Haha! Precisely why I enjoyed flaming you! Everyone gets to be knee-jerk reactionary with pretences to having some substance behind the form on YT. I wonder if you ever actually had a political ideology? Irrelevant. Commercial concerns demand that you be as you are: inconsistent with a few facts behind you. Reminds me of Dylan's great words, "Everybody must get stoned!"... Er, maybe it was something else about masters. Meh. He's just turned into a born-again reactionary, anyway.
@alanbstard4 PS If you want some serious action, may I suggest that you bone up on Eastern European history & go to any of the folk dancing or folk singing vids? If you want a decent argument with people who actually have a little idea of what they're talking about & are reasonably articulate (including English). I'm lucky(?!) enough to be of that decent & know a few languages. It's THE place to go for venting your spleen & actually starting intelligent absurdist dialogues.
@alanbstard4 Oh, don't give me that! You only need to know how to pronounce the names of a couple of cities plus a few key figures in order to create the illusion that you're an expert.
Any facts or miscellaneous knowledge will be accepted as being authoritative so long as it's done with confidence. Listeners will automatically be convinced that you actually have an intricate understanding of the region. It's all about having an uninformed opinion. You KNOW it'll wash if you're loud!
To put a end to war, we must put a end to the bankers. For every war through out history except for a couple, it was the bankers who sounded the drums of war!
@303anzac Absolutely! At the basis of every war lie the interests of the plutocracy.
Events leading to WWI propagandised the cannon-fodder (that's all the masses were perceived as being) as fighting to the relatively new concept of Nation-State. Nation-State was just a way of duping people into believing that they were serving their Nation.
It's all about Imperialism, although the new Imperialists are the Multinationals.
Istargazer - Fantastic! A++. (My Dad used to play this song on remembrance day and I often thought how I should share this song with my peers).
The song always makes me think of my Pop, who was posted in New Guinea (WW2). He never spoke about the war. And the line 'What are they marching for?' you emphasised, I think is 'THE' line in the song..Pop never marched, except once, the year before he died??
Here's hoping there is more like-minded youth like you out there. We might be alright..?
To all Diggers past and present, to all that have served in action and to the ones that have not.....to all the Diggers that have paid the altermate price for our freedom you will always be remembered, your spirit will live on forever. If you don't like our Diggers, it just means you have not the guts to put on the uniform, a rifle in your arms and fight....LEST WE FORGET (From a Ex-Aussie Digger)
@ColinVanderheide I love the Diggers, I had three uncles who didn't come back, from this slaughter.14-18 My uncle left his legs in Germany, Dad came home 39-45. My childhood heroes were the Australian Light Horse, especially the charge on Besheeba. What I don't love is the reason that two very young countries lost so many young men and women and for what. This song is simple, the people turned their backs on the wounded.maimed and insane. A special thought for the Anzac Vietnam vets.
@rhinobarrows Same thing pretty much don't you realize? That's all the rulers care about. You support the troops and cannot say the war is not worth fighting because that weakens the troops' morale, which is all important to their survival on the front.
It's a lovely song full of good intention but sadly incorrect. The "Heroes of Suvla" were Irish and English troops NOT Australian. The Aussies and New Zealanders were on another beach entirely . They were all brave young men regardless but it's disappointing that Eric got it wrong.
@Jonno1955 Agreed in terms of the veracity of facts, however I have to throw my hat in with @BenjiQ575 in terms of the flow of the song. I think this has entered our consciousness (certainly mine) as being the most poignant song ever written about the terrible consequences of war.
If you were to analyse the folk songs of any nation you'd find that it is the general sensibility which remains &, I hope, this will become regarded as an Aussie folk song & encourage the young to explore its origins.
The bending of the historical truth to create this lovely and important song is permissable with me too. Eric gets the important message across. I just got annoyed by the ignorant people who were convinced that the lyrics in the song must be true and argued the point without researching what REALLY happened at Suvla Bay and to whom.
@Jonno1955 I suspect that many people aren't aware of the context of the song. It was written while the draft was still in place in Australia & addresses the greater concerns of war as being the 'ordinary bloke' being asked to give everything for wars based on lies to protect the interests of the elite.
I remember the barrel draw on telly for who was to be drafted for the Vietnam war. Relatives & friends were recruited... to serve whose interests? THAT is the truth behind this song!
@Jonno1955 This is unsubstantiated, but I was told that he only said Suvla Bay because it went well in the song. If had've actually said Gallipoli Peninsula or The Dardanelles or Tobruk, it wouldn't go well..
Yes I read that too. At least Suvla bay was in the same country as what we now call Anzac Cove. He could have changed it to Acapulco if it had rhymed better. ;-)
@Jonno1955 not 100% wrong, as the ANZAC sacrifices gave the British the opportunity and time to make a landing. A similar strategy would be used at Normandy in WWII.
@Jonno1955 - jeezus mate , stop being a bloody pedant. Who fuggin cares if the lyrics aren't historically correct. like the damb song for what it is.you bloody fools got to fuggin winge about insignificant shit.
Yeah, the young men of Australia and New Zealand were just cannon fodder that were sent to the wrong beach that became a bloodbath instead of one further along.
The TRUTH is in the Wikipedia article aboiut the song. It's Contents No 5 entitled "Factual Inaccuracies". Eric Bogle admits he got it wrong. They are all facts not opinions. Some people seem to enjoy re-writing history.
@Jonno1955 As far as I can tell, the "mistakes" were done largely intentionally for artistic reasons. The tin hat, for example, wasn't introduced until 1916, but it's iconic of the great war. Same thing with Suvla Bay vs. ANZAC Bay.
I don't think any veteran would be offended by this at all. Part of remembrance is accepting that, in the heat of war, bad decisions are made, and the repercussions for the average squaddie can be catastrophic. All vets understand that, and coming to terms with things they were asked to do in time of war IS part of the healing process and thoughtful contributions such as this can only help that process in the long run. Your students should be proud they have a true 'teacher' like you...
Thank you for postng this. I hope your students appreciated your efforts.
I have recently discovered that I have a relative buried on Lemnos who was wounded at Gallipoli. I believe that to date, no member of our family has visited his grave. It is my desire to attend and ANZAC dawn service there and honour him.
Slight error with the text of this clip.... Total Allied deaths (at Gallipolli) were 43,000 British, 15,000 French, 8,700 Australians, 2,700 New Zealanders and 1,370 Indians. Total Turkish deaths were around 60,000. Lest we forget indeed.
This song captures the pure horror of war, loss and bereavement felt by soldiers and their families. Now, with the world's finances in such a mess, is a good time to beware of duplicitous politicians seeking excuses to go to war.
Not to take anything away from the sacrifice of the Anzacs at Gallipoli, but your numbers are a bit off: Total Allied Casualties: 44,092 KIA 96,937 WIA - United Kingdom 21,255 KIA 52,230 WIA - France 10,000 KIA 17,000 WIA - Australia 8,709 KIA 19,441 WIA - New Zealand 2,721 KIA 4,752 WIA -India 1,358 KIA 3,421 WIA - Canada 49 KIA 93 WIA Ottoman Empire: 86,692 KIA 164,617 WIA
I've had a project in mind for a while now. I've been planning on writing a story about WW1 from an Islamic perspective. Naturally that means it would be largely focused on the Gallipolli theater. I haven't decided whether to make the main character Turkish or Australian yet though.
this song is not about , yer politicians or red plumes or reason ,,,its about those who stood up and faced tyrants and dictators so that we can live free
@5bears799 You mean the Irish who rose in rebellion against an oppressive outside government? WW1 didn't have a thing to do with tyranny or dictatorship -- that was WW2. WW1 was all glory,green, pride and stupidity.
@smellincoffee in WW2 the Germans could say they suffered from economic forces and starvation. They did
they returned from WW1 and their nation ravaged by the usual suspects. We declared war on Hitler because he freed his country from the banks and made Germany economically strong.
If we want to avoid war in the future, we gotta stop lying to ourselves and each other and face facts
@AnonymousDiv0 After WW1 the eastern part of Germany was given to Poland by the allies. A referendum in Poland to return to Germany, with over 90% voting for return was not honoured, plus there was the murder & assaults on German speakers and a threat of invasion of Germany by Poland
Poland was the excuse. Also, if Hitler wanted to jump onto the back of Stalin, it couldn't happen to a nicer guy
You really think the average person in the Empire gave a bugger about the Poles
@zapkvr It was the excuse to attack Germany to bring it back into the common banking system. Why did we not declare war on the Soviet Union for Invading Poland with Germany
German speakers in Poland were also being persecuted, and Poland had attacked the Czech border and stated military intentions against Germany
@5bears799 Brave yes, Heros yes, Warriors yes, but the reason for most of wars have been unjustified, they have all been all set up by war profiteers and bankers.
@303anzac No one held a gun to their heads and made them fight. How do you THINK the Viet Nam conflict ended? It was because of the supreme sacrifice of the draft resisters some of whom even went to jail but most of whom were the subject of scorn and ridicule which SHOULD have been directed at the murdering soldiers.
@5bears799 unfortunateley the great war had nothing to do with tyrants or freedom judt arrogance and carelessness on both sides. Don't get me wrong, I have utmost respect for those soldiers, fighting for their country (and freedom they were told) they were just mislead by their leaders. Very very sad
@snakeyjake7 Well that is where you make your first mistake. The invaders from the lowliest conscript to John Monash deserve nothing but our contempt. We romanticise them at our peril. What would you think if in a hundred years anyone said the same thing about Viet Nam? They weren't fighting for anyone's freedom. Eric has it right. The whole enterprise was a total waste of time. Go and watch the last episode of Blackadder Four, you might learn something.
@zapkvr This is where you are terribly wrong. And i question your education at uni or otherwise. We don't live in a green left wing utopia and its these guys that have given us our freedoms. Show respect.
@shauno1970 Respect for what you clown? Anyone who embarks on an ill advised enterprise like WW1 deserves derision and scorn. Show me where I am wrong or STFU.
@snakeyjake7 Well if you do respect them it shows how stupid you are and why these wars will keep happening. They should be treated as the murderers they are. Then there might be some accountability.
@zapkvr you may not agree with the war, and that is fine i don't agree with the basis of the Vietnam war, hell i thought it was stupid, but don't disrespect the troops.
@5bears799 Not correct. In the ottoman empire we were the invaders. We had no business being there. If the turks still ran the place there would be no palestinean question because there would be no Israel. Don't get me wrong, I don't trust the turks either but I trust the Israelis even less. You do know they have an atomic bomb don't you?
anyone killed or affected by war,basically everyone on the planet is the victim of a supposed higher person,national leaders etc incapable of reasonable or rational behavior with respect to other human being.
how many pristine polotician, generals etc with plumes in thier hats rich scarlet sashes and war banding are shown sqirming in filth facing the "enermy" onslaught.war is a means of population control.humans are despensible directly propotion to their wealth.dont relinquish freedom.
anyone killed or affected by war,basically everyone on the planet is the victim of a supposed higher person,national leaders etc incapable of reasonable or rational behavior with respect to other human being.
how many pristine polotician, generals etc with plumes in thier hats rich scarlet sashes and war banding are shown sqirming in filth facing the "enermy" onslaught.war is a means of population control.humans are despensible directly propotion to their wealth.dont relinquish freedom
This song brings tears to my eyes everytime i hear it. And i want everyone to remember that on Gallipoli it wasnt only Australians and Kiwis (New Zealand) that lost their live. The turkish lost many and even if they were the 'enemy' all life is precious.
As Veterans Day in America, or Armistice Day approaches in the coming days, I encourage everyone to realize that we should not only honor the fallen, and survivors of our country, or our allies, but also the men and women who have fought and or died in battles against us, and in ages past. From the Gallipoli Campaign to the War in Afghanistan. From the siege of Stalingrad, to the Sino-Japanese wars. May every soldier, be remembered, and may it be known that they all had names, lest we forget.
Soon be Remembrance Day here in the UK, we will remember our fallen heroes, men like the 'Brave Few' of RAF Fighter Command, the Desert Rats, the 36th (Ulster) Division, the 'Pals' regiments etc. But we will also remember our friends and allies from the gallant Red Army, the Various Resistance movements of occupied Europe, our Canadian and South African cousins, and of course the brave, bold ANZACS.
Britain will never forget their bravery or their sacrifice...God Bless Australia!
@Abtacha666 Not a good number of the US enlistees. They're looking for action, adventure, drama. The battleground is a proving ground in their eyes. Foolish or nasty, that's the way it is.
thank you Ataturk! if there were more people like you in this world, perhaps the waring would cease. its senseless, i wish the world would live and let live.
to reginadeviant does it matter if it was 1or 100000 there were all some ones son husband etc the fact is the generals or commanders including general snow at the somme he kept throwing them over the hill to hell.but lets hope they made it to heaven lest we forget
4:26 "the legless, the armless, the blind and insane those proud wounded heros of Suvla" The Irony of this statement always cuts me down to the core.
It it such a shame how many people use the opportunity to comment as one to push their own political views, this song is a tribute. Whether to those alive, dead, lost or found the meaning is found by the listener, so let us listen...
A beautiful honest song written,& sung by Eric Bogle an Australian Scotsman.
Regardless of Nationality, regardless of being friend or foe. Those that gave, & give their lives are servicepeople. Placed in harms way by foolish arrogant politicians offering up their countries finest for slaughter while they themselves sit safely & protected in ivory towers preparing themselves for the media appearing to be saddened by the loss of their heros, yet urging the country to stay in for the "LONG HAUL"
we all need to remember what we have now, and what they died for.. i can only hope myself that by doing the best i can now, i honor them, and make them proud! may god rest their souls, for if today has it's way, we wouldn't care... lest we forget. they gave us what we have.......
it's not about those who survive... it's about the sacrifice for what we have now. it's about beating tyranny and oppression, and the fact that everyone today seems to forget the sacrifice, both living and passed on, that these soldiers have given. "the young people ask what are they marching for.." it's very true, but those who know the real history will know what they died for... what makes me sad is the big companies that frown on the minute silence.. as if that is going to cost them...
the point was that, this man lived his life, and he went to war and he lived, no one ever triumphed, they just came home, the aussies and the turks, we are all the same, every man ...
Gallipoli was almost 100 years ago, but we still remember. A tearjerker of a song that should be played every ANZAC Day. Thank you to the Diggers in every war.
@ozzz2002 It should be played every day. Look about you at the veterans of politician foolhardinessm make their lives just a little bit easier. A smile or even a small deed of kindness. Remember they are the walking wounded whether wounded or not sent to war for a cause usually unknown to the simple man
Cant understand how these people who fought for US are now relegated into perhaps one day a year. Soon they will all be forgotten Sad and sorry that we can give such people so little recognition all these years later. People in our armed forces are receiving this very same reaction from us and our officials today. For a man to live kill and survive is hard perhaps impossible for some. To me they are still and will always be brave men and women who by me will never be forgotten.
Those heroes that shed their blood and lost their lives.You are now lying in the soil of a friendly countryTherefore rest in peaceThere is no difference between theJohnnies and the Mehmets to us where they lie side by side now here in this country of ours.you, the mothers,who sent their sons from faraway countries wipe away your tears; your sons are now lying in our bosom and are in peace. After having lost their lives on this land.They have become our sons as well.
@hsyn0707 Isn't that the most heart-wrenching thing you could ever read? Says a lot for Ataturk that he could take that attitude towards former enemies.
@hsyn0707 Wish I could like this comment 1,000 times, No leader ever showed as much understanding as this memorial does, and now they are allies. Rest in Peace whatever side you were on......shit I'm crying
war isnt allways the glory it is made up to be! but that being said the world wars are the 2 BIGGGEST CONFLICTS MANKIND HAS EVER SEEN!!!!!!!!!!! no modern limited war can be anywhere that big! but still war sucks great song!
I have a wee problem. I love this amazing ANTI-WAR song about Australian troops slaughtered in WW1, however this video is so interspersed with images of our Canadian brothers fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan, I guarantee you if you were to tell Eric Bogle his wonderful song was being used to glorify the actions of politicians in the 21st Century, he'd choke on his beer
@Roboboogerthagreat I hope your joking. They're cover is horrible. My dog could do better. Every member of that band should be bash for doing such a shitty cover of this amazing song.
@MrsMistressDeath It is the largest price a country can paid, the poker chips are the lives of our young, the future generations of a nation scarred by the wounds of war. Does under yon Flanders field lies the cure for cancer. Does the veld act as an eternal blanket for the men of the future who would have given us a peace.Does lying butchered upon the shores of Dunkirk the cure for the ills of man. Does the body of Rupert Brook lie holding great works. A
The Pogues version is more emtional!
jamsieboy1986 3 days ago
@jamsieboy1986 More 'emtional'?
Okay, I'm not going to barrage you over a typo... but I think you ought to consider the time difference between this, the original (1971 during the Vietnam war), and 'The Pogues' cover wasn't released until 1985!
Personally, I've always adored 'The Pogues' but Shane's rendition - while fabulously done - doesn't do justice to the confusion posed by Bogle's lyrics. Shane spits it out bitterly which doesn't tally with unfolding of a storyline as it evolves.
irynski 3 days ago
@jamsieboy1986 This song uses the device of first-person narrative leading us through naivety & the desire to fight for that which we, as ordinary people, deem to be morally honourable. It's the story of a working-class man-boy who believes that the ruling classes hold the same ideals. Only, as the story unfolds, does he question the truth of the sacrifice he & so many others made for the privileged/elite to uphold THEIR power & interests. Sadness & questions are predominant, not anger.
irynski 3 days ago
@alanbstard4. Fiddle di dee fiddle di die john williamson is the man this boys just a guy.. And an Aussie to boot...
HunterReptileRooms 6 days ago
you clowns have no idea, listen to the words for shits sake
MrSlywon 1 week ago
Hey!! Canada, we've got your back. Always, no question.
mattyk722 1 week ago
@mattyk722 idk who your talking to, but you do know that this video is for the australians in WW1 during the battle of Gallipolli
azianninjakid 1 week ago
@azianninjakid yes but it reminds us of the evil bastard who organized it
alanbstard4 1 week ago
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galwaygirl8 1 week ago
No need to apologize. Just be aware Bogle is a lefty shit stirrer, a republican in a land who appreciates the Monarchy. The idea of the words of the song I concur with, WW1 was pointless, but so was WW2 which was an extension of WW1. The Bogle's of the world conveniently avoid WW2, it might upset their paymasters
Bogle is not even Australian
alanbstard4 2 weeks ago
RIP Gallipoli heroes died fighting at Gallipoli James Breen and James Heffernan my husbands two great uncles died of wounds and both killed at Gallipoli ( My Mum in Laws Two Uncles)
TessMcnamara1 2 weeks ago
This is a great anti war song. The Great Mandella is another. Check it out.
onebaud1 2 weeks ago
Stop passenger. Presses the soil of an era without knowing this is the place went bankrupt....Gallipoli impassable
esrarligoz 3 weeks ago
no one will or ever get the point, man has been fighting wars since the dawn of time, its a fact of mankind, and unfortunately will never ever change
MrSlywon 3 weeks ago
@MrSlywon It's the greatest human tragedy of all: our inability to learn from the horrors of history.
I wish I could have a less cynical attitude towards humanity... yet the reality is that we keep repeating ourselves from generation to generation. For a species so 'apparently' evolved we remain the basest of all animals.
irynski 2 weeks ago
Thank you to all the ANZACs that gave their lives so we can live our's in peace. Your memory lives on. I also appreciated the Turkish soldiers that defended their homeland from an unrelenting enemy.
ZekeFeuer13 3 weeks ago
All the comments on everyone's philosophy of life and their philosophies to the end of war.
TheUselessMachine 4 weeks ago
This has been flagged as spam show
we were churchills dogs bodys ,sent in to do dirty mans job can you imagine the sence in taking a horse to a beach landing ,how stupid is that ,it was an ill thought out battle imagine if we did get our horses over the ridge and thought the turks on there farm land on horse back,Lonepine need not have happened,God Bless em All who gave there lives for us
12fangs 1 month ago
@12fangs I don't understand why this was marked as being spam. You're absolutely correct. The entire campaign was a mistake. I don't care how charismatic Churchill was, nor how much people adulate him. Neither he nor the other officers of the Realm condemned themselves to the trenches. What the elite had the privilege to write off as being what the spin doctors now call 'collateral damage' were thousands upon thousands of ordinary young men. May their memories live on for the working classes.
irynski 2 weeks ago
@irynski Churchilkl was scum. He organized Gallipoli and also organized behind the scenes with Duff Cooper and the others to get us into an unnecessary war against Hitler, using Poland as the excuse.
Churchill in Australia is both venerated and hated. He was a drunk, bi polar and a homicidal nuisance who caused the deaths due to his military adventurism
alanbstard4 2 weeks ago
@irynski Churchill as first lord of the admiralty organized not only the Gallipoli failure, but also Norway in WW2
alanbstard4 2 weeks ago
such a waste life. all of this wasted time and resources could have gone to developing new medicines or studies in physics. to save and improve everyone's living standards in the world so we don't need war.
Kokoda144 1 month ago
War is shit. The worst way to working things out.
Want peace? Then for one, don't start a fucking war!
(Sorry for the swearing but it was necessary).
And I agree, there are no winners or losers in wars.
ona25 1 month ago
Maybe mums dad is in these photos.just maybe.
colliric 1 month ago
He is singing of the futility of war. Nobody wins, we all lose. So many young men who never came home. It's still going on now because we we just wont learn! There must be a better way.
mulgagrrl 1 month ago
War is an unfortunate necessity. Evil will only win, when good men stand back and do nothing.
twodogshellbound 1 month ago
This is OZ.No matter the original poster.We are not a war like people but we have a definite history. Not looking to expand an empire but looking to thwart the axis. wish we could achieve it without the body count.
mrsmith14021982 1 month ago
@Jonno1955 he got wrong the casualty numbers wrong too. 50,000 Australians? Try 7,500. 75,000 Turks also died defending their home from a belligerent aggressor.
intelligentdesigner 1 month ago
Rest in Peace, all the fallen heroes!
carouselstar 1 month ago
@carouselstar Fallen idiots.
zapkvr 1 month ago
Beautifully done...
meri7361 1 month ago
If you haven't seen it yet, I highly recommend hearing Liam Clancy's version. Beautiful song
Datsyukfan123 1 month ago
@Datsyukfan123 Better than the original, I think NOT
zapkvr 1 month ago
@Datsyukfan123 Have you actually listened to this impartially? No doubt your first encounter with this song was via Liam Clancy. Yes, he did a 'nice' rendition of it, but Eric Bogle was the man who wrote it &, having heard the many covers, it still stands as the most touching & passionate version (1971).
You're welcome to your opinion, of course, but this is the version we - in Australia - knew first & foremost. It remains as powerful & true as the first time I heard it. It IS the song!
irynski 2 weeks ago
@irynski It is the song you say? Then why are we in Iraq Aghanistan etc. No one takes any notice of the song, which by the way, was a commercial, for profit production
alanbstard4 2 weeks ago
@alanbstard4 I say that it is the definitive version of the song best sung & interpreted by the guy who wrote it. Hell of an argument you've got going: you've even tossed in the kitchen sink. If you're going to throw commercialism into the dialogue then you might as well address the source of the problem & why humans are still being propagandised... it's called capitalism as the global economic system. Don't pull at little strands & present them as absolutes. We all work for a commercial system!
irynski 1 week ago
@alanbstard4 To be honest, I can't fathom why you've chosen to jump down my throat. I suspect you've read something & projected your own context onto it. Try reading my comment properly. You might realise that I'm expressing an opinion as to whether this version is better than the cover by The Pogues or by The Dubliners... or are you suggesting that one of the covers is not for profit?
What, then, is your point?
irynski 1 week ago
@irynski I'm not jumpig down your throat. Just explaining the Bogle type. The song as such I have no problems with. However, you must understand the history of personality and national politics to know these things
In fact I think your efforts to inform people is to be applauded
Strange thing, Gallipoli, we killed so many more of them and still lost. However, on even ground at Beersheba, we cleaned " Johnny Turk " up in the last great Horse charge in history
Look it up
alanbstard4 1 week ago
@alanbstard4 'The Bogle type'. Could I use this as a premise for research papers? As the system has de-volved, research & conference papers have have become verbose bollocks. Tertiary education has benefited greatly by the US Corporate methodology being superimposed over the old bureaucratic system!
More ideas on how to sell education as being 'sexy'? It's all about marketing in order to get the children of the elite interested in subjects. Pity they're illiterate. Still, they generate BUCKS!
irynski 1 week ago
@irynski Indeed you could. The Bogle type. Anti establishment and a capitolist profiting from his bullshit, like that idiot Billy Bragg
alanbstard4 1 week ago
@alanbstard4 LOL! Bragg by name, Bragg by nature!
irynski 1 week ago
@irynski exactly!
alanbstard4 1 week ago
@alanbstard4 Hey, who wouldn't be prepared to be a dedicated 'working class hero' by singing 'The Internationale' at thousands of euros a pop?
I'm practising my broadest Aussie accent & am ready to pretend to huff & puff & blow the piggies' house down. D'ya think I could make a lucrative profession of it?
irynski 1 week ago
@irynski well, John Williamson elevated the art of the ocker and proved himself an idiot. Think twice before you do it
However, if there's quid in it, go ahead, Billy Bragg may be there. He's socialism is tidal. It comes and goes
alanbstard4 1 week ago
@alanbstard4 I suspect the 'moon' to Braggs tides are his bank account, stock, bonds, shares....
I'll be pulling out some old images from 'The Bulletin' and reading "Clancy of the Overflow". Squawk, "Any'ow, 'ave a Winfield!" then you, too, can dodge taxes & have the support of the taxpaying masses, too.
That was sheer cruelty throwing John Williamson into the mix. I've just turned blue-y at the mention of his name. Freedom of expression is one thing - but he should be illegal.
irynski 5 days ago
@irynski oh yes. Bragg is a true communist. In the end there is money, usually somebody else's for him.Williamson is the only chap I know of that cultivates illiteracy. Manufactured commercial ockerism
alanbstard4 5 days ago
@alanbstard4 lol! A working class hero is something NOT to be unless you can reap the rewards (in spades) while you live a long and lucrative life. Those who are/have become true working class heroes have martyred themselves in order for the bastards of the world to make a tidy profit from their names.
Long live the revolution (so long as I can make a buck out of it and maintain an audience who can't get enough of my hypocrisy)! Nice work if you can get it.
irynski 3 days ago
@irynski Neville Wran said the best thing about the working class is getting out of it
alanbstard4 3 days ago
@irynski Oh sorry, my point? The lyrics reflect the result of the disaster launched by that drunkard and criminal, W S Churchill, one of the most hated public figures in Australia, although there are a few that revere him
The returned soldiers hated him. " The " great man " my arse. You may love him up there, not all here do.
Tell that to your students
alanbstard4 1 week ago
@alanbstard4 I'm wondering how drunk YOU are! Again, READ MY COMMENT, moron!
Up there? I'm down here, dolt.
I condemned Churchill, you dullard. How the hell could you read praise into a response to comment marked as spam for speaking the truth about Churchill's being one of the elite who serve only the plutocracy.
The bastard should have been tried for Crimes Against Humanity (see also the mustard gas bombings of Mesopotamia in the early 20's)!
Read before you blurt!
irynski 1 week ago
@irynski oh sorry I thought you were the poster. I was in a hurry and didn't check
alanbstard4 1 week ago
@alanbstard4 Which simply brings me back to the point I made on your page regarding my disbelief in being a broadcaster to be taken seriously.
Fundamental rule of criticism # 1: pay attention!
Misinformed critique is simply bombastic abuse.
irynski 1 week ago
@irynski lol. Friend Broadcasters make a fucking up a national sport, Especially when on the run, and especially here where it doesn't count
alanbstard4 1 week ago
@alanbstard4 Haha! Precisely why I enjoyed flaming you! Everyone gets to be knee-jerk reactionary with pretences to having some substance behind the form on YT. I wonder if you ever actually had a political ideology? Irrelevant. Commercial concerns demand that you be as you are: inconsistent with a few facts behind you. Reminds me of Dylan's great words, "Everybody must get stoned!"... Er, maybe it was something else about masters. Meh. He's just turned into a born-again reactionary, anyway.
irynski 1 week ago
@alanbstard4 PS If you want some serious action, may I suggest that you bone up on Eastern European history & go to any of the folk dancing or folk singing vids? If you want a decent argument with people who actually have a little idea of what they're talking about & are reasonably articulate (including English). I'm lucky(?!) enough to be of that decent & know a few languages. It's THE place to go for venting your spleen & actually starting intelligent absurdist dialogues.
irynski 1 week ago
@irynski thanks for the advice. I may look in, but to " bone up " on European history will take up half my life before I understand it
Worth the look I suppose
alanbstard4 1 week ago
@alanbstard4 Oh, don't give me that! You only need to know how to pronounce the names of a couple of cities plus a few key figures in order to create the illusion that you're an expert.
Any facts or miscellaneous knowledge will be accepted as being authoritative so long as it's done with confidence. Listeners will automatically be convinced that you actually have an intricate understanding of the region. It's all about having an uninformed opinion. You KNOW it'll wash if you're loud!
irynski 1 week ago
@irynski not a;ways. It works the other way too
alanbstard4 1 week ago
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To put a end to war, we must put a end to the bankers. For every war through out history except for a couple, it was the bankers who sounded the drums of war!
303anzac 1 month ago
@303anzac Absolutely! At the basis of every war lie the interests of the plutocracy.
Events leading to WWI propagandised the cannon-fodder (that's all the masses were perceived as being) as fighting to the relatively new concept of Nation-State. Nation-State was just a way of duping people into believing that they were serving their Nation.
It's all about Imperialism, although the new Imperialists are the Multinationals.
irynski 1 week ago
Istargazer - Fantastic! A++. (My Dad used to play this song on remembrance day and I often thought how I should share this song with my peers).
The song always makes me think of my Pop, who was posted in New Guinea (WW2). He never spoke about the war. And the line 'What are they marching for?' you emphasised, I think is 'THE' line in the song..Pop never marched, except once, the year before he died??
Here's hoping there is more like-minded youth like you out there. We might be alright..?
adbot75 2 months ago
Great song!
robcas631 2 months ago
are you Canadian or Australian?
kidFROM2505 2 months ago
Gday Canada. This Aussie loves ya. God bless every last one of you.
500Sanchez 2 months ago
PEACE!
KielerSchlamperich 2 months ago
To all Diggers past and present, to all that have served in action and to the ones that have not.....to all the Diggers that have paid the altermate price for our freedom you will always be remembered, your spirit will live on forever. If you don't like our Diggers, it just means you have not the guts to put on the uniform, a rifle in your arms and fight....LEST WE FORGET (From a Ex-Aussie Digger)
ColinVanderheide 2 months ago
@ColinVanderheide I am an ex digger. Infantry. Soldiers have to wake up and stop being used
alanbstard4 2 months ago
@ColinVanderheide I love the Diggers, I had three uncles who didn't come back, from this slaughter.14-18 My uncle left his legs in Germany, Dad came home 39-45. My childhood heroes were the Australian Light Horse, especially the charge on Besheeba. What I don't love is the reason that two very young countries lost so many young men and women and for what. This song is simple, the people turned their backs on the wounded.maimed and insane. A special thought for the Anzac Vietnam vets.
candicesdad1 1 month ago
Is there a live version of June Tabor's version ?
theyorkie50 2 months ago
Fuck Policy but Support our Soliders.
rhinobarrows 2 months ago
@rhinobarrows Same thing pretty much don't you realize? That's all the rulers care about. You support the troops and cannot say the war is not worth fighting because that weakens the troops' morale, which is all important to their survival on the front.
strandwolf 2 months ago
It's a lovely song full of good intention but sadly incorrect. The "Heroes of Suvla" were Irish and English troops NOT Australian. The Aussies and New Zealanders were on another beach entirely . They were all brave young men regardless but it's disappointing that Eric got it wrong.
Jonno1955 2 months ago 12
@Jonno1955 you miss the point! no need to nittty gritty!
peter4579 2 months ago
@peter4579
It's too serious a subject to get wrong. You might be happy to settle for the mistakes but personally I am not
Jonno1955 2 months ago
@Jonno1955 Agreed in terms of the veracity of facts, however I have to throw my hat in with @BenjiQ575 in terms of the flow of the song. I think this has entered our consciousness (certainly mine) as being the most poignant song ever written about the terrible consequences of war.
If you were to analyse the folk songs of any nation you'd find that it is the general sensibility which remains &, I hope, this will become regarded as an Aussie folk song & encourage the young to explore its origins.
irynski 2 weeks ago
@irynski
The bending of the historical truth to create this lovely and important song is permissable with me too. Eric gets the important message across. I just got annoyed by the ignorant people who were convinced that the lyrics in the song must be true and argued the point without researching what REALLY happened at Suvla Bay and to whom.
Jonno1955 2 weeks ago
@Jonno1955 I suspect that many people aren't aware of the context of the song. It was written while the draft was still in place in Australia & addresses the greater concerns of war as being the 'ordinary bloke' being asked to give everything for wars based on lies to protect the interests of the elite.
I remember the barrel draw on telly for who was to be drafted for the Vietnam war. Relatives & friends were recruited... to serve whose interests? THAT is the truth behind this song!
irynski 2 weeks ago
@Jonno1955 This is unsubstantiated, but I was told that he only said Suvla Bay because it went well in the song. If had've actually said Gallipoli Peninsula or The Dardanelles or Tobruk, it wouldn't go well..
BenjiQ575 2 months ago 5
@BenjiQ575
Yes I read that too. At least Suvla bay was in the same country as what we now call Anzac Cove. He could have changed it to Acapulco if it had rhymed better. ;-)
Jonno1955 2 months ago
@Jonno1955 not 100% wrong, as the ANZAC sacrifices gave the British the opportunity and time to make a landing. A similar strategy would be used at Normandy in WWII.
DaveMartinCanuck 2 months ago
@Jonno1955 - jeezus mate , stop being a bloody pedant. Who fuggin cares if the lyrics aren't historically correct. like the damb song for what it is.you bloody fools got to fuggin winge about insignificant shit.
jimbothegarbo 2 months ago
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galwaygirl8 1 month ago
@galwaygirl8
Yeah, the young men of Australia and New Zealand were just cannon fodder that were sent to the wrong beach that became a bloodbath instead of one further along.
Unotuchable 1 month ago
@galwaygirl8 lol? please die
MsSloppyseconds 3 weeks ago
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fleetwood1111 1 month ago
you got it wrong - where did you learn history?
nickmaxell1 1 month ago
@nickmaxell1
The TRUTH is in the Wikipedia article aboiut the song. It's Contents No 5 entitled "Factual Inaccuracies". Eric Bogle admits he got it wrong. They are all facts not opinions. Some people seem to enjoy re-writing history.
Jonno1955 1 month ago
@Jonno1955 mate it dosnt matter we were all in this war together
kidFROM2505 1 month ago
@Jonno1955 As far as I can tell, the "mistakes" were done largely intentionally for artistic reasons. The tin hat, for example, wasn't introduced until 1916, but it's iconic of the great war. Same thing with Suvla Bay vs. ANZAC Bay.
knightorder 2 weeks ago
31 must come from a family of cowards...
Tri4Kat 2 months ago
I always end up sobbing at this. There's no other reaction possible.
shakypam 2 months ago
Gallipoli aka Churchill's folly!
yore84003 2 months ago
I don't think any veteran would be offended by this at all. Part of remembrance is accepting that, in the heat of war, bad decisions are made, and the repercussions for the average squaddie can be catastrophic. All vets understand that, and coming to terms with things they were asked to do in time of war IS part of the healing process and thoughtful contributions such as this can only help that process in the long run. Your students should be proud they have a true 'teacher' like you...
jasperozzie61 2 months ago
Thank you for postng this. I hope your students appreciated your efforts.
I have recently discovered that I have a relative buried on Lemnos who was wounded at Gallipoli. I believe that to date, no member of our family has visited his grave. It is my desire to attend and ANZAC dawn service there and honour him.
Lest we forget.
knuckey63 2 months ago
Slight error with the text of this clip.... Total Allied deaths (at Gallipolli) were 43,000 British, 15,000 French, 8,700 Australians, 2,700 New Zealanders and 1,370 Indians. Total Turkish deaths were around 60,000. Lest we forget indeed.
rodmcguinness 2 months ago
this made me cry :'( Lest we forget <3
ratzrool1967 2 months ago
Thank you
Julzizz 2 months ago
Beautiful Song, Lest We Forget. R.I.P to all you Aussie's from all us Poms. The sacrifices our ancestors made will never be forgotten.
rockguru123 2 months ago 3
@rockguru123 Thanks mate.
'An Aussie'
Geekman333 2 months ago
It's so sad. I can't help but feel sad when I hear this.
It's an amazing song though.
Manigran 2 months ago
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Fuck you all,,.... you puppets of british... how our brothers smack you down.... Allah ho Akbar .....
if you come in front of us we will see you but you coward do now come on ground ...
Love for turkey from pakistan
changwani1 2 months ago
@changwani1 cool story bro.
UltimateFighting666 2 months ago
@changwani1 you sir, have no soul
cococlaudio123 2 months ago
@changwani1 admiral akbar
yoshiman12232 2 months ago
This song captures the pure horror of war, loss and bereavement felt by soldiers and their families. Now, with the world's finances in such a mess, is a good time to beware of duplicitous politicians seeking excuses to go to war.
dogs1905 2 months ago
MrAgh50 2 months ago
@MrAgh50 I might be wrong but I thinkl 55,000 was the total ANZACS/DIGGERS killed in the First World War
neegerh8tr 2 months ago
On the 11/11/11 we shall remember them.
LEST WE FORGET.
MrBucket08 2 months ago
@istargazer Waltzing Matilda is more than a pack on your back in the brush. It is a classic Australian song. So the band keeps playing that song.
TehGamezWithJagris 2 months ago
I've had a project in mind for a while now. I've been planning on writing a story about WW1 from an Islamic perspective. Naturally that means it would be largely focused on the Gallipolli theater. I haven't decided whether to make the main character Turkish or Australian yet though.
BamaToon 2 months ago
this song is not about , yer politicians or red plumes or reason ,,,its about those who stood up and faced tyrants and dictators so that we can live free
5bears799 2 months ago 7
@5bears799 the song is about waste.
lundehund44 2 months ago
@5bears799 You mean the Irish who rose in rebellion against an oppressive outside government? WW1 didn't have a thing to do with tyranny or dictatorship -- that was WW2. WW1 was all glory,green, pride and stupidity.
smellincoffee 2 months ago
@smellincoffee in WW2 the Germans could say they suffered from economic forces and starvation. They did
they returned from WW1 and their nation ravaged by the usual suspects. We declared war on Hitler because he freed his country from the banks and made Germany economically strong.
If we want to avoid war in the future, we gotta stop lying to ourselves and each other and face facts
alanbstard4 2 months ago
@alanbstard4 "We declared war on Hitler because he freed his country from the banks and made Germany economically strong."
You forgot Poland.
AnonymousDiv0 2 months ago
@AnonymousDiv0 After WW1 the eastern part of Germany was given to Poland by the allies. A referendum in Poland to return to Germany, with over 90% voting for return was not honoured, plus there was the murder & assaults on German speakers and a threat of invasion of Germany by Poland
Poland was the excuse. Also, if Hitler wanted to jump onto the back of Stalin, it couldn't happen to a nicer guy
You really think the average person in the Empire gave a bugger about the Poles
alanbstard4 2 months ago
@AnonymousDiv0 Poland is only a made up country invented to keep the Russians and Germans from killing each other. A bit like Belgium really.
zapkvr 3 weeks ago
@alanbstard4 Wouldn't have nothing to do with Germany's decision to tear up the treaty of Versailles?
zapkvr 3 weeks ago
@zapkvr Germany had every right to tear it up. The British said as much and agreed the terms were too harsh
alanbstard4 3 weeks ago
@alanbstard4 So the British agreed Germany had a right to invade Poland? Then why did they enter the war?
zapkvr 2 weeks ago
@zapkvr It was the excuse to attack Germany to bring it back into the common banking system. Why did we not declare war on the Soviet Union for Invading Poland with Germany
German speakers in Poland were also being persecuted, and Poland had attacked the Czech border and stated military intentions against Germany
alanbstard4 2 weeks ago
@alanbstard4 Right on the ball/s.
irynski 1 week ago
@5bears799 trouble is the enemy were not run by tyrants and dicators
alanbstard4 2 months ago
@alanbstard4 WRONG. The enemy was US i.e. the soldiers.
zapkvr 3 weeks ago
@5bears799 AGREE AND IM A YANK
rsm93 2 months ago
@rsm93 THAT explains it. You know everything about everything. Too bad most of your high school students couldn't even find Turkey on a map.
zapkvr 3 weeks ago
@5bears799 Brave yes, Heros yes, Warriors yes, but the reason for most of wars have been unjustified, they have all been all set up by war profiteers and bankers.
303anzac 1 month ago
@303anzac No one held a gun to their heads and made them fight. How do you THINK the Viet Nam conflict ended? It was because of the supreme sacrifice of the draft resisters some of whom even went to jail but most of whom were the subject of scorn and ridicule which SHOULD have been directed at the murdering soldiers.
zapkvr 3 weeks ago
@5bears799 unfortunateley the great war had nothing to do with tyrants or freedom judt arrogance and carelessness on both sides. Don't get me wrong, I have utmost respect for those soldiers, fighting for their country (and freedom they were told) they were just mislead by their leaders. Very very sad
snakeyjake7 1 month ago
@snakeyjake7 Well that is where you make your first mistake. The invaders from the lowliest conscript to John Monash deserve nothing but our contempt. We romanticise them at our peril. What would you think if in a hundred years anyone said the same thing about Viet Nam? They weren't fighting for anyone's freedom. Eric has it right. The whole enterprise was a total waste of time. Go and watch the last episode of Blackadder Four, you might learn something.
zapkvr 1 month ago
@zapkvr This is where you are terribly wrong. And i question your education at uni or otherwise. We don't live in a green left wing utopia and its these guys that have given us our freedoms. Show respect.
shauno1970 1 month ago
@shauno1970 Respect for what you clown? Anyone who embarks on an ill advised enterprise like WW1 deserves derision and scorn. Show me where I am wrong or STFU.
zapkvr 3 weeks ago
@snakeyjake7 Well if you do respect them it shows how stupid you are and why these wars will keep happening. They should be treated as the murderers they are. Then there might be some accountability.
zapkvr 3 weeks ago
@zapkvr you may not agree with the war, and that is fine i don't agree with the basis of the Vietnam war, hell i thought it was stupid, but don't disrespect the troops.
SaxonJames6666 3 weeks ago
@5bears799 Not correct. In the ottoman empire we were the invaders. We had no business being there. If the turks still ran the place there would be no palestinean question because there would be no Israel. Don't get me wrong, I don't trust the turks either but I trust the Israelis even less. You do know they have an atomic bomb don't you?
zapkvr 1 month ago
we shall remember them ,,,,
5bears799 2 months ago
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"War: A massacre of people who don't know each other for the profit of people who know each other but don't massacre each other" --> Paul Valéry
Sad but true....
freedomseeker316 2 months ago
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anyone killed or affected by war,basically everyone on the planet is the victim of a supposed higher person,national leaders etc incapable of reasonable or rational behavior with respect to other human being.
how many pristine polotician, generals etc with plumes in thier hats rich scarlet sashes and war banding are shown sqirming in filth facing the "enermy" onslaught.war is a means of population control.humans are despensible directly propotion to their wealth.dont relinquish freedom.
shrekthebignumber2 2 months ago
anyone killed or affected by war,basically everyone on the planet is the victim of a supposed higher person,national leaders etc incapable of reasonable or rational behavior with respect to other human being.
how many pristine polotician, generals etc with plumes in thier hats rich scarlet sashes and war banding are shown sqirming in filth facing the "enermy" onslaught.war is a means of population control.humans are despensible directly propotion to their wealth.dont relinquish freedom
shrekthebignumber2 2 months ago
This song brings tears to my eyes everytime i hear it. And i want everyone to remember that on Gallipoli it wasnt only Australians and Kiwis (New Zealand) that lost their live. The turkish lost many and even if they were the 'enemy' all life is precious.
girly1010101 2 months ago
As Veterans Day in America, or Armistice Day approaches in the coming days, I encourage everyone to realize that we should not only honor the fallen, and survivors of our country, or our allies, but also the men and women who have fought and or died in battles against us, and in ages past. From the Gallipoli Campaign to the War in Afghanistan. From the siege of Stalingrad, to the Sino-Japanese wars. May every soldier, be remembered, and may it be known that they all had names, lest we forget.
abbyratsolee 2 months ago
Soon be Remembrance Day here in the UK, we will remember our fallen heroes, men like the 'Brave Few' of RAF Fighter Command, the Desert Rats, the 36th (Ulster) Division, the 'Pals' regiments etc. But we will also remember our friends and allies from the gallant Red Army, the Various Resistance movements of occupied Europe, our Canadian and South African cousins, and of course the brave, bold ANZACS.
Britain will never forget their bravery or their sacrifice...God Bless Australia!
oz1641 2 months ago
Trouble is, we shed our tears to sad songs like this, but wave flags when the wars come around.
ChorltonPeckory 2 months ago
Every song about soldiers should be "anti-war", soldiers hate war the most.
Abtacha666 3 months ago
@Abtacha666 Not a good number of the US enlistees. They're looking for action, adventure, drama. The battleground is a proving ground in their eyes. Foolish or nasty, that's the way it is.
strandwolf 2 months ago
thank you Ataturk! if there were more people like you in this world, perhaps the waring would cease. its senseless, i wish the world would live and let live.
karla6049 3 months ago
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Englishmen do not try again, we are ready from turkiye ottomans ::)))
Mehmetkilic38 3 months ago
to reginadeviant does it matter if it was 1or 100000 there were all some ones son husband etc the fact is the generals or commanders including general snow at the somme he kept throwing them over the hill to hell.but lets hope they made it to heaven lest we forget
bolton987 3 months ago
Where did you get 50,000 Aussies dead at Gallipoli???? 8,000 was more like it!!
reginaDeviant 3 months ago
4:26 "the legless, the armless, the blind and insane those proud wounded heros of Suvla" The Irony of this statement always cuts me down to the core.
It it such a shame how many people use the opportunity to comment as one to push their own political views, this song is a tribute. Whether to those alive, dead, lost or found the meaning is found by the listener, so let us listen...
phoenix0192 3 months ago
A beautiful honest song written,& sung by Eric Bogle an Australian Scotsman.
Regardless of Nationality, regardless of being friend or foe. Those that gave, & give their lives are servicepeople. Placed in harms way by foolish arrogant politicians offering up their countries finest for slaughter while they themselves sit safely & protected in ivory towers preparing themselves for the media appearing to be saddened by the loss of their heros, yet urging the country to stay in for the "LONG HAUL"
MrFrontlinefred 3 months ago
we all need to remember what we have now, and what they died for.. i can only hope myself that by doing the best i can now, i honor them, and make them proud! may god rest their souls, for if today has it's way, we wouldn't care... lest we forget. they gave us what we have.......
sparhawk29 3 months ago
it's not about those who survive... it's about the sacrifice for what we have now. it's about beating tyranny and oppression, and the fact that everyone today seems to forget the sacrifice, both living and passed on, that these soldiers have given. "the young people ask what are they marching for.." it's very true, but those who know the real history will know what they died for... what makes me sad is the big companies that frown on the minute silence.. as if that is going to cost them...
sparhawk29 3 months ago
the point was that, this man lived his life, and he went to war and he lived, no one ever triumphed, they just came home, the aussies and the turks, we are all the same, every man ...
lalicatafamily 3 months ago in playlist More videos from istargazer
Gallipoli was almost 100 years ago, but we still remember. A tearjerker of a song that should be played every ANZAC Day. Thank you to the Diggers in every war.
ozzz2002 3 months ago
@ozzz2002 It should be played every day. Look about you at the veterans of politician foolhardinessm make their lives just a little bit easier. A smile or even a small deed of kindness. Remember they are the walking wounded whether wounded or not sent to war for a cause usually unknown to the simple man
candicesdad1 3 months ago
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LEST WE FORGET!
kjenk19 3 months ago
Cant understand how these people who fought for US are now relegated into perhaps one day a year. Soon they will all be forgotten Sad and sorry that we can give such people so little recognition all these years later. People in our armed forces are receiving this very same reaction from us and our officials today. For a man to live kill and survive is hard perhaps impossible for some. To me they are still and will always be brave men and women who by me will never be forgotten.
rothwellss 3 months ago
always shead a tear when I hear this song , i thank god I have the freedom today because of all those brave men many yrs ago, cheers boys
MrSlywon 3 months ago
Atatürk wrote to Anzac mom's
Those heroes that shed their blood and lost their lives.You are now lying in the soil of a friendly countryTherefore rest in peaceThere is no difference between theJohnnies and the Mehmets to us where they lie side by side now here in this country of ours.you, the mothers,who sent their sons from faraway countries wipe away your tears; your sons are now lying in our bosom and are in peace. After having lost their lives on this land.They have become our sons as well.
hsyn0707 3 months ago 39
@hsyn0707 Isn't that the most heart-wrenching thing you could ever read? Says a lot for Ataturk that he could take that attitude towards former enemies.
reginaDeviant 3 months ago
@hsyn0707 Wish I could like this comment 1,000 times, No leader ever showed as much understanding as this memorial does, and now they are allies. Rest in Peace whatever side you were on......shit I'm crying
rorybowskill 3 months ago
@hsyn0707
My dear Amigo,
wish the whole world would think as you.
I salute you!
MeRobbieD 2 months ago
@hsyn0707 You are a champion my friend!!!
peter4579 2 months ago
jim norton sent me here
filthyfew77 3 months ago
We shall remember them! Words can't describe, the courage, the pride, the loss and those beautiful people lost! Lest we forget!
jazo373 3 months ago
Listen to The Corries singing "The Strangest Dream"
petermfh59 3 months ago
war isnt allways the glory it is made up to be! but that being said the world wars are the 2 BIGGGEST CONFLICTS MANKIND HAS EVER SEEN!!!!!!!!!!! no modern limited war can be anywhere that big! but still war sucks great song!
wolfeman0 4 months ago
I have a wee problem. I love this amazing ANTI-WAR song about Australian troops slaughtered in WW1, however this video is so interspersed with images of our Canadian brothers fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan, I guarantee you if you were to tell Eric Bogle his wonderful song was being used to glorify the actions of politicians in the 21st Century, he'd choke on his beer
roachiebkk 4 months ago
The Pogues covered this song nicely too
Roboboogerthagreat 4 months ago
@Roboboogerthagreat I hope your joking. They're cover is horrible. My dog could do better. Every member of that band should be bash for doing such a shitty cover of this amazing song.
MsSloppyseconds 3 months ago
This song is amazing. there's is really nothing else to be said
DarkR4NG3R72 4 months ago
War is neither won or lost, it's not a sport.
After all the victors write the history...
MrsMistressDeath 4 months ago in playlist More videos from istargazer
@MrsMistressDeath It is the largest price a country can paid, the poker chips are the lives of our young, the future generations of a nation scarred by the wounds of war. Does under yon Flanders field lies the cure for cancer. Does the veld act as an eternal blanket for the men of the future who would have given us a peace.Does lying butchered upon the shores of Dunkirk the cure for the ills of man. Does the body of Rupert Brook lie holding great works. A